"WIBLEY WOBLEY TIMEY WIMEY": Celebrating 60 Years of Doctor Who

[00:00:00] Oh But returning to Wilhelm is my buddy Billy. What's up guys? And making his first appearance on Wilhelm and hopefully not the last is Sean. Greetings everyone. Thanks for having me. So yeah, so you know, like as I mentioned, you know, this is the 60th anniversary of Doctor Who.

[00:01:40] We're all, we're all Hovians. We are huge fans of the series. Sean, I know I've seen pictures of you, I caught up to it. I feel like I'm stumbling my words. I apologize. I caught up to where everything was right before Matt Smith took over and tenant took his bow. I'm curious about you guys. When did you guys discover it and how did you discover it? Sean, let's start with you.

[00:03:01] Yeah, thanks.

[00:03:05] So I've always been like a big sci-fi fan. You know, I of fans out there, you know, you go through the, I don't know if you've seen the Doctor Who cycle where the new Doctor shows up and it's like, I hate this guy, he's never going to be able to take this guy's place and then next phase is like, well, he's okay. And then, you know, six months later, you're like, yeah, he's pretty good. So yeah, we definitely went through that growing pain just like everybody

[00:04:21] else. But yeah, that's where we kind of jumped in. Okay. Yeah, it's funny because I know we, it seems like we all kind of found it around the same time or at least when the series,

[00:05:40] where the series was in that position.

[00:05:42] Cause I like you, I actually went the best buy in bought

[00:05:44] all the DVD sets to get caught up.

[00:05:47] I didn't go on that way after Tenet. Yeah. And then, you know, we've had a number of doctors since. And one of the things I start to think about too is I'm looking at, you know, the number of seasons. Sometimes you get so emotionally attached to these characters like David Tenet is a doctor or Matt Smith is a doctor that you don't realize they only did three seasons.

[00:07:02] It feels like so much more. Alex, Foughtly, the Cybermen, the Weeping Angels. There are so many. Are there any that kind of standout as your favorite that kind of get you excited when you know it's going to be an episode about these characters? I'll leave it open to whoever wants to jump in first. So this one.

[00:08:22] Good, Billy. Why don't you go ahead?

[00:08:23] Yeah.

[00:08:26] Man, I'm trying to think.

[00:08:27] It might seem like such the world I mean, I thought that was just really creative and I thought he portrayed it really Excellently it was really great to watch. Yeah, I agree with you on that one

[00:09:42] How about

[00:09:43] Companions because we've seen a number. I mean I stronger character, more and more that progressed into their story. Yeah, I would second that. I mean, I thought Rory, his portrayal of like kind of the, the every man character, you know,

[00:11:00] providing like the ordinary person's perspective

[00:11:02] and what was happening, right?

[00:11:03] He wasn't a superhero,

[00:11:04] he didn't really have any powers or anything.

[00:11:07] And here he was married to, but yeah, I'm gonna go with River Song. Okay, yeah, fair enough. Yeah, Alex Kingston kind of knocked that, that, that row out of the park. And the, the, the things that they did with that character were just so phenomenally well done. You know, and we're gonna make Wing of Do

[00:12:20] if you're listening to this, obviously you're a fan,

[00:12:22] but spoilers.

[00:12:24] We're gonna talk about some stuff that happens

[00:12:26] over the course of the one of his favorite characters, I think really came through on screen. I mean, he genuinely enjoyed being there and doing what he was doing and playing that character. And I think he was like the perfect balance of being incredibly funny, also a little bit of charming,

[00:13:41] but also having this really deep dark side that really, for me embodies the doctor married the doctor's daughter who was really the doctor's daughter. I mean, just, you know, makes your head hurt. But it but it's fun. It's it's fun. Yeah, yeah, Georgia, who is his wife and was Peter Davidson's daughter. And then I'll think it's a cop out either to choose tenant. I really don't. But Billy,

[00:15:03] how about you? Who is your favorite doctor? well as the new season that comes next year with the new Doctor. And in my rewatch, I go back and forth because Tenet is a phenomenal actor portraying the Doctor. Sean, as you

[00:16:21] mentioned, there's so much emotion to his character.

[00:16:24] There's a little bit of a darkness that goes with it as

[00:16:26] well that kind of adds to that.

[00:17:23] Jodie's their favorite. I've heard people say, you know, Capaldi's their favorite.

[00:17:25] It's all a matter of how you perceive it.

[00:17:27] So.

[00:17:32] Yeah, absolutely. And I think just to pull on the thread a little bit more about the regeneration thing, I know for me stepping into Dr. Who with Eccleston, Eccleston's regeneration was,

[00:17:40] I don't know if the word, it was kind of, it was almost comedic in a way they wrote the scene. Yeah. When I when I talk to people and I want to introduce them to Dr. Who because believe it or not, I actually just this week just introduced. Um, so for those of you that don't know the day that we're recording, this is actually, it's actually my birthday. Um, so happy birthday. Thank you. Happy birthday. Uh, my mother was here earlier this week because we had dinner for, we went out

[00:19:01] for my birthday and when she showed up to my, to my house, I happened to be

[00:19:05] watching an episode of Dr. Who.

[00:19:07] I was watching a Matt Smith quirkiness and the cheesiness of the old and mixing it with a little bit of the modern. So by season two, it was, you know, it was,

[00:20:24] it was a whole new element. And I think that's one of the reasons why getting back to the point

[00:21:25] regeneration. So at least that's my opinion. That's how I kind of look at things.

[00:21:34] Yeah, I mean, I think to like tenant or sorry, Echleston season, there were some really fantastic episodes and there were some really tough episodes to get through. Production value was not the best.

[00:21:42] You had some super campy kind of sequences and stuff, which I know was some kind of doctor who caused by it. And it was all young adults. It was all like 13 through 15, 16 year olds. And I felt like if you went up to half of them and ask them, who is that? Oh, tell me something about that character. They couldn't tell you. Like it became a little, Doctor Who became a little too trendy at one point

[00:23:02] if that makes sense.

[00:23:04] Yeah.

[00:23:05] Now I think us live probably part of the attraction. And then you add to that that it's an actual comfortable cosplay costume to wear. So if you're at a con all day, you're on your feet, you're not super hot, wearing a helmet

[00:24:21] or anything super complicated.

[00:24:23] You get to walk around and like regular shoes and regular clothes.

[00:24:25] Yeah.

[00:24:26] Yeah, that's it's funny. You talk about getting the meat, you know, Billy Piper. I'm actually looking at it as we're recording. I have two pictures on my wall. One of them is with Karen Gillan. And the other one is with Matt Smith. And the one with Matt Smith is actually one of my favorites because it's him and I back to back, both holding Sonic screwdrivers.

[00:25:40] Yeah.

[00:25:40] So, and it's like, yeah, it's one of my favorite.

[00:25:43] I don't get, I don't really buy the photo apps at cons anymore

[00:25:46] because I don't really have to.

[00:25:47] Yeah. There will be spoilers as we will be discussing these episodes a little bit so you're bound to hear something. So if you haven't watched, apologies ahead of time for those spoilers. But that being said, we're going to go from five to one revealing. And as always, if you're a new listener to the podcast, or you just need to be reminded,

[00:27:01] neither Billy Sean or myself know what any of our top fives are.

[00:27:05] We have not revealed them to each other ahead of time. adult creature in the astronaut suit. And yeah, just visually it's an awesome episode and getting to meet River. Without really knowing how important she is, I probably, the later episodes made me appreciate this particular one more because we get to know her and all that stuff. But yeah, that's my number five, Silence in the Library.

[00:28:22] And that's a two-parter as well in that forest of the dead

[00:28:26] is the second part on that show. And I think in some ways she was done a disservice in some of the writing during her, Hurston as the doctor. So my fifth favorite episode that I listed was out of one of her seasons. It was season 12, episode five, which was the fugitive of Jadun. And the reason I picked

[00:29:43] that one was that was the introduction of the to us, ones that we enjoy. So you're right, the episodes that we choose like that one,

[00:31:00] it might not necessarily be listed

[00:31:04] in some of the greatest episodes of all time,

[00:31:06] but they stuck out to us for some reason.

[00:31:08] Yeah, exactly. Jenna, coming back as Clara, but this is a moment after Clara has, her story has ended. He is dealing with this, and this is the episode where he is in that kind of tower that is constantly changing and rotating. And by the end of it, you realize it is him just living a loop for billions of years until

[00:32:23] he can break through a little bit of an existential

[00:33:40] crisis in their own rights. And sorry, David Bradley episode that at the end, stuff goes down and he regenerates into Jody Whitaker's doctor and we get introduced to her and that one kind of shook the world, you know? So yeah, that was a big one for me. Yeah, and I'm with you. I kind of agree, the whole David Bradley casting is the first doctor I thought was pretty brilliant

[00:35:00] because the resemblance is really uncanny.

[00:35:05] Eerie, yeah.

[00:35:06] Yeah, yeah, Eerie's a better word. it was one of the, I'll say few kind of really like truly episodic episodes of the show where it was kind of standalone on its own, where it wasn't like part of a huge arc, except where Donna Noble returned. So you know, the doctor and Donna had done their journey, they kind of separated.

[00:36:20] And that reunion scene where the doctors like popping up behind the window and Donna's behind general struggle with weight gain and what people do to try to lose weight and just how crazy some of the things are that people will try and the way they took that concept and made into a doctor who episode I thought was really well done. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm with you on that Don the whole doctor, Donna Noble scene as well. That's another scene that makes me laugh every time I watch it.

[00:37:41] It's funny watching the interaction between the two of the Doctor, which was Matt Smith's final episode, which aired after this. And I believe was the Christmas episode of this particular season. But just seeing Tenet return, seeing him and Matt Smith come together, their chemistry was absolutely fantastic together.

[00:39:01] And John Hurt, man, was just getting that introduction

[00:39:06] to the end of one of the actors runs and they're like oh they're about to announce the new doctor I always joke like oh I hope it's David Tennant so when David Tennant was coming back for the 50th I

[00:40:20] was like oh this is gonna be nuts and yeah I thought say similarly I thought

[00:40:25] the contrast between him and Smith was learn as fans about the doctor as we progress. We still learn more and more and even the doctor themselves learns more and more about themselves as they go. This was a really special moment because we had always known that the doctor was the one that

[00:41:42] had destroyed his own people. He was the last, it was a big deal. And I remember watching live, like waiting for the announcement and everything. And I don't feel like they do that anymore. They don't put as much popular circumstances to it.

[00:43:00] But it was still fun when it was there.

[00:43:02] Yeah.

[00:43:03] All right, into our top three, Billy, number three. still these were Donna Noble episodes right? Yes they were yeah they were Donna Noble episodes and I'll even say because I remember posting this on Facebook as I was in the middle of my rewatch it made me really wish that we got Doctor and Wilford episodes. Oh yeah yeah because Wilford was a he says something about the face of bow they used to call me, or something like that? Is that when we learn that he's the face of bow, or is that a different episode? No, that's him and Martha. Okay, I couldn't remember, I could not remember, of climax of the story and then you're kind of coming down a little bit, you're like, oh, he kind of got through it. And then that scene happens and you're like, you hear the knock on the glass. I mean, I still get choked up just a second. But you hear the knock on the glass and like, he, in tenant does that whole monologue,

[00:47:02] which to me always struck me as it was like a balance of

[00:48:04] the way, whether it's a companion or just somebody random people he met along the way, he wishes he could save everyone and he can't and he struggles when he can't do it. So for him

[00:48:08] to make that sacrifice to save one, yeah, it held a lot. It held a lot of pointyency to it.

[00:48:17] So I really hope we get to see Bernard Cribbins in these anniversary specials in some way, shape This one kind of jumped out at me because one it was one of those instances where the doctors path crosses with a famous historical figure, which to me was always really interesting and entertaining. But the way that Van Gogh was portrayed as struggling with his mental health and that that was really the impetus for a lot of his artwork,

[00:49:40] especially in today's world where we're facing this mental health crisis, And other times it's making someone understand how important they actually were when they thought they weren't important at all. And that, I mean, I thought that episode was beautifully done. Okay. Yeah. I'm with you on that one. I feel like seeing Bill Nye, AKA the doctor's wife. There's so much that happens to the point where to see it that going into Season 6 with Matt Smith and Amy and Roy. So that two part episode is just one

[00:53:41] that stands out to me as one of my favorites,

[00:53:43] especially the Doctor.

[00:55:02] All the reasons he said I wanna echo them,

[00:55:04] but yeah, just getting to see,

[00:55:06] I feel like this is my reasoning where you get, you know, one of the doctor's rules about how he doesn't like to influence time or that there's fixed moments in the timeline that he can't really change. But I thought it was really great about this episode where, you know, this is where he's with Donna.

[00:56:20] And Donna as kind of the observer really pushes him

[00:56:25] to his limits and she show, but to go back and like do a rewatch or like see them again for the first time in a way was was really exciting. But for me, the episode was just, um, it's great interplay between the doctor and Donna. And again, so I was so still attached to Rose as a companion because she was such a phenomenal companion that I enjoyed Martha, but Donna was just a little too over the top for me.

[00:59:01] And then upon the second watch of Dr. Who, the down to earth, you know, every person kind of observer, like she's the regular, like Rose was kind of like got sucked into the doctor's, you know, river and no pun intended and kind of like evolved

[01:00:22] into it.

[01:00:23] She became a very crucial person in the doctor, like every time he felt he was high in mighty.

[01:01:42] And she just pulled him right back.

[01:01:43] Like it was, it was so brilliantly done. And a lot of the questions that doctor who actors get are very in depth. Like, you know, season four episode eight, you said this and the doctor said that. And that didn't make sense because three episodes ago you said this, like, Catherine Tate is not swept into any of that. And she just totally plays it off. Like somebody asked her a question and she was like, Oh, dear, I don't remember any of that. She like gave the person a hug and like went right onto the next question.

[01:03:01] So it's just, it's hilarious to watch her.

[01:03:04] I mean, she's just, thought that was just a great scene. And I'll add this too and then I'll kind of wrap up and we'll go into our number ones. The other thing I really I really learned to appreciate about Donald Noble as a companion from not just from this episode but from a future episodes too is you

[01:04:22] know with with the doctor and Rose they're started to become like a romantic Number two, my number one has already been mentioned. It is a very special episode, The Day of the Doctor. Okay. That one is just so fun to me. And again, I can't say something that hasn't already been said, but just getting to see the interactions between Matt Smith and David Tennant and

[01:05:41] the banter they had, getting to me, Tennant's hair was like a key element of his character. And I don't know what they were thinking with his hair in that episode, but it wasn't like the 10th Doctor to me, but it was still a great episode nonetheless.

[01:07:03] I'm actually going to agree with you.

[01:07:05] It felt a little flat.

[01:07:06] No pun intended.

[01:07:07] It was flat. again, having a watch party with friends and we are like, what the heck? That's Tom Baker. But yeah, that was pretty cool too. And I do like the fact too as well that it's, you know, it's one of those things you talk about, you know, seeing Tom Baker and playing with the whole, like I was, I was behind on the Jodi seasons. Season three, episode 10, blink, of course. So someone had to choose it as their number one. Yeah, this, I think Ben, you were talking about, you know, introducing people to people to Dr. Who when people ask me, you know, I'm kind of interested in Dr. Who,

[01:09:41] like, what should I watch?

[01:09:43] Say, if you're going to casually just like try to dip your toe into it, I always

[01:10:44] any good writing plays on the fundamental, like kind of human condition.

[01:10:45] And for me, the weeping angels just play at

[01:10:49] core fears that everybody has,

[01:10:51] like being in the dark, not being able to move,

[01:10:55] not being able to close your eyes,

[01:10:56] like not sure where the threat is coming from.

[01:10:59] And then just like the old kind of ancient statue look

[01:11:06] that always kind of had lot of doctor in it. And so for that reason, like, and I've seen this firsthand, I actually tried introducing a friend to Doctor Who.

[01:12:20] I showed him Blink.

[01:12:22] We have a system where if we're trying to introduce ourselves to introduce each other because it is an episode you can't not mention it when you're talking about favorites. But I for the reasons that you said you recommend it, that's the reasons that I don't. If that makes sense, that's what's great about Doctor Who. Right? Everybody can take different things. So that brings me to my number one and it is an episode that has already been mentioned,

[01:13:44] which we knew there was going to be some overlap.

[01:14:42] We can go through these relatively quickly. We don't have to spend a lot of time on these, but we'll go.

[01:14:46] Each of us will go and turn name one, maybe two, and then we can, uh, we'll go through

[01:14:51] until we have all the ones that we kind of have lined up.

[01:14:53] Uh, Billy, what's one or two of your honorable mentions?

[01:14:56] See a couple here, uh, the time of the doctor getting to see, you know, the

[01:15:01] episode where Matt Smith regenerates and that whole speech he gives at the end is so,

[01:15:05] so good.

[01:16:04] so we're Rose and the 10th doctor at a part ways. That one just sticks out to me emotionally.

[01:16:06] Like I mentioned, I was kind of catching up

[01:16:08] to Dr. Hoan Netflix.

[01:16:11] I won't mention who I was working for at the time,

[01:16:13] but I was working a night shift where

[01:16:15] we didn't have too much going on.

[01:16:17] So I was watching some Doctor Who.

[01:16:20] And of course I was working like 12 hour night shifts

[01:16:24] and I was somewhere in the middle

[01:16:25] of like a week long of doing this.

[01:16:27] So I was pretty tired. Amy and Rory depart. That really got me on my heartstrings. I mean being married Amy and Rory's relationship, you know, resonates with me in a lot of different ways. But the fact that we lost them, we lost them, the fact that, you know, they exited the show the way they did. And at the end, it was all about them trying to be together, you know, really

[01:17:45] tug on my heartstrings pretty strongly. The ones though that haven't been mentioned that are on my honorable mentions of all the Christmas specials, a Christmas Carol is one of my favorite ones because it is honestly, it's where Matt Smith decides to give somebody their own Christmas Carol.

[01:19:01] The wedding of River Song, which I just mentioned,

[01:19:03] an early David Tennant episode, season three,

[01:19:06] episode three with Martha, gridlock, it fell off just because the list was so ridiculously long. It's a good one. It's tough. I mean, it's it was tough to narrow these down. And I know there's probably episodes that people are going to listen and be like, how could none of you mention this one, right? And we could have came in. We could do another episode with a completely different top five and still be right. Yeah.

[01:20:20] Exactly.

[01:20:21] You know, but yeah.

[01:20:23] So they ask you guys the other way.

[01:20:24] What do you think was like the weakest doctor episode?

[01:20:27] Oh, Jesus.

[01:21:22] I don't know. Billy, do you have anything?

[01:21:24] I can't think of a specific episode, but that one, the first three, four, five episodes

[01:21:29] of New Who, it took about three tries for me to get into it.

[01:21:35] Because I mentioned earlier, I'm a teacher, my kids talk about it all the time.

[01:21:39] I'm like, ooh, I want to watch this.

[01:21:41] And it just, it didn't click with me yet.

[01:21:43] And I have a super busy life. start at the beginning and like you like your student told you and just push through it. You know, push through season one, it's only 13 episodes and then get the season two and then that's where you start to get invested. I loved Eccleson as the doctor. I really grew to appreciate him as the doctor and I wish we got more. But that is. So on the note of the 60th anniversary, before we start to wrap things up and we let you guys plug away, what are we looking forward to for these specials? Because we know we're getting three specials. Tenet is gonna be a part of all three of them

[01:24:21] until he finally regenerates into

[01:24:24] Choudi,

[01:24:27] got to, big special episode or three part episode and they're going to do some special things. So I'm just dying to see who are we going to get cameos from or maybe even bigger than cameos, other doctors, other companions, whatever. But that's kind of what I'm looking forward to as well as, you know, seeing what's going

[01:25:40] to cause him to regenerate again so quickly this time around, only three episodes in.

[01:25:44] But yeah, I that'll be exciting. Yeah. I am really interested. There's been a lot of teases on social media about the 14th doctor is not the 10th doctor and what that actually means.

[01:27:02] So I'm curious to see how 10 plays that and how the characters are different.

[01:28:01] Yeah, he does that. And that's his reaction is the what?

[01:28:04] Like, and just the fact that like we shared that reaction, I was like, Oh, now I can't

[01:28:09] wait.

[01:28:11] And that's what really prompted me.

[01:28:12] I was like, okay, now I need to get caught up because I need to make sure there's not

[01:28:16] anything I want to make sure everything I need to know for these specials.

[01:28:19] I know to watch these specials.

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[01:32:03] Yeah, I've seen a lot of your props too.

[01:32:05] A lot of the props that you have make

[01:32:07] be incredibly jealous.

[01:32:09] Yeah, the real good ones I bought,

[01:32:11] so I can't take credit for those,

[01:32:12] but they are a lot of fun.

[01:32:13] Like the Hasbro Proton pack that came out last year,

[01:32:16] earlier this year was phenomenal.

[01:32:18] So I don't want to think.

[01:32:20] That's the one in particular I'm the most jealous of.

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[01:33:25] Yeah, I was incredibly jealous that you got the proton pack.

[01:33:28] I was so tempted to back that project.

[01:33:31] And yeah, I was definitely on the fence because I have like a prop kit in my stash of stuff.

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[01:33:44] Yeah. Yeah, so we're going to head into the post credit for the listener feedback and everything, which I do by myself, but I just wanted to make sure I thank you guys properly, gave you guys the opportunity to plug away. But guys, thank you so much for being on and talking, Dr. Hu. Billy, it was great to have you back on. I'm sure it won't be the last time. And Sean, I hope to have you back on as well.

[01:35:00] Oh, thanks.

[01:35:01] I appreciate it.

[01:35:02] Yeah.

[01:35:03] I look forward to being on.

[01:35:04] Let me know how I can help out and hope to see you at Colorado Springs Comic-Con.

[01:35:07] I hope so. an episode we've been planning for a while and figure no better time to do it than now. The 60th anniversary of the series. I'm incredibly excited to see these three specials that are going to be coming. I'm incredibly excited to see where the series is going to go from here. It's been a part of my life for a little while now and I'm really excited to keep it going,

[01:36:24] to keep that tradition going. So thank you again to Billy and Sean for coming on.

[01:37:27] opportunity to do that. So anyway, this Wilhelm Post credit is of course, again, first time I'm doing this, but I'm going to continue doing this. This is where you're going to hear all

[01:37:31] the plugs of things coming up, maybe some more timely stuff, because some of the main discussions

[01:37:38] do get recorded a little ahead of time. And I will play it. I will play it here in the post credit. So yeah, so we did get a couple pieces, not a lot,

[01:39:00] but a couple pieces of feedback

[01:39:01] for this particular topic, this Dr. Hu.

[01:39:07] I was hoping for more doesn't know. Really failed Colin, who was absolutely a good enough actor to pull off what Eric Seward was initially going for. I'm not sure I'd buy the story that Seward purposely tried to sabotage the show by making the doctor hated just because he didn't like Colin Baker, but who knows? Six was very much the template for what 12 would eventually be, angry and abrasive, eventually

[01:40:21] mellowing into the kind of doctor everyone loves. my doctor will always be Peter Davidson, the fourth doctor. I'm the youngest by five years of four boys. I always remember sitting down on Saturday night with the whole family to watch Tom Baker's doctor. And then one night he regenerated. The next season, it was no longer my brother's doctor who it was my doctor.

[01:41:42] I love how involved he still is with the show.

[01:41:44] Father-in-law to David Tennant and real father to the doctor's daughter, That was one of the ones that almost made my top five as I mentioned in the main discussion So great choice for you know for one of your favorite episodes Derek does a lot of fun But again, thank you Keith and Derek for the feedback again. I encourage everybody listening out there leave the feedback Help us out and do what you can and um You know leave the feedback share the episodes

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[01:44:07] And then of course, Sean, go check out,

[01:44:09] if you're on Facebook, search for SP Productions.

[01:44:12] And that is his site where he does all the,

[01:44:18] he shows you all these new videos.

[01:44:20] And there you, I mean, you can find links

[01:44:22] to his YouTube page as well through that.

[01:44:24] Go give that page a like, follow Sean on there.

[01:44:27] I'm sure he'll be back't have to worry about trying to find me there.

[01:45:43] As far as things coming from Will-Home

[01:45:45] in this new season, I have lots of audio of panels Two more things before we go. Monarch, legacy of monsters, the new Apple Plus series has debuted and my friend Mark Kirkman and I are covering it here on Willhelm. We are doing weekly coverage of the show. It is a joint venture with the Podcastica podcast network. My friend Jason runs over there. So you can hear it over, you can hear it on the Willhelm

[01:47:02] podcast feed, you can hear it on the House podcast

[01:47:05] of the podcast feed.

[01:47:06] It launches on both and to anybody from House podcastica Give it a follow especially if you're a Ted Lasso fan because we're having so much fun talking about the show and doing a deep dive into the show We didn't realize you could do a deep dive into the show until we actually started doing the deep dive And there is so much there so much goodness so much emotion so much love and it's just It's been a blast

[01:48:21] Kristen and I also here on Wilhelm have been doing the movie swap

[01:49:25] to it. So thank you guys as always for everything. Thank you for listening. Thank you for following. Thank you for subscribing. I don't know what's next on the docket because I have so much, but expect

[01:49:30] to see another episode of Wilhelm within the next two weeks, you're going to see something pop up.

[01:49:35] It might be a panel. It could be a top five. I don't know what it is going to be at the time

[01:49:39] I'm recording this. I don't know what it is going to be yet. Keep an eye on the socials. You'll see

[01:49:44] it there what it's going to be this way. If it's something you can chime in for, you can absolutely