MOVIE SWAP: Ambulance / Hunger Games: Ballad of Songbirds & Snakes
WilhelmFebruary 07, 202400:59:4956.1 MB

MOVIE SWAP: Ambulance / Hunger Games: Ballad of Songbirds & Snakes

Ben BeckBen BeckHost

Welcome to Wilhelm and another edition of The Wilhelm Movie Swap!

Join Kristin and Ben as they swap another pair of movies they've never seen. This week, Ben gives Kristin Michael Bay's "Ambulance" while Kristin gives Ben the Hunger Games prequel "Hunger Games: Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes"

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[00:00.000 --> 00:29.960] I need to do nothing for like two hours Did you figure out what movie you're giving me? [00:29.960 --> 00:59.920] Yes, I did and I also yesterday Saturdays are usually our do nothing days and I had like two weeks of schoolwork to catch up on plus I had to do some grading. I still have to do some grading. I still have to do some schoolwork, but I just want when we're done here. I just want to go downstairs and lay on the couch for like two hours two hours and do nothing. [00:59.960 --> 01:16.960] I think about nothing and just zone out on nothing. Those sound like perfect days. Well, a stupid son is out and so it makes me feel like I have to go outside. See, that's why I just buy blackout curtains like I have. [01:16.960 --> 01:28.960] Everything's always closed, but I don't have curtains in the office. So I'm looking at a gorgeous day outside and it's making me angry. [01:28.960 --> 01:47.960] Oh, I love that I'm already recording. So that's all part of the episode. Hey, before we get into our movies, you know what I did. Finally, I finished justified. Yay. I'm so happy for you. Did you love it? I did. [01:48.960 --> 01:56.960] You were wrong because Boyd Crowder does not have the last line. He doesn't because Raylin goes to see. [01:56.960 --> 02:07.960] Raylin has the last line. It's in response to Boyd's line. Yeah, but so Boyd technically has the real last line. [02:07.960 --> 02:13.960] But Raylin responds. So Raylin is actually the one that has the last line. What does he say? [02:13.960 --> 02:18.960] It's something about like we were down in the mines together. We were in the coal mines. [02:18.960 --> 02:23.960] Because we dug coal together. That's it. What does Raylin say back? That's what I'm asking. [02:23.960 --> 02:27.960] I think he says like, yes, sir, we did. And then that's like that's it. [02:27.960 --> 02:38.960] But that was an iconic glass line for Boyd. Boyd Crowder, there's going to be an episode of Will Home where I'm going to do top five favorite TV villains. [02:39.960 --> 02:47.960] Boyd Crowder is on that list. Yeah, he's 100%. He's one of my favorite all time TV characters. [02:47.960 --> 02:56.960] You can't help but root for the guy to win every once in a while. Yeah. Yeah. He's God. He's so good. [02:56.960 --> 03:02.960] Yeah, I wish Walton Goggins did more. Me too. You know he's in the Maze Runner series? [03:02.960 --> 03:08.960] Yes, which I still need to watch the second and third ones after you gave me the first one here on swap. [03:08.960 --> 03:15.960] But I also want to watch the unicorn. Me too. Which it's available now. It's available to us now. [03:15.960 --> 03:28.960] So I do plan to watch. And I also want to my mom told me she she she started watching Righteous Gemstones purely for Walton Goggins and actually really likes the show. [03:28.960 --> 03:37.960] He's in it. Oh, yeah. Oh, well, then I really need to watch it. Yeah, he's in Righteous Gemstones. So that's one I need to watch as well. [03:37.960 --> 03:51.960] We'll see. But yeah, welcome to another episode of Movie Swap. And where Kristen and I give each other homework and talk about each other after. [03:52.960 --> 04:10.960] Yeah, pretty much. So this episode, our homework was I gave you Ambulance, which was a 2021 I think movie by Michael Bay. [04:11.960 --> 04:20.960] And you gave me the Hunger Games Ballet of Songbird and Snakes, which was from 2023. [04:20.960 --> 04:28.960] And I was just reminded because we just got done recording revisited and we were mentioned in Parks and Rec and that too. [04:28.960 --> 04:33.960] But there's a line actually ties into Hunger Games because of Jason Fortsman. [04:34.960 --> 04:40.960] Jason Fortsman's character in Parks and Rec is a guy that owns a video store. [04:40.960 --> 04:49.960] At a one point, Leslie tells him like, you know, you got to bring in more mainstream movies like maybe bringing some Pixar and I hate to say this finding Nemo. [04:49.960 --> 04:55.960] And I hate to say this, but maybe even a little Michael Bay and Fortsman's like, no, no, no, no. [04:55.960 --> 04:58.960] Yeah. [04:59.960 --> 05:05.960] But yeah, so Hunger Games, Ballet of Songbird and Snakes and Ambulance from Michael Bay. [05:05.960 --> 05:08.960] Let's start with Ambulance. [05:08.960 --> 05:14.960] Okay, let's start with Ambulance. I'm very curious of your thoughts on this one. [05:14.960 --> 05:26.960] I liked this movie. It was fun. I like heist movies. I get, you know, the actor who plays the Marine. [05:27.960 --> 05:29.960] I can't, I can never pronounce his name properly. [05:29.960 --> 05:37.960] No, me neither. I'm trying to, what was his name in the movie though? Because Jake Gyllenhaal was Danny. [05:39.960 --> 05:42.960] It wasn't it? It's Jack, isn't it? [05:42.960 --> 05:45.960] Hang on. I'm on the IMDB page. [05:45.960 --> 05:50.960] It's Will. Will. Will. Will Sharp and Danny Sharp. That's what it is. [05:51.960 --> 05:55.960] I really, really love this actor. Love this actor. [05:55.960 --> 06:00.960] It looks like it's Yaya Abdul-Mateen II. [06:00.960 --> 06:01.960] Yes. Yeah. [06:01.960 --> 06:07.960] So he, I guess, has been in a whole bunch of stuff. He's been in some Jordan Peele movies, [06:07.960 --> 06:14.960] which I haven't really watched. He is remarkable in this movie. He is such a talent. [06:14.960 --> 06:16.960] You know, there's very... [06:17.960 --> 06:21.960] He's also the villain in the second, he's in the first Aquaman movie, [06:21.960 --> 06:24.960] but he's, I think he's the main villain in the second one. [06:24.960 --> 06:32.960] Okay, I haven't seen that one. His nonverbal acting is phenomenal. Like, he doesn't say a lot in this, in this movie, [06:32.960 --> 06:40.960] but he is a central figure in this movie. And it's, a lot of it is just the way that he reacts to the other actors around him. [06:40.960 --> 06:46.960] And you really care about him. Like, at the end, when he gets shot, you're just like, no. [06:46.960 --> 06:51.960] Well, I, so I, one of the reasons why I gave you this movie is because I actually do really enjoy this movie. [06:51.960 --> 06:56.960] I'm, I was a big fan of early Michael Bay stuff, and then some of the later stuff, I was kind of like, [06:56.960 --> 07:02.960] no, this is just more the same. And then I felt like this was like a kind of like a nice refresh to Michael Bay again. [07:02.960 --> 07:05.960] Like, this made me a fan of Michael Bay movies again. [07:05.960 --> 07:07.960] Do you know how this movie got made? [07:07.960 --> 07:08.960] No. [07:08.960 --> 07:09.960] No. [07:09.960 --> 07:19.960] So it was filmed during the pandemic, and Michael Bay basically was so tired of sitting inside, he needed to make a movie. [07:19.960 --> 07:27.960] He just needed to make a quick movie. And since everybody was indoors during this time, it took 38 days to film this movie. [07:27.960 --> 07:36.960] And he, and the guy that plays Will Sharp, yah, yah, yah, he even said he goes, this was the craziest experience I ever had making a movie. [07:36.960 --> 07:38.960] Like, it was, it was lightning fast. [07:38.960 --> 07:44.960] Michael Bay movies are crazy to begin with. Like, the movie process he does is crazy to begin with. [07:44.960 --> 07:49.960] So, compacting it into that short amount of time during a pandemic, I can only imagine. [07:49.960 --> 07:51.960] Yeah, just insanity. [07:51.960 --> 07:56.960] I will also tell you too, that this movie has one of my favorite character actors, and that's Garrett Dilahan. [07:56.960 --> 07:57.960] Oh, yeah. [07:57.960 --> 07:59.960] And he's wonderful too. [07:59.960 --> 08:03.960] And this movie is the reason he left Fear the Walking Dead. [08:04.960 --> 08:06.960] He left Fear the Walking Dead to do this movie. [08:06.960 --> 08:08.960] Well, he was tired of Fear the Walking Dead to begin with. [08:08.960 --> 08:09.960] He didn't like. [08:09.960 --> 08:10.960] We all were. [08:10.960 --> 08:12.960] There was a lot of things about the show he wasn't crazy about. [08:12.960 --> 08:16.960] But he, when he left Fear, this is the first thing he did. [08:16.960 --> 08:17.960] That's awesome. [08:17.960 --> 08:23.960] Yeah, I was, and again, like, there's going to be spoilers because we're obviously we're discussing these movies. [08:23.960 --> 08:26.960] I was so disappointed when his character was killed. [08:26.960 --> 08:29.960] I was shocked. I couldn't believe it when it happened. [08:30.960 --> 08:32.960] I was just like, oh my gosh, they just killed him. [08:32.960 --> 08:33.960] They just killed him. [08:33.960 --> 08:36.960] I was so disappointed. [08:36.960 --> 08:40.960] But one of the things that initially drew me to this was one, it was Michael Bay. [08:40.960 --> 08:42.960] Two, it was a high fast. [08:42.960 --> 08:49.960] It was a high action, like fast-paced movie during a pandemic, which was something I thought we really needed. [08:49.960 --> 08:51.960] And I do enjoy Jake Gyllenhaal. [08:51.960 --> 08:54.960] And I really love his character of Danny in this movie. [08:54.960 --> 09:00.960] But I have such a crush on Isaac Gonzalez, who plays Cam. [09:00.960 --> 09:07.960] I think she is fucking, pardon my French, and pardon me for being like kind of like a typical male. [09:07.960 --> 09:09.960] I think she's absolutely gorgeous. [09:09.960 --> 09:13.960] And I have such a crush on her that she's really what drew me into this movie. [09:13.960 --> 09:15.960] And her character is fantastic. [09:15.960 --> 09:17.960] Her character is really good. [09:17.960 --> 09:21.960] And I like to see that she does have an arc and she does evolve at the end. [09:21.960 --> 09:26.960] She goes back to check on the little girl from the beginning of the movie. [09:26.960 --> 09:32.960] I had a real problem with Jake Gyllenhaal as the bad guy, to be quite honest. [09:32.960 --> 09:36.960] I spent the entire movie wishing it was Bradley Cooper. [09:36.960 --> 09:40.960] Ooh, that could have been fun. [09:40.960 --> 09:46.960] I think that he would have been a better cast just because, and I didn't like Jake Gyllenhaal as Mysterio either. [09:46.960 --> 09:48.960] I don't like him as a bad guy. [09:48.960 --> 09:51.960] I don't think he works as a bad guy. [09:51.960 --> 09:53.960] And that's just my opinion. [09:53.960 --> 09:54.960] Okay. [09:54.960 --> 09:55.960] All right. [09:55.960 --> 09:56.960] That's fair. [09:56.960 --> 09:57.960] He's phenomenal. [09:57.960 --> 09:58.960] He's wonderful. [09:58.960 --> 10:01.960] And he acts his ass off in this movie. [10:01.960 --> 10:03.960] And I think that he's really good in this movie. [10:03.960 --> 10:11.960] But for me, he just doesn't work, especially as an irredeemable, unredeemable bad guy. [10:11.960 --> 10:16.960] Like he, he's an asshole to the end. [10:16.960 --> 10:18.960] Yeah, including to his own brother sometimes. [10:18.960 --> 10:21.960] I mean, he's an asshole as he's dying. [10:21.960 --> 10:22.960] He's an asshole. [10:22.960 --> 10:25.960] He's such a complicated character in this too. [10:25.960 --> 10:35.960] Like one of the things like I found so intriguing about this movie and one of the reasons why I gave it to you is because this is a movie where these two people are obviously the bad guys. [10:35.960 --> 10:38.960] They're very clearly the villains of the story. [10:38.960 --> 10:41.960] But you find yourself rooting for them. [10:41.960 --> 10:42.960] No, no. [10:42.960 --> 10:43.960] Sometimes. [10:44.960 --> 10:49.960] But he still is the one that should have something to say about this too. [10:49.960 --> 10:50.960] Yeah. [10:50.960 --> 10:53.960] But he still is the one that shoots the cop. [10:53.960 --> 10:56.960] So he is technically the bad guy. [10:56.960 --> 10:57.960] He is. [10:57.960 --> 10:59.960] That was an accident. [10:59.960 --> 11:02.960] He shot that was an accident. [11:02.960 --> 11:05.960] Yeah, because there was a fight over the gun. [11:05.960 --> 11:06.960] That's okay. [11:06.960 --> 11:07.960] That's true. [11:07.960 --> 11:09.960] And he and the gun went off in his hand. [11:09.960 --> 11:10.960] Okay. [11:10.960 --> 11:11.960] That's true. [11:11.960 --> 11:12.960] That's true. [11:12.960 --> 11:13.960] Okay. [11:13.960 --> 11:14.960] That's true. [11:14.960 --> 11:17.960] And he wanted to stay with the cop and Danny made him leave. [11:17.960 --> 11:24.960] I mean, he's still a bad guy in the sense that he knows he's committing a crime. [11:24.960 --> 11:27.960] And he's part of a crime being committed. [11:27.960 --> 11:28.960] Right. [11:28.960 --> 11:33.960] But I think that his thing was is that and it's the same thing. [11:33.960 --> 11:35.960] It seems to be his story. [11:35.960 --> 11:39.960] He can't abandon his brother. [11:40.960 --> 11:45.960] Even in the end when he shoots Danny, he still cries over his death. [11:45.960 --> 11:46.960] Yeah. [11:46.960 --> 11:47.960] He kills his brother. [11:47.960 --> 11:48.960] Yeah. [11:48.960 --> 11:49.960] Crazy. [11:49.960 --> 11:53.960] He kills his brother to save the EMT. [11:53.960 --> 11:54.960] Yes. [11:54.960 --> 11:55.960] He does. [11:55.960 --> 12:08.960] I got to tell you though, this movie is so fast paced and it's so, it's so intent on being like [12:08.960 --> 12:09.960] a speed chase movie. [12:09.960 --> 12:13.640] It gave me heat vibes. [12:13.640 --> 12:15.680] It gave me speed vibes. [12:15.680 --> 12:20.880] I felt like Michael Bay said, what if you took heat and speed and mashed them together? [12:20.880 --> 12:21.880] What would that look like? [12:21.880 --> 12:28.280] And put it in an ambulance, you know, that I don't, I didn't feel like there was enough [12:28.280 --> 12:33.640] like exposition or character development to really care about these characters at the [12:33.640 --> 12:34.640] end. [12:34.640 --> 12:42.560] He spent so much time with the bank robbery and the high speed chase and everything else [12:42.560 --> 12:48.640] that when we got to the end, the ending, it should have been like 10 minutes longer. [12:48.640 --> 12:57.080] There should have been a natural like falling action into resolution and it just didn't happen. [12:57.080 --> 13:01.800] It was just like the high speed chase was over and then all of a sudden it was, they [13:01.800 --> 13:05.800] were like, you know, saying, I'm sorry and I love you in the hospital and that was it. [13:05.800 --> 13:10.280] Like, it, I do get what you're saying, but this is Michael Bay style. [13:10.280 --> 13:14.320] Like if you look at other Michael Bay movies, like take Armageddon, for instance, for instance, [13:14.320 --> 13:17.200] Armageddon, there was so much character development. [13:17.200 --> 13:18.200] What are you talking about? [13:18.200 --> 13:22.080] Well, it was, there was a lot of character, but I'm talking about the way he wraps his [13:22.080 --> 13:28.400] stories in that there's not like a 10 minute long thing to wrap up the story. [13:28.400 --> 13:31.920] It's it's action up until the last minute or two. [13:31.920 --> 13:35.600] And then there's a little bit of exposition at the end to kind of wrap up the story. [13:35.600 --> 13:38.880] Like at the end of Armageddon, it's they got back. [13:38.880 --> 13:43.920] It's say it's Willie Sharp saying that like your father was the greatest man I ever met. [13:43.920 --> 13:46.320] And then there's the guy meeting his kid. [13:46.320 --> 13:47.720] That man's your daddy. [13:47.720 --> 13:53.600] And then you see the wedding of, you know, live Tyler and Ben Affleck while the credits [13:53.600 --> 13:55.600] are rolling on the movie. [13:56.600 --> 13:59.840] You know, like that's the way Michael Bay does his story. [13:59.840 --> 14:00.840] But I understand that. [14:00.840 --> 14:05.680] But if you're going to bring up Armageddon as as an example, Armageddon ebbs and flows [14:05.680 --> 14:06.680] in its action. [14:06.680 --> 14:08.600] Oh, I don't disagree with you. [14:08.600 --> 14:10.120] We have the quiet moments. [14:10.120 --> 14:11.880] We have the build up moments. [14:11.880 --> 14:13.520] This movie didn't have that. [14:13.520 --> 14:15.480] And I love a good heist movie. [14:15.480 --> 14:16.480] Okay. [14:16.480 --> 14:17.480] I thought it was all really great. [14:17.480 --> 14:20.880] But if you wanted me to care about these characters enough to care about who was dying [14:20.880 --> 14:23.920] at the end, I needed a little bit more on the front end. [14:23.920 --> 14:28.640] You mean you didn't get connected to these characters when Danny and Will were sharing [14:28.640 --> 14:31.920] earbuds and singing sailing by Christopher Cross? [14:31.920 --> 14:32.920] No. [14:32.920 --> 14:33.920] Okay. [14:33.920 --> 14:34.920] No, not at all. [14:34.920 --> 14:37.440] I thought that it came out of nowhere. [14:37.440 --> 14:38.440] And yeah. [14:38.440 --> 14:39.440] That was a joke. [14:39.440 --> 14:40.440] Oh, okay. [14:40.440 --> 14:41.440] I wasn't being serious. [14:41.440 --> 14:46.200] I mean, I'd love to see if there's like, is there, are there deleted scenes that we missed? [14:46.200 --> 14:52.760] Like, I maybe it was just because it was, you know, a pandemic movie and they had to like [14:52.760 --> 14:54.360] kind of do what they had to do. [14:54.360 --> 14:55.440] Listen, the movie was fun. [14:55.440 --> 14:56.440] I enjoyed it. [14:56.440 --> 14:58.560] I would watch it again, 100%. [14:58.560 --> 15:01.760] But I mean, if we're just going to like talk about it, talk about it, yeah, it wrapped [15:01.760 --> 15:03.440] up too quickly for me. [15:03.440 --> 15:09.360] And there wasn't enough character development on the front end for me to care at the end. [15:09.360 --> 15:10.360] End. [15:10.360 --> 15:11.360] I get that. [15:11.360 --> 15:12.760] And I, and this was from 2022. [15:12.760 --> 15:13.760] I was mistaken. [15:13.760 --> 15:14.760] Not 2021. [15:14.760 --> 15:20.520] Um, and I, I, I do get what you're saying, but I think, I think you might have hit the nail [15:20.520 --> 15:21.520] on the head. [15:21.520 --> 15:27.160] I do think because this was a pandemic movie that I think that really did affect the storytelling [15:27.160 --> 15:28.160] in that. [15:28.160 --> 15:31.040] Michael, by like you said, just kind of wanted to get out there and make a movie. [15:31.040 --> 15:32.040] Yeah. [15:32.040 --> 15:36.040] So he probably didn't put as much concentration into the character development as he usually [15:36.040 --> 15:37.040] does. [15:37.040 --> 15:40.520] Um, I mean, hell, even the Transformers movies have character development. [15:40.520 --> 15:41.520] Right. [15:41.520 --> 15:42.520] Oh, gosh. [15:42.520 --> 15:50.960] And the bank, his, the, the bank, Robert, people, like all of them were just, I was so glad when [15:50.960 --> 15:52.560] they died, like he got shot. [15:52.560 --> 15:53.560] I was like, good. [15:53.560 --> 15:54.560] He's gone. [15:54.560 --> 15:55.560] Okay. [15:55.560 --> 15:56.560] Good. [15:56.560 --> 15:57.560] He's dead. [15:57.560 --> 15:58.560] Good. [15:58.560 --> 15:59.560] Okay. [15:59.560 --> 16:00.560] Good. [16:00.560 --> 16:01.560] You're dead. [16:01.560 --> 16:02.560] Perfect. [16:02.560 --> 16:03.720] Well, I mean, they, they, they take it down to the simplest factor in that it's just Jake. [16:03.720 --> 16:04.720] It's just Danny and Will. [16:04.720 --> 16:05.720] Yeah. [16:05.720 --> 16:09.640] They said that it was so tight in the ambulance in the trivia. [16:09.640 --> 16:13.120] It was so tight in the ambulance when they were filming that Jake Gyllenhaal was actually [16:13.120 --> 16:14.800] holding the camera for a few shots. [16:14.800 --> 16:15.800] I wouldn't be surprised. [16:15.800 --> 16:16.800] Yeah. [16:16.800 --> 16:17.800] I would not be. [16:17.800 --> 16:19.760] I hope you got a credit camera man. [16:19.760 --> 16:23.560] I do like the fact that Michael, Michael Bay tends to do this a lot, but he tends to [16:23.560 --> 16:28.480] reference his own movies in his movies because he does it in the beginning. [16:28.480 --> 16:31.240] There's the whole, you know, winners go home and fuck the prom queen. [16:31.240 --> 16:39.440] Oh, the rock from the rock, which that's to me, that is prime time Michael Bay time that [16:39.440 --> 16:42.240] like a lot of character development. [16:42.240 --> 16:43.320] I love that move. [16:43.320 --> 16:46.000] That is still one of my favorite action movies of all time. [16:46.000 --> 16:47.000] Yeah. [16:47.080 --> 16:51.760] We, uh, we totally ignored the fact that it was rated R and we watched it with kids. [16:51.760 --> 17:00.080] Anyway, we just fast forwarded through one scene, the sex scene between the stage and Vanessa, [17:00.080 --> 17:01.920] whatever Vanessa, Vanessa Marcel. [17:01.920 --> 17:02.920] Yeah. [17:02.920 --> 17:05.320] We were like, you don't tour is this. [17:05.320 --> 17:06.320] Yeah. [17:06.320 --> 17:07.480] It's awesome. [17:07.480 --> 17:09.960] I have to, I haven't watched that in a while. [17:09.960 --> 17:10.960] Yeah. [17:10.960 --> 17:14.720] That movie deserves a rewatch that movie deserves all the re watches. [17:14.720 --> 17:15.720] It's so good. [17:15.720 --> 17:16.720] Yeah. [17:16.720 --> 17:19.440] I don't know in Zeus's butthole. [17:19.440 --> 17:21.440] This is butthole. [17:21.440 --> 17:29.560] Nick of his cage, like it's that and man, Nick of his cage is in the middle of a resurgence [17:29.560 --> 17:36.080] again in his career and, but even then, like it was, I think in the, in a time span of [17:36.080 --> 17:43.800] one year, it was the rock, con air and face off and they're all classics and they're all [17:43.800 --> 17:44.800] great. [17:44.800 --> 17:46.240] I love all those movies. [17:46.240 --> 17:50.560] And then there was national treasure, which I am a huge fan of, well, I think that was [17:50.560 --> 17:51.560] a couple of years later. [17:51.560 --> 17:52.560] Yeah. [17:52.560 --> 17:53.560] Right. [17:53.560 --> 17:54.560] Right. [17:54.560 --> 17:57.840] But still like those three con air face off in the rock, like within a year of each other [17:57.840 --> 17:58.840] is just. [17:58.840 --> 17:59.840] Yeah. [17:59.840 --> 18:02.760] Wasn't he nominated for an Academy Award for adaptation? [18:02.760 --> 18:03.760] Yeah. [18:03.760 --> 18:04.760] I think he was. [18:04.760 --> 18:05.760] Yeah. [18:05.760 --> 18:08.200] He, he's, he's got range. [18:08.200 --> 18:09.200] Jake was right. [18:09.200 --> 18:14.640] You know, I, I've said this before, like I said, you know, when it comes to my top five [18:14.680 --> 18:18.800] episodes for Wilhelm for this, you know, I said Robin Williams was, was a tough one. [18:18.800 --> 18:19.800] And that was true. [18:19.800 --> 18:20.800] That was a tough one. [18:20.800 --> 18:24.960] Top five Nicholas cage movies is also going to be a tough one. [18:24.960 --> 18:29.520] Although I, I have a couple in the back of my head that are already going to be in that [18:29.520 --> 18:30.520] list. [18:30.520 --> 18:33.680] So yeah, he's done a way to massive talent. [18:33.680 --> 18:35.680] That movie was great. [18:35.680 --> 18:37.680] That movie was great. [18:37.680 --> 18:40.640] Pedro Pascal is great in that movie. [18:40.640 --> 18:41.640] Yeah. [18:41.640 --> 18:48.200] So even when we did, um, you know, our, our favorites of 2023, I mentioned dream scenario, [18:48.200 --> 18:52.160] which is a recent one and is a great movie. [18:52.160 --> 18:53.160] Yeah. [18:53.160 --> 18:54.160] So good. [18:54.160 --> 18:55.160] Good job. [18:55.160 --> 18:56.160] Michael. [18:56.160 --> 18:57.160] Good job. [18:57.160 --> 18:58.640] Nicholas cage after talking about ambulance. [18:58.640 --> 18:59.640] Yeah. [18:59.640 --> 19:03.160] Well, Michael Bay, you know, ambulance, Michael Bay, Nicholas cage, it, it worked. [19:03.160 --> 19:06.800] But yeah, I gave you this one because I wanted to give you something a little bit more like [19:06.800 --> 19:11.640] action-packed and fast-paced because I know you like action movies as much as I do. [19:11.640 --> 19:13.920] And I love heist movies. [19:13.920 --> 19:18.080] And my next movie that I'm giving you is about is the same. [19:18.080 --> 19:22.840] It's another fast-paced action, heist film. [19:22.840 --> 19:27.440] So I'm excited to give you, I'm excited to give you my next one. [19:27.440 --> 19:28.760] So should we shift gears then? [19:28.760 --> 19:30.320] Yeah, let's talk about ballads. [19:30.320 --> 19:31.320] Oh God. [19:31.320 --> 19:34.880] I knew you were going to get be so excited. [19:34.880 --> 19:35.880] Did you like it? [19:35.880 --> 19:36.880] It was all right. [19:36.880 --> 19:37.880] No. [19:37.880 --> 19:38.880] No, just kidding. [19:38.880 --> 19:39.880] I'm kidding. [19:39.880 --> 19:40.880] I'm kidding. [19:40.880 --> 19:41.880] I really enjoyed it. [19:41.880 --> 19:42.880] Yeah. [19:42.880 --> 19:46.600] It's what was so interesting to me too. [19:46.600 --> 19:48.800] I didn't look into this movie at all. [19:48.800 --> 19:50.240] I didn't want to know. [19:50.240 --> 19:52.880] I knew I was going to have to watch it eventually. [19:52.880 --> 19:55.320] I'm a fan of the original Hunger Games movies. [19:55.320 --> 19:56.320] I'm a fan of the books. [19:56.320 --> 19:58.520] I didn't read the book of this one. [19:58.520 --> 20:04.360] I knew this one was a prequel, but I didn't know anything other than that. [20:04.360 --> 20:05.360] I didn't know. [20:05.360 --> 20:06.360] No. [20:06.360 --> 20:09.240] No, I had no idea it was about snow. [20:09.240 --> 20:21.140] So when I found out it was snow, I was like, oh, okay, this is an origin story of President [20:21.140 --> 20:22.560] Snow from the Hunger Games. [20:22.560 --> 20:25.880] So I know he's not going to die. [20:25.880 --> 20:32.360] So that kind of took a little bit away from watching. [20:32.360 --> 20:40.760] But I did enjoy it because I love the fact that this is a, and not enough, okay, let me, [20:40.760 --> 20:45.360] I was going to say not enough movies do this, but let me say not enough movies do this well. [20:45.360 --> 20:46.360] Oh, okay. [20:46.360 --> 20:52.080] Because Sony's been trying to do villain origin stories with Venom and Craven and Morbius and [20:52.080 --> 20:54.640] they all suck. [20:54.640 --> 20:58.520] Not enough movies do villain origin stories well. [20:58.520 --> 21:00.080] This movie doesn't. [21:00.080 --> 21:01.080] Right. [21:01.080 --> 21:03.520] This movie tells his story because there are, like- [21:03.520 --> 21:05.800] Will you still uncomfortable rooting for him? [21:05.800 --> 21:06.800] Yes. [21:06.800 --> 21:12.640] I was just going to say like in the early stages, like you feel compassion for him, you, you [21:12.640 --> 21:22.440] know, he's, he's rooting on Lily, that her name, the maker, the girl. [21:22.440 --> 21:23.440] No, no, no, no, no. [21:23.440 --> 21:29.720] That was, um, oh my gosh, Kristen, Lucy Gray, Lucy, not Lily, you know, he's, he's doing [21:29.720 --> 21:30.720] his best. [21:30.720 --> 21:33.360] He's needing to save Lucy's life. [21:33.360 --> 21:37.280] They develop a romance together, you know, afterwards, like he goes to, he goes to District [21:37.280 --> 21:42.000] 12 to be with her, like gives all of his money away just so he can go to District 12 to be [21:42.000 --> 21:43.000] with her. [21:43.000 --> 21:47.240] And then you're like, when they finally see each other, like his mom scarf. [21:47.240 --> 21:48.240] Yeah. [21:48.240 --> 21:54.280] Like I, when you like you, you know, when, when he takes the, it's so funny because as I was [21:54.280 --> 21:59.720] watching it, like, and I just want to, I know jumping all over the place, but can I just say [21:59.720 --> 22:04.640] Viola Davis is fucking outstanding in this, where is her nomination? [22:04.640 --> 22:06.080] Where is her nomination? [22:06.080 --> 22:07.080] Is what I want to know. [22:07.080 --> 22:10.760] I thought she's brilliant in this, it took me like a good, like half hour. [22:10.760 --> 22:14.120] I was like, is that Viola Davis? [22:14.120 --> 22:16.440] Because like the makeup is so well done on her. [22:16.440 --> 22:20.040] Like she's, she's so, she's so phenomenal in this movie. [22:20.040 --> 22:22.200] So she's so good. [22:22.200 --> 22:26.160] And it's like there's that whole thing with the snakes, how like they're comforted by like [22:26.160 --> 22:28.040] the sense that they know. [22:28.040 --> 22:32.720] So I'm, as an avid movie viewer, I'm like, oh, well, that's going to come back later. [22:32.720 --> 22:33.720] Yeah. [22:33.720 --> 22:34.720] It has to. [22:34.720 --> 22:38.920] So when you see the whole like the snakes, and she's talking about like going in there, [22:38.920 --> 22:42.720] and then it shows the flashback of like him wiping the tears with the hanky, I'm like, [22:42.720 --> 22:45.000] Oh, well, that's, that's here it is. [22:45.000 --> 22:46.560] This is how it's coming back into play. [22:46.560 --> 22:51.480] And then he puts the hanky with his initials monogrammed on the handkerchief. [22:51.480 --> 22:57.320] Well because I think he was, he was more concerned with saving her than he was with this, how [22:57.320 --> 22:59.080] this is going to affect him. [22:59.080 --> 23:00.080] Yeah. [23:00.080 --> 23:04.440] Like his priorities were in order at that point. [23:04.440 --> 23:12.400] So like it was such an interesting watch to see him go from like this character that you're [23:12.400 --> 23:16.960] rooting for and you're compassionate for and you want to see this romance bud into [23:16.960 --> 23:23.080] this person that you just, you can't stand by the end of this movie. [23:23.080 --> 23:25.680] It's the woods, the scene in the woods. [23:25.680 --> 23:31.480] But it also gives you a great insight into president snow in the hunger games. [23:31.480 --> 23:34.320] And his dislike for District 12. [23:34.320 --> 23:40.240] His dislike for District 12, why he communicates with Katniss through roses through white roses. [23:40.240 --> 23:43.480] Like now we get a lead into that. [23:43.480 --> 23:49.880] I feel like he has a disdain for Katniss alone, purely because of his connection to Lucy. [23:49.880 --> 23:55.000] And you know, the Katniss vegetables that she was like, that's what she called them. [23:55.480 --> 24:00.520] This just gave me, it made me want to go back and rewatch the Hunger Games. [24:00.520 --> 24:01.280] Yeah. [24:01.280 --> 24:04.000] The initial first, the four movies again. [24:04.000 --> 24:05.000] Yeah. [24:05.000 --> 24:09.800] And I also love the fact that it kind of bookends like we see. [24:09.800 --> 24:16.640] We're getting clear glimpses of one of when the hunger games became what we know the hunger [24:16.640 --> 24:17.800] games to be. [24:17.800 --> 24:18.080] Right. [24:18.080 --> 24:19.400] Like it becomes a world. [24:19.400 --> 24:21.040] They were dying out. [24:21.120 --> 24:26.840] Yeah, it becomes like this is the introduction of putting them in front of the media and letting [24:26.840 --> 24:31.240] the media get to know them and the donation system, you know, bringing them in. [24:31.240 --> 24:36.560] That Jason Schwartzman was not the perfect casting for Lucky Flickerman. [24:36.760 --> 24:40.240] He like he is the early increment. [24:40.600 --> 24:46.880] It's so interesting to see that that is what becomes of like Stanley Tucci's. [24:47.000 --> 24:48.640] I know they're not they're different characters. [24:48.640 --> 24:49.080] Right. Right. [24:49.080 --> 24:49.680] Right. [24:49.720 --> 24:57.120] His I bet you he's the baby meeting him was I didn't even think about that. [24:58.240 --> 25:00.080] I didn't even think about that. [25:00.560 --> 25:02.200] Like they have that to adults in a high chair. [25:02.600 --> 25:06.360] That could be his father that Caesar didn't even think about that. [25:06.920 --> 25:08.480] Never even crossed my mind. [25:08.480 --> 25:14.720] But seeing like this interesting weird flamboyance kind of character in what Stanley [25:14.720 --> 25:16.880] Tucci does at the same time. [25:17.640 --> 25:22.560] And then also like the mentoring system, like seeing like this is how the mentors [25:22.560 --> 25:25.720] were and this is what they become like it. [25:25.920 --> 25:29.760] I really want to rewatch the original Hunger Games now. [25:29.760 --> 25:35.960] When when when snow goes into the truck with all of the with all of the [25:35.960 --> 25:42.600] tributes, I was like he's going to get the shit kicked out of him and it almost happens. [25:43.120 --> 25:43.680] Yeah. [25:44.320 --> 25:45.160] How about Reaper? [25:45.160 --> 25:46.600] What did you think about the tributes? [25:47.880 --> 25:50.800] Because I'm really like I loved Reaper. [25:51.680 --> 25:55.040] Reaper is the one that gets strung up when the game starts. [25:55.040 --> 25:55.320] Right. [25:55.520 --> 26:00.520] Reaper is the one that when Dil dies, his brain breaks. [26:00.520 --> 26:04.520] And so he takes the flag off and he covers all of the dead ones. [26:05.040 --> 26:05.560] Oh, yeah. [26:05.560 --> 26:09.920] So like so his death, like when he just accepts all the snakes, [26:09.920 --> 26:12.760] like doesn't move and just falls over. [26:12.760 --> 26:13.200] Yeah. [26:13.200 --> 26:16.120] Like that was a hard that was a rough scene. [26:16.520 --> 26:20.920] Because here's all these survivors, including the little girl and [26:20.920 --> 26:29.200] Reaper who are just taken out, you know, have survived for this long and are just [26:29.200 --> 26:35.680] taken out by the snakes, you know, and it's just I mean, coral, I'm glad she left. [26:35.880 --> 26:40.320] She was the worst me to, but yeah. [26:40.320 --> 26:45.800] But like seeing like seeing all that like it was rough for Lucy to realize that, [26:45.800 --> 26:49.120] you know, the poison she put in the water went to the wrong person. [26:49.400 --> 26:53.840] So now like she knew she was going to be a killer, but now she killed the wrong [26:53.840 --> 26:54.440] person. [26:54.440 --> 26:57.000] So she killed an innocent person. [26:57.000 --> 26:59.240] Like it's well, they're all innocent. [26:59.800 --> 27:01.080] Really, they're all children. [27:01.080 --> 27:05.120] They're all innocent and they're put into an impossible situation, even coral. [27:06.160 --> 27:08.240] Well, yeah, but coral became horrible. [27:08.640 --> 27:11.440] Well, she had a mentor that was also horrible. [27:11.640 --> 27:12.240] This is, yeah. [27:12.280 --> 27:12.720] This is true. [27:12.720 --> 27:13.440] You know what I mean? [27:13.680 --> 27:14.040] Yeah. [27:16.200 --> 27:17.000] It's funny. [27:17.000 --> 27:19.400] Like I was waiting like I knew. [27:20.440 --> 27:28.080] So isn't there there's no real reference to Lucy in the Hunger Games? [27:28.080 --> 27:33.240] I think there's like a quick reference by Hamish in that he mentions there was [27:33.240 --> 27:35.280] another winner from District 12. [27:36.280 --> 27:38.440] Cause I think that's where he's from, isn't it? [27:38.720 --> 27:39.000] Yeah. [27:39.000 --> 27:39.560] Yeah, yeah, yeah. [27:39.680 --> 27:43.080] He was the only winner of District 12 that was alive. [27:43.520 --> 27:43.800] Yeah. [27:43.800 --> 27:48.120] Cause I think he makes mentioned like in quick reference of another person. [27:48.120 --> 27:48.800] I don't remember that. [27:48.800 --> 27:49.800] I'd have to go back. [27:51.360 --> 27:53.360] I think that's what I think that's what I read. [27:53.400 --> 27:54.600] Cause I did read a couple of things. [27:54.760 --> 27:58.280] You know, Katniss was a really good singer, right? [27:58.600 --> 28:00.320] That she got from her dad. [28:00.680 --> 28:05.840] Her dad is the one that told her about the lake and the cabin and the [28:05.840 --> 28:11.440] Covey and Lucy Gray are the only ones that knew about the lake and the cabin [28:11.480 --> 28:12.600] during that time. [28:13.080 --> 28:19.120] Not to mention that they called it Katniss, the plant Katniss and Lucy was such a [28:19.120 --> 28:25.320] good singer that I was under the impression that Lucy Gray was probably [28:26.320 --> 28:30.040] Katniss's grandmother or great grandmother. [28:30.680 --> 28:35.520] When I talked to Brandy last week, she had some really good insight about the [28:35.520 --> 28:42.720] fact that she thinks that Katniss's family was other members of the Covey. [28:42.720 --> 28:46.000] The person that brought up the Katniss bulbs. [28:47.600 --> 28:48.040] Okay. [28:48.040 --> 28:52.240] So the two, so the two people that brought the Katniss bulbs to Lucy, correct. [28:52.280 --> 28:55.000] They could have been Katniss's right family. [28:55.120 --> 28:55.520] Yeah. [28:55.680 --> 28:59.040] So, and that makes sense too, that it would be a member of the Covey. [28:59.120 --> 29:03.200] I just like the linear, you know, suggestion that it's Lucy, especially [29:03.200 --> 29:06.040] since Lucy looked like she was from the seam. [29:06.240 --> 29:11.520] You know, if you look at the description of what Katniss actually looks like in [29:11.520 --> 29:17.640] the books, it's the dark hair with the dark eyes and the olive complexion. [29:17.680 --> 29:21.600] You know, those are, those are known as the seam people, the people that are [29:21.600 --> 29:24.000] from the inner part of District 12. [29:24.360 --> 29:27.560] So I did like it that they had Lucy Gray. [29:27.560 --> 29:29.760] She had that seam look to her. [29:31.800 --> 29:39.040] But what blew my mind was when Brandy was talking to me about what [29:39.120 --> 29:41.520] Coriolanus put in the lake. [29:43.040 --> 29:43.560] Guns. [29:44.720 --> 29:50.800] So there's a theory out there, and I haven't gone back to rewatch yet, that because [29:50.800 --> 29:57.720] Coriolanus so delicately placed the package in the lake, that there is a huge theory [29:57.720 --> 29:59.560] out there that it's Lucy. [29:59.960 --> 30:01.160] It's not big enough to be Lucy. [30:01.920 --> 30:03.400] And you see the gun sticking out. [30:04.000 --> 30:05.800] What if he weighed her down? [30:06.480 --> 30:07.920] It's not big enough to be Lucy. [30:08.080 --> 30:11.680] So there's a theory out there that he killed her and went crazy. [30:12.920 --> 30:18.160] I don't, I don't deny the theory because you never find out what happens to Lucy. [30:19.440 --> 30:21.640] Whatever he's putting in the water is not Lucy. [30:21.640 --> 30:22.320] It's guys. [30:22.680 --> 30:24.720] See, and that's what I thought I haven't rewatched it yet. [30:24.720 --> 30:27.160] So I don't and you've watched it more recently than I have. [30:27.520 --> 30:33.920] I will say that one of my biggest thoughts of the whole story is that Lucy played [30:33.920 --> 30:34.480] snow. [30:36.360 --> 30:39.320] She played him in the arena and she played him out of the arena. [30:39.520 --> 30:42.440] And maybe they had real feelings for each other there in the middle. [30:42.640 --> 30:48.080] But I think that once once the Janus died, I think that was that was it. [30:49.560 --> 30:52.920] Like it was now time for Lucy to find her exit plan. [30:54.400 --> 30:57.760] And so she she was playing snow the whole time. [30:58.120 --> 30:59.600] I think so. [31:00.000 --> 31:00.400] OK. [31:01.240 --> 31:08.040] Because it is, it does seem to be a little bit of a like it doesn't seem like there's [31:08.040 --> 31:15.600] a slow transition into how this all wraps up and that, you know, Lucy walks off. [31:15.960 --> 31:17.880] Coriolanus kind of goes crazy. [31:18.320 --> 31:20.760] It seems to happen almost instantaneously. [31:21.280 --> 31:27.440] So I love that transformation of snow in the in the forest because he is literally [31:27.440 --> 31:29.240] going insane, right? [31:29.560 --> 31:35.560] And I think he's gone and saying from not only Lucy, but from everything that has [31:35.560 --> 31:37.360] happened to him thus far. [31:37.600 --> 31:40.520] I mean, he had a traumatic games experience. [31:40.520 --> 31:46.920] Then he was then he was shipped off to the districts to be a peacekeeper. [31:47.280 --> 31:51.560] Then he was, you know, then he was stuck with Saginas and all of Saginas's [31:51.560 --> 31:55.000] shit that that he had to put on his own back. [31:55.280 --> 31:59.360] And then he was and then he had all the crap that was happening with [31:59.360 --> 32:04.400] Tigris and Grandma back in the capital that he couldn't control because he was [32:04.400 --> 32:05.400] out in District 12. [32:05.720 --> 32:07.240] Then everybody starts dying. [32:07.240 --> 32:10.640] Then Saginas dies because of snow. [32:10.880 --> 32:15.000] And I think snow started to unravel right there in that moment when he was [32:15.000 --> 32:18.320] going through Saginas's things after watching Saginas die. [32:20.080 --> 32:21.160] OK, all right. [32:21.160 --> 32:22.720] I can yeah, I can see that. [32:22.720 --> 32:27.120] Because he, well, I mean, he did go through some of that stuff. [32:27.120 --> 32:28.520] Didn't he go through that stuff twice? [32:29.080 --> 32:32.360] Like he went through that stuff right after Saginas died the first time and [32:32.360 --> 32:36.640] then it's not until he comes back after the whole incident with Lucy that he [32:36.640 --> 32:38.320] really dives into that stuff. [32:38.840 --> 32:42.880] Because when he's taking it out and he's taking it with him, right? [32:42.880 --> 32:48.640] Because he wants to take some stuff to Saginas's parents, but he also gets his [32:48.640 --> 32:54.480] revenge on Dean Highbottom in the end to played. [32:55.320 --> 32:55.960] Brilliantly. [32:55.960 --> 32:58.120] My Peter Dinklage. [32:58.600 --> 33:01.360] I love that Peter Dinklage is just a freaking national. [33:01.360 --> 33:02.680] He's so good. [33:02.680 --> 33:07.480] And you know what's so funny is that everything that that Dean Highbottom [33:07.480 --> 33:11.040] tried to do to snow could have been prevented. [33:11.080 --> 33:14.840] Everything could have been prevented if he had just taken snow under his wing [33:15.680 --> 33:19.080] and taught him how to be humane and taught him that the way that the [33:19.080 --> 33:22.160] games were bad and taught him how to be a human. [33:22.160 --> 33:27.600] But instead he took out all of his anger from his friend out on this poor kid who [33:27.600 --> 33:30.920] turned into the monster that we know as president snow. [33:31.240 --> 33:34.560] Yeah, which you're right because he says in that whole speech at the end [33:34.560 --> 33:37.760] right before Coriolanus like poisons him and take him out. [33:38.040 --> 33:42.040] Like he says, like he was the one that thought the games were a bad idea. [33:42.040 --> 33:43.640] But it was Coriolanus's father. [33:43.640 --> 33:48.840] That was the one that kind of took the idea and ran with it and it was a drunken idea. [33:49.080 --> 33:51.720] Yeah, and took credit for everything. [33:52.640 --> 33:57.520] And yeah, I mean, he could have everything could have gone so differently. [33:58.160 --> 33:59.920] It's so frustrating to watch too. [33:59.920 --> 34:02.800] It's like Romeo and Juliet, you know, like you're just the whole time. [34:02.800 --> 34:05.120] You're like, oh, it's going to be a different ending this time. [34:05.720 --> 34:09.920] Yeah, never a different ending or watching Titanic hoping the boat doesn't sink. [34:09.960 --> 34:10.320] Right. [34:10.320 --> 34:11.760] Exactly. Exactly. [34:11.840 --> 34:13.360] You're just like, you just watch it going. [34:13.360 --> 34:14.480] It's going to be different this time. [34:14.480 --> 34:18.120] It's not Leo is still not going to get on the door big enough for him. [34:18.120 --> 34:20.880] He's still going to think down like we I got it. [34:20.880 --> 34:21.880] I got it. [34:21.880 --> 34:25.120] She's still going to take a jewel that's priceless and throw it back into the water. [34:25.120 --> 34:30.240] Like, you know, can you see though how it could have easily been to movies? [34:31.040 --> 34:32.200] This this movie. [34:32.280 --> 34:32.720] Yeah. [34:32.720 --> 34:33.560] Well, that was the thing. [34:33.560 --> 34:38.040] So when I was watching it, when I first started watching it and it starts off [34:38.040 --> 34:40.160] with chapter one or part one. [34:40.160 --> 34:44.120] Yeah, I was like, it's just going to be like two or three movies and then [34:44.120 --> 34:48.600] now they get through all three parts in over the movie because it is almost two [34:48.600 --> 34:50.000] hours and 40 minutes long. [34:50.480 --> 34:50.840] Yeah. [34:51.400 --> 34:52.920] And it's still to me not long enough. [34:53.120 --> 34:53.720] It's well. [34:53.720 --> 34:57.760] And that's the thing like when I when I saw the running time, I was like, first [34:57.760 --> 35:00.800] off, I was like, crap, I should have started this earlier because I didn't [35:00.800 --> 35:02.640] start it until like 11 o'clock at night last night. [35:02.720 --> 35:03.240] Whoops. [35:03.480 --> 35:09.320] And yeah, but even then when I got to the end of it, I was like, all right, that didn't [35:09.320 --> 35:10.800] feel like two hours and 40 minutes. [35:10.800 --> 35:12.040] The music is awesome. [35:13.280 --> 35:19.240] Even the stuff for Rachel Ziegler is I kind of understand what you're, I kind [35:19.240 --> 35:23.080] of understand where you're coming from now with being upset that some of the [35:23.080 --> 35:26.840] stuff didn't get nominated in the eye. [35:26.840 --> 35:30.360] Like it got snubbed because some of the music is really good. [35:30.560 --> 35:31.760] Really good. [35:32.560 --> 35:36.480] And then I wasn't when the snakes are overtaking her and she's singing the whole [35:36.480 --> 35:37.000] time. [35:37.440 --> 35:39.640] That part was awesome. [35:39.960 --> 35:40.240] Yeah. [35:40.240 --> 35:45.360] And then it shows and then it shows the camera view and it like it's her [35:45.360 --> 35:49.160] with just covered with the snakes like her staring at the camera. [35:49.200 --> 35:53.040] I was like, the only thing that would have made that seem more badass is if she [35:53.040 --> 35:58.040] stood up, yes, and was just covered with the snakes. [35:58.040 --> 36:02.280] Like that would have made it, that would have just taken it to another level of [36:02.280 --> 36:04.640] badass, but it was already badass as it was. [36:04.640 --> 36:05.560] So good. [36:05.800 --> 36:11.440] So, so a question that I have, because it I missed it if this is the case. [36:12.560 --> 36:15.440] Um, what's the reporter's name again? [36:15.520 --> 36:16.560] Jason Schwartzman's character. [36:16.560 --> 36:17.560] Lucky Flickerman. [36:17.720 --> 36:18.560] Lucky Flickerman. [36:19.400 --> 36:21.320] Did he predict Lucy to win? [36:21.880 --> 36:23.480] No, of course he didn't. [36:23.480 --> 36:25.560] He just, you know, oh, me too. [36:25.560 --> 36:26.760] I thought that too. [36:26.760 --> 36:30.400] You know, he tears it up and then it looks like there's birds flying out of it. [36:30.400 --> 36:31.440] Cause she's a songbird. [36:31.800 --> 36:32.280] Yeah. [36:32.360 --> 36:34.640] So that's what made me think like he did predict it. [36:35.800 --> 36:37.240] So I don't, I don't know. [36:37.640 --> 36:42.000] My guess is that he had my guess is that everybody had their money on Reaper. [36:42.800 --> 36:43.440] Probably. [36:44.320 --> 36:46.240] I would have put my money on Reaper. [36:47.360 --> 36:47.640] Yeah. [36:47.640 --> 36:48.960] Not the tuberculosis chick. [36:49.520 --> 36:50.400] I'll do. [36:50.920 --> 36:54.440] I don't remember the names of only thing that I haven't seen it 50 times since you [36:54.440 --> 36:56.440] had short spent lucky Flickerman. [36:56.440 --> 36:59.280] Her name was a dill, but he kept calling her ill dill. [37:02.840 --> 37:05.480] I was kind of like, this is just me in the way. [37:05.720 --> 37:07.160] My brain goes with prequels. [37:07.160 --> 37:10.160] I was kind of hoping to get references to some other characters. [37:10.480 --> 37:14.360] Like I was hoping maybe we'd meet like a young Hamish or. [37:15.000 --> 37:22.240] Well, this was the 10th Hunger Games and we see Katniss in the 74th Hunger Games. [37:22.240 --> 37:24.240] So Hamish would not have been alive. [37:24.280 --> 37:25.080] Oh, yeah, you're right. [37:25.080 --> 37:25.800] It wasn't born yet. [37:25.800 --> 37:28.960] The games right before the year before. [37:29.240 --> 37:31.400] Do you remember mags in? [37:31.560 --> 37:34.120] So this was the year before mags is games. [37:34.600 --> 37:36.800] OK, yeah, I know it was like 60 years before. [37:37.760 --> 37:38.120] Right. [37:38.120 --> 37:46.600] So mags is games 64, 64 years was the games that they had the like [37:46.600 --> 37:48.880] flesh eating piranhas or something like that. [37:48.880 --> 37:53.720] And that's what goal is working on at the end when Corio comes back. [37:54.720 --> 37:55.880] Got you. [37:56.240 --> 38:03.880] That OK, I like that tie in and then the bow that that Lucy does when she [38:03.880 --> 38:04.880] at the reaping. [38:04.880 --> 38:09.040] It's got this is bow is bow and she did that unscripted and improvised [38:09.040 --> 38:10.600] to connect the two characters. [38:12.400 --> 38:15.680] Lucky Flickerman was, of course, Caesar Flickerman's tie in. [38:16.400 --> 38:20.200] There was Dean Highbottom Highbottom. [38:20.520 --> 38:22.000] So wait, they are related? [38:22.440 --> 38:23.440] Yes. [38:23.760 --> 38:25.960] Oh, his name is Caesar Flickerman. [38:26.040 --> 38:28.000] I didn't know that was Caesar's last name. [38:28.040 --> 38:31.480] Yes, I probably did know it and I forgot it. [38:31.800 --> 38:32.320] Yeah. [38:32.320 --> 38:33.040] So you're right. [38:33.040 --> 38:34.680] That probably was the baby. [38:34.720 --> 38:35.480] Right. [38:35.480 --> 38:37.360] And then at least the heavens. [38:37.360 --> 38:40.680] The brand was a one of the students, one of the mentors students [38:40.680 --> 38:43.520] was a heavens be there. [38:43.520 --> 38:45.840] Well, I mean, there were there were names everywhere. [38:45.840 --> 38:47.320] So there's a lot of tie ins. [38:47.320 --> 38:50.440] A bunch of tie ins, a bunch of tie ins. [38:50.640 --> 38:55.840] But again, I've seen the movie a lot and I've read the books a lot. [38:55.840 --> 38:59.920] I've seen the original movies a lot like I'm a Hunger Games door. [38:59.920 --> 39:03.960] How, how close is the book to the movie? [39:04.320 --> 39:10.320] For only doing one movie from this huge book, the adaptation is phenomenal. [39:10.760 --> 39:11.920] OK. Yeah. [39:11.920 --> 39:14.480] That's good to know because I might read, I might read the book. [39:14.480 --> 39:15.800] Read the book. [39:15.800 --> 39:20.720] The book is so good and it gives you, of course, extra information. [39:21.320 --> 39:26.600] But you'll see, at least to me, this was a really good adaptation. [39:27.000 --> 39:29.640] I wish that they would have made it into two movies. [39:30.000 --> 39:34.720] Like the games for one movie and then the district 12 stuff at the end. [39:35.280 --> 39:38.960] Yeah, because the games ends a little over halfway through the movie. [39:38.960 --> 39:41.360] It's two completely different stories. [39:41.360 --> 39:42.360] Yeah. [39:42.680 --> 39:44.640] It could have been two movies. [39:44.640 --> 39:48.080] Well, you know, to end the movies with the games with like Lucy [39:48.080 --> 39:53.560] winning with the snakes, all like the snakes all over her, like that, that ending, [39:53.560 --> 39:57.560] I would have put a kin to is it? [39:57.560 --> 39:58.640] No, it's not Mockingjay. [39:58.640 --> 40:01.240] It's what's the second Hunger Games movie? [40:01.240 --> 40:01.880] Catching fire. [40:01.880 --> 40:02.680] Catching fire. [40:02.680 --> 40:07.040] It would have been to the end of catching fire to me, that final scene [40:07.040 --> 40:10.880] with Katniss on the table, realizing that everybody is dead. [40:11.000 --> 40:11.400] Yeah. [40:11.400 --> 40:18.200] And like how she goes from like sad to piss off right before it fades the black. [40:18.320 --> 40:21.120] See, I remember, I remember being in theaters watching [40:21.120 --> 40:24.920] Catch and Fire with a bunch of friends and like watching that final scene [40:24.920 --> 40:28.200] and turning to a friend of mine and be like, Oh, she's pissed. [40:28.240 --> 40:30.000] Yeah, she was. [40:30.240 --> 40:31.920] She was Jennifer Lawrence is incredible. [40:33.720 --> 40:35.840] See, I and I thought the same thing. [40:35.840 --> 40:39.720] Like at the very end, it would have been Dean Highbottom telling Corio [40:39.720 --> 40:46.440] that he's been banished to District 12 and, you know, having the medicine or the [40:46.440 --> 40:51.880] powder, powder compact and the washcloth out there, just like when [40:51.880 --> 40:56.680] Seneca Crane had the night lockberries at the end, and they locked them in the room, [40:56.680 --> 40:58.160] you know, like just all [40:58.160 --> 41:01.120] of that coming around and and is Lucy alive? [41:01.160 --> 41:02.000] Is she dead? [41:02.000 --> 41:03.280] What did Highbottom do? [41:03.280 --> 41:06.640] Like if you just end it right there, it would have been perfect. [41:06.800 --> 41:08.560] Yeah, I can see that. [41:09.000 --> 41:15.320] Yeah, because it does kind of it does kind of ruin a little bit of the mystery to end it. [41:15.320 --> 41:19.880] Like wondering what happened to Lucy in the middle of the movie, because you know, [41:19.880 --> 41:22.120] you still have another hour left. [41:22.640 --> 41:23.960] You know, she's not dead. [41:24.200 --> 41:24.480] Right. [41:24.480 --> 41:26.600] You have a whole other story to tell. [41:26.840 --> 41:27.200] Yeah. [41:27.440 --> 41:30.000] And Sajanis was so good. [41:30.000 --> 41:31.400] Like, I don't know. [41:31.400 --> 41:34.760] I would have loved to have seen more Sajanis, you know, [41:35.480 --> 41:37.960] I know we're spending a lot more time on the Hunger Games than we did on [41:37.960 --> 41:38.440] the Netherlands. [41:38.440 --> 41:43.840] And no, I fully expected it this episode because I know your love for this movie. [41:43.840 --> 41:45.920] I love this movie so much. [41:45.920 --> 41:46.640] It's my favorite. [41:46.640 --> 41:48.040] It's my favorite of. [41:48.960 --> 41:50.760] It's my favorite of all the movies. [41:51.480 --> 41:53.680] It's my favorite book of all the books. [41:54.240 --> 41:57.560] And I was so resistant to this book. [41:58.000 --> 42:01.760] I did not want a prequel on Snow. [42:01.760 --> 42:03.160] I felt like I don't care. [42:03.160 --> 42:04.120] I don't need to know. [42:04.120 --> 42:05.600] I don't need to humanize him. [42:05.600 --> 42:09.080] He's a turd bucket, but holy shit. [42:09.160 --> 42:10.320] Do I love this movie? [42:10.320 --> 42:15.560] Yeah, it makes me, like I said, I'm planned to not only does it make me want to, [42:15.560 --> 42:21.000] I plan to rewatch the other, the other four Hunger Games movies because I want [42:21.000 --> 42:23.200] to pick up on a lot of those connections. [42:23.200 --> 42:32.920] And I want to see if or how this changes my view of snow in these, in these other [42:32.920 --> 42:33.440] movies. [42:33.480 --> 42:34.720] Yeah, yeah, yeah. [42:35.240 --> 42:41.960] There's a lot, you know, my daughter, Dani, she is getting really observant. [42:41.960 --> 42:45.760] And I think it's because, you know, she watches television with me all the time. [42:45.800 --> 42:51.800] I have podcast brain, but her observations and her analysis of just everything, you [42:51.800 --> 42:56.040] can have some great conversations with her and talking to her about ballads. [42:56.040 --> 43:01.440] After, after we watched it a few times, we just had these amazing conversations [43:01.440 --> 43:03.800] about like, what do we think about Lucy? [43:03.800 --> 43:07.640] And when do we think that she was like, that she caught on to him? [43:07.640 --> 43:12.400] And just because there's so many different clues that maybe Lucy's not all. [43:12.680 --> 43:18.680] She was saying that she was, especially when her ex-boyfriend and her seem to be [43:18.680 --> 43:22.520] in cahoots with each other about whatever they were planning as a rebellion attack. [43:22.840 --> 43:24.920] And Corio wasn't involved in that. [43:25.160 --> 43:31.520] And, and the ex-boyfriend is trying to convince the mayor's daughter, you know, no, no, no, [43:31.520 --> 43:33.280] she's with us, everything's okay. [43:33.600 --> 43:37.800] But at the same time, Corio was really confused and Lucy looked like she'd been caught. [43:38.120 --> 43:43.880] And that whole scene to me just felt like it was a giant foreshadowing that Lucy was [43:43.880 --> 43:46.400] just not who she was saying that she was. [43:46.920 --> 43:47.720] Yeah. [43:47.720 --> 43:48.720] Yeah. [43:48.720 --> 43:52.320] How long do you think it'll be before you and Danny are doing a podcast together? [43:53.760 --> 43:55.040] Oh, I don't know. [43:55.040 --> 43:55.720] That would be fun. [43:55.720 --> 43:58.920] I know that she wanted to do one for Percy Jackson, for sure. [43:59.680 --> 44:01.400] You should do one with her at some point. [44:01.400 --> 44:03.240] It would be fun if I had the time right now. [44:05.000 --> 44:06.560] Yeah, Rachel Ziegler was another one. [44:06.560 --> 44:08.360] I wasn't too familiar with. [44:08.800 --> 44:10.000] She was in what's story. [44:10.000 --> 44:11.920] She was what you haven't seen yet. [44:11.920 --> 44:12.600] Me neither. [44:12.600 --> 44:14.440] I really want to see it. [44:14.440 --> 44:20.720] But I also know she's in, I think, the second Shazam movie, which I haven't seen that yet either. [44:21.960 --> 44:24.000] Actually, those are the only three movies she's done. [44:25.160 --> 44:26.960] She probably is more of a singer. [44:27.880 --> 44:28.640] She did. [44:28.640 --> 44:30.400] Yeah, she's done three movies. [44:30.400 --> 44:32.640] She's did West Side and they're big ones. [44:32.640 --> 44:38.240] She did West Side Story, Shazam, Fury of the Gods, and The Hunger Games for only having done three [44:38.240 --> 44:40.960] movies and those are the three movies you've done. [44:41.680 --> 44:43.360] Yeah, that's frickin. [44:43.600 --> 44:45.040] And she's playing Snow White. [44:45.360 --> 44:46.320] Yeah, she is. [44:46.320 --> 44:46.760] Yeah. [44:46.760 --> 44:48.160] In an upcoming Snow White movie. [44:48.160 --> 44:50.000] Yeah, her career is about to explode. [44:50.640 --> 44:51.400] Yeah, it's pretty. [44:51.880 --> 44:52.880] It's already there. [44:53.520 --> 45:00.760] But I really wish that this movie would have gotten nominations for Viola Davis for the music [45:00.960 --> 45:02.120] and for the costuming. [45:03.120 --> 45:09.720] I'm like really pissed off that it wasn't even considered because this movie was so well done [45:10.360 --> 45:16.600] and it was well done in really interesting ways and it just got pushed to the side, [45:16.600 --> 45:18.040] especially musically. [45:18.200 --> 45:25.840] I don't think we needed two frickin Barbie songs to be nominated and not have ballads even come close. [45:26.160 --> 45:34.040] Can I just tell you, I was in the supermarket last night and the pink song from Barbie came on. [45:34.040 --> 45:35.040] Pink. [45:35.040 --> 45:38.720] Not pink, not the artist pink, like the title of the song. [45:38.720 --> 45:40.120] It's about the color pink. [45:41.040 --> 45:42.680] I don't think it's one of the ones nominated. [45:42.680 --> 45:43.600] Thank God. [45:44.040 --> 45:48.960] But I heard it over the speaker in the supermarket and I'm like, I'm really bummed. [45:48.960 --> 45:49.960] I know where this is from. [45:53.440 --> 45:54.640] I don't know the words to it. [45:54.640 --> 45:57.760] So I'm not singing along, but I know exactly where this song is from. [45:57.840 --> 45:58.600] Yeah. [45:58.600 --> 46:00.400] Why is it playing in the supermarket? [46:01.160 --> 46:05.600] But no, I really enjoyed the ballot of songbirds and snakes. [46:05.600 --> 46:08.680] I thought I thought Peter Dinklage was fantastic. [46:08.960 --> 46:10.680] I thought the storytelling was great. [46:11.840 --> 46:13.040] I love Davis. [46:13.040 --> 46:15.520] Viola Davis is a fucking phenomenon. [46:15.520 --> 46:19.320] You know what, how they, I don't know how much digging you did on this movie, [46:19.320 --> 46:22.520] but the reason why they even thought of Viola Davis to play Dr. [46:22.520 --> 46:31.160] Gall is because somebody on the internet put up this poster of the movie, The Help with Viola Davis [46:31.160 --> 46:36.280] in like a dark, like a darkish room just staring out of a window. [46:36.680 --> 46:43.160] And they put like a fake horror title at the bottom instead of The Help to lip to, [46:43.160 --> 46:45.520] because it looked like she was so menacing. [46:45.920 --> 46:49.520] And the person that was casting this movie or the director or something like that, [46:49.520 --> 46:56.000] I forget who exactly it was, said that that one fake movie poster made him think [46:56.320 --> 46:57.000] that's Dr. [46:57.000 --> 46:57.840] Gall. [46:57.840 --> 46:59.480] Oh, all right. [47:00.440 --> 47:03.720] That's, that's an interesting way to think of it, but it worked. [47:03.720 --> 47:04.360] It worked. [47:04.360 --> 47:06.000] Everything she does is phenomenal. [47:06.000 --> 47:06.840] Like everything. [47:06.840 --> 47:08.720] It doesn't matter what she does. [47:08.720 --> 47:10.400] I think she's got Egot. [47:10.400 --> 47:11.440] I think she's Egot. [47:14.040 --> 47:14.600] Let's see. [47:14.600 --> 47:17.120] She, Emmy, let's see. [47:17.120 --> 47:19.040] She's got an Oscar, obviously. [47:21.600 --> 47:25.520] She might be, let's see, Oscar nominated performances in The Help Oscar winning [47:25.520 --> 47:31.760] performance, Infenses won the Emmy Award for Outstanding Performance for how to [47:31.760 --> 47:32.920] get away with murder. [47:36.000 --> 47:36.600] I don't know. [47:36.600 --> 47:37.880] I don't see anything else. [47:38.920 --> 47:42.320] Let's see list of list of Egot. [47:42.320 --> 47:44.560] You just say Viola Davis, Egot. [47:47.000 --> 47:48.000] Oh, she is a Viola. [47:48.000 --> 47:49.400] She, she is Viola Davis. [47:49.920 --> 47:54.240] She is an Egot winner as of this year, as of 2023. [47:54.640 --> 47:56.080] Yeah, I thought so. [47:56.640 --> 47:59.400] She won the Grammy for in this in 2023. [47:59.400 --> 48:00.600] That made her the Egot winner. [48:01.680 --> 48:02.480] Holy shit. [48:02.720 --> 48:03.120] Yeah. [48:03.960 --> 48:08.120] There's a lot of interesting Mel Brooks is an Egot winner. [48:08.120 --> 48:09.920] Oh, we're going down it. [48:09.920 --> 48:10.920] I love that. [48:10.920 --> 48:11.920] I love that. [48:11.920 --> 48:14.400] Did Egot come from 30 Rock? [48:14.400 --> 48:17.160] No, because I don't know. [48:17.160 --> 48:20.200] Because that's the first time I heard that term was. [48:20.200 --> 48:23.200] Yeah, I think that's just, that's just the first time. [48:23.200 --> 48:28.400] No, the Egot Acrodism was coined by actor Philip Michael Thomas in late 1984. [48:28.400 --> 48:29.400] Okay. [48:29.400 --> 48:30.400] Yeah. [48:30.400 --> 48:31.400] It's been, it's been around for a while. [48:31.400 --> 48:37.200] I think, yeah, see the acronym gained wider recognition following a 2009 episode of 30 Rock. [48:37.200 --> 48:46.160] I mean, he had that Egot necklace on, but yeah, he, uh, whoopi Goldberg and my end, Mel Brooks [48:46.160 --> 48:47.400] are both Egot winners. [48:47.400 --> 48:48.600] I knew whoopi was. [48:50.000 --> 48:52.400] Elton John is an Egot winner now too. [48:52.400 --> 48:54.560] That makes sense because of Rocket Man. [48:55.400 --> 48:57.400] He won an Emmy and two. [48:57.400 --> 48:58.400] Rocket Man. [48:58.400 --> 49:01.320] He won an Emmy in 2024. [49:01.320 --> 49:02.320] He won a Grammy. [49:02.320 --> 49:04.000] What do you win his Tony for? [49:04.000 --> 49:05.000] Tony. [49:05.000 --> 49:07.120] Oh, Lion King, probably. [49:07.120 --> 49:11.400] Probably the Lion King, yep. [49:11.400 --> 49:13.360] Non-competitive Egot winners. [49:13.360 --> 49:14.360] What does that mean? [49:14.360 --> 49:15.360] I don't know. [49:15.360 --> 49:17.600] Let's not go down this rabbit hole. [49:17.600 --> 49:19.920] Six additional artists have received all four awards. [49:19.920 --> 49:26.400] The one was bestowed, oh, for an honorary, um, yeah, okay, that's whatever it is. [49:26.400 --> 49:30.520] Um, let's give each other homework for the next episode. [49:31.080 --> 49:33.520] Um, do you want me to give you mine first? [49:33.960 --> 49:34.800] Sure. [49:34.800 --> 49:35.200] Okay. [49:35.200 --> 49:38.560] So this is a movie that I have mentioned to you a number of times. [49:38.720 --> 49:41.280] And it's been on the list for a while and I was going to wait a little bit, but [49:41.280 --> 49:47.520] after knowing your love for action and heist movies and I'm sticking with the [49:47.520 --> 49:50.440] Eliza Gonzalez theme because she is in this movie as well. [49:51.000 --> 49:54.880] Um, I am giving you and I'm, I'm, this is high praise. [49:54.880 --> 49:58.480] This is one of my top 10 favorite movies of all time. [49:58.520 --> 49:59.880] Well, dear God, I hope I like it. [50:00.680 --> 50:05.440] I know I'm taking a real risk in giving you this one. [50:05.560 --> 50:06.800] I think you're going to love it. [50:06.840 --> 50:08.360] That's how I felt with life from Baghdad. [50:08.360 --> 50:09.040] So I get it. [50:10.080 --> 50:11.640] And I really like life from Baghdad. [50:11.640 --> 50:12.480] Cause it's really good. [50:12.960 --> 50:16.120] Um, this is a 2017 movie. [50:16.840 --> 50:18.480] I'm giving you baby driver. [50:18.760 --> 50:19.720] Oh, yay. [50:19.720 --> 50:21.200] I've wanted to see that too. [50:21.200 --> 50:22.160] So I'm excited. [50:22.480 --> 50:25.880] It's rough because of the Kevin Spacey aspect of it. [50:26.280 --> 50:30.640] But if you, if you know, just put aside everything that Spacey does, this is a [50:31.920 --> 50:34.800] cause I, I'm giving you this movie one because, like I said, it's [50:34.800 --> 50:36.400] a tear and eggerton, isn't it? [50:36.800 --> 50:37.120] Aaron. [50:37.120 --> 50:37.400] Yeah. [50:37.400 --> 50:37.880] Yeah. [50:38.120 --> 50:38.320] Um, [50:38.320 --> 50:39.680] whatever, however you say his name. [50:39.720 --> 50:42.240] No, no, no, no, it's, uh, Ansel Elgort. [50:42.440 --> 50:43.160] That's okay. [50:43.360 --> 50:43.760] Got it. [50:44.240 --> 50:49.640] But it's Ansel Elgort, John Bernthal, Eliza Gonzalez, John Hamm. [50:49.640 --> 50:50.560] No, it stopped. [50:50.560 --> 50:51.000] You had me. [50:52.160 --> 50:53.000] You had me at Bernthal. [50:53.040 --> 50:53.720] Just say that. [50:53.960 --> 50:54.320] Okay. [50:54.880 --> 50:55.440] It is. [50:55.680 --> 50:58.840] It's in my top 10 favorite films all of all time. [50:59.360 --> 51:03.400] And I'm doing it because I haven't, because I want you to see it. [51:03.400 --> 51:05.720] And two, I haven't watched it in a while. [51:06.080 --> 51:06.280] Yeah. [51:06.280 --> 51:08.120] So this gives me another reason to rewatch it. [51:08.280 --> 51:12.560] Well, I got really excited because I had the flu, uh, the week after we gave [51:12.560 --> 51:13.880] each other our last assignment. [51:13.880 --> 51:16.400] So I watched ambulance and ballads in the same day. [51:18.000 --> 51:18.680] I watched. [51:19.760 --> 51:20.680] I did too. [51:20.920 --> 51:23.040] Actually, I watched ambulance and ballad. [51:23.080 --> 51:24.560] No, I watched them two days apart. [51:24.560 --> 51:25.480] I watched them a day apart. [51:26.040 --> 51:26.400] I watch. [51:26.400 --> 51:28.000] I was in bed dying. [51:28.040 --> 51:30.360] So I was like, let's watch movies. [51:30.920 --> 51:32.320] Yeah, I get it. [51:32.560 --> 51:37.160] But I watched, um, yeah, I watched, uh, [51:39.240 --> 51:41.600] ambulance one day and then ballad the next. [51:45.080 --> 51:45.840] Perfect. [51:46.440 --> 51:46.760] Okay. [51:46.760 --> 51:51.720] So your assignment is, um, [51:52.800 --> 51:56.520] so the whole time I was watching ambulance, I was thinking about all the Jake [51:56.520 --> 51:58.560] Jilling Hall movies that I actually love. [51:59.040 --> 51:59.480] Okay. [51:59.640 --> 52:06.040] Um, and my favorite Jake Jilling Hall movie is Zodiac, which I haven't seen, [52:06.120 --> 52:08.440] which is crazy to me because it's so good. [52:08.760 --> 52:11.400] So I am giving you Zodiac. [52:11.840 --> 52:16.680] Um, yeah, I remember it took me a couple tries to watch this movie. [52:16.680 --> 52:20.480] Not because I didn't like it, but because, like I always had to go somewhere, you [52:20.480 --> 52:23.040] know, it just became one of those movies where I was like, I would start it. [52:23.040 --> 52:26.760] And I'm like, for fuck's sake, I can't even end, I can't even watch this movie. [52:27.240 --> 52:31.880] And then I finally sat down and I watched the whole thing and it's awesome. [52:32.520 --> 52:32.880] All right. [52:32.880 --> 52:35.200] So yeah, it's, so I hope that you like it. [52:35.240 --> 52:38.520] I really, really, really like this movie a lot. [52:39.000 --> 52:42.080] Um, so I hope that you also like it. [52:42.600 --> 52:45.880] And I, I know you and I kind of do always by David Fincher. [52:46.840 --> 52:48.200] Yeah, Zodiac's amazing. [52:48.560 --> 52:48.960] Okay. [52:49.120 --> 52:49.360] Yeah. [52:49.360 --> 52:53.680] I'm just, I'm so anytime you give me a movie, I don't watch the trailer because I don't [52:53.680 --> 52:55.800] want, I want to go into it completely blind. [52:56.120 --> 52:59.360] I did just however see that it's Jake Jilling Hall, Robert Downey, Jr. [52:59.360 --> 53:00.200] and Mark Ruffalo. [53:00.360 --> 53:00.600] Yeah. [53:00.960 --> 53:03.440] So I'm already already on board. [53:03.680 --> 53:03.960] Yeah. [53:04.160 --> 53:05.120] Already on board. [53:05.200 --> 53:05.480] Yeah. [53:05.520 --> 53:06.440] You'll love it. [53:06.440 --> 53:07.080] You'll love it. [53:07.080 --> 53:08.640] It's, it'll be one of those movies. [53:08.640 --> 53:10.600] Like why didn't I already see this movie? [53:12.120 --> 53:12.720] I'm wondering. [53:12.720 --> 53:14.320] I don't even think I have this on my server. [53:14.320 --> 53:15.520] I think I have to add this. [53:15.600 --> 53:21.720] Oh, it's, um, it's definitely, it's got independent film vibes to it, you know. [53:21.760 --> 53:22.200] That's fine. [53:22.200 --> 53:24.080] I think some of the best movies have those vibes. [53:24.080 --> 53:24.520] Yeah. [53:24.920 --> 53:28.960] Um, and the story just takes you on a little journey. [53:29.400 --> 53:33.520] And after, after you watch the movie, watch Jake Jilling Hall videos of him being [53:33.560 --> 53:40.240] interviewed like on, like his press junket for this movie because he, he got real [53:40.240 --> 53:41.600] nerdy about this movie. [53:41.600 --> 53:44.600] Like I think he really loved being in this movie. [53:45.080 --> 53:45.560] OK. [53:47.040 --> 53:47.560] All right. [53:47.560 --> 53:51.400] So to me, this was the movie where I was like, wow, Jake Jilling Hall can act. [53:52.520 --> 53:52.960] All right. [53:53.440 --> 53:55.080] I'm, I'm, I'm intrigued now. [53:55.120 --> 53:56.200] I'm really intrigued. [53:56.200 --> 53:58.520] I'm, and I really did like him an ambulance. [53:58.520 --> 54:02.680] And I thought that he played like, I mean, he's so talented. [54:02.680 --> 54:03.800] He can play anything. [54:03.800 --> 54:05.320] Like I, I know this about him. [54:05.320 --> 54:07.880] Donnie Darko is one of my all time favorite movies. [54:09.120 --> 54:11.120] I just don't like him as a bad guy. [54:11.520 --> 54:16.400] It's really hard to think about the fact that because I'm looking at some, [54:16.400 --> 54:21.280] I'm looking at Jake Jilling Hall's IMDB right now and to think that he was [54:21.280 --> 54:22.840] initially the bubble boy. [54:23.640 --> 54:24.640] Oh my gosh. [54:27.400 --> 54:29.840] Which happened after Donnie Darko. [54:30.600 --> 54:35.920] Um, well, he needed, he needed to wash Donnie Darko out of, out of his hair. [54:35.960 --> 54:41.080] You know, such a dirty like, like October sky is a great movie. [54:42.120 --> 54:44.600] Day after tomorrow is fun for what it is. [54:44.600 --> 54:45.960] I love day after tomorrow. [54:45.960 --> 54:47.600] Don't you dare. [54:47.600 --> 54:48.880] Shut on that movie. [54:49.320 --> 54:52.560] Um, Jarhead is a great movie. [54:53.080 --> 54:55.080] That's an intense movie source. [54:55.080 --> 54:56.960] End of watch is a great movie. [54:57.400 --> 54:59.600] Prisoners is fucking fantastic. [55:00.240 --> 55:01.600] That's what Jackman, right? [55:01.600 --> 55:02.560] With you, Jackman. [55:02.680 --> 55:04.440] Yeah, that movie's intense. [55:04.440 --> 55:06.400] That movie's intense, but it's great. [55:07.280 --> 55:08.320] Um, yeah. [55:08.320 --> 55:11.280] End of watch Nightcrawler is a great movie. [55:12.320 --> 55:14.640] I never saw South, I never saw Everest. [55:16.480 --> 55:18.240] Or life or stronger. [55:18.600 --> 55:20.280] Some of his later stuff I haven't seen yet. [55:20.280 --> 55:23.360] Stronger is the one about the Boston bombing, isn't it? [55:23.680 --> 55:24.160] Yes. [55:24.440 --> 55:25.360] He was a runner. [55:27.120 --> 55:28.000] Uh, yes. [55:28.200 --> 55:28.640] Yeah. [55:28.640 --> 55:28.920] Yeah. [55:28.920 --> 55:29.640] I want to see that. [55:29.800 --> 55:31.920] He is such a good actor. [55:31.920 --> 55:35.920] And I think he's, he's got like the Matt Damon curse. [55:36.160 --> 55:40.480] He's so freaking good that we just expect it and we don't talk about it. [55:40.680 --> 55:43.640] I'll tell you what's another really good one that I just saw on the list. [55:43.640 --> 55:45.280] And I, I forgot about this one. [55:45.800 --> 55:48.640] Um, and I'll, I'll just throw this one out there. [55:48.640 --> 55:50.600] I won't add it to the list of movies to give you eventually. [55:50.600 --> 55:53.200] Cause I think your love for him, you should watch it on your own. [55:53.560 --> 55:56.880] There's a movie that came out on Netflix in 2021 called the guilty [55:57.360 --> 56:00.480] where he is a 911 operator. [56:00.760 --> 56:05.760] Oh, and that's all the movie is the entire movie takes place with him. [56:06.240 --> 56:10.240] Answering this particular call from the help desk. [56:10.240 --> 56:11.720] He's a 911 dispatcher. [56:12.000 --> 56:12.840] Oh, yeah. [56:12.840 --> 56:13.760] I'm going to watch that. [56:14.000 --> 56:14.760] How long is it? [56:15.200 --> 56:16.400] Uh, hour and a half. [56:16.680 --> 56:17.440] Oh, I love it. [56:17.440 --> 56:18.000] It's not a long. [56:18.000 --> 56:18.080] It's not a long. [56:18.080 --> 56:19.200] Yeah. [56:19.400 --> 56:20.680] It's not a long movie. [56:21.040 --> 56:23.200] Um, he's, he's like a police officer who is [56:23.200 --> 56:25.280] demoted to be a dispatcher at 911. [56:25.520 --> 56:25.960] I love it. [56:25.960 --> 56:28.840] He takes, he takes a phone call from a woman who's been kidnapped. [56:29.080 --> 56:29.720] I love it. [56:30.040 --> 56:31.480] It's, it's actually really good. [56:31.480 --> 56:32.280] I really liked it. [56:32.520 --> 56:32.800] Yeah. [56:32.800 --> 56:33.080] No. [56:33.160 --> 56:34.280] Well, what was it? [56:34.280 --> 56:35.400] There's one movie. [56:35.400 --> 56:36.600] There's one episode. [56:36.600 --> 56:43.720] I think it's of, I don't know if it's CSI or if it's SVU, one of them where they [56:43.720 --> 56:49.200] have a phone call from a little girl on 911 and they're trying to find her [56:49.200 --> 56:51.320] and save her mom the whole time. [56:52.760 --> 56:54.360] I just got done rewatching CSI. [56:54.360 --> 56:57.920] I can't remember, but it was 15 frickin seasons of episodes. [56:57.920 --> 56:59.760] So I can't remember if it's CSI or not. [57:00.800 --> 57:01.120] I don't know. [57:01.120 --> 57:04.640] It sounds like listening to this knows what, what I'm talking about. [57:05.240 --> 57:06.200] It's a really good. [57:06.240 --> 57:06.800] Oh, nope. [57:06.800 --> 57:07.320] Nevermind. [57:07.360 --> 57:07.840] I'm wrong. [57:07.880 --> 57:08.800] It was Grey's Anatomy. [57:15.680 --> 57:18.880] Cause they're just cause that shows just like CSI. [57:26.320 --> 57:28.560] Oh, they can't all be winners, Ben. [57:29.320 --> 57:31.920] I can't remember if it was CSI or law and order. [57:31.960 --> 57:32.640] Oh, no, wait. [57:32.640 --> 57:33.400] It was Parks and Rec. [57:35.480 --> 57:36.000] So. [57:38.960 --> 57:40.440] Anyways, that episode is really good. [57:42.400 --> 57:43.000] Got you. [57:44.160 --> 57:45.160] Oh my God. [57:45.200 --> 57:47.640] And now I'm even thinking maybe I'm wrong. [57:47.720 --> 57:49.640] No, I think who cares. [57:50.480 --> 57:51.360] Baby driver. [57:51.920 --> 57:53.960] So yeah, so you have baby driver. [57:54.000 --> 57:55.200] I have Zodiac. [57:56.200 --> 57:59.040] So those are going to be the next movies we talk about on the next episode. [57:59.280 --> 58:00.160] I'm excited. [58:00.560 --> 58:01.200] I am too. [58:01.320 --> 58:04.600] I'm excited to watch Zodiac because it has, it is a movie that's been on my [58:04.600 --> 58:05.080] radar. [58:05.080 --> 58:09.080] I just haven't watched it and I'm excited to rewatch baby driver again. [58:09.080 --> 58:11.920] Cause I just love that movie so much. [58:12.440 --> 58:13.080] I get it. [58:13.640 --> 58:16.480] So any notes before we leave. [58:18.160 --> 58:18.800] Let me get out. [58:19.360 --> 58:20.040] No. [58:22.120 --> 58:22.600] All right. [58:23.240 --> 58:24.160] That's, that's good. [58:24.400 --> 58:25.680] Gosh, I wish I had some. [58:25.680 --> 58:26.160] I don't. [58:26.200 --> 58:27.080] I'm so sorry. [58:27.280 --> 58:28.120] No, it's fine. [58:28.480 --> 58:29.280] It's totally fine. [58:29.400 --> 58:30.320] Watch our movies. [58:31.200 --> 58:31.640] Yeah. [58:32.320 --> 58:35.200] If you don't already, make sure to like and subscribe the podcast. [58:35.200 --> 58:38.120] Go to willhampodcast.com to find links on everything there. [58:38.200 --> 58:40.920] If you have thoughts on any of the movies that we just covered or we're [58:40.920 --> 58:44.560] going to be covering, feel free to leave us feedback. [58:44.960 --> 58:46.840] Feedback at willhampodcast.com. [58:46.880 --> 58:49.680] Let us know your thoughts on the movies. [58:50.520 --> 58:52.240] Other than that, I think that's it. [58:52.720 --> 58:55.440] I think that's going to be it for this episode of the movie swap. [58:58.440 --> 59:00.640] So with that being said, thank you guys for listening. [59:00.680 --> 59:02.120] Thank you for subscribing to the podcast. [59:02.120 --> 59:04.120] If you do, be sure to leave us a review. [59:04.680 --> 59:06.440] Go whatever you're listening on. [59:07.040 --> 59:09.800] Go and leave willham a review because it really helps out. [59:10.080 --> 59:12.720] Go check out our other podcast, the revisited podcast, which we'll [59:12.720 --> 59:14.400] cover in Ted Lasso at the moment. [59:14.960 --> 59:17.880] That's a spinoff of Wilhelm and a joint production with [59:18.400 --> 59:22.280] podcast, but that's it. [59:22.320 --> 59:24.120] Thank you guys for listening for subscribing. [59:24.160 --> 59:26.240] Until next time, we'll see you guys on another episode. [59:26.760 --> 59:27.440] Bye bye. [59:27.880 --> 59:28.720] Namaste. Transcription results written to '/home/forge/transcribe.sonicengage.com/releases/20240207164810' directory
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