MOVIE SWAP: Baby Driver / Zodiac

[00:00:00] How was Killian Speech? Killian Speech was great!

[00:00:28] I know that he said that he wanted to dedicate his award to the peacemakers because I did read that.

[00:00:36] I don't remember exactly what he said.

[00:00:39] Well, that was like one of the little quotes in the little pop-up video.

[00:00:44] It was like Apple was texting me all night but they were just doing like,

[00:00:50] where is it? I wish that they had it.

[00:00:53] It would be a different color in the banner if it was a major award.

[00:00:57] Oh, it was gold.

[00:00:59] And then they would do like one little quote of their speech after that.

[00:01:03] Like it would just pop up and then after that they would be like, let's break for a commercial.

[00:01:08] One of them was we just came back and there's a lot of energy on stage.

[00:01:16] Let me tell you, I know that you're not as hyped on that movie as most other people are but that performance was fun.

[00:01:25] Well, because Ryan Gosling gives everything he does 150%.

[00:01:30] And I think it was like everybody right? It wasn't Simulu there too.

[00:01:34] Simulu was in it. Shootigatwa was there. He had a bunch of the other hands there.

[00:01:39] Was Michael Sarah there?

[00:01:41] I didn't see Michael Sarah. He should have been there.

[00:01:45] I forgot about that.

[00:01:46] Was Alan just like, was weird Barbie there?

[00:01:49] Well, Kate McKinney presented as weird Barbie.

[00:01:53] No, not as weird Barbie because she was my favorite character.

[00:01:57] No, it was her and America for error presented together.

[00:02:01] Oh, okay.

[00:02:02] And they were pretty fun. Kate adore Kate McKinney.

[00:02:05] And she was pretty funny during her presenting too.

[00:02:08] She's always funny.

[00:02:10] She's so funny.

[00:02:11] She's always funny.

[00:02:15] Yeah, yeah, I just yeah.

[00:02:19] She was just there were a lot of great moments from the Oscars.

[00:02:23] Yeah, I have to look, I want to look at when we're done.

[00:02:27] I want to see or yeah, I want to see Killian speech for sure.

[00:02:31] Okay.

[00:02:32] Just because I love him and he never ever, ever, ever like gives interviews or anything like he hates all this press.

[00:02:39] So I think that he like goes there, but he doesn't really talk.

[00:02:44] Yeah.

[00:02:45] So listen to him.

[00:02:47] Danny DeVito and Arnold Schwarzenegger came out and presented together.

[00:02:51] For what?

[00:02:52] They were teasing they were teasing this reunion.

[00:02:56] That was supposed to happen in no like like no, they were just teasing like a reunion of two characters.

[00:03:02] And they kept showing them from behind and everybody was trying to figure out who they were.

[00:03:06] And then when they came out, it was like, oh, okay.

[00:03:09] That makes a lot of sense because now we can see it.

[00:03:14] And they said there and they were like we're presenting together for.

[00:03:18] For a very obvious reason because they were in the movie twins together.

[00:03:22] And he's like, well, like we're out here.

[00:03:24] They put us together for a very obvious reason.

[00:03:27] We both got our asses kicked by Batman.

[00:03:31] And Davido turns to Schwarzenegger and he's like, how did he defeat you?

[00:03:38] And he's like, he defeated me by exploiting the one thing that I cared about the most.

[00:03:45] He's like, I played Mr. Freeze and he exploited me by the one thing I cared about the most.

[00:03:49] Or that hurt me the most.

[00:03:51] And Davido's like, he's like, no, love.

[00:03:55] Because he was doing it for his wife in the movie.

[00:03:58] And then Davido goes, he threw me through a damn window.

[00:04:05] And then he turns and he's like, and that Keaton is sitting in the front row who played Batman for the movie.

[00:04:14] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's my favorite Batman.

[00:04:16] Yeah.

[00:04:17] And then so they turned to Keaton and the camera turned to Keaton and Keaton just has like this stern Bruce Wayne look on his face all the time.

[00:04:26] It was pretty awesome.

[00:04:28] I would love it if they did something with all the Batman's one year.

[00:04:33] But Christian Bale is just such a stick in the mud he'd never, he'd never do anything.

[00:04:39] Well, I did like it was something new that they had done this year for present for best actor actress supporting and supporting actress.

[00:04:47] It wasn't one presenter. It was five and they were all former winners.

[00:04:52] I thought that was such a good idea.

[00:04:54] And so I like it was so great seeing Kehue Kwan back up there again, seeing Brendan Frazier from last year, seeing Michelle.

[00:05:01] Like they were all yeah, and then each one of them gave like the little blurb about one of the nominees.

[00:05:07] Yeah, that's so Stan Rockwell was the one that did the blurb for Robert Downey.

[00:05:11] Oh, that's perfect.

[00:05:13] So Iron Man got introduced by Justin Hammer.

[00:05:16] I love it.

[00:05:17] Which is great.

[00:05:18] See he to me, he's day void people brox.

[00:05:22] Well, of course.

[00:05:24] Well, and well, see that's him for you.

[00:05:27] For me, he's got his guy, Flagman from Galaxy Quest.

[00:05:32] Oh my gosh, he wasn't Galaxy Quest.

[00:05:34] Yes, he was.

[00:05:35] He was also in Charlie's Angels.

[00:05:37] Yes, he was.

[00:05:38] I love Sam Rockwell.

[00:05:39] I do too.

[00:05:40] I don't think they need to watch our guy all cool stuff.

[00:05:44] You need to watch our guy.

[00:05:45] All right, all right.

[00:05:46] He's a he's a lead in our guy.

[00:05:49] It's too new to give it to you for swap.

[00:05:51] You should just watch it.

[00:05:53] I know, yeah, I just.

[00:05:55] I want to go back to the theaters if I want to go back to the theaters,

[00:05:58] it's going to be to go see Dune again.

[00:06:03] Well, you don't have to do it because our guy was on streaming.

[00:06:06] But oh, perfect.

[00:06:08] Perfect.

[00:06:09] But I just want.

[00:06:12] I want the theaters to re-release the first Dune and pair it with the second Dune.

[00:06:17] And give me like 30 minutes in between each movie to pee,

[00:06:21] to order some food, to get comfy,

[00:06:24] like make a whole thing of it.

[00:06:27] Give it time.

[00:06:28] They'll do it.

[00:06:29] But like because Dune didn't get a fair shake in the theaters

[00:06:32] because it was COVID, it came out in 2020 and all the theaters were closed.

[00:06:37] So I feel like there's a huge chunk of us

[00:06:40] and I'm included in that that really want to see it in a theater.

[00:06:46] Like I said, give it time.

[00:06:48] They'll do it.

[00:06:49] I have, I have no doubt in my mind at some point they'll do it.

[00:06:54] Okay, I'll believe you.

[00:06:58] But speaking of the Oscars, yeah, the movie you gave me had a number of nominees from this year.

[00:07:05] I know.

[00:07:06] I know.

[00:07:07] One of them's a winner.

[00:07:10] Yeah, one of them is a winner with Robert Downey.

[00:07:13] Yeah, so you're talking about Zodiac.

[00:07:18] Talking about Zodiac.

[00:07:19] That's the movie that you gave me.

[00:07:21] Do you like it?

[00:07:22] All right.

[00:07:23] So yeah, let's just dive into it then.

[00:07:24] I'll go first with welcome to swap.

[00:07:26] Here we go.

[00:07:27] Yeah.

[00:07:28] Every episode we do of this podcast just starts with banter.

[00:07:32] We don't do any intro for this podcast.

[00:07:35] We keep it as casual as possible.

[00:07:37] People listen and know what they're listening to.

[00:07:40] What was really funny to me though is that we started this because we talked so much before the revisited.

[00:07:47] And now we're doing it again with this one.

[00:07:52] But no, so you gave me Zodiac from 2007 directed by David Fincher with Jake Gyllenhaal, Robert Downey Jr.

[00:08:00] Mark Ruffalo, Brian Cox, Anthony Edwards.

[00:08:03] This this movie had a cast.

[00:08:06] Yeah.

[00:08:07] Charles, even the smaller parts.

[00:08:10] Yeah, even the smaller parts, like even like little ones.

[00:08:13] We're still like character actors, like well known character actors.

[00:08:17] Yeah, John Carol Lynch who played Arthur Lealland.

[00:08:20] John Terry as I mentioned, Christian Shepherd from Lost played John Terry played Charles.

[00:08:27] Durant Mulroney, June Diane Raphael, Raphael Donald Logue, who I've moderated for Donald Logue before.

[00:08:35] Oh yeah.

[00:08:36] So there's somebody in this movie I've actually met Jill worked his booth.

[00:08:41] I think last year at Rhode Island Comic Con not last year or two years ago.

[00:08:45] Yeah, she was with Brennan Brennan Ralph last year.

[00:08:49] So no, she would know it might have been three years ago because last year.

[00:08:54] Or maybe she had him like nearby or something.

[00:08:57] I feel I maybe I'm mixing it up.

[00:09:02] Maybe because the year before she was with Barry from Friends.

[00:09:08] Yeah.

[00:09:09] Oh my god, why can't I think if I'm friends with them on like we message each other on Instagram.

[00:09:14] Is it not Barry?

[00:09:15] No, his name's not Barry.

[00:09:17] His name is Barry.

[00:09:18] He looks like a Barry.

[00:09:22] He's one of the other euths from my cousin Vinnie.

[00:09:28] You know that?

[00:09:30] I do now.

[00:09:33] Yeah, Mitchell Whitfield.

[00:09:35] He's the other one with.

[00:09:38] Oh my gosh.

[00:09:40] He okay.

[00:09:43] I see it.

[00:09:45] Oh that's crazy.

[00:09:46] Anyways did you like Klotheak?

[00:09:48] So I told you a little bit about this yesterday when we were recording.

[00:09:54] I didn't when we were recording revisited.

[00:09:57] I realized this movie is two hours and 50 minutes long.

[00:10:01] Okay, but I also didn't realize that because I watched it such a long time ago.

[00:10:06] And I remember thing to my I was so engrossed in it that I don't even think I remembered it being long if that makes any sense.

[00:10:16] I did enjoy it.

[00:10:18] I actually really, really enjoyed it.

[00:10:20] I thought I thought Jill and Hall was fantastic.

[00:10:24] I thought I thought Robert Downey, man, come on.

[00:10:28] Like there's a there's a reason why he went.

[00:10:30] He finally won an Oscar this year.

[00:10:32] He's so good.

[00:10:33] Hey, so good.

[00:10:34] I'll tell you who I really liked was Ruffalo.

[00:10:36] Yeah, Ruffalo is amazing.

[00:10:38] Ruffalo is fantastic in this movie.

[00:10:41] So I just wanted to say before you get into it, I wrote down because I had this like I was laughing to myself the other night.

[00:10:47] I said Iron Man and Mysterio team up to crack the case Hulk and Goose are on the trail.

[00:10:54] I thought about that too.

[00:10:56] I was like there are three Marvel people leading this movie.

[00:10:59] It's crazy.

[00:11:00] I know well, you know this and I've looked at the timeline.

[00:11:03] This is the last movie Downey did before becoming Tony Star was 07.

[00:11:08] And then he was Tony Stark in oh nine.

[00:11:11] Oh wait.

[00:11:12] Okay.

[00:11:13] Either oh wait or oh nine.

[00:11:15] So he was he was doing his indie film before he became a big action star.

[00:11:20] I guess that's yeah, I guess that's the way to put it.

[00:11:23] But yes, this little indie this little star studded jam packed David Fincher indie film.

[00:11:31] Yeah, he did Zodiac in 2007 then he did a couple smaller things.

[00:11:36] He did lucky you and Charlie Bartlett and then he did Iron Man in 2008.

[00:11:42] Yeah, that was one of the that was I think the first movie second movie who cares.

[00:11:49] That was the first that was one of the first dates that Dave and I had was.

[00:11:56] Tony act no Iron Man.

[00:11:59] It's like Jesus.

[00:12:00] No Iron Man, I'll never forget it because we were watching the movie.

[00:12:06] And I was like wow, that was really good blah blah blah.

[00:12:10] And Dave laid out the entire Marvel plan for me in that theater.

[00:12:17] And he told me what they were hoping to do with the movie Iron Man with the phases and the heroes

[00:12:24] and how they are all going to come together and I remember clear as day this conversation

[00:12:30] that we had with each other and it happened.

[00:12:33] Well, I was only through by the time Iron Man had come out they had planned through the first Avengers movie.

[00:12:40] Yeah, but to me, that's crazy.

[00:12:42] Yeah.

[00:12:43] And I thought well, look how far they've come since right, but I thought that was so fun.

[00:12:47] Oh, what a fun idea.

[00:12:49] I couldn't wait like that's of course, that's what we need.

[00:12:53] I was the same way like I know we're already all so do you act on like Marvel for some reason.

[00:12:58] But yeah, I remember seeing Iron Man in theaters and being like wait a minute.

[00:13:03] So you mean to tell me we're also going to get I would like and after realizing how good Iron Man was.

[00:13:09] Right exactly like going home and realizing so wait, you mean to tell me now we're also going to get a Captain America

[00:13:16] author and a Hulk movie.

[00:13:18] Right.

[00:13:19] Yeah.

[00:13:20] And then they're going to bring them all together.

[00:13:22] Right.

[00:13:23] Like I'm like okay, like this is my glory.

[00:13:25] But only if Iron Man works.

[00:13:29] Well, only if Iron Man works, right?

[00:13:32] And at that time Robert Downey Jr. wasn't Robert Downey Jr.

[00:13:36] That we know today and have Favro took a big chance.

[00:13:40] Huge chance.

[00:13:41] And he had to pitch it to the studio.

[00:13:44] Yeah, this was a huge, this was a like they had to get this movie right.

[00:13:51] And it only shows how good and the point I'm trying to make is it shows how amazing Robert Downey Jr.

[00:14:00] Is.

[00:14:01] I mean, as we record this, he won Best Sporting Actor last night his first win ever.

[00:14:08] And he's been amazing third nomination right first win.

[00:14:13] But he did this movie zodiac right before he was Iron Man proving that and we you just saw it.

[00:14:19] I've seen it.

[00:14:21] It proves what an incredible actor he is.

[00:14:24] Yeah, I mean, I've.

[00:14:26] Because I remember.

[00:14:29] You know, going back to you know, going back even further in his career, like he even kind of jokes about it during his speech.

[00:14:37] When he won the Oscar about like he thanked his entertainment lawyer.

[00:14:41] Yeah.

[00:14:42] I mean, it was a great time for a long time and half the time.

[00:14:45] And the half the time was trying to like keep him at a trouble.

[00:14:50] And I remember going back to the movie Air America with Mel Gibson.

[00:14:56] This is going back.

[00:14:57] God, early 90s.

[00:14:59] I think.

[00:15:01] Mel went to bat for him.

[00:15:04] Like his career was basically over at that point because of drugs and everything else that he all the trouble he was getting into.

[00:15:11] And I'm trying to look and see exactly when it was maybe it's 80s.

[00:15:16] No, it was 1990.

[00:15:18] All he was getting was like these minor roles.

[00:15:22] He wasn't getting any leading roles.

[00:15:24] And then Air America came out and Mel Gibson went to bat for him and said like you.

[00:15:30] I feel like he needs a second chance.

[00:15:33] Yeah.

[00:15:34] He got the lead with Mel and it kind of reinvigorated it after that.

[00:15:39] He did soap dish.

[00:15:41] He was the lead in Chaplin.

[00:15:43] He was so good in Chaplin.

[00:15:45] He's great in Chaplin.

[00:15:47] You know, he was he was in a bunch of really big movies.

[00:15:51] He was in Kiss Kiss Bang Bang wasn't he?

[00:15:53] Yeah, but that was actually right before Zodiac.

[00:15:57] Okay.

[00:15:58] And he was in seven heads in a duffle bag.

[00:16:02] The heads in a duffle bag movie.

[00:16:05] Then you're probably right.

[00:16:07] Do you know what movie I'm talking about?

[00:16:10] I don't see it listed on his thing, so I don't think that's him.

[00:16:14] I could be wrong.

[00:16:17] Let me see.

[00:16:19] Two guys and a girl that has nothing to do with it.

[00:16:22] No, he wasn't in that duffle bag movie.

[00:16:24] Eight heads in a duffle bag.

[00:16:25] I remember what that was.

[00:16:27] That was that was Joe Pesci.

[00:16:31] I am not mixing up Joe Pesci and Robert Downey Jr.

[00:16:36] I'm not saying you are.

[00:16:37] Are you kidding me?

[00:16:38] No, I'm not saying you are.

[00:16:40] But that was a Joe Pesci movie.

[00:16:45] Are you sure?

[00:16:46] Yes.

[00:16:47] Eight heads in a duffle because I remember the poster.

[00:16:50] Eight heads in a duffle bag.

[00:16:51] I'll confirm it right now.

[00:16:53] Eight heads in a duffle bag was...

[00:16:57] Come on.

[00:16:58] Load faster.

[00:16:59] It was not.

[00:17:00] It was.

[00:17:01] I'm looking at it right now.

[00:17:02] No.

[00:17:03] It was Joe.

[00:17:04] It was Joe Pesci, Christy Swanson, George Hamilton, Andy Como and definitely not Robert Downey Jr.

[00:17:16] David Spade was in that movie too, apparently.

[00:17:22] No, but I mean, you know, like again, not just focusing on Downey for that for Zodiac.

[00:17:30] I guess that I was really...

[00:17:33] I really loved Ruffalo in that movie as the inspector that was working with Jake Chillinghall's

[00:17:42] character.

[00:17:43] Yeah.

[00:17:44] And the fun part was, like, I know it was based on a true story.

[00:17:46] I know the background of the Zodiac killer.

[00:17:49] Like, I know it's still to this day.

[00:17:50] Yeah.

[00:17:51] One of the biggest unsolved.

[00:17:52] Yeah.

[00:17:53] It's like Jack the Whipper.

[00:17:54] Yeah.

[00:17:55] Like, I know.

[00:17:57] But the whole time I'm so gross in this movie, I'm like, oh, I hope they catch him.

[00:18:01] Right.

[00:18:02] I know.

[00:18:03] And Jake Chillinghall, let's not forget about him because I think he is...

[00:18:07] This is one of his better roles.

[00:18:10] He is just so determined and follows him so doggedly that you really believe that he's going to catch

[00:18:19] him and then that ending.

[00:18:21] I don't know.

[00:18:22] Like, that ending sent chills up and down my spine.

[00:18:26] Like, it was creepy when he sees him in the hardware store.

[00:18:30] No one is in the basement.

[00:18:31] Oh yeah.

[00:18:32] Yeah, yeah.

[00:18:33] Okay.

[00:18:34] Well, that wasn't the ending.

[00:18:36] That was close to the end but that wasn't the...

[00:18:37] Oh, well, that's up.

[00:18:39] I think that maybe I blacked out after that because that was just really creepy.

[00:18:44] Because the ending takes place a number of years later when Jill and Hall walks into the

[00:18:47] hardware store and sees Arthur Le Allen work in the counter.

[00:18:51] Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:18:52] And they recognize each other.

[00:18:55] Oh gosh.

[00:18:56] You know, like, movies that are based on true stories, when you look into it too...

[00:19:02] What's the other movie?

[00:19:03] Shit, there was a movie that Johnny Depp did where he played an infamous mobster.

[00:19:10] Oh.

[00:19:11] It's Black Something.

[00:19:13] Yep.

[00:19:14] It was good.

[00:19:15] I love that.

[00:19:16] He's so good and it got me...

[00:19:18] He...

[00:19:19] He engrossed.

[00:19:20] In like true crime?

[00:19:22] In that character.

[00:19:24] Oh, man.

[00:19:25] And then I wasn't too familiar with that character as I was with the Zodiac Killer and

[00:19:30] then I went back and read into Black Mass.

[00:19:37] That's it.

[00:19:38] He played Whitey Bolter.

[00:19:41] That was so good.

[00:19:42] I love that movie.

[00:19:43] It was a great movie.

[00:19:44] It was a great role for Johnny Depp.

[00:19:45] And then I remember going home and looking into that character.

[00:19:47] I'm like, wait a minute.

[00:19:49] This dude's still at large because he was at the time.

[00:19:53] He's since been caught and I think has since died.

[00:19:55] But at the time that that movie came out, Whitey Bolter was still a fugitive.

[00:20:02] And I remember like that freaking me out.

[00:20:05] Like this dude is still out there.

[00:20:09] And he's probably watching a movie about himself.

[00:20:11] Yeah.

[00:20:12] Oh, yeah, totally.

[00:20:13] He was probably the secret consultant.

[00:20:17] Maybe.

[00:20:18] But going back to Zodiac, like yeah, I was so engrossed in it and maybe it's because

[00:20:25] I've been watching a lot of CSI.

[00:20:28] But I was like, oh, I really hope they catch this guy by the end.

[00:20:31] Never.

[00:20:32] Like realizing I know the true story that they never caught him.

[00:20:37] Yeah, but you know, he probably did.

[00:20:42] Oh, I, but from if the movie did a great job in convincing me that it was Arthur Lee Allen.

[00:20:49] Right.

[00:20:51] And I think there's even, I think the movie sets it up in like the whole text at the

[00:20:57] end that they were actually ready to actually pursue charges against him for being the Zodiac

[00:21:04] Killer and that he died like a week before they were going to do it.

[00:21:10] You know,

[00:21:11] this dude got away with it.

[00:21:12] Of course he did.

[00:21:15] And what stinks is that it's just if he died, where are his trophies?

[00:21:22] Well, he didn't take trophies, maybe.

[00:21:25] Well, that's what I'm saying like he has to have something.

[00:21:29] He has to have something, right?

[00:21:31] He's not just.

[00:21:34] Kill him and walk away.

[00:21:38] Yes, I have something that makes him remember, right?

[00:21:41] I mean, isn't that like the whole serial killer stick?

[00:21:44] Well, he he had his theatrics by leaving the notes and the colors and letters

[00:21:52] and calling and right.

[00:21:53] Right.

[00:21:54] That was his signature.

[00:21:55] That was what made him so famous.

[00:21:57] That's and that's where he got his high because he only killed five people that they know

[00:22:03] of.

[00:22:04] Right.

[00:22:05] I think he's taken credit for others, but that I think they've since proved that he didn't

[00:22:11] do the ones that he other ones that he took credit for.

[00:22:14] They know for sure there were five.

[00:22:16] Yeah.

[00:22:17] Okay.

[00:22:18] But yeah, his trophies were in the form of the codes that he left behind and playing with

[00:22:28] everybody like it was a game.

[00:22:30] Yeah.

[00:22:31] Because they're all crazy.

[00:22:32] Yeah.

[00:22:33] Every single one of them.

[00:22:34] It was it was really good.

[00:22:36] There were a lot of familiar faces in the movie.

[00:22:38] Did it feel like it was almost three hours?

[00:22:40] No, they really didn't.

[00:22:42] Okay.

[00:22:43] All right.

[00:22:44] So my memory of it is okay.

[00:22:45] Yeah.

[00:22:46] If you didn't know that it was two hours and 46 minutes, would you like look back and

[00:22:52] be like this is a long movie.

[00:22:54] If I didn't look at the running time, I probably would have forgotten by the end.

[00:22:58] It's very similar to Oppenheimer.

[00:23:01] Like Oppenheimer is three hours and it does not feel like it's three hours.

[00:23:04] No, I wanted half an hour more.

[00:23:06] Yeah.

[00:23:07] It didn't feel like three hours at all.

[00:23:09] I didn't see that movie again.

[00:23:10] I do too.

[00:23:11] I always think about it last night.

[00:23:12] I'm like, I need to rewatch Oppenheimer.

[00:23:15] I love how Robert Downey Jr's story ends.

[00:23:21] Oh in the movie.

[00:23:23] Yeah.

[00:23:24] The Senator's story.

[00:23:25] Right.

[00:23:26] Yes.

[00:23:27] There's just, I mean, I know we're going back to other movies from Robert.

[00:23:31] Sorry.

[00:23:32] Well, last night too.

[00:23:34] So it's kind of hard.

[00:23:35] Yeah.

[00:23:36] But you know, at the same time, there are so many great stories that came out of Oppenheimer

[00:23:41] like the fact that there's so many interesting behind-the-scenes things from that.

[00:23:45] From Downey saying during his speech that it was a movie he needed, not Christopher

[00:23:51] Nolan, but then there's Matt Damon's story where he was actually ready to take a break

[00:23:56] and said the only way he wouldn't is if he got a call from Christopher Nolan and then

[00:24:00] he got a call from Christopher Nolan.

[00:24:02] Killian Murphy was shocked, shocked when Christopher Nolan wanted him to play Oppenheimer.

[00:24:09] Well, and then Ben Kingsley.

[00:24:10] He had never been a lead before.

[00:24:12] And Ben Kingsley said during his presentation of it is that he took the role side unseen.

[00:24:18] He never read the script before taking the role.

[00:24:21] That's insane.

[00:24:22] How about that?

[00:24:23] How about that?

[00:24:24] Well, see.

[00:24:25] Yeah.

[00:24:27] Well, how about that?

[00:24:28] I just I learned last night with my, you know, pop-up, Apple video that when they won cinematography

[00:24:36] that they had to invent the black and white film to film an iMacs because it didn't exist.

[00:24:43] Well, and have you seen pictures of the real?

[00:24:46] No.

[00:24:47] The pictures of the iMacs real.

[00:24:49] It's ridiculous.

[00:24:50] I'll see if I can find them.

[00:24:53] They actually had to install new projectors in a number of iMacs theaters just to show

[00:24:59] Oppenheimer because of the weight of the real.

[00:25:05] Like the film, the film reel was miles long.

[00:25:10] That's amazing.

[00:25:11] It's crazy.

[00:25:13] That movie was an opus.

[00:25:16] But I mean, even the fact that there was no CGI in that movie.

[00:25:20] It's all practical effects.

[00:25:21] I know.

[00:25:23] The movie is spectacular.

[00:25:26] It was, I mean, the minute I saw it, the minute you saw it, the minute we saw it, we

[00:25:30] were like, we're done.

[00:25:31] That's it.

[00:25:32] That's the picture.

[00:25:33] I want to go home.

[00:25:34] I went to the screening two weeks before it came out and I saw it on iMacs and I remember

[00:25:39] walking out of that theater and being like, oh, this is sweeping the Oscars.

[00:25:43] No, there's no, yeah.

[00:25:44] I mean, you want, if you've seen that movie, you walk out and you're like, that was

[00:25:47] it?

[00:25:48] Yeah.

[00:25:49] And I'm going to say, I'm hit or miss on Nolan.

[00:25:52] This hit and Nolan's going to win his first Oscar.

[00:25:55] It was yeah.

[00:25:56] I told you the same thing.

[00:25:57] I remember having this conversation.

[00:25:59] I was like, yeah, and he's going to win the Oscar.

[00:26:01] When we did our openheimer podcast.

[00:26:04] Yep.

[00:26:05] We're still talking about it because we love it.

[00:26:08] It's that good.

[00:26:09] Well, I'm glad that you got to watch Zodiac because I really do.

[00:26:12] I really do love that movie.

[00:26:14] And it was actually Jake Gyllenhaal that made me want to see the movie because I was watching

[00:26:19] him, was watching him in an interview for something and just how excited he was about

[00:26:26] this movie.

[00:26:28] And hearing him just talk about it, I made, maybe we want to see it.

[00:26:33] Gyllenhaal's an actor who kind of wasn't on my radar until later.

[00:26:39] Like I mean, he did a bunch of things, you know, like Donnie Darko and Bubble Boy and, you

[00:26:44] know, he had done some, and Darko was great.

[00:26:49] But it wasn't until maybe the past decade that I've really started to gain attention

[00:26:54] for Gyllenhaal.

[00:26:55] He's come into his own.

[00:26:58] He really has.

[00:26:59] I mean, ambulance was one of the movies I gave you for the last swap.

[00:27:02] That was so weird to see him in a role like that.

[00:27:07] And then I gave you the other movie.

[00:27:08] I didn't give it to you in a swap but I recommended it to you.

[00:27:11] The one where he's the dispatcher for that was recorded over COVID where he's the 911

[00:27:17] dispatcher.

[00:27:18] I haven't seen that.

[00:27:19] Yeah, you need to watch that.

[00:27:20] Okay.

[00:27:21] I won't give it to you during a swap because I already gave it to you.

[00:27:23] But it's not to mention we would be a third week in row of Gyllenhaal.

[00:27:27] I know.

[00:27:28] We'd call our Gyllenhaal era.

[00:27:30] The guilty is the name of that one.

[00:27:32] Okay.

[00:27:33] But him and Hugh Jackman in Prisoners, that's a fantastic movie.

[00:27:39] He's going to be Dalton in the new Roadhouse remake.

[00:27:43] I don't know what those words mean.

[00:27:45] You've never seen Roadhouse?

[00:27:46] No.

[00:27:47] It's an 80s movie.

[00:27:48] Yeah, it's an 80s movie.

[00:27:49] Uh-huh.

[00:27:50] You have your answer.

[00:27:51] It's Patrick's Wazey.

[00:27:57] And I've never seen it but I know people love Brokeback Mountain.

[00:28:00] Oh, well, we could swap that right now.

[00:28:06] No.

[00:28:07] We already said we're not doing another Gyllenhaal this week.

[00:28:09] Brokeback Mountain is beautiful.

[00:28:11] I've heard it's really good.

[00:28:12] Beautiful.

[00:28:13] And I have nothing against it.

[00:28:14] I just for some reason.

[00:28:15] I just haven't watched it yet.

[00:28:17] It's sad.

[00:28:19] Well, and it's ledger too, which I mean...

[00:28:23] Which makes it worse.

[00:28:25] Yeah, exactly.

[00:28:28] But no, I really enjoyed it.

[00:28:30] I'm glad you gave me this one.

[00:28:33] Anything's better than Last Supper.

[00:28:35] Shut up.

[00:28:37] But no, I enjoyed it.

[00:28:41] So I recommend it if people out there haven't seen it.

[00:28:43] I actually had a friend of mine because I posted on Facebook that I was watching it as

[00:28:46] podcast prep.

[00:28:47] And he's like, oh, he's like, this is a good one.

[00:28:49] I'm like, yeah, I'm watching it for a podcast.

[00:28:51] And then he message to get in the other day.

[00:28:53] He's like, so what do you think?

[00:28:54] I'm like, I can't say.

[00:28:56] Here, like you got to listen to my podcast.

[00:28:58] I'm doing it for the podcast.

[00:29:00] He's like, well, you could at least tell me if you liked it or not.

[00:29:02] I'm like, no, I can't.

[00:29:04] I can't say anything.

[00:29:07] That's the whole point of the podcast.

[00:29:09] That's why we do it.

[00:29:10] Yep.

[00:29:12] So turning to your movie.

[00:29:15] OK, so I have to tell you something.

[00:29:17] I love this soundtrack so much.

[00:29:20] Right.

[00:29:20] This movie that is so good.

[00:29:23] I had I had to grade.

[00:29:25] Oh my gosh.

[00:29:26] When I had to grade over the weekend was disgusting.

[00:29:29] I grade on to on Saturday.

[00:29:32] I graded did not stop for seven and a half hours.

[00:29:37] It was unbelieveable.

[00:29:40] How much I had to grade.

[00:29:42] And we just watched Baby Driver the night before.

[00:29:45] And I was like, ooh, I want to listen to some Baby Driver music.

[00:29:51] And I put it on in two hours just went by by.

[00:29:55] It was amazing.

[00:29:56] It is a fantastic soundtrack.

[00:29:58] Oh, well, yeah, go ahead.

[00:30:01] I was going to say and that's one of the things

[00:30:02] that Ed Gerritte does right.

[00:30:05] Oh my gosh.

[00:30:07] It's an out.

[00:30:09] Well, and this is a movie where I feel

[00:30:11] that you had to get the music right in order

[00:30:14] to establish the character.

[00:30:16] Yes.

[00:30:17] You know, I want I wanted to love this movie.

[00:30:25] I really enjoyed it.

[00:30:26] And I really liked it.

[00:30:28] But there was this weird point.

[00:30:30] And maybe it was on purpose.

[00:30:31] And maybe you can explain it to me

[00:30:33] and I'll have different feelings about it.

[00:30:34] But it seemed that the tone of the movie,

[00:30:39] like split second changed.

[00:30:41] Like there was this, we were leading up to something

[00:30:43] and then like halfway through or something.

[00:30:46] The tone, the music, everything gets super frenetic

[00:30:50] and like everything is bananas.

[00:30:53] Yeah, it's when everything, it's kind of long.

[00:30:57] It's to the end.

[00:30:58] It's Ed Gerritte's kind of Edgar style

[00:31:01] and that he does.

[00:31:02] Like everything is kind of like copacetic.

[00:31:05] Everything is moving along.

[00:31:07] Things are moving the way they should be with baby

[00:31:10] and like, you know, he's earning money

[00:31:13] and you know, he's taking care of his,

[00:31:15] I believe it was his uncle.

[00:31:16] Foster father.

[00:31:17] Foster father.

[00:31:18] Yeah, take care of his foster father.

[00:31:20] He's met a girl every and then there's a point

[00:31:24] where something happens in his world collapses.

[00:31:27] And his father, his foster father was taken.

[00:31:30] And everything, you know, kind of falls around that.

[00:31:35] And so the music has to go along with that.

[00:31:38] The cinematography has to go along with that.

[00:31:40] Like he, Edgar Wright is a very,

[00:31:43] or can be a very emotional filmmaker.

[00:31:47] Yeah, and I get that it just felt like two different movies

[00:31:52] and I think it was just a little too jarring

[00:31:55] because I mean, like when you see,

[00:31:57] like, if you see like bullet train, right?

[00:32:02] Bullet train has a very big tonal shift

[00:32:05] right in the middle, right?

[00:32:07] But I feel like it leads to that, you know.

[00:32:10] There's a transition to it.

[00:32:11] Yeah, this transition was just jarring

[00:32:14] and maybe it was supposed to be, right?

[00:32:15] And maybe that's the way that I'll look back

[00:32:18] because I'm gonna see the movie again.

[00:32:20] And maybe I'll end up that in mind the next time.

[00:32:23] And I think that's just it is that when

[00:32:26] things happen in your life and they take a turn,

[00:32:30] there's not always a transition to that.

[00:32:31] Sometimes it's very sudden.

[00:32:33] Yeah.

[00:32:34] And that's kind of how he projected it in the movie

[00:32:36] is that it shit went down

[00:32:39] and now it's just fucking nuts.

[00:32:41] Yeah, yeah.

[00:32:43] And I wish that they had had more with the girl

[00:32:45] because I liked the relationship

[00:32:47] that he had with the girl

[00:32:48] and I don't think that there was enough of that upfront

[00:32:51] for me to believe that they were going to like

[00:32:54] just drive off into the sunset together.

[00:32:57] Oh, with Deb?

[00:32:59] Yes.

[00:33:00] Yes.

[00:33:01] Yeah.

[00:33:02] Debra.

[00:33:03] Debra.

[00:33:05] It's very easy to kind of get past

[00:33:07] like I said, the kind of get past the spacey issue

[00:33:10] with the movie.

[00:33:12] Oh, I didn't even notice.

[00:33:14] Yeah, but I mean, even he really good.

[00:33:16] He's really good in the movie.

[00:33:19] Kevin's part of the night.

[00:33:20] Kevin's spacey is amazing in everything he does.

[00:33:24] I mean, is he a shitty guy?

[00:33:26] Yeah.

[00:33:27] He is and it's disappointing

[00:33:28] and it's heartbreaking because he was my favorite actor

[00:33:31] in the whole world.

[00:33:33] But holy shit, is he good in everything that he does?

[00:33:37] Yeah.

[00:33:39] I'll tell you my favorite thing of this movie

[00:33:41] and if you're a fan of Edgar right like I am

[00:33:44] and you've seen some of his earlier stuff

[00:33:46] like Hot Fuzz and Sean of the Dead

[00:33:48] and World's End and all that stuff.

[00:33:49] That's the same filmmaker.

[00:33:51] It's the same guy, yeah.

[00:33:53] See, I don't do any research on these movies

[00:33:55] because we're just supposed to watch them and then talk.

[00:33:57] You know what I mean?

[00:33:58] No, it's the same guy that did Hot Fuzz

[00:34:00] Sean of the Dead and World's End.

[00:34:01] That would have been good to know going in.

[00:34:04] Yeah.

[00:34:05] Hahaha.

[00:34:06] Hahaha.

[00:34:07] How would that have changed your opinion?

[00:34:10] I would have expected a little crazy.

[00:34:11] Yeah.

[00:34:12] Yeah, I would have expected, yeah.

[00:34:13] I would have expected Sean of the Dead and all of us.

[00:34:17] I remember so speaking of that,

[00:34:19] there's a scene in Sean of the Dead

[00:34:22] where and you could tell like after seeing Baby Driver

[00:34:25] you can kind of go back and look at this scene

[00:34:27] and be like okay he was testing the waters.

[00:34:30] There's a scene in Sean of the Dead

[00:34:32] where the jukebox comes on and plays don't stop me now

[00:34:36] and they're beating the bartender zombie

[00:34:38] and it's all to the rhythm of the music.

[00:34:42] Yeah.

[00:34:43] This entire movie is to the rhythm

[00:34:47] of the soundtrack.

[00:34:48] That is what I love about it so much.

[00:34:50] It's brilliant.

[00:34:51] Like we just feel that you are baby.

[00:34:55] Yeah.

[00:34:56] You just, it's brilliantly done.

[00:34:58] Remiles.

[00:34:59] Like from the gunshots to the tapping fingers on a table.

[00:35:03] Even like the way that he would just like move through

[00:35:08] the street and like bounce around

[00:35:10] and then yeah there is a point where

[00:35:13] he turns around and he knocks into somebody

[00:35:15] and everything is fucked after that.

[00:35:17] Yeah it jars.

[00:35:18] Yeah.

[00:35:19] And even like even in the, in the,

[00:35:22] after the opening chase which is amazing by the way.

[00:35:26] Oh my gosh I just wanted to see him drive cars.

[00:35:28] Like every single time he was having conversation

[00:35:31] with someone I'm like can we do this in the car?

[00:35:33] So before the movie opened in theaters

[00:35:36] they released that opening scene.

[00:35:38] So as like an advanced preview before the movie opened

[00:35:41] and I remember watch I was already excited for the movie

[00:35:44] because I was already a big fan of Edgar Wright.

[00:35:46] And then I saw that, I watched that clip

[00:35:48] and I was like holy shit I need to see this movie.

[00:35:52] Like it's amazing.

[00:35:53] But then like the following scene

[00:35:57] with when he goes to get the coffee

[00:36:01] and he's walking down the street

[00:36:03] and it's all to the music.

[00:36:04] Seeing the lyrics of the song

[00:36:07] like appearing in different places like the street signs.

[00:36:10] Oh yeah yeah.

[00:36:11] The wall.

[00:36:12] It's so well done.

[00:36:15] Yeah that was,

[00:36:17] it was a really good movie and I liked it a lot.

[00:36:20] I just, it was fun.

[00:36:22] I wanna see it again.

[00:36:25] Yeah definitely want to see it again.

[00:36:27] There's rumor of a sequel.

[00:36:28] That would be fun.

[00:36:30] Yeah.

[00:36:30] That would be fun if he did another one.

[00:36:32] Now,

[00:36:34] filmmaking aside and like the scenes aside

[00:36:39] what about the cast?

[00:36:40] Cause I mean we talked about Kevin Spacey already

[00:36:42] but I wanna say,

[00:36:44] John Hamm is fantastic in this movie.

[00:36:48] He was surprising.

[00:36:51] It's a dark role for him.

[00:36:53] Well especially because you don't see it at the beginning.

[00:36:58] No, it comes out of nowhere.

[00:37:00] It like it,

[00:37:02] well so when his wife said you never want to see him angry

[00:37:06] I was like oh we're gonna see him angry at some point.

[00:37:10] And then he gets angry

[00:37:12] and he's really scary.

[00:37:14] Well it's because he lost his wife.

[00:37:15] He lost our like, well she wasn't his wife.

[00:37:17] I think they were like in just a relationship.

[00:37:20] But we kept calling her his wife.

[00:37:23] Oh, did he?

[00:37:24] I don't remember.

[00:37:25] I don't remember.

[00:37:27] But yeah, Eliza Gonzalez who was actually the EMS driver

[00:37:31] in ambulance.

[00:37:33] That's different.

[00:37:35] Yeah.

[00:37:36] So.

[00:37:37] Oh and I love the Mike Myers masks.

[00:37:41] This is Michael Myers.

[00:37:44] Sorry, I just pulled up the movie on IMDB

[00:37:49] to help me with characters and stuff.

[00:37:51] Oh, John Burntles in the movie.

[00:37:54] Yes he is.

[00:37:55] Ah, that was like so cool.

[00:37:57] And then he's dead.

[00:37:58] And then he's dead.

[00:38:00] And I was so excited.

[00:38:01] I was like yes we're gonna get so much John Burnt.

[00:38:04] Where'd he go?

[00:38:05] Where'd he go?

[00:38:06] He's not in it very long.

[00:38:07] That's why I didn't love the movie.

[00:38:09] It was Jamie Foxx.

[00:38:11] Yes, I don't like him in things.

[00:38:16] So you didn't like the character bats

[00:38:19] or you didn't like Jamie Foxx?

[00:38:23] Both.

[00:38:24] Yeah.

[00:38:27] Yeah, both.

[00:38:28] You know, I he was just.

[00:38:34] A douchebag.

[00:38:35] Yeah big time.

[00:38:36] Yeah, from the start.

[00:38:38] Like he doesn't make the transition like like buddy does.

[00:38:41] Like bats is from the start a douchebag.

[00:38:44] Right, yeah, to the point where you are happy he dies.

[00:38:48] Well, especially since like he fucked up the whole plan

[00:38:54] like everything he did was wrong.

[00:38:57] Well, if I remember correctly

[00:38:58] and he was against baby from the start.

[00:39:00] Well, and he was also killing people.

[00:39:03] Yes.

[00:39:03] And I don't think that they were supposed

[00:39:04] to be killing people.

[00:39:06] I think these were smashing grabs.

[00:39:08] Yeah.

[00:39:09] And so, and so I think that was the other thing

[00:39:13] is that baby didn't want to watch any of it

[00:39:16] and he had to back up to go get them

[00:39:18] and he saw the dead person.

[00:39:21] He saw the woman, yeah.

[00:39:22] Yeah, and that's where and then he got

[00:39:24] and then he crashed the car.

[00:39:26] Which I think the theater cheered when I saw it in theaters.

[00:39:30] That was amazing.

[00:39:32] Yeah.

[00:39:32] That was the that was an epic death.

[00:39:34] I guess it was and it was still righteous.

[00:39:37] But it's also the reason why Batz's death

[00:39:41] is also the reason why buddy goes nuts

[00:39:44] is because it changes the plan

[00:39:46] and that's when Darling dies.

[00:39:48] Oh, yeah.

[00:39:49] It's when they're all running.

[00:39:51] Yeah, yep.

[00:39:52] And Darling gets shot by the police

[00:39:54] and Buddy goes crazy.

[00:39:56] Yeah.

[00:39:56] That scene in the diner where baby walks in

[00:40:00] and Buddy sitting at the bar.

[00:40:02] That is a tense scene.

[00:40:05] Yes, it is.

[00:40:07] Yes, it is.

[00:40:08] You know what?

[00:40:09] That was a fun movie.

[00:40:11] Those are really fun movie.

[00:40:12] I really enjoyed it.

[00:40:13] I love John Ham.

[00:40:14] I really, really like John Ham.

[00:40:16] Yeah, he's got range.

[00:40:17] Yeah, he does.

[00:40:18] He's got range.

[00:40:20] I love him in Parks and Rec

[00:40:22] in the like four minutes.

[00:40:23] He's only like yeah.

[00:40:25] As you can see, he's in like two days.

[00:40:26] Anybody wants to hang?

[00:40:27] I'll be at Fridays.

[00:40:29] I'll be at the Sizzler.

[00:40:30] The Sizzler, that's what it is.

[00:40:32] I'll be at the Sizzler.

[00:40:35] Yeah, he's got a lot of range

[00:40:37] and I really, really liked John Ham.

[00:40:39] Yeah, I liked this whole movie actually.

[00:40:45] I'm just looking at the cast one more time.

[00:40:46] Oh, that was the other one was Flea.

[00:40:49] He's the Michael Myers-Mask guy.

[00:40:51] Yes, I just like Michael Myers.

[00:40:53] Yeah, I love Flea.

[00:40:55] He's wonderful.

[00:40:58] Yeah, he is.

[00:40:59] Lucy does too.

[00:41:00] Aurora, Aurora does.

[00:41:03] Yeah, but the whole cast, Ansel Al Gore, John Byrne,

[00:41:06] all, Lily James is beautiful.

[00:41:12] I was trying to think of something else

[00:41:13] that I'd seen her in that I was a fan of

[00:41:16] and trying to remember what it was now.

[00:41:17] Lily James?

[00:41:19] Yeah.

[00:41:20] I don't know.

[00:41:21] Oh, she's an Iron Claw?

[00:41:22] That's another reason to watch that movie.

[00:41:24] Sure.

[00:41:25] Oh, that's right.

[00:41:26] Oh, she was in yesterday.

[00:41:27] That's the other movie I really liked the season.

[00:41:30] Oh, she was also Cinderella.

[00:41:31] Yes, she was.

[00:41:32] And she's also Pam and Pam and Tommy.

[00:41:36] With Sebastian Stan.

[00:41:38] That's different.

[00:41:40] That's different from Mama Mia.

[00:41:41] Yeah, because I kept saying,

[00:41:42] like the actress playing Pam and Anderson

[00:41:45] should not be hotter than Pam and Anderson.

[00:41:48] But she was.

[00:41:51] That's so nice.

[00:41:54] Oh, I don't have any like super special movie to give you.

[00:41:59] That's all right.

[00:42:00] I'm going to have to be boring.

[00:42:03] There's nothing sometimes boring can be really fun.

[00:42:07] Well, no, I mean like boring is in like

[00:42:12] I think I'm just going to give you John Wick three.

[00:42:16] That means I got a rewatch one and two.

[00:42:18] That's okay.

[00:42:18] I'll do it because it's been too long since I've had them.

[00:42:22] Why?

[00:42:23] Since I've seen them.

[00:42:24] Has it?

[00:42:25] It's been oh,

[00:42:27] well, you have an updated your unwatched list.

[00:42:30] You haven't updated it at all.

[00:42:32] I didn't feel the need, but I will.

[00:42:35] Well, I work off of it.

[00:42:37] Okay. Well then I will update it.

[00:42:40] All right.

[00:42:41] I mean, you can give me John Wick three.

[00:42:42] It's fine because it's been on my list for too long.

[00:42:44] Okay.

[00:42:45] All right.

[00:42:45] That's fair.

[00:42:46] So if you want.

[00:42:47] Yeah.

[00:42:48] I'm going to rewatch

[00:42:49] a whole John Wick thing and just do all four.

[00:42:52] I'm going to rewatch one and two.

[00:42:53] And then I'll watch three.

[00:42:54] So because we do these with enough time that I can do that.

[00:42:58] That's why I was going to say just watch three and four.

[00:43:01] I'm not going to do them both.

[00:43:02] Okay.

[00:43:03] We're really going to do one movie.

[00:43:04] Four is long.

[00:43:05] Is it?

[00:43:06] There's another three hour movie.

[00:43:08] Okay.

[00:43:09] I'm fine with that.

[00:43:10] But here's the thing.

[00:43:11] It's good.

[00:43:12] I'll watch a three hour movie.

[00:43:13] Well, and that's the thing.

[00:43:14] So I'm going to rewatch one and two.

[00:43:16] And then I'll watch three for this.

[00:43:18] And then I know that's just going to compel me to watch four.

[00:43:21] Yeah.

[00:43:22] So, you know.

[00:43:25] And I know, I know for a fact that's going to be like,

[00:43:27] okay, I watched one and two.

[00:43:29] I'm going to watch three.

[00:43:30] And then as soon as I'm done three,

[00:43:32] I'm going to be like, Kristen, we need the records.

[00:43:33] Well, we need the records up soon because I want to watch four.

[00:43:37] Yeah.

[00:43:38] Okay.

[00:43:39] Because I'm not going to watch.

[00:43:40] When you start watching, you let me know.

[00:43:41] And then I'll know I'll have like four days.

[00:43:44] Okay.

[00:43:45] All right.

[00:43:46] So that's fair.

[00:43:47] I'll do that.

[00:43:48] Okay.

[00:43:49] So then you give me some 80s bullshit movie.

[00:43:52] I am just going to reach through the computer and okay.

[00:43:55] Not not going to give you that at all.

[00:44:00] I don't think you've seen this movie.

[00:44:05] This was a so I'm going to give you a movie called Heller Highwater.

[00:44:11] I have not seen that.

[00:44:13] It's from 2016.

[00:44:14] It's with Chris Pine.

[00:44:16] I'm not going to tell you, not going to tell you the plot or anything like that.

[00:44:21] It's rated R so not for the kids.

[00:44:24] It's only an hour and 40.

[00:44:25] So it's not like I'm not giving you like a three hour long movie.

[00:44:31] But this was a movie that I remember at the time, I got offered two movie screenings

[00:44:40] in the same theater on the same night.

[00:44:42] And I was like, well, I can't do both.

[00:44:44] Like I got to pick one.

[00:44:45] And it was between Heller Highwater and I think one of like the huge big budget, like

[00:44:53] Hercules or God's will.

[00:44:57] Something like it wasn't God's will there was something involving like the gods and whatever.

[00:45:01] And I was like, you know what?

[00:45:03] I watched the trailers for both and I'm like, you know what?

[00:45:06] Heller Highwater is definitely a smaller budget movie.

[00:45:09] But sometimes those can be really good.

[00:45:12] So I'm like, I'm going to take Heller Highwater.

[00:45:15] And I went to the screening of Heller Highwater and I walked out into the theater being like,

[00:45:19] oh, I made the right choice.

[00:45:20] Oh, good.

[00:45:23] Because that big budget movie bombed.

[00:45:25] Oh, did it?

[00:45:26] Yeah, I'm trying to remember.

[00:45:28] Hold on.

[00:45:29] Let me see.

[00:45:30] When did what other movie came out?

[00:45:33] Well, I'm excited.

[00:45:34] And you know what I like, Chris Pine so that's good.

[00:45:38] There are some other cast members in there too that you'll recognize, but I don't want

[00:45:41] to give too much away.

[00:45:42] All right.

[00:45:43] Well, I gave you Keanu Reeves.

[00:45:44] You're welcome.

[00:45:45] Yeah.

[00:45:46] And you gave me Chris Pine.

[00:45:48] So that is work.

[00:45:50] But I'm also, this has also been a movie that's been on my list to rewatch for a while.

[00:45:54] So now I can, I have the excuse to rewatch it again.

[00:45:58] Yay!

[00:45:59] That's always the fun part of doing these is I get to watch a movie I've never seen before

[00:46:03] and I get to rewatch a movie.

[00:46:04] I, you know, I've wanted to rewatch.

[00:46:07] Yes.

[00:46:08] And I will yes.

[00:46:09] I do like that.

[00:46:10] So you're going to update your list.

[00:46:13] That's your homework.

[00:46:14] That's also your homework.

[00:46:15] I will update my list.

[00:46:16] I will even add more movies to it.

[00:46:18] I'll try.

[00:46:19] Thank you.

[00:46:20] I will try.

[00:46:21] Try.

[00:46:22] You will.

[00:46:23] Yes, ma'am.

[00:46:24] Yep.

[00:46:25] There you go.

[00:46:27] You get it.

[00:46:29] Um, yeah.

[00:46:31] I think that's, I think that's about it for this episode.

[00:46:35] We talked about both movies.

[00:46:37] We gave each other other movies.

[00:46:40] I think we're going to see that.

[00:46:41] We liked each other's movies.

[00:46:43] That's always a plus.

[00:46:44] I think so.

[00:46:45] It's always a plus.

[00:46:46] I mean, it doesn't always turn into absolutely hysterical conversations.

[00:46:51] Like that was a really good one.

[00:46:54] That was a really good one.

[00:46:55] That was a really good one.

[00:46:56] 3 to tango.

[00:46:57] Um, can I also say real quick on a, on a sat her note that when they did the Inmimorium

[00:47:02] last night, Jordyn Oskars.

[00:47:04] I didn't want to see it.

[00:47:05] I held it together until I saw Matthew Barry.

[00:47:08] And then I got a little choked up. Yeah.

[00:47:12] There were a number of people admitted from it, for some reason that word.

[00:47:16] And lands reddit, right? Lands reddit was not in it.

[00:47:19] What? Why?

[00:47:21] Andre Broward was in it. Lands reddit was not in it.

[00:47:24] That's bull.

[00:47:25] Yeah, there were a couple big names that weren't in it.

[00:47:30] So I don't know what the deal was.

[00:47:33] I don't know why.

[00:47:35] But I mean, Peewee Herman like Paul Rubens was in it.

[00:47:39] Yeah, he was or was not.

[00:47:41] Was?

[00:47:42] Okay.

[00:47:43] Um, who were they?

[00:47:45] Names emitted from in memoriam.

[00:47:55] There were like three big names.

[00:47:59] Oh no, there was a couple.

[00:48:01] Um, lands reddit.

[00:48:03] Yeah, there was quite a few, there was Suzanne Summers.

[00:48:07] Lance Reddick, Treet Williams and Norman Lear.

[00:48:10] Fucking Norman Lear.

[00:48:13] How do you forget Norman Lear?

[00:48:15] Like he's one of the greatest television show creators of all time.

[00:48:22] I don't know.

[00:48:22] I don't know why they were left out.

[00:48:24] But yeah, which is ridiculous, but it is what it is.

[00:48:30] Did I see a living new, no, a living Newton John was well, was a couple years ago.

[00:48:35] So, so I know, Aurora.

[00:48:37] I'm mad they were left out too.

[00:48:40] Just I don't forget.

[00:48:43] Anything final before we wrap this up?

[00:48:46] Go see Doom Part 2.

[00:48:48] Okay.

[00:48:49] And I will follow that up by saying watch our guy on streaming

[00:48:54] because it's fine.

[00:48:55] We should just give each other theater movies.

[00:48:59] Our guy was not a theater movie.

[00:49:01] It's streaming.

[00:49:02] Okay.

[00:49:03] Hey, it's not in theaters anymore.

[00:49:07] So I don't see Doom Part 2 anyways.

[00:49:09] Okay.

[00:49:11] It's so good.

[00:49:14] All right.

[00:49:14] So before we head out, I'm just going to say make sure you go check out the

[00:49:18] revisited podcast over at revisitedpod.com.

[00:49:21] Chris and I do as well together.

[00:49:23] We're about to wrap up season two of Ted Lasso.

[00:49:26] Also coming up on this podcast on Wilhelm

[00:49:29] Christie Swanson, my panel with Christie Swanson from last year.

[00:49:33] And top five movies you'll never outgrow are also going to be coming up.

[00:49:37] And check out the Oscar episode we did that

[00:49:39] Pake and Brandy came on it did with me.

[00:49:41] That was a lot of fun.

[00:49:43] Because I got seven out of 10.

[00:49:45] Brandy got eight out of 10 and Pake predicted nine out of 10.

[00:49:48] Wow.

[00:49:49] We all got this best best actress.

[00:49:52] We all predicted Lily Gladstone taking that Oscar.

[00:49:56] Who she that could?

[00:49:58] She's really good and killers of the fire.

[00:50:00] Did you see poor things?

[00:50:03] Poor things?

[00:50:04] Yes.

[00:50:04] And was Emma still amazing?

[00:50:06] I was I was I was surprised she didn't she won

[00:50:09] but I was not disappointed in the least.

[00:50:12] Okay.

[00:50:12] It's it's really good.

[00:50:14] What is it about?

[00:50:17] It's how to describe it.

[00:50:21] It's so basically hold on.

[00:50:24] Let me see if I want to see if there's actually a

[00:50:27] synopsis that will tell it better than I get.

[00:50:31] The incredible tale about the fanatical

[00:50:34] a fantastical evolution of Bella Baxter

[00:50:36] a young woman brought back to life by the brilliant and unorthodox

[00:50:41] science scientist Dr. Goodwin Baxter.

[00:50:48] The scientist is Willem DeFoe.

[00:50:50] He's fantastic.

[00:50:52] Ruffalo is fantastic.

[00:50:55] She comes back to she's brought back to life

[00:50:58] but she has the mind of an infant

[00:51:02] in an adult body.

[00:51:04] So she's she's discovering she's a she's somebody who lived and died

[00:51:09] but is brought back to life and is brought back to life with the

[00:51:12] wonderman of a child.

[00:51:15] It's it's crazy.

[00:51:17] It's a crazy movie but it's really good.

[00:51:20] Okay I want to see it.

[00:51:22] I really want to see it.

[00:51:24] It's like two hours and 20 minutes too.

[00:51:26] It's it's it's lengthy.

[00:51:29] Yeah but if it's worth it you won't notice.

[00:51:32] True.

[00:51:32] Yeah but it's it's really good.

[00:51:34] It's a great movie.

[00:51:36] But I think that's going to wrap it up for this episode of MovieSwap.

[00:51:41] Thank you guys for listening.

[00:51:42] For taking part if you have any comments or remarks about any of the movies

[00:51:46] that we covered any of them because we talk about a lot of movies in this

[00:51:49] episode.

[00:51:50] Um feel free to leave feedback feedback and

[00:51:53] willhelmpodcast.com but until next time

[00:51:57] see you on another episode of Willhelm and the MovieSwap.

[00:52:00] Bye bye.