TOP FIVE: Favorite James Earl Jones Movies

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[00:01:47] Joel Jones has brought to life some of the most unforgettable characters in movie history.

[00:01:51] And on this episode we'll be counting down our top five favorite James Earl Jones movies,

[00:01:57] celebrating the incredible performances that made him a true Hollywood icon. Joining me on this

[00:02:03] journey is someone who knows his movies just as well as I do. If not more, he's my great friend

[00:02:09] at co-host of the comic book guru's podcast. Please welcome Craig LeGons. Craig, welcome to Will Help.

[00:02:16] Ben, thank you so much for having me here. It's a pleasure to be with you once again. We always

[00:02:21] have a blast together. You do on our top five and I'm honored to be a part of this list

[00:02:26] and to be a part of this show. Thank you again. Yeah, not a problem. Um, yeah, last time

[00:02:32] you and I did something together we actually were doing it in front of an audience. We were at

[00:02:35] fan and both Philadelphia. Last year which was a lot of fun. Yeah, with a lot of fun because we

[00:02:43] had a lot of a lot of people to choose from. You know, we had so many stars at that fan expo

[00:02:50] that we were doing our top five for via, you know, John Carlos, Pazito and Tom Wilson and

[00:02:57] a lot of big name people but this guy that we're talking about today.

[00:03:04] And then nothing else, the stars that we've already talked to and about, but this guy

[00:03:09] embodied so many classic timeless moments in movie history and he strode among us for 93

[00:03:17] years. So a whole life and just generations upon generations worth of memories.

[00:03:24] Yeah, I mean, you know, the unfortunate news obviously if you haven't heard by now which I'm sure

[00:03:29] the whole world has is that, you know, James O'Jones has passed away at the age of 93 just a

[00:03:39] I actually deviated the original plan of the season premiere episode which this is was planned.

[00:03:46] I was planning on doing something different and I'm still recording that episode but I was like,

[00:03:50] man, like I he is such an iconic actor that I didn't make any sense or to not honor him and

[00:04:00] pay tribute to him as the season premiere of the season of Will Home this year. Most of that.

[00:04:05] I hate that we have to, I mean that your season premiere has to be about, you know, the passing of

[00:04:11] a legend but a chance to celebrate him more, you know, to end to give, in both memories or just

[00:04:21] to reminisce about all the greatness said he is that's a pleasure to do an even such a somber occasion.

[00:04:29] Yeah, I think you kind of hit the nail on the head too. Is that this isn't, you know, while

[00:04:34] this paying tribute to him by doing this, by talking about our top five favorite movies that he has

[00:04:40] done. That's what was some honorable mentions that will throw out there as well. You know it really

[00:04:45] is a celebration of his life by doing that so it's it's a great way to do that is by talking about

[00:04:51] his films talking about his filmography and talking about his legacy. Yeah, most definitely and we

[00:05:02] then even if it's a film that he was barely in or just, you know, one of many stars. He's

[00:05:11] you can't not, you can't miss games or a Jones. You can't not talk about him and even if it's

[00:05:18] just a walk in Camille or just a drive by as, or in a movie like Sandline and not to give

[00:05:32] a lot of people forgot that he was in, you know, when you think of the Sandline you think of

[00:05:36] the kids and you know, you're killing me smalls. But no, if the movie doesn't have the hard to

[00:05:43] does without James Earl Jones. Yeah, I mean, you mentioned so many iconic, you know, so many roles

[00:05:49] that he is a part of and a lot of people don't realize how many how many movies he's actually

[00:05:55] been a part of purely because he was top to be the narrator of the movie because his voice

[00:06:02] just like him and his performances is just as iconic, you know, from the voice of, you know,

[00:06:09] this is CNN. Yeah. You know, so many movies that he again, he was just they tapped him,

[00:06:18] Ken Burns' Abraham Lincoln series. He was the narrator on it. So many other movies he was just

[00:06:25] the narrator on, you know, the voice of Darth Vader in so many films. His voice is just as iconic

[00:06:32] as his face and his physical presence in any film that he's been in. Yeah, exactly. And the most

[00:06:38] ironic thing about James Earl Jones' voice is that this is someone who was born with a pronounced

[00:06:45] stutter and he spent a lot of his youth not speaking at all because when he was had to say his name

[00:06:55] and class or was introduced himself, he couldn't do it without severe stutter. So it was poetry,

[00:07:01] it was dramatic readings that got him to break it. But the I went, but just like he overachieved

[00:07:10] everything in his life he overcame a severe stutter and someone who remained silent for a lot of

[00:07:18] his, a lot of his youth would ironically become the most gifted voice actor of our time.

[00:07:26] And another amazing part of who James Earl Jones is. Yeah, yeah, you talk about actors that

[00:07:33] just have the gravitas of the voice that they have. I mean, other than James Earl Jones,

[00:07:39] maybe Morgan Freeman is kind of the only other one I can think of who just has that voice presence

[00:07:47] that you would say like, I want this man to narrate my life. Yes, you know, or if you're reading

[00:07:54] something and you read it in your James Earl Jones's voice. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. So yeah,

[00:08:04] I mean we talk about all these great roles that he was a part of and each of us has our own top five

[00:08:09] that favorites that we've chosen. These top five don't necessarily mean we feel like these are the

[00:08:17] favorites. They could be anything from a starring role or as you mentioned, a quick walk on

[00:08:22] cameo that just we feel enhanced the movie and was very memorable for us. So we're going to go

[00:08:29] down from five to one and reveal our top five for each of these as per noticed any other or

[00:08:34] as per any other episode of Will Helm, we just want to make it known. I have not revealed my top

[00:08:39] five to Craig. Craig is not revealed this top five to me. That's part of the fun of revealing

[00:08:45] these to each other is kind of the gauge or reactions as we do it. I'm sure we're probably going

[00:08:50] to share a couple that's just found to happen. Maybe not when we did fan expo, there was quite

[00:08:58] a few on your list that surprised me in the best way. So who knows? I mean we'll see what happens.

[00:09:07] They might not be in the same spot but you know, I'm sure there'll be at least one

[00:09:11] that we're wondering too. We're going to share. And as always because we are revealing these top

[00:09:18] five and we're going to dive into why we chose them a little bit, there is always a chance for

[00:09:23] spoiler. So if this is a movie you haven't seen before just be aware we're going to talk about it

[00:09:28] a little bit but hopefully this conversation as it does with me and as I hope it does with others

[00:09:34] kind of gives you that boost to want to watch these films. So with that being said, let's dive into

[00:09:41] our top five starting with number five. Greg, we're going to throw it over to you first.

[00:09:47] What do you have for your number five in top five favorites? My number five

[00:09:54] Ben of the top five James or Jones movies is one where guess what he was an in physically but his

[00:10:04] voice was. This was an in any film he did back way back in 1980 and his voice was very prominent

[00:10:16] in this and you could say or someone even argue and you wouldn't get a whole lot of argument.

[00:10:24] Then it's film he managed to utter possibly the most famous line in movie history,

[00:10:34] boy thing the most famous villain in movie history. My number five favorite James Earl Jones film

[00:10:41] is the Empire's rights back. Of course of course. It was funny because when you said a film

[00:10:48] from 1980 that like a little indie film, I was like well wait a minute like he said 1980

[00:10:55] I'm thinking Star Wars like it's got to be Empire but then you said indie film I'm like

[00:10:59] well no this is just Craig being Craig. I don't know if anyone had seen it at the time so

[00:11:07] yeah that was a thing that he did as a a large and we found out later that

[00:11:14] he was the James Earl Jones to do the voice of Darth Vader was paid $7,000 for his role.

[00:11:23] Wow I did not know that I didn't know that was all his pay for that movie. That was it and it

[00:11:29] was because Ben the person that they wanted for the role for the voice of Darth Vader

[00:11:36] had commanded a bigger salary and they wouldn't pay it. He turned it down so they thought they

[00:11:43] would lowball the next guy which was James Earl Jones the original voice or original person

[00:11:49] that Steven Spielberg wanted to voice to be the voice of Darth Vader was horse and wealth.

[00:11:55] That would have been interesting yeah I'm not a big booming voice kids if you don't know

[00:12:00] horse and wealth of Google that man and you'll you see that it device is one that resonates but

[00:12:08] he commanded it a well asked for a huge number that the producers weren't willing to give so

[00:12:16] the next guy they offered it said well you know and it was James Earl Jones $7,000 and

[00:12:23] I of course that figure is what a renegotiated after that but Empire Strikes back is my number five.

[00:12:33] That's a good one and I will tell you we do share that one but I it's not my number five

[00:12:40] so we will I will talk a little bit more when I get to that one on my list but of course Empire has to be

[00:12:47] I mean you talk about Darth Vader like that's gotta be it is there's going to be an upcoming

[00:12:52] episode of Will Home of Top 5 Favorite Movie Villains and Top 5 Favorite Television Villains

[00:12:58] there's no doubt in my mind whoever does those episodes with me or even myself

[00:13:02] Vader is on the list for yes yes you ask almost any person

[00:13:08] Vader is on the list even people that have no history or a knowledge or comprehension or

[00:13:15] liking of Star Wars knows Darth Vader yeah oh yeah 100% yeah so and and that again James Earl Jones

[00:13:24] because exactly so my number five is a series of movies that he did similar to Empire Strikes back

[00:13:35] and those other indie films as part of that trilogy and all the other films that preceded it

[00:13:41] is another series of films that he did based on a book series based on the Jack Ryan series

[00:13:47] and you know we have a number of them that he was a part of we have clear and present danger

[00:13:52] we have the hunt for an October and we have Patriot Games but I only wanted to choose one of them

[00:13:56] because one of them is absolutely a standout of my favorites it is one of the movies that

[00:14:02] I will watch any time I'm going through the channels and I see it pop up or if I'm just going

[00:14:08] to my own library and I see it I haven't seen it on them like yeah that's the one I want to watch

[00:14:12] and I choose I chose this one out of the three because one I feel like James Earl Jones'

[00:14:18] performance is the strongest in this one but it also has the star power of another amazing actor who

[00:14:24] we're we're going to talk about at some point in the will home and that is Sean Connery

[00:14:29] because number five for me is the hunt for a Red October

[00:14:32] great film you know we talk about you know James Earl Jones is portrayal of Admiral Griehl

[00:14:38] Admiral Griehl sorry it's just such like a commanding presence in in that movie and it

[00:14:47] just to me it like perfectly compliments the tense nature of like the Cold War film

[00:14:55] that we were that we were getting you know the character kind of just serves as like a moral

[00:15:01] anchor you know without like Baldwin and Sean Connery and and oh oh it's not Liam Neeson who's

[00:15:10] the other one or was it Liam no it's not Liam it's from Jurassic Park oh Sam Neil Sam Neil yep

[00:15:17] also one of the other Russians on the cell yeah so you know the star the star power in that is just

[00:15:25] amazing and his presence in that is just as captivating so yeah so for my number five

[00:15:32] of those three films I had to choose the hunt for Red October yeah it's a great choice and it's

[00:15:37] a great film and attribute to him because he said to play that same stoic constant

[00:15:45] authority figure for three different Jack Ryan's you know yeah that's right for Harrison Ford

[00:15:51] for Ben Affleck for you know Alc Baldwin till but the moral center is James Jargellus and again

[00:15:59] those movies don't work without him yeah well I think I don't think he played that character

[00:16:04] for Ben Affleck did he I think it was just it was I think clear present danger and Patriot

[00:16:09] games were both everything forward we're gonna not yeah yes so and those were that I think

[00:16:15] those were the three that he was in unless he was in more I I I know for short was though it's

[00:16:20] okay yeah I could be wrong he might have been in more of him he might have been an

[00:16:24] a Ben Affleck Jack Ryan movie I'm not sure I guess remember you're saying watch you back Jack

[00:16:28] and you have exactly and Ben did okay good number five so that brings us now to number four what

[00:16:36] she got number four for me was a groundbreaking film and it started the the career of a great many people

[00:16:49] but again I use the word regal when I talked about James Jargellus and this was probably

[00:16:57] James Jargellus at his most regal because he played a king King Jaffrey Jofor in coming to

[00:17:05] America so like number four just because the again the the crown the the lion's head of

[00:17:15] that he had and just the lines a King we've never had this discussion but I was assumed you

[00:17:25] had sex with your bays as I know I do and just that that Colleen would have that grin

[00:17:31] was just amazing the dad that you feared and respected but you also wanted to get out from under

[00:17:40] and his his his interaction with John Amos when he came to America and just there they

[00:17:51] and cause they've been friends for a long time but just that scene where you have been in convenience

[00:17:57] I'll have one million American dollars no very well two million just you got that money in the

[00:18:06] world jack and you say one more bad thing about my daughter I'm gonna stick my foot up your

[00:18:11] world ass and just like pardon me just talking crap to James Jargellus and living to tell about it

[00:18:20] his sense of comedic timing and just his is aura I mean when he steps out the cab but the

[00:18:28] rose bushes with the drum's playing and the music squirrelling off and he steps out the cab

[00:18:33] just he looks like he looks at the top when he walks out and seeing that on the big screen

[00:18:39] and I saw it opening weekend with a you know a packed house full of people

[00:18:44] the the audience you'd already see we'd already seen him through most of the film but when he

[00:18:48] came to America when he stepped out on the rose bushes in Queens and just stood up just

[00:18:55] everyone's cheered and I've that some a movie moment and that's the thing about

[00:18:59] everything we say on these lists that movie moments you know where you were you remember the time

[00:19:05] when you heard or you saw James Earl Jones say this line or do this thing and for me coming to America

[00:19:11] it will always have that movie moment of James Earl Jones as the you know the proud king of

[00:19:18] Zimunda yeah it's I mean so coming to America I will I will admit and shamefully

[00:19:25] is not in my top five but I say that again shamefully because it was hard to not have it in my top five

[00:19:36] if you know if I could extend my list it would be number six auto-must because

[00:19:43] again it was really difficult to not put it in my top five only because of the number of great

[00:19:51] roles he has you know and when there comes a time that I do in any Murphy episode like that is

[00:19:58] such a great movie in itself his performance aside but between everybody with our senior hall

[00:20:05] and you know any Murphy and you know all the other great cast of characters even down to Louis Anderson

[00:20:13] it's you know that I have a feeling when I do the any Murphy episode that's going to be in a top

[00:20:18] five it's a part of some of these because it is such a great movie and you know what I

[00:20:24] I kind of feel like the sequels are a little underrated yeah yeah I came out you know from right

[00:20:31] from the the shadow of COVID and it came on Amazon Prime I think he had it had we not you know gone

[00:20:38] through the public health care it would have done fine in the theaters but yeah so that's

[00:20:45] something that I watched several times when when it first really was released on the streaming services

[00:20:53] she in his part was an as big it was you know it was kind of small but just having him in there

[00:21:00] really made it you know defined it for me because yeah you can imagine coming to America without James Earl Jones exactly

[00:21:08] yeah it's like imagining Star Wars without James Earl Jones you know yeah he's in his other

[00:21:14] but no that's like that's a great choice and again regrettably regrettably not in my top five

[00:21:19] and I kind of it was really close it's funny though because you know for my number four

[00:21:27] when you started talking about playing a king he has done that multiple times so when you say playing a

[00:21:34] you still kind of question like okay which movie is he talking about because it could come

[00:21:40] down to a number of films for my number four I want to talk about baseball which could also come

[00:21:48] down to a number of films but for my number four it's one that kind of just it brings me back

[00:21:57] childhood it makes me feel good anytime I watch it it's not the biggest role for him but again

[00:22:05] it's kind of pivotal and that's because my number four is the sandlot there you go wonderful you know

[00:22:13] he plays Mr. Murdoch who was a former baseball star and you know he's he becomes like this pivotal

[00:22:22] character in these young boys lives they think he's just this angry old man who just hates the world

[00:22:31] and you know he just he brings in like this more nostalgic love for baseball with these kids

[00:22:39] and it just his presence just adds like this whole layer of backstory and emotion

[00:22:46] and it just makes the film resonate so much better again it's not a large role for him

[00:22:53] but it's so memorable and so iconic that and so important to the movie that it didn't have to be

[00:23:02] a large role to resonate the way that it did it did and just to see him with the kid with the

[00:23:09] baby with baseball because you know you can take this one you can have mine and just that the

[00:23:16] gesture you know because all this time they thought yeah like he said that he was an angry bitter old man

[00:23:23] without knowing you know the history of a film and his his connection to baseball

[00:23:29] and it just made you know it's kind of like the the old man in home alone you know they were always

[00:23:35] him he was like a we got body parted his backyard and he's someone that just you know that

[00:23:42] the missed his family and yeah James Royal Jones in the family was someone that missed you know

[00:23:48] his connection with baseball because it was a lot deeper than that so much so they would help out

[00:23:53] you know yeah this kid yeah I love it too because I don't know if you I don't know if you

[00:24:04] listen and that's his episode of the Big Bang Theory yeah that he did where Sheldon meets him

[00:24:11] at a restaurant and they kind of play with it the same way the Sandlot did in that like when Sheldon

[00:24:17] standing there James comes across this like this angry man who's being bothered by this fan

[00:24:25] and it turns out he loves the fact that this guy is a fan of Star Wars because he's a big fan of

[00:24:34] they kind of played with that in that episode too similar to like the incorporated Star Wars but

[00:24:39] also the relationship of the Sandlot in this cameo throughout this entire episode it was just

[00:24:45] wonderful it was wonderful so that now brings us to our top three one do you have for number three

[00:24:57] well Ben before we went on the air we were discussing our history of top five and the last time

[00:25:03] did a top five big um at fan expo I mentioned some movies that you weren't familiar with and

[00:25:09] that turned out a lot of the audience that we did our show on the front of one from familiar with

[00:25:14] well we're gonna get probably in that territory because my number three I'm all for

[00:25:19] favorite James Earl Jones movie came out 1986 this is something that I saw in the theaters

[00:25:25] because the premise was so outlandish and it's a movie that probably wouldn't be made today

[00:25:33] can I guess you can guess is it soul man? my number three James Earl Jones movie is in

[00:25:40] the soul man yes

[00:25:45] because you don't know a seat time is how of tries to get into Harvard and he's rejected

[00:25:53] but through the use of canning pills he turns himself black and because he is a soul

[00:26:01] black student one of only two black applicants to Harvard he gets accepted and to Harvard as a black man

[00:26:09] and just just so you know you have to be black or there is the way he goes hey man in

[00:26:15] 86 black people are in it's the cosmic decade of one of the lines from the film

[00:26:22] and his professor was James Earl Jones and see Thomas out with all he's a brother he'll understand

[00:26:30] and of course James Earl Jones was James Earl Jones no nonsense he didn't care who you were

[00:26:35] what color you were he come to my class on time you have your your your prepared

[00:26:40] and no excuses and because of the color of his skin

[00:26:45] see Thomas howell is subject to racism and beat up and get into a fight and thrown in jail

[00:26:52] and he because of that he missed an important paper and James Earl Jones is character

[00:26:58] flunked him and see Thomas howell thinking he's black and coming to James Earl Jones

[00:27:05] think I would think you of all people would understand my plate and the monologue he gave

[00:27:12] to see Thomas howell still resonates today because it's still important today

[00:27:19] he said that's exactly why I'm not going to give you not going to cut you any slack

[00:27:25] because I'm because of the color of your skin if that means you have to work twice it's hard

[00:27:31] if these little white ships then that's what you're going to do and if you get locked up again

[00:27:36] you're allowed one phone call here's my number I'll bring your books and that was

[00:27:44] that's all I needed for that of course and we find out Thomas howell is white and everyone's like

[00:27:51] oh well that explains why he can't play basketball and Malora Hardin who's a place Jan

[00:27:59] on the office and she played the Whitney who was like enamored with black men and always wanted

[00:28:07] to and of course she goes well that no wonder why his you know his penis was so small

[00:28:14] it is a comedy but yeah but the James Earl Jones his role in it again like in San

[00:28:22] not not very big but looned large because of his presence and because of a monologue he gave

[00:28:28] to this young man just young quote unquote black man that in order for you to succeed you have

[00:28:36] to do twice as much as anyone else and I'm not going to give you any extra help or extra

[00:28:43] consideration because of a color your skin because it that's not how life works and it really

[00:28:50] still resonates with me almost got film got to be 40 years old in a couple of years but yeah

[00:28:58] though my number three was a is soul man the the moment that you said it's probably a film that

[00:29:05] couldn't be made today that was almost like my brain did the quick math of like okay 86 what kind

[00:29:13] of movie could be like yeah so man definitely could not be made today that is a movie I have not

[00:29:20] seen in a long time but I do remember quite fondly you know it's probably been a good 15

[00:29:27] 20 years since I've seen that movie but you mentioned you know Malora Hardin and I remember

[00:29:32] Ray Dongchang is in that movie I think I remember Leslie Nielsen. Leslie Nielsen played her

[00:29:40] played her. Wait his father wasn't it yeah Max Wright who played the father and Alphay

[00:29:46] remember being like there's a lot of familiar faces Julia Louis Dreyfus. Oh I don't remember

[00:29:53] Julia Louis Dreyfus being in the movie. Yeah I'm gonna have to go back and watch that again that's been

[00:30:00] yeah it's been a while and good luck finding it then because it's not playing on any you know

[00:30:04] on any regularity. You can move from the 80s you could find on cable TV somewhere but not that one.

[00:30:10] Huh I have my ways I'll try to find it we'll see I mean if I find it somewhere

[00:30:15] like you know but it's how you could do that trauma like anytime of any day or

[00:30:21] job exams under but soul man yeah it's okay I'm gonna get this. I'll pay like three or four

[00:30:28] bucks to rent it for Amazon if it's on Amazon it's fine. No that's a good pick that's a real deep

[00:30:34] cut too because again like I have not seen or even talked about that movie in a long time

[00:30:41] so that's I just wrote that down I'm gonna have to go back and

[00:30:46] find that one and give it a watch again and I don't know if it'll hold up but yeah I might be a little

[00:30:57] shadow so then that brings me to my number three and this is of this is going to be our first repeat

[00:31:04] of any of them it was your number five and that is Empire Strikes Back. I mentioned that it had

[00:31:12] to be it was in my top five as well and yeah I mean it's you know we talk about iconic villains

[00:31:19] and we talk about iconic characters and we can't under appreciate of course the actor that

[00:31:24] physically portrayed Vader as well but without that just iconic voice behind it I don't think

[00:31:33] the character would have had the same gravitas that that it did you know we talk about

[00:31:40] you know again we talk about iconic villains but as of all of the Star Trek Star Trek

[00:31:47] wrong franchise policies all of the Star Wars projects that James has lent his voice to

[00:31:55] whether it's the original trilogy the new trilogy the old the the the the the prequel trilogy

[00:32:01] rogue one Obi-wan like any of these that he let his voice to to me Empire is I think the

[00:32:11] greatest and most iconic performance of Vader in any of those films you know the whole

[00:32:19] that's not true that's in pot like I'm your father that's not true that's impossible it is

[00:32:26] to this day still one of the biggest like yeah it's the most memorable item of history

[00:32:33] yeah like and it's one of the most iconic moments of like revealing something it's one of the most

[00:32:41] iconic reveals in movie history I still get enjoyment to this day of watching videos on

[00:32:49] YouTube or even my own friends showing their kids Star Wars for the first time and recording their

[00:32:56] reactions to that moment yes you know because I remember my own reaction to that moment so to see

[00:33:05] that that that the to see that the reaction to that moment will live on probably forever

[00:33:12] yeah in its own way makes his performance as Vader live forever

[00:33:19] those definitely and you know it's just it's just an unforgettable performance that he gave

[00:33:27] through voice acting and you know because I've had the opportunity to meet a number of voice actors

[00:33:35] in over the years whether it be through the podcast or through events and shows and the one

[00:33:41] piece of advice that always give you is that to be a good voice actor you have to be an actor first

[00:33:47] because you have to be able to portray emotion with simply the use of your voice with no physical

[00:33:52] attributes to it and again his performances Vader in Empire Strikes Back to Me is a masterclass

[00:34:02] of that. Let's definitely it's I'm surprised it's not higher on my list but

[00:34:10] it's in the top five and that's all the matters. That is all that matters you know it would be

[00:34:14] on a lot of people's number one that I'm sure the people that have to listen to is right now

[00:34:18] how is that number three or how is that number five? Yeah exactly. Frame a slide and movie

[00:34:24] history and most famous villain and movie history activity that's the Draby to James Jojoins

[00:34:29] that he has so many great moments and so many great films that you know this one

[00:34:36] didn't make the number one but again he said some top five so well I mean and again too we said

[00:34:42] it at the top but it's always been the caveat of this podcast is that we're not talking about

[00:34:48] what we feel are the greatest performances of James Jojoins. We're talking about our favorite

[00:34:54] performances of James Jojoins so there could be other attributes that kind of enhance other

[00:35:00] choices over others could be other people that are in the film that could be the subject of the

[00:35:05] film it could be speeches that they gave as you mentioned with so many like the speeches that kind

[00:35:09] of resonate with us. It's not just the performance itself there's other things that make them favorites

[00:35:17] so while Empire could be one of James's greatest performances of all time which arguably I

[00:35:23] think it is yeah it's not my favorite movie that he's in so you know yeah that said

[00:35:33] let's dive into our top two number two on your list I'm see there's two neither of my two top two

[00:35:43] have been mentioned yet so I'm almost wondering if we have to share at least one of these you think

[00:35:49] it's not both we'll see but what if you got for your number two.

[00:35:54] My number two then and please I mean then you're the other guys sorry

[00:36:01] I like my number two then please keep in mind that I'm significantly older than you and so when I

[00:36:09] saw this movie I was a youth but I played so often and what made this movie say that for me

[00:36:20] was James O'Jones performance and that a lot of people don't see or didn't see when you know the

[00:36:29] world became aware of James O'Jones the actor and not just a voice actor but this movie sticks out to

[00:36:35] me because this movie showcased James O'Jones the love interest James O'Jones the sexy man

[00:36:44] when this film came out in 1974 it was it was an Oscar nominated movie and Diane Carroll played

[00:36:54] the lead role and she was nominated for Best Actress but would make what gave her that gravitas

[00:37:00] was her leading man and that was James O'Jones as the beautiful boyfriend who was just trying to

[00:37:09] make this woman happy it's woman at six kids they were on welfare they were threatened by a social

[00:37:16] worker like seemingly every week and he was just a man that fell in love with this woman despite

[00:37:22] all of her and him her trying to drive him off you don't want nothing to do with me he was always there

[00:37:29] and that James O'Jones for the 70s that role made him a significant leading man or a romantic

[00:37:36] lead that you don't associate that lead that with James O'Jones but this movie did my number

[00:37:43] two then and my top five James O'Jones favorite is Claudine okay 1974 I admittedly have never seen

[00:37:57] Claudine but from everything you just told me I am I'm writing it down

[00:38:04] because and again anybody who's listened to the podcast knows I write down movies constantly

[00:38:11] for me to go back and watch because I love seeing movies for the first time and you talking about

[00:38:16] this kind of being a different side of him and you're right we don't often see him if ever as a leading man

[00:38:24] romanticly so that alone makes me kind of want to go back and watch this movie purely because I

[00:38:31] want to see that different side of his acting chops because from everything we've seen of that he

[00:38:37] can do so far or that he can do I already know without a shadow of a doubt purely by what you said

[00:38:44] about the movie and what I already know of his performances in the past he can pull it off oh yeah yeah

[00:38:51] and the what made the movie stand out not so much I mean the the the acting and the

[00:38:58] cinematography shot on location in Brooklyn the soundtrack the entire soundtrack of the movie

[00:39:04] is glad it's night in the pips and that it's not and does not have been nitranged your genet

[00:39:10] so if you will think like every song in this film was done by glad it's night in the pips

[00:39:16] and it shows the and every emotion you're feeling there's a song that matches it and the music

[00:39:24] was makes the movie as much as he acting does it's 1974 and we're coming right off the

[00:39:32] the end of the civil rights movement but these these characters that we see you are automatically invested in

[00:39:39] Diane Carol plays a maid she has to go from her home in Brooklyn in the projects take a

[00:39:46] subway and take a bus and take another bus to this long island suburb where she's a maid

[00:39:52] in this woman's house and she gets you know side-eyed looks from them and genealogyones is

[00:40:00] the garbage man that comes by every once a week to pick up their trash and just the way to her

[00:40:08] and that was it and you know he's at you know on that and you win that deep voice you know

[00:40:13] I don't come out of here really just to pick up trash you know and she she find and she

[00:40:19] he's pulling away and then finally and then she runs out and just yell that her her number to him

[00:40:25] just to just give him a chance and she goes on to write a doubt if no no I got it so easy

[00:40:30] James on the back of a garbage shop just waving to her and that big smile on his face full

[00:40:36] of hair and this was a guy that the audience women instantly fell in love with like why can't

[00:40:43] I mean it kind of like that a guy that's just a nice sweet you know generous guy that would go

[00:40:51] that would go out of his way just to you know just to say hi to this woman he feeds every week

[00:40:57] and just to just to make her happy yeah yeah you're right like I could see the attraction of like a

[00:41:04] nice like you said a nice generous friendly working class man like yeah I could absolutely

[00:41:13] see the attraction and that so I wrote it down I am a I'm glad you that one was your number two

[00:41:17] because again I love it when there are movies in top five that I've never seen because now

[00:41:22] they are added to the list of movies I need to check out so good pick thank you I've heard of it

[00:41:28] just it's just I it's I've never had the opportunity to see it I thought I said this movie this

[00:41:34] movie celebrating is 50th anniversary then came up 50 years ago so I have to go if you have it

[00:41:41] it's really okay I guess it's it's the perfect time to watch it now to celebrate him and the 50th

[00:41:47] anniversary of the movie of glory yes so so then that brings me then to my number two not a movie as

[00:41:57] as celebrating 50 years and I don't think you are that much I don't think you're that significantly

[00:42:06] over there I am but this is a movie that I also watched as a mute

[00:42:16] and it's still to this day holds its place as one of my all-time favorite Disney

[00:42:23] animated films and that's the Lion King you know we talked about you know roles where he played a

[00:42:32] king coming to America and the sea and it's in its sequel the Lion King is another one of those movies

[00:42:39] you know Mofasa is one of the most beloved roles and he just lends his like just that iconic

[00:42:48] powerful voice to just a wise and noble king you know that the presence in the film is just it's kind

[00:42:57] of like we talked about roles like where he's a smaller part of it but he's iconic of it and this is

[00:43:05] kind of another similar thing like that he's not in the whole movie but he is in a larger part of it

[00:43:16] it's his like I'm trying to find the words like he he Mofasa is basically the emotional backbone of

[00:43:25] of the Lion King yes you know it's it's the guiding you know it's the guidance it's symbols guidance

[00:43:32] it's the inspiration it's the wisdom it's the kindness it's the strength similar to his character

[00:43:37] and Claudia in that you were just mentioning you know he seems to portray a lot of those characteristics

[00:43:43] and many of the roles that he plays and man like Mofasa is just another one of those roles that

[00:43:51] it just shines through every one of those characteristics just shines through so much so that the death of Mofasa

[00:44:01] like it never we felt that whether we were kids we were adults we're teenagers no matter what

[00:44:09] point your life you were seeing the Lion King for the first time you were feeling that moment

[00:44:14] and it affected you and it's again it's the reason why to this day the Lion King is still

[00:44:20] one of my all-time favorite Disney animated movies of course it held the record for the most

[00:44:26] high-thruity animated film a while time and would make the Lion King it's so special and so time was

[00:44:33] just like with Empire just like with the the Lion's his book that are still we all connected in the

[00:44:40] great circle of life or with everything that some my touches belongs to you I mean the fathers use this

[00:44:47] you know be blind for their kids yeah it's like they're in the Lion King based still doing to this day

[00:44:59] yes and I say I was a you when I saw that movie I was 15 so I was as a teenager when I saw

[00:45:07] that movie it's you'd like but again it because it's so timeless then it didn't matter if

[00:45:12] you were teenagers if you were a kid or if you were in your 20s or your 30s when

[00:45:17] thing the Lion King wasn't event so much so that in back when Disney started their

[00:45:23] job or not of full length animated feature films that would gross $200 million and you know that was

[00:45:31] this is during the beauty in the beast 11 era it was I mean you you had what what a time

[00:45:38] what a run Disney had during that time you had the Lion King beauty in the beast Aladdin the little

[00:45:44] mermaid hercules like the run of animated movies they had at that time and they all still hold up

[00:45:52] exactly and they weren't just seen by kids they I mean parents took their kids but like wrong

[00:45:58] men went to see these movies because a good one they would come out you at they would open a number

[00:46:04] one of the box office and you had to see them so people would talk about this and work didn't even

[00:46:10] have kids I didn't have kids and I wasn't even a kid but I went to see these movies because

[00:46:17] they were the biggest movies in the world at the time every time I won't lie man

[00:46:21] I'm in my I'm in my mid 40s and I I'm not without kids I still look forward anytime

[00:46:29] Disney puts out new movies of course still look forward to them it's ingrained in you because

[00:46:33] you've been doing it since you were since you can remember so and and during that run

[00:46:39] doing that Lion King you know little mermaid feeling the beast run you had to because

[00:46:46] I mean with me yeah and I think that run of movies you know bringing it back to the Lion King

[00:46:52] and James O'Jones is performance I mean you look at you know let's take three of those movies for

[00:46:58] example with the Lion King Aladdin and Hercules you look at the voice cast that those movies had

[00:47:04] you had James Earl Jones in the Lion King you had Robin Williams in Aladdin James Woods and Danny DeVito

[00:47:11] in Hercules like you you had these iconic actors playing these iconic roles and James Earl Jones

[00:47:18] being again you know one of the the the greater ones there and they resonate so much in our lives

[00:47:26] at that point in time and even now to this day that I think those roles are the reasons why we still

[00:47:33] love Disney movies to this day. Love definitely not definitely. I mean no disrespect to earlier

[00:47:39] movies like Cinderella or sleeping out here. I mean yeah no way and all that and Cinderella I mean

[00:47:44] that that's where they started we had to start somewhere but that that period of time were

[00:47:50] Disney made magic that was just they just expanded on what they were already doing and

[00:47:57] they Disney films are already you know in events and it created the wonderful world of Disney

[00:48:02] but that time that time period they just just took a to another level which they really haven't

[00:48:08] come down from yeah they started there and in Lion King I guess I said it at one point it was the

[00:48:15] highest roasting animated movie of all time and it deserves it. So thank you so that brings us now

[00:48:25] two hour number one picks for our top five favorite James Earl Jones films and I'll turn it back

[00:48:33] over to you Craig what is your number one favorite James Earl Jones movie? My number one favorite

[00:48:41] James Earl Jones movie that came instantly when I heard about his untimely passing

[00:48:48] this was the first movie that I thought of because it was the first one that I first movie of

[00:48:55] as I saw all the way through. I did a book report on the person it was James Earl Jones played

[00:49:04] a real life person in history and he did it so well and he played this role on Broadway I didn't

[00:49:12] find that this out till later and he recreated the same role on film and this movie believe it

[00:49:22] or not is the only movie where he was nominated for best actor that he has only asked her nomination

[00:49:29] came in this film. My favorite James Earl Jones film my favorite James Earl Jones performance

[00:49:34] all all time was his role as Jack Johnson in the great white hope. That is so I have never seen

[00:49:47] the great white hope similar to Claudine I am aware of it. Was it a Jack Jefferson?

[00:49:55] In Jack Jefferson is his real name. In the EI you're right in the movie is Jack Jefferson he was playing

[00:50:03] Jack Johnson. Oh, gotcha okay. He's based on the real life Jack Johnson but yes his role movie was

[00:50:09] Jack Jefferson and he was the only Oscar nomination he's ever had was for best actor in 1977 before

[00:50:18] the great white hope of playing this character the first black heavyweight champion of the world

[00:50:27] and his it was an action film he did all of his own stuff he did all of his own boxing

[00:50:34] and he didn't gain any weight for it he didn't do a deniro he was just he was James Earl Jones

[00:50:40] but he just embodies such a spirit. Jane Alexander played his wife and what made the film so

[00:50:51] so daring is because it based on a true story he married a white woman which was illegal in

[00:51:00] some states but when he got me he crossed state lines to get married that's what he got locked up for

[00:51:06] and so to to combat that and with being the heavyweight champion of the world he had a great

[00:51:15] scene and every scene he was in and that's one of the why it's my favorite performance because

[00:51:21] you know we commented on our our list of great performance by James Earl Jones in movies that he

[00:51:27] wasn't in a lot or he was barely in but he his his little his um his appearance resonated like

[00:51:36] and sandlot or an empire great white hope he was in every scene in this film and then almost two

[00:51:43] hour movie because he was a central character being Jack Jefferson the first black heavyweight champion

[00:51:50] and being the subject of just the most intense racism everywhere he went and he had a smile on

[00:51:55] face everywhere when he would come out and face these white challengers because now I'm

[00:52:01] saying the title kids because the most of the country was so incense that a black man

[00:52:08] was a heavyweight champion of the world any white challenger that went up against him they would be

[00:52:14] the great white hope they would be the one to finally just thrown him dead that would be the

[00:52:20] and it was built up in real time it was in real life it was just willard was given that title because

[00:52:28] he was a six foot seven toward and fifty pound behemoth who was so strong he killed a seven point

[00:52:37] buck through it over shoulder and walked ten miles home that's how big this guy was and he

[00:52:43] was supposed to be the one to just throw in Jack Johnson and this is a 1901 and when he didn't

[00:52:51] when he was defeated easily by Jack Johnson there was race riding in the streets Teddy Rose

[00:52:59] Bell listened to the fight on the radio and he was so incense by the outcome that he can't

[00:53:04] feel the press conference he had that day it was the first fight of the century and it's been

[00:53:10] labeled over and over again but that's who James Earl Jones is playing in this movie

[00:53:16] in the great white hope and there was a pivotal scene where a bunch of

[00:53:24] black group of black man came to see him fight and he saw them in a distance and they weren't

[00:53:32] allowed in and he says you guys couldn't get any seats and his manager saying it's best they

[00:53:38] don't go in Jack because you guys came all the way I didn't see me yeah we came out here to pray

[00:53:43] for you brother and he goes well if you're bad and your prayer should you know should pay off

[00:53:47] in the fifth because no we're praying for you for you know to help us for us colored folks

[00:53:54] because you had your praying for for me just yeah because after you win I'm going to be proud

[00:54:01] to be black tomorrow and James Earl Jones said well if you ain't already proud and all the

[00:54:07] people in the world and all the praying they're going to do it for you and so you praying here

[00:54:11] for me you know praying for me all I am is some black ugly fist here you know praying

[00:54:16] oh Lord don't let them go in and leave town without getting shot oh Lord don't let them don't

[00:54:21] let these people hang him after the fight's over I'm nothing of you but a black ugly fist

[00:54:27] and he walked away the the way he captured that moment and the way he saw himself is not a

[00:54:35] symbol of black justice or anything I'm a I do this for me I'm a fight for me everything I've

[00:54:42] got I got oh my own so I don't need you praying for me I don't need on that some savior of the

[00:54:47] black race I'm just I'm Jack Jefferson and in her demon Oscar nomination it really propels his

[00:54:55] career to he had been a Broadway actor for for so long and doing a fellow doing driving this day

[00:55:02] on Broadway and doing this the play the great white hope on Broadway but this L this started

[00:55:10] his movie career to which were paying tribute to him now and it gave him his only Oscar nomination

[00:55:17] my number one favorite James Earl Jones movie of all time is the great white hope

[00:55:22] you that whole explanation and talking about the speech and and everything I wrote it down

[00:55:31] already before you even talked about that because again this is a movie I've been aware of and

[00:55:36] I've never seen you want with 100% certainty you basically just sold me on the fact that

[00:55:44] I need to watch this not soon I need to watch this this week because I love like emotional

[00:55:55] inspirational stories like that you know it doesn't matter whether it's racially

[00:56:04] charged or anything like that I'm just a big sucker for inspirational things for people who

[00:56:09] overcome I love movies like that and to know that this is one of those kind of movies this is an inspirational

[00:56:15] film not only that but this is a film as you mentioned that earned him an Oscar nomination

[00:56:21] like that means that that's a performance that I want to see so now I'm like yes like I've literally

[00:56:29] circled it like four times while you were talking like find this movie and watch this movie soon

[00:56:38] thank you I'm glad I can do it and for anyone else listen to the podcast that it

[00:56:43] It entices you to go seek out this landmark film then please do so

[00:56:50] It's just a fine film and it's again one my favorite action performance

[00:56:54] And if you only know James Earl Jones for him is later work

[00:56:57] seeing James Earl Jones as a young man as a young fitman

[00:57:02] And to in his physical prime

[00:57:04] Yeah, see it I can't I cannot recommend it enough perfect that's a great choice for number one

[00:57:12] Thank you sir. So that leads me now to my number one choice

[00:57:17] We talked about movies where he played kings and we talked about movies that are movies about baseball

[00:57:24] So my number one is a movie that I will

[00:57:29] freely admit I I did not watch

[00:57:32] For a very long time as a matter of fact I just saw this movie for the first time

[00:57:39] This year what earlier this year was the first time I ever saw this film and it's because

[00:57:48] In towards the end of last season of Wilhelm we did a top five favorite baseball movies

[00:57:52] And in doing my research for that I was like well there's no way I can list top five favorite baseball movies

[00:57:59] Without having watched this one

[00:58:01] Because I can't go my life having never seen this movie and I watched it and I was like

[00:58:09] I just remember like being in the first like half hour of the movie and I'm like I don't see what everybody loves about this movie

[00:58:16] It's not it's okay, and then by the end of the movie being like

[00:58:22] Holy shit

[00:58:23] That's out of the greatest

[00:58:25] That's one of the greatest movies I've ever seen

[00:58:28] And I think a lot of it comes down to James Earl Jones's performance

[00:58:34] as Terrence Man

[00:58:36] Infield of Dreams

[00:58:37] Wonderful wonderful

[00:58:39] His role is nothing short of magical in that movie the the journey that his character makes

[00:58:48] From being like a delusional

[00:58:51] Disillusioned recluse to becoming just a believer in the impossible

[00:58:58] It so perfectly

[00:59:01] Compliments the theme of the movie

[00:59:03] Like all of the themes of the movie the themes of redemption the themes of dreams healing power of baseball

[00:59:10] It just

[00:59:11] His character and his performance just encapsulate that so much. He is whole we talk about like in packed full speeches

[00:59:20] Yeah, and his monologue about

[00:59:24] Baseballs in darning significance

[00:59:28] Just it is the heart and soul of that movie like a like I just remember by the end of that film being like as I said like okay

[00:59:38] Now I understand it

[00:59:40] Now I get it now. I know why everybody loves this movie and it really truly comes down to his performance

[00:59:48] Nothing against Kevin Cossner or anybody else in that movie

[00:59:52] But that movie truly finds its magic

[00:59:56] When his when turnance man comes into the films

[01:00:01] Just the two words that

[01:00:04] Seulidified everything they got

[01:00:07] Audiences galvanized when they saw it on the screen for the first time

[01:00:11] Moonlight Graham

[01:00:12] Yeah

[01:00:13] Turns around you see him in the middle of the and is it oh my god, you saw it you saw it

[01:00:19] Yes, what I see Ray and yeah the the the speech of baseball

[01:00:24] They will come Ray oh they'll come from miles and miles around

[01:00:29] when

[01:00:31] When made two years ago

[01:00:33] When they had a special

[01:00:36] baseball

[01:00:37] during the baseball season they played a baseball game in the actual field of dreams

[01:00:44] Stadium in Iowa in the cornfields

[01:00:47] The players entered

[01:00:50] Through the corn

[01:00:52] The entrance of diamond through the corn

[01:00:55] And the jane they played the james arrow Jones monologue as they were walking into

[01:01:01] Walking on to the field and these are two teams adding give a crap about

[01:01:05] But watching that and hearing it I cried watching before a baseball game even started because it's james

[01:01:13] Your old Jones voice

[01:01:15] No, no, please continue

[01:01:16] No

[01:01:18] Two years ago, yeah, I think it was two years ago

[01:01:21] But they decided to have that they promoted it all year and during baseball that you're going to have a baseball game

[01:01:27] At the actual field of dreams baseball fields of baseball field, fun field of dreams

[01:01:32] And they had to stand up there and the players entered through the cornfields

[01:01:37] And just one of the time they were wearing the old time uniforms at over the voice over of james arrow Jones

[01:01:43] And I cried like a baby because

[01:01:47] Just like my dad would have loved this and it's field of dreams is

[01:01:53] The brine song of the new generation of men crying that it's okay for guys to cry if

[01:01:59] It was brine song in the one generation in this generation of field of dreams

[01:02:04] It's it's somebody that you say that too because I as I get older I find myself

[01:02:11] As an easy cryer I get so emotional over the dumbest stuff

[01:02:18] For example, we talked about Disney like I just watched inside out too for the first time the other day

[01:02:24] Oh, and I was totally crying

[01:02:26] By the end of that movie

[01:02:28] Because as somebody who suffers from anxiety that movie perfectly nailed anxiety

[01:02:33] So like oh my god, I feel this I am rightly right now

[01:02:38] But like you know we talk about like like you said like Brian song and field of dreams as movies that make men cry

[01:02:45] The more I think about it, I think like there are so many for men

[01:02:50] I think you're right sports movies

[01:02:53] To make men cry more than anything else

[01:02:57] You know we talk of like remember the Titans in really and like all these other great sports films that just make us cry as men

[01:03:05] It's ridiculous

[01:03:08] Great joy though, but yeah like you know again nothing against Kevin Costner Ray Leota is fantastic

[01:03:14] It was Joe in the movie

[01:03:17] And Matt again Timothy busfield as his you know as her brother when he finally sees it

[01:03:23] Like the whole time like the whole movie like you have to sell that you can't you have to get rid of this and by the end

[01:03:28] He's like oh you're not selling this field

[01:03:30] Like you're not selling this like even him becoming a believer. It's

[01:03:35] It's just it's there's so much magic to that film and nostalgia that when I was

[01:03:42] It happened so often doing this podcast is that when it comes to

[01:03:47] Pitch-oosing an actor or choosing a franchise where we're doing a top five

[01:03:52] Oftentimes my number one is an immediate pick yeah, it's like okay like I know what my number one is now

[01:04:00] 2 through 5 and

[01:04:02] When it came to this field of the dreams was like yep, I know my number one is now I got a 2 through 5

[01:04:10] And field of the dreams was it and that's an and that's an easy one and for a lot of

[01:04:15] Folks that's an easy one

[01:04:17] It's in my honorable mention spoiler over and one of my favorite moments of field of dreams was when

[01:04:24] Ray Leota

[01:04:26] Just said you want to come with us

[01:04:29] And Kevin Costa is yeah, I wasn't talking to you and James Earl Jones is exit

[01:04:37] It says yeah, what's out there? So he's going to come and find out

[01:04:41] And it was so bitter sweet because

[01:04:45] We know we're not going to see him again. Yeah, and he says you take care of this family

[01:04:50] But he didn't fight he said well why can't I come because because you weren't invited right?

[01:04:55] That just you know it hits but we just met this we just met Terrence man. We just met

[01:05:04] He's now a believer and

[01:05:07] Now he's gone. Yeah

[01:05:09] You're right it's bitter sweet, but

[01:05:13] You're right like it's it's we talk about those emotional moments that kind of make men cry and

[01:05:19] You know that's one of them because you're right we just met Terrence man and it's bitter sweet because like you mentioned

[01:05:24] We know we're not going to see him again, but we also know he's going to be happy

[01:05:28] Yes, and it's like well man like okay like we can't say no like we have to let him go you have to accept this

[01:05:36] You know yeah, and Kevin Costa is bargaining with like a you know I get all this you know

[01:05:42] Built is everything and I'm not one time that I ask what's in it for me? It's the way thing. I'm saying

[01:05:47] What's in it for me? Yeah

[01:05:51] That's just I yep feel the dreams my number one favorite James Hill Jones well welcome to the party Ben

[01:05:59] We're we're jumping on board the field of dream stream. Yeah, I'm I'm kind of ashamed that it took me that long to watch that movie

[01:06:08] You know Ben easily when you when you promote on and social media and I follow you of course

[01:06:13] When you say I'm seeing this movie burst out you said I give you a hard time

[01:06:17] I think oh well it's 1996 already

[01:06:21] This one

[01:06:22] I think I'm not gonna give you any crap for this because I just want you to see it if you don't like it as one thing

[01:06:27] everything I don't get what everyone sees about this but the fact that you saw it and you got it and just like that

[01:06:34] It's your number one favorite film of James Earl Jones

[01:06:39] speaks volumes of the movie of you of the timeless nature of it

[01:06:45] that you just saw this movie that's

[01:06:48] You know 40 years old and you're seeing it now

[01:06:51] And it's and it's already your number one amazing

[01:06:55] So so happy for you. So and when I did the baseball episode too like it immediately jumped in the my top five like I was like okay

[01:07:03] I've seen a lot of great baseball movies

[01:07:05] This is I've only seen this movie once and it's in my top five

[01:07:10] Yeah, so yeah

[01:07:12] Wonderful welcome for thank you

[01:07:15] I'm happy to be here

[01:07:19] Let's knock out some honorable mentions before we start to you know to wrap this episode up

[01:07:23] I don't have many

[01:07:25] So I'll kind of lead it over to you to kind of throw out a couple of the ones that you have

[01:07:31] Okay, well my honorable mentions one of them and most of it include baseball

[01:07:35] Feel the dreams who is my honorable mention

[01:07:38] It's only for his emotional impact in it and

[01:07:43] There's so many other things for me was all about Rayleigh Oda and I haven't a catch with

[01:07:49] Your dad with your dad my other honorable mentioned was another baseball film

[01:07:56] And it talked about it's

[01:08:00] Bingo long and then traveling all stars

[01:08:02] They were it was a film based on the even Negro leagues

[01:08:07] They would these guys to bingo long was like the Harlem glow chart is a baseball and

[01:08:12] They would get play baseball and get into adventures and stuff but again

[01:08:18] You know be subject to location

[01:08:21] Racism, but this was a movie a baseball movie with James J. Joe Jones

[01:08:25] Billy D Williams Richard prior

[01:08:29] Stan Shaw and it was just again 70s just so much fun

[01:08:35] There's some dark moments in there too

[01:08:39] Duane Jesse who in everyone knows him as Oda's day from Oda's day in the night

[01:08:44] But he is performance in this movie just you know

[01:08:49] Resonates you know everyone will talk about when he interview they want to do a stay

[01:08:53] You need to talk to Duane Jesse because that guy has done three Richard prior movies

[01:08:56] And this one would bingo long

[01:08:59] He was just absolutely hysterical, but

[01:09:03] James Joe Jones plays a just a rough tough cigar smoke and baseball guy

[01:09:09] Then Billy D at his most handsomeist so that's my

[01:09:13] That's my it is prelando Billy this is you know, lady things to blues really do so he had the mustache and he had the way behavior and

[01:09:21] Getting to get in chill to myself

[01:09:24] Every day, but yeah, feel the dreams

[01:09:28] Bingo long and it's it's not a movie. It's a television movie

[01:09:33] But it's the way the reason resonates with me because it's a sequel to the most watched many series of all time

[01:09:41] It's roots the next generation and he plays Alex Haley the author of roots and the roots in

[01:09:54] And I'm picking this is out of real mention even though it wasn't in the theater because this was a mini series

[01:10:01] Chronically Alex Haley's third for his past and he had to confront a

[01:10:08] The

[01:10:10] A laa former slave owner

[01:10:12] Who was up there in age

[01:10:15] But what it was Ben that was James Earl Jones

[01:10:19] Sitting across a table and

[01:10:22] Having a scene with Marlon Brando

[01:10:26] Who wow James Earl Jones and Marlon Brando playing this old bitter racist

[01:10:32] And he's asking questions about the members of his family

[01:10:36] And you hear Marlon Brando just yeah, you ever hear this song and just goes into this

[01:10:42] Racist tune and talks about you use the word

[01:10:46] Spirit chuckering jiggle and James Earl Jones is just nodding along and because no I didn't hear that song

[01:10:55] My mom probably did and her grandmother probably did he probably sang in a lot

[01:11:00] I'm just trying to find out who they were and why they were here

[01:11:03] I'm not here to talk about how you treated them or how you treat people now

[01:11:08] I'm just here to find my family and just to see those two acting heavy weights share are seen together

[01:11:16] And again this was

[01:11:19] It was 1980 I believe this

[01:11:22] We came out in 77 and it was next generation came out at the extent I want to say 79 but

[01:11:29] James Earl Jones and Marlon Brando on screen

[01:11:33] It's not a movie it came on television. I think it only came on television twice

[01:11:38] But that's that's my honorable mention no, I think and I think that totally counts and

[01:11:43] You know the fact that you had James Earl Jones and Marlon Brando and is seen together and Holly would didn't explode is

[01:11:51] You know you have two power houses like that in

[01:11:55] You know on this on the sharing the screen together

[01:11:59] Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right like on television like it's how did people TV survive that like it's

[01:12:06] It should have done damage to people's televisions at home. No, those are good some some good choices for

[01:12:13] For honorable mentions just to go through mine really quickly

[01:12:18] Coming to America obviously which we we discussed a little bit already didn't make my top five but you know was

[01:12:26] Tying off barely didn't make my top five

[01:12:30] I mentioned some of the other Jack Ryan movies clear present danger and the and Patriot games are two other great

[01:12:36] One that he did

[01:12:37] Two movies that haven't been mentioned though that are also at my in my honorable mentions one of them

[01:12:44] I'm almost guaranteed you possibly have heard of but most of the listeners out there probably never heard of this movie

[01:12:52] But the first one is Conan the barbarian

[01:12:55] Yes, I saw it a theater

[01:12:57] Thoughts to do a man like he

[01:13:00] What's like seeing we've seen

[01:13:03] James Earl Jones play these iconic roles as heroes and and inspirational characters

[01:13:09] So it was it was great to see him play a villain this role. Yeah other than obviously Darth Vader this was

[01:13:17] This was well not this was after Empire but I think before Jedi it was 85

[01:13:23] 84 I'm sorry 84

[01:13:25] Was Conan 84 okay, yeah

[01:13:28] Well, no cuz well then it had to have been after Jedi because Jedi was 83

[01:13:32] Let me see

[01:13:34] I remember this for yeah, I remember seeing I'm you know what I saw in a high school they were 82

[01:13:41] Yeah, yeah, I just looked it's 82

[01:13:43] Is it okay? Yeah, yeah

[01:13:45] We Empire and Jedi

[01:13:47] Yes, let's you know but yeah like false adun was just another great role that didn't make my top five

[01:13:54] But it's still iconic enough and it had to be made and I had to be in my honorable mentions

[01:13:58] He turned into a snake

[01:14:01] Folks

[01:14:01] Things are going to turn into a snake

[01:14:04] I saw this in the theater and I might I was watching like that because I didn't know what's gonna happen

[01:14:09] And the special effects were still primitive back then now when you see him his face just just elongate and he turns into a

[01:14:17] Snake, but yes

[01:14:18] Great yeah, I don't mention yes

[01:14:21] And the other one but the last of my honorable mentions the one that is probably the most out there

[01:14:26] But I just remember seeing this movie

[01:14:28] When I was younger I have not seen this movie probably since I was 11 12 years old so

[01:14:36] I could almost guarantee you at most likely does not hold up one bit

[01:14:41] Because I remember watching it when I was like nine or 10

[01:14:47] It's a movie with Nick Nalti and Martin Short

[01:14:52] Three for you to this

[01:14:57] Perfect

[01:14:58] It's it's a it's a I mean, it's the typical

[01:15:01] 80s comedy

[01:15:03] You know Nick Nalti is a reformed bank robber and Martin Short at the it just so happens. It's like wrong place at wrong time for Nick Nalti

[01:15:12] Because he's in a bank and

[01:15:15] Martin Short is this like so desperate that he comes in and robs the bank

[01:15:19] tries to rob the bank and

[01:15:22] Takes Nick Nalti hostage but all of like law enforcement including James O'Jones and Allen Rock

[01:15:30] They think three known it together because he's a former bank robber and just like

[01:15:36] Yeah, what do you want, Guggen and Nick Nalti nothing? I'm the hostage

[01:15:41] Cutters shit. What do you want?

[01:15:42] That don't want anything

[01:15:44] I'm so glad new if anybody knew of this movie

[01:15:48] It would be you

[01:15:49] Ben I rented that film rented on VHS multiple times

[01:15:56] Because they wanted other people to see this film because I loved it so much. Yeah, yeah

[01:16:01] Again, I haven't seen it since I was like I probably like 11 12 years old

[01:16:07] But I'm almost curious to try and find it to see if it holds up

[01:16:12] Yeah, I the thing I don't think it I

[01:16:19] Was you know, buddy comedy and because it wasn't really anything that too inflammatory about it that

[01:16:26] You know that when stand the test of time

[01:16:29] It was just a gal like you said wrong place wrong time a bosh bank robbery

[01:16:34] You must have taken a hostage so he takes the biggest guy in the in the bank

[01:16:38] You'll see first where there's a pick somebody else

[01:16:43] Yeah

[01:16:44] The physical comedy of Martin Short is what makes his film that's why I think it's okay

[01:16:49] 100% I mean, I think I remember the cover of the movie like I think like the VHS cover of the movie was Nick Nalty holding Martin Short

[01:16:58] And a little girl

[01:17:00] This time yeah, so that was yeah, that was real

[01:17:04] I'm so glad you knew what movie that was

[01:17:07] That's a such a great pick

[01:17:10] I hadn't thought about that moving so long, but yeah, absolutely adore it

[01:17:14] And he was in it. He was the only other beginning and yeah

[01:17:19] And I think at the end, but that was it yeah, it's not a large role for him, but it's just

[01:17:25] I just remembered it so well that I was like yeah, like okay. I'm gonna make sure this is in my honorable mentions

[01:17:32] So um

[01:17:34] Great picks all around both in our top five's and

[01:17:38] Our honorable mentions

[01:17:40] I'm glad that I got to have you on to do this to

[01:17:43] Patriot to James Earl Jones in this and celebrate his work in the way that we did

[01:17:49] But I don't want to let you go before giving you the opportunity to tell people what you have going on because I'm sure

[01:17:55] I mentioned comic book gurus so and every time I turn around and I look at something on social media you are

[01:18:02] In one of your amazing suits hosting some kind of event or

[01:18:08] You know helping someone with their charity thing and like it's one of the reasons why I'm so glad you and I've remained friends all this time because I love seeing you do stuff like that

[01:18:18] So before let you go

[01:18:20] What have you got going on? This is your time to plug away anything that you want to plug

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[01:19:03] February 28th 2025 the last day of black history month. I am doing

[01:19:09] Friday night live Friday night live the Craig Lagons variety show at the return to theater from seven to ten live show

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[01:19:21] Comics I have a singer

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[01:19:39] Friday night live the Craig Lagons variety hour

[01:19:43] This you have no idea how happy I am to hear this

[01:19:49] Because I I want to say to anybody out there so

[01:19:54] My life in 19 inches

[01:19:57] Was your old your your one man show that you did a number of times and I think with the exception of maybe once

[01:20:05] I was in the audience for all of them

[01:20:08] Because I just loved seeing you do this performance and then you did do another variety show at one point too

[01:20:16] That you asked me and I this still bugs me to this day because you asked me to be a part of it as an audience member

[01:20:23] And I flipped it I screwed it up and you being the consummate performer that you are you

[01:20:31] You went with it and you you improv it and you made it work, but I just remember being like sitting back down after that moment being like

[01:20:39] Shit, that's not what I was supposed to say

[01:20:41] I screwed it up

[01:20:43] One line

[01:20:46] One line and I screwed it up

[01:20:49] And I think and they to to your credit the reason why I screwed it up was because I knew it was coming

[01:20:56] But I was so engrossed at everything that was happening you had magicians and you had

[01:21:01] Musicians like you had all this great stuff

[01:21:03] I like I was so engrossed in it that when the moment finally came in my brain

[01:21:08] I was like oh shit, it's here like I gotta do this and I just couldn't think of it

[01:21:12] I couldn't think of it properly

[01:21:15] Well then you're all the hook

[01:21:17] Okay

[01:21:17] I just you I want you to play audience member without lines

[01:21:23] Perfect that will be your role

[01:21:26] If

[01:21:28] There were in 28 20 25 folks that of that will be coming up be here before you know it

[01:21:34] But I'll I'll remind you again beforehand okay, because you know me you know I'll be there and

[01:21:41] I wrote it down. It's going on my calendar as soon as we're done recording so I know

[01:21:45] Nothing else gets scheduled for that day

[01:21:49] So that I can make sure I'm free for that

[01:21:52] But no, I'm excited to see you getting back to that and doing something else and it's yeah

[01:21:57] You're great at it and like everybody I've ever seen and talked to who has been in the audience for any of them

[01:22:03] Always raves about it so I'm really excited for you to get back to it

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[01:22:48] I mean to define I say this with all the love in the world

[01:22:51] I don't know if the world could handle another one of you

[01:22:55] So I'm glad there's only one because there should only be one yes and identity is a crime

[01:23:03] It should only be one of me. This is very very true

[01:23:07] Um

[01:23:08] I couldn't think of a better person for me to kick off the new season with for me to talk about James old Jones with and celebrate his works

[01:23:15] Craig, thank you so much for coming on and doing this with me

[01:23:17] Thank you Ben any time you ask I will always be there

[01:23:21] You're one of a kind friend and the only person I can have this much fun with talking about movies and

[01:23:27] Especially three fugitives

[01:23:29] You make life easy

[01:23:31] For for for for for me and for people like me having your friend like you is a reason to wake up in the morning and to know that

[01:23:38] You're loved and appreciate it and someone does the same for you. So thank you. There are anytime anywhere on there for you

[01:23:45] I greatly greatly appreciate that

[01:23:48] To everybody else out there stick around we're gonna go into the post credit with some listener feedback and of course plugs and everything else

[01:23:55] Just a stay tuned

[01:24:02] That brings us to the end of another episode of Will Helm I want to give a big thank you

[01:24:09] To my guest Craig Legans for joining me on this episode to discuss top five favorite James old Jones movies

[01:24:15] You know, this wasn't initially the episode I had planned for the season premiere of

[01:24:21] Will Helm I had already had another episode in mind and scheduled to record and

[01:24:26] That episode has been recorded in is still coming soon and that's top five favorite Tom Hanks movies

[01:24:32] You're gonna catch that win in a couple weeks, but you know right before

[01:24:36] We started recording right before the announcement of the new season and the planning of the new season

[01:24:41] We got the sadness that James old Jones had died so I wanted to put the word out and I figured what better way to kind of

[01:24:50] Patribute and celebrate the works of James old Jones as we did in this episode then to make it the season premiere

[01:24:56] So thankfully Craig stepped up

[01:24:58] Volunteered came on can't really think of anybody better to have done this episode because he

[01:25:05] Really gave some great suggestions in his top five for movies that I myself need to check out

[01:25:10] So hopefully you guys out there listening

[01:25:12] You hear these suggestions and you'll want to check some of them out too if they're ones you've never seen so

[01:25:18] Thank you once again to Craig LeGons for coming on and

[01:25:22] Being a great guest as he always is and always will be the next couple times that we have him on because

[01:25:28] This isn't the last time Craig has been on make sure you check out Craig's podcast

[01:25:33] Come book gurus with him and rockstar Rob and Steve Morrison and staff there other co-hosts

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[01:25:40] podcasters about comic books

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[01:25:46] podcast listen to comic book gurus just find it wherever you find podcasts and you'll be able to

[01:25:52] Listen to some great content and as he mentioned they're on YouTube now, which is great

[01:25:55] You can watch video versions of the of the podcast

[01:25:59] But that takes it into some listener feedback which I always do in this this portion of the podcast and you guys didn't disappoint

[01:26:09] You guys left me some great feedback on social media

[01:26:12] Let's dive into some of that now. I put the word out

[01:26:16] I said, you know we were doing top five favorite Jamesville Jones movies what were some of your favorites and why

[01:26:22] So here we go starting first with Jennifer Kennedy

[01:26:25] She says not a movie but his episode on the big bang theory is just the best

[01:26:31] Him and Sheldon in the steam room with a smiley face emoji

[01:26:35] I mentioned that during the during our

[01:26:38] discussion of this that whole episode with him

[01:26:42] On the big bang theory is just one of the best episodes of the series him and the steam room sheldon first running into him

[01:26:50] knocking on Carrie Fisher's door and redoing ding-dong ditch to carry Fisher is one of the best elements of that episode

[01:26:57] Mainly because if you don't know this already if you're a big bang theory fan you've seen this episode

[01:27:03] And you don't know this already

[01:27:06] Believe it or not that was actually the first time that Jamesville Jones and Carrie

[01:27:11] Fisher had ever met

[01:27:13] Because Jamesville Jones being a part of Star Wars was just the voice. He was in a studio

[01:27:17] He was never on set

[01:27:19] So all of the movies that they had done together

[01:27:22] They had never met until they did the big bang theory which I think is just a fun little

[01:27:28] Little story so if you

[01:27:30] If you didn't know that now you do

[01:27:33] Megan Dively Leeman

[01:27:35] Says move-asa should not be overlooked

[01:27:37] He gave a gravity to the film the perfect voice casting for the role was an overlook by me was in my top five so

[01:27:45] Yep move-asa the the truking

[01:27:49] Kelly Williams Palombai says I loved him in field of dreams which is also my favorite movie

[01:27:56] He's a big reason it's my favorite movie

[01:27:58] Something about the way he delivers the line you said your finger was a gun that cracks me up every time

[01:28:04] His walking to the corn was a scene that I knew a time would come when that scene would hit harder

[01:28:11] So yeah feel the dreams as you've heard my number one in my top five so I feel you on that one Kelly every single bit

[01:28:20] Gillian Moreau says watching field of dreams as I type this

[01:28:24] Such an iconic presence in whatever he did and a voice like no other

[01:28:29] Mufasa is James Earl Jones that role could not have been cast any more perfectly and will always stand out stand out to me as

[01:28:38] My favorite role he did

[01:28:41] Again two more in my top five we're on a roll here guys

[01:28:46] Saragir I loved him in field of dreams and the sandlot

[01:28:50] He just brought such a wholesome vibe to both movies

[01:28:53] I have a special attachment to field of dreams because my grandfather loved that movie

[01:28:57] That's a great attachment to have I love that Sarah

[01:29:01] Again field of dreams in the sandlot both in my top five as well and

[01:29:06] Yeah, there's a number of people I know who have connections to field of dreams when it comes to family or

[01:29:12] Special moments sharing special moments with special people about watching that movie together

[01:29:16] Same thing can go with the sandlot too if you're watching that with with kids

[01:29:19] You know your kids and you're showing that movie too

[01:29:23] To them for the first time

[01:29:24] After you watch it as a kid, it's it really really does create that that special connection

[01:29:32] Joe Graziano says Star Wars aside my favorite is th also doom from cone in the barbarian and the coach from best of the best

[01:29:41] Ooh best of the best was one that wasn't mentioned from either Craig or myself

[01:29:45] So that was a good one to throw in there Joe. Thank you for that one and Star Wars. I mean come on

[01:29:50] You got to you got to step up like Craig and I did you got to choose a favorite

[01:29:54] You can't just say the entire blanket Star Wars franchise. There's too many there

[01:29:59] That becomes more than just a top five that becomes all of your top five and then some so

[01:30:04] Step it up you got to choose one we did we both chose Empire so fair enough

[01:30:10] Randall John Moir says the great white hope and amazing acting performance well before he was flamis for his voice

[01:30:17] And Craig agreed with you there Randy he

[01:30:20] Had the great white hope as his to and you know that was a movie I I have never seen so it is on my list for movies of that along with Claudine

[01:30:30] Our movies that are on my list now to make sure I watch

[01:30:34] To personally celebrate James O'Jones's work and watching them as well

[01:30:40] And last but not least from Billy Taylor. I obviously love James O'Jones and Star Wars love Tim as Moofasa in the Lion King

[01:30:48] Love Tim in the Sandlot. I love Tim as the King of Zimunda in coming to America

[01:30:53] I'm a big Superman guy so another role that stands out to me is when he played Franklin Stern

[01:30:58] In Lowe's and Clark the new adventures a Superman and he saved the daily planet

[01:31:04] Rest in peace Mr. Jones you've left a legacy that will live on for generations to come I

[01:31:11] Completely forgot that he does show up in Lowe's and Clark the new adventures a Superman

[01:31:16] I

[01:31:18] Love that show when it was on because I myself am a big Superman fan

[01:31:23] I've kind of lost this show is kind of lost a little bit of its luster to me because of

[01:31:30] How can I put this gingerly certain elements

[01:31:34] Certain actions of certain actors who have or in that show not to mention the fact that Tyler Hawkelin is kind of

[01:31:41] I also mentioned in I'll no I mentioned him in the Tom Hanks episode. Sorry

[01:31:46] Which is coming

[01:31:49] Sorry recorded before I recorded this so I confused for a minute, but

[01:31:53] Tyler Hawkelin has stepped up as an amazing Superman and and Superman and Lowe has kind of overshadowed

[01:32:01] Lowe said Clark

[01:32:04] Loose and Clark. So

[01:32:05] Sorry about that

[01:32:07] I'm sure Billy you understand, but

[01:32:09] Thank you so much to everybody who submitted feedback

[01:32:13] I always love hearing it

[01:32:15] If you want to make sure you can leave feedback for future episodes

[01:32:19] Easiest way to do that is go to the website and you'll find a link there for the Facebook group

[01:32:25] It's called Wilhelm discussion and I always post in there what episodes are coming up and give you the opportunity to leave that

[01:32:32] Or if you are not on Facebook and you just want to leave it directly you can always email me

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[01:32:39] Wilhelmpodcast.com the next episode as I mentioned

[01:32:42] That you can start leaving feedback is Tom Hanks

[01:32:45] It's gonna be top five favorite Tom Hanks episodes. However that is not the next episode of Wilhelm

[01:32:51] You're going to hear the next episode of Wilhelm that you're going to hear is the audio of my panel with Ross Mark Juan from

[01:32:58] Contrapalist New Jersey earlier this year

[01:33:01] I've been a fan of Ross's for a while if you're not aware of him he

[01:33:05] Was on the walking dead. He is the per voice of Professor X in the new Xman 97 series

[01:33:10] He was a red skull in Avengers in Fendiwar and Avengers endgame

[01:33:16] He he's a great impressionist. He's done a ton of other work

[01:33:20] I've been a big fan of his for a while and I've never had the opportunity to moderate a panel with him one on one

[01:33:27] And I finally got that opportunity we had an absolute blast

[01:33:31] So I have a bunch of panel audio from panels. I've done over the past year, so

[01:33:35] Then I'm gonna be releasing over the course of this season and

[01:33:39] That one is just one of my favorite so it's coming next the next week. You're gonna hear my panel audio with Ross Mark Juan

[01:33:45] Which I'm really excited for you guys to hear but

[01:33:48] Two weeks from now you will get top five favorite Tom Hanks

[01:33:53] Movies with Alex Kruger who's gonna be returning

[01:33:56] From the episode he did a couple months ago, which was our top five favorite baseball movies

[01:34:00] So I was really excited to get Alex back on it's a hell of an episode

[01:34:04] You guys are really really gonna enjoy that and you'll have the opportunity to leave feedback for that as well

[01:34:10] Before I wrap things up again just a quick reminder that you can find Wilhelm on all major podcast platforms

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[01:35:07] Also the exciting news I've been talking about for a while Wilhelm will finally be launching a patreon very soon

[01:35:13] It's gonna be coming within the next month or two

[01:35:15] Just finalizing a lot of things. I'm trying not to kind of like

[01:35:19] I know a lot of patreon accounts have like this level and this level and this level and this level and this level

[01:35:24] And so many levels

[01:35:26] I'm trying to simplify it as best as I can because I'm not trying to make money

[01:35:31] off of the patreon the patreon is simply

[01:35:35] podcasting like this cost money. So I'm basically just trying to keep it simple and help

[01:35:43] You know

[01:35:44] entice you guys to be a part of it and be a part of the show and be a part of the patreon to help me support the show

[01:35:50] The patreon is simply too offset costs. I'm not looking to become rich from it because

[01:35:55] It's beyond us nobody comes rich from patreon

[01:35:59] Everybody I know who has a patreon puts patreon money

[01:36:03] Put those contributions back into the show and that's exactly what I plan to do as well

[01:36:08] So the patreon will be launching very soon if you want to help support the show and get access to some exclusive content

[01:36:15] Keep an eye out for that that is the way to do it

[01:36:18] Last but not least if you're attending any conventions that I'm gonna be at

[01:36:22] Please make sure to find me and come say hi

[01:36:26] I'm gonna be at Teracon in Marble, Massachusetts

[01:36:29] And to this month from September 27th through the 29th and

[01:36:34] I'm gonna be at Rhode Island Comic-Con in Providence, Rhode Island from November 1st through November 3rd

[01:36:40] These are two shows that I'm really looking forward to

[01:36:44] Teracon because I'm a huge horror fan so to have a horror themed event

[01:36:48] Really excited for that plus I'm gonna be on stage

[01:36:51] hosting a reunion of the killer clowns from outer space cast which I adore that movie

[01:36:57] As well as doing a one-on-one with Zach Galligan who if you don't know who that is he played Billy in the

[01:37:03] Gremlin's films as well as some other roles

[01:37:05] So really looking forward to both of those panels at Teracon and I have some big

[01:37:12] Big things happening at Rhode Island Comic-Con

[01:37:16] In Providence November 1st through the 3rd. I

[01:37:19] I will be announcing those things very very soon and when I say big

[01:37:24] I mean this quite possibly might be the biggest thing I have ever done

[01:37:33] So some of you already know what it is some of you who are

[01:37:37] Listeners and friends already know what it is

[01:37:40] But I will be announcing that very very soon maybe within the next two weeks actually with the Tom Hanks episode

[01:37:46] We'll find out but um yeah if you're at any events

[01:37:50] Matt whether it's this year next year in the future please stop by say hi

[01:37:55] I love meeting people that way but I think that is gonna wrap it up for this episode of

[01:38:01] Well-home thank you once again to Craig Lagons for coming on and talking about James O'Jones episodes

[01:38:05] Make sure you follow his podcast comic book gurus anywhere comment anywhere podcast can be found

[01:38:11] And more details on his his variety show that's coming soon. He broke the news with us

[01:38:17] When they say us I mean me and you great listeners he broke the news with us on that which is great

[01:38:23] I'm so excited for that so if you're in the Philadelphia area

[01:38:26] Oh man that's gonna be exciting next February February 28th

[01:38:31] But we'll I'll make sure to share more details on that as it gets closer

[01:38:34] To help support Craig and that too

[01:38:37] Thank you again everybody for tuning in. Thank you for listening subscribing all that you guys do but until next time

[01:38:43] I will see you guys on another episode of Wilhelm

[01:38:46] Take care