Episode 142: TED LASSO SERIES WRAP-UP (w/ Special Guests)

[00:00:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Welcome to another episode of the Revisited Podcast. I'm Ben.

[00:00:47] [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm your token female for this evening, Kristin. I say that I'm your token female

[00:00:53] [SPEAKER_01]: because we are joined by our cast of many voicemails over the course of our

[00:00:58] [SPEAKER_01]: coverage of TED LASSO. And that is Mr. Alex. Hello.

[00:01:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Hello. Am I just saying hello?

[00:01:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, sure. Mr. Greg.

[00:01:12] Hello.

[00:01:14] [SPEAKER_01]: And as always, our wonderful live steever himself, Mr. Steve.

[00:01:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Hello, everyone. This is Steve, by the way.

[00:01:23] [SPEAKER_04]: This will be the first time we've heard Steve on the podcast not doing a live

[00:01:26] [SPEAKER_04]: steving.

[00:01:28] [SPEAKER_01]: I think he should live, Steve, would have.

[00:01:31] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I was hoping Steve would listen to this and then live Steve along

[00:01:36] [SPEAKER_03]: to it and drop that for the next episode, because that'd be fantastic.

[00:01:39] [SPEAKER_03]: I would love that.

[00:01:43] [SPEAKER_04]: So, yeah, so so as Kristin mentioned, there's this is going to be very

[00:01:48] [SPEAKER_04]: informal, but we decided to bring back some of the people who have been

[00:01:52] [SPEAKER_04]: so great about leaving us feedback over our course of TED LASSO just to kind of

[00:01:56] [SPEAKER_04]: do like a little season wrap up of of our coverage before we move on to the

[00:02:00] [SPEAKER_04]: good place next month in September.

[00:02:04] [SPEAKER_04]: So I do understand now why Kristin said token female because

[00:02:09] [SPEAKER_04]: a lot of dudes, a lot of dudes in this on this podcast right now.

[00:02:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Screen surrounded by men.

[00:02:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, but you have very nice TED LASSO legs on our legs are men.

[00:02:21] [SPEAKER_04]: God, that's right.

[00:02:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Even your legs, even your legs are manly on this one.

[00:02:27] [SPEAKER_01]: I know it's sad story.

[00:02:32] [SPEAKER_04]: So, yeah, so I mean, we're going to keep this very informal, as you can already

[00:02:35] [SPEAKER_04]: tell, this is incredibly formal.

[00:02:38] [SPEAKER_04]: But we're just going to go through.

[00:02:39] [SPEAKER_04]: We want to talk about a little bit about what the show has meant to us over

[00:02:42] [SPEAKER_04]: the course of it. Have our opinions changed about some things as we covered

[00:02:46] [SPEAKER_04]: the show? We'll talk about some of our favorite characters and moments.

[00:02:49] [SPEAKER_04]: And I also kind of want to talk about the idea of a potential fourth season, which

[00:02:55] [SPEAKER_04]: is floating around out there as well.

[00:02:58] [SPEAKER_04]: I want to get people's opinions on that.

[00:03:00] [SPEAKER_04]: But let's just go down the line, Kristin, you and I are kind of step back

[00:03:05] [SPEAKER_04]: on this one because we've already talked about it on our ends.

[00:03:07] [SPEAKER_04]: But, you know, with the three of you, I think it's best for all of us

[00:03:11] [SPEAKER_01]: that I take a back seat.

[00:03:13] [SPEAKER_04]: No, we need the female voice because you've got to chime in.

[00:03:16] [SPEAKER_04]: It's fine. We'll chime in.

[00:03:19] [SPEAKER_04]: But, yeah, like I want to I want to get overall, you know, because you guys

[00:03:23] [SPEAKER_04]: have been great about leaving us feedback over the course of everything

[00:03:26] [SPEAKER_04]: about the episodes.

[00:03:27] [SPEAKER_04]: But I want to know overall what this series has meant to you, even before

[00:03:33] [SPEAKER_04]: our coverage, just in general, watching it during the pandemic, watching

[00:03:37] [SPEAKER_04]: it since rewatching it.

[00:03:38] [SPEAKER_04]: What is the series meant to you?

[00:03:41] [SPEAKER_04]: And Greg, we'll start with you.

[00:03:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Tell us a little bit about like, what is it like?

[00:03:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Where does your love from the show come from?

[00:03:49] [SPEAKER_00]: So this this is a little bit.

[00:03:51] [SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, I know that I've shared probably overshared quite a bit on either

[00:03:56] [SPEAKER_00]: feedback or other podcasts.

[00:03:59] [SPEAKER_00]: But I didn't actually start watching this in the pandemic, or at least not

[00:04:03] [SPEAKER_00]: in 2020 when it came out.

[00:04:05] [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't start watching it until I think close to the beginning of season two.

[00:04:12] [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, immediately it was something that I

[00:04:17] [SPEAKER_00]: it was just a lighthearted, hopeful comedy, which, yes, points in 2021.

[00:04:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Not a lot was going great.

[00:04:29] [SPEAKER_00]: And I think that that it was it was a return to must see TV for me.

[00:04:33] [SPEAKER_00]: It was every week I was waiting for the show to drop and so that I could

[00:04:37] [SPEAKER_00]: I would wake up at five o'clock in the morning so that I could watch it

[00:04:42] [SPEAKER_00]: before I before I went to work.

[00:04:44] [SPEAKER_00]: And I it was absolutely like from beginning to end.

[00:04:51] [SPEAKER_00]: I talk pretty regularly about Breaking Bad being my favorite

[00:04:55] [SPEAKER_00]: beginning to end story

[00:04:58] [SPEAKER_00]: because they knew what they had in the beginning.

[00:05:01] [SPEAKER_00]: They knew where they wanted to get at the end.

[00:05:03] [SPEAKER_00]: And and now I have to modify that because it is my favorite drama

[00:05:08] [SPEAKER_00]: beginning to end.

[00:05:10] [SPEAKER_00]: But this show.

[00:05:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Not even on necessarily a personal level, but the the character

[00:05:18] [SPEAKER_00]: arcs and the character development from episode one to episode

[00:05:22] [SPEAKER_00]: how many fucking episodes were there?

[00:05:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Thirty eight, forty.

[00:05:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, no, eight for season one, ten for seasons two and three.

[00:05:31] [SPEAKER_04]: OK, so twenty eight.

[00:05:33] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like it was more than that.

[00:05:35] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel as well as 10 and 12, right?

[00:05:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, you might be right.

[00:05:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think it's ten for season one, twelve for two and three.

[00:05:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. So, I mean, you know, thirty four episodes and sorry, I was.

[00:05:45] [SPEAKER_00]: And the fact I mean, the fact that it was, you know, initially

[00:05:47] [SPEAKER_00]: it was only a half hour, thirty three minute show every week.

[00:05:52] [SPEAKER_00]: I was left wanting more.

[00:05:54] [SPEAKER_00]: And then we eventually got more and I still was left wanting more

[00:05:58] [SPEAKER_00]: because it just made me feel good to start my day

[00:06:03] [SPEAKER_00]: or whenever the fuck I was watching it.

[00:06:07] [SPEAKER_00]: And until season three, in all honesty,

[00:06:09] [SPEAKER_00]: and season three,

[00:06:12] [SPEAKER_00]: now we got in, they got into like divorce and mental health and whatnot

[00:06:16] [SPEAKER_00]: in like closer into season two.

[00:06:19] [SPEAKER_00]: But season three is where I like basically it was like my life

[00:06:24] [SPEAKER_00]: and everything on the show just kind of came crashing together.

[00:06:29] [SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, there are there are episodes now that I can't get through.

[00:06:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Like there was the I can't remember what was called.

[00:06:38] [SPEAKER_00]: I think it was La Casa.

[00:06:42] [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, the locker room follies or whatever it was.

[00:06:48] [SPEAKER_00]: I I can't get through it emotionally.

[00:06:52] [SPEAKER_00]: I and I don't mean like I start crying during it.

[00:06:55] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I so much of that,

[00:06:59] [SPEAKER_00]: of what Colin says about not being able to be yourself

[00:07:02] [SPEAKER_00]: and not being accepted for yourself and and giving in to either

[00:07:07] [SPEAKER_00]: the pressure of society and the pressure of other people.

[00:07:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Like makes me realize that maybe I've got some fucking drama somewhere

[00:07:14] [SPEAKER_00]: that fucks me up enough that that I I'm doing this to myself.

[00:07:19] [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, yeah, so it and I've been through a divorce.

[00:07:25] [SPEAKER_00]: I've been through separation from my kids.

[00:07:29] [SPEAKER_00]: I've been through probably depression,

[00:07:32] [SPEAKER_00]: except you just ignore it because you just push it down

[00:07:34] [SPEAKER_00]: and you just never talk about it ever again.

[00:07:36] [SPEAKER_00]: And then everything's just fine, right?

[00:07:38] [SPEAKER_00]: It never comes back to bite you in the ass.

[00:07:40] [SPEAKER_00]: So like a lot of this

[00:07:44] [SPEAKER_00]: and then and then at the end, like then all of the characters,

[00:07:47] [SPEAKER_00]: all the characters you want to love, you just love all the more.

[00:07:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I just loved all the more.

[00:07:56] [SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, so it was at the end

[00:07:59] [SPEAKER_00]: because it was a relatively happy ending for everybody.

[00:08:01] [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, this is fucking amazing.

[00:08:06] [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, that's that's my

[00:08:10] [SPEAKER_00]: less extensive than like half my voice mails.

[00:08:13] [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, you were you've you've been pretty open

[00:08:16] [SPEAKER_04]: in the voicemails that you've left over that too.

[00:08:19] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, Kristen and I have been pretty open about,

[00:08:21] [SPEAKER_04]: you know, what the show has meant to us and how it like

[00:08:24] [SPEAKER_04]: has affected us personally with some of our own personal issues.

[00:08:27] [SPEAKER_04]: But you've done the same thing with some of your feedback.

[00:08:30] [SPEAKER_00]: It's it is a you can call it a failing of mine.

[00:08:33] [SPEAKER_00]: But I think it's also how I process things is that I put it in words

[00:08:36] [SPEAKER_00]: and I talk about it and

[00:08:39] [SPEAKER_00]: like, which is why therapy is so effective for me.

[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Only I can only go an hour a week. That's bullshit.

[00:08:44] [SPEAKER_00]: It's like only seeing one episode of Teletra a week.

[00:08:47] [SPEAKER_00]: It's bullshit.

[00:08:48] [SPEAKER_00]: You watch it all the time.

[00:08:51] [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I it is it.

[00:08:55] [SPEAKER_00]: I've I've literally watched this the series

[00:08:58] [SPEAKER_00]: every episode at least three times.

[00:09:00] [SPEAKER_00]: And I've watched seasons one and two, probably half a dozen.

[00:09:06] [SPEAKER_05]: Nice.

[00:09:07] [SPEAKER_05]: Steve, how about you?

[00:09:10] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm trying to remember.

[00:09:11] [SPEAKER_05]: I think I came into it relatively late, I think, but not.

[00:09:15] [SPEAKER_05]: But still in the first season.

[00:09:16] [SPEAKER_05]: And I think for me, what what drew me to it was

[00:09:21] [SPEAKER_05]: how there's a certain point in those first few episodes

[00:09:25] [SPEAKER_05]: where it starts to turn the tropes of the American

[00:09:30] [SPEAKER_05]: kind of the Americanized underdog story

[00:09:35] [SPEAKER_05]: and and gets rid of some of those tropes like the the

[00:09:39] [SPEAKER_05]: the major, you know, Major League had the woman owner

[00:09:42] [SPEAKER_05]: who wanted to tear the team apart and she never redeems herself.

[00:09:45] [SPEAKER_05]: But yet in this one, we have that all get switched up

[00:09:48] [SPEAKER_05]: to where we have the the woman who's

[00:09:51] [SPEAKER_05]: originally trying to tear down the team ends up building it up

[00:09:54] [SPEAKER_05]: and just all the all the tropes that it flipped on its head for me

[00:09:58] [SPEAKER_05]: was what really drew me to the to the series.

[00:10:01] [SPEAKER_05]: And just I agree with Greg, like just the good nature of it

[00:10:06] [SPEAKER_05]: was it was a huge part of why I loved it.

[00:10:09] [SPEAKER_05]: And I think because I try to find a character that I can identify with.

[00:10:14] [SPEAKER_05]: And I think I identified a lot, even though we're not exactly alike,

[00:10:17] [SPEAKER_05]: but like I identified a lot with Roy and just

[00:10:21] [SPEAKER_05]: who he was and kind of who he was to the team.

[00:10:25] [SPEAKER_05]: And that's, you know, Greg, and I don't want to speak for you,

[00:10:28] [SPEAKER_05]: but, you know, coming from a military background,

[00:10:32] [SPEAKER_05]: that kind of that that NCO leadership kind of thing

[00:10:35] [SPEAKER_05]: that that was Roy to the team.

[00:10:37] [SPEAKER_05]: And that's who I identified with.

[00:10:40] [SPEAKER_05]: And so getting to see that and then see his growth

[00:10:43] [SPEAKER_05]: through the series as well, culminating in the third season.

[00:10:47] [SPEAKER_05]: And before I forget, I want to give my props to I can't remember.

[00:10:50] [SPEAKER_05]: I think it was Greg when we had the meetup in Hershey, weren't you

[00:10:54] [SPEAKER_05]: the one who was like not defending Nate,

[00:10:57] [SPEAKER_05]: but you were explaining that, hey, Nate's Nate's heel turn.

[00:11:01] [SPEAKER_05]: You can kind of if you watch it, you can see it happening.

[00:11:04] [SPEAKER_05]: And in the rewatch, I think Ben and Kristen, you both mentioned as well.

[00:11:08] [SPEAKER_05]: We start to see that heel turn happening

[00:11:11] [SPEAKER_05]: and we see what the background is of it.

[00:11:14] [SPEAKER_05]: But even though Ted's not necessarily to blame,

[00:11:17] [SPEAKER_05]: but there's ways that Ted could have stopped it.

[00:11:20] [SPEAKER_05]: Or could have maybe helped to turn it around, I think.

[00:11:24] [SPEAKER_05]: But so, yeah, yeah.

[00:11:26] [SPEAKER_05]: So I think that was the big thing for me on this rewatch

[00:11:28] [SPEAKER_05]: was the Nate, the character of Nate and seeing him

[00:11:32] [SPEAKER_05]: from the beginning to the end, knowing where he was going to get to.

[00:11:36] [SPEAKER_05]: That really helped me.

[00:11:38] [SPEAKER_05]: And I really enjoyed the rewatch.

[00:11:40] [SPEAKER_05]: I would say even more so than the first time I watched it, because I was.

[00:11:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. No, no, go ahead.

[00:11:48] [SPEAKER_05]: That's that's all I had.

[00:11:49] [SPEAKER_05]: Just that that was the biggest thing for me.

[00:11:51] [SPEAKER_05]: And I wanted to get props to like I said, I think it was Greg or Ben.

[00:11:53] [SPEAKER_05]: It was one of you that said that when we met in Hershey

[00:11:57] [SPEAKER_05]: during the third season, I think it was during the third season,

[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_05]: Thursdays hadn't finished yet.

[00:12:01] [SPEAKER_05]: And you were like, well, if you watch Nate and I remember being at it,

[00:12:04] [SPEAKER_05]: no, he's just a jerk and I hate him.

[00:12:07] [SPEAKER_05]: And he's I'm never going to be there, never going to be able to redeem him.

[00:12:10] [SPEAKER_00]: And I feel like I feel like I had that conversation.

[00:12:12] [SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, I didn't make it to Hershey because I've got covid.

[00:12:16] [SPEAKER_00]: OK, but in Massachusetts,

[00:12:18] [SPEAKER_00]: I definitely had that conversation with somebody because Nate in particular.

[00:12:25] [SPEAKER_00]: I I at the end of season two where he was such a cunt,

[00:12:31] [SPEAKER_00]: I like I I I but like there were there were those moments

[00:12:36] [SPEAKER_00]: like that very specifically, oh, like,

[00:12:39] [SPEAKER_00]: yeah, OK, you're a big dog.

[00:12:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I was like, oh, you done fucked up, Ted.

[00:12:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Like that is you done fucked up.

[00:12:47] [SPEAKER_00]: And if you are on your rewatch,

[00:12:50] [SPEAKER_00]: it's clear as day that you can see you can read it on Nate's face.

[00:12:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, let's let's put a pin in this for the moment

[00:12:56] [SPEAKER_04]: because we are going to go to that about like, no, no, it's totally fine.

[00:13:00] [SPEAKER_04]: But I want to go to Alec before we dive into,

[00:13:02] [SPEAKER_04]: you know, storylines we see differently upon the rewatch.

[00:13:05] [SPEAKER_04]: I want to go to Alex next.

[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_04]: And Alex, I want you to kind of tell a little bit about

[00:13:09] [SPEAKER_04]: like what it is about this show that attracted you to it

[00:13:12] [SPEAKER_04]: and why you stuck with it and did the rewatch with us.

[00:13:16] [SPEAKER_03]: All right. So my my journey, my whole experience with Ted Lasso,

[00:13:20] [SPEAKER_03]: I think is going to be a little bit different in that

[00:13:22] [SPEAKER_03]: I am a Bill Lawrence acolyte since Spin City all the way through Scrubs.

[00:13:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Scrubs was a massive part of my high school and college experience.

[00:13:31] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it was on constantly on Comedy Central.

[00:13:34] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, it was one of the few things I Tivoed.

[00:13:36] [SPEAKER_03]: We all remember Tivo.

[00:13:37] [SPEAKER_03]: I still have one. Damn right, you do.

[00:13:40] [SPEAKER_04]: That's in a box in my basement, but I still have one.

[00:13:43] [SPEAKER_03]: There's like four episodes of season five of NCIS.

[00:13:45] [SPEAKER_03]: I still have to watch on there. But, you know, and

[00:13:49] [SPEAKER_03]: and Bill Lawrence just became so everything.

[00:13:52] [SPEAKER_03]: And I remember when I saw the commercials for Ted Lasso,

[00:13:55] [SPEAKER_03]: when British Premier League started to play on NBC.

[00:13:57] [SPEAKER_03]: And I remember that character and, you know, he took over Tottenham Hotspur.

[00:14:01] [SPEAKER_03]: It was really funny at the time I was watching soccer because,

[00:14:04] [SPEAKER_03]: you know, I was making questionable decisions in my life.

[00:14:07] [SPEAKER_03]: And it was really cool.

[00:14:08] [SPEAKER_03]: So I started watching the show knowing I'm a Bill Lawrence fan,

[00:14:11] [SPEAKER_03]: knowing that Zach Braff directed Episode Two Biscuits.

[00:14:14] [SPEAKER_03]: And like I was really going into it for the story.

[00:14:17] [SPEAKER_03]: And damned if I wasn't blown away by the snappy,

[00:14:20] [SPEAKER_03]: zesty writing, the really colorful drawn out characters,

[00:14:23] [SPEAKER_03]: a full ensemble cast and then super good storytelling.

[00:14:28] [SPEAKER_03]: The thing that kept me going with Ted Lasso

[00:14:30] [SPEAKER_03]: and the thing that to me makes it so culturally important

[00:14:35] [SPEAKER_03]: is the way it presents healthy masculinity.

[00:14:37] [SPEAKER_03]: And and.

[00:14:40] [SPEAKER_03]: I think before Ted Lasso,

[00:14:42] [SPEAKER_03]: everyone kind of skirted around in media the idea of healthy masculinity,

[00:14:46] [SPEAKER_03]: but nobody just went for it.

[00:14:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Nobody said Rupert toxic masculinity.

[00:14:51] [SPEAKER_03]: That's bad.

[00:14:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Ted healthy, encouraging, uplifting.

[00:14:54] [SPEAKER_03]: We love each other masculinity.

[00:14:56] [SPEAKER_03]: That's the shit that's actually going to make people successful

[00:14:58] [SPEAKER_03]: and make society better.

[00:14:59] [SPEAKER_03]: And I think since then, we've seen an outpouring of that love.

[00:15:02] [SPEAKER_03]: And to me, more than anything else, it's that that resonance

[00:15:06] [SPEAKER_03]: and that good vibe and that constant like, yeah, man,

[00:15:09] [SPEAKER_03]: like I'm feeling uplifted by hearing the story.

[00:15:12] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm seeing people addressing their warts and all.

[00:15:15] [SPEAKER_03]: I agree with you exactly, Steve.

[00:15:17] [SPEAKER_03]: This time around, watching Nate's redemption arc,

[00:15:20] [SPEAKER_03]: I felt it so much more like as someone that has screwed up,

[00:15:26] [SPEAKER_03]: as someone that has, you know, gotten to that emotional rock bottom

[00:15:31] [SPEAKER_03]: and has had to fight and claw with certain relationships

[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_03]: to get that trust back and to get that that belief back like

[00:15:39] [SPEAKER_03]: you understand what he went through and the trials and tribulations.

[00:15:42] [SPEAKER_03]: And it just it's a really good show in a lot of ways.

[00:15:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, so I mean, since we're since you brought it up again

[00:15:50] [SPEAKER_04]: and we've kind of we're we're on that point, let us let us talk about

[00:15:53] [SPEAKER_04]: some of these storylines that maybe we saw differently because

[00:15:55] [SPEAKER_04]: upon the first watch of the show, it is a very surface like

[00:15:59] [SPEAKER_04]: we're just seeing everything for the first time.

[00:16:01] [SPEAKER_04]: We're not diving that deep into it.

[00:16:03] [SPEAKER_04]: And then as Kristen and I discovered, as we we went back

[00:16:07] [SPEAKER_04]: and revisited all these episodes, we're starting to learn a little bit

[00:16:10] [SPEAKER_04]: more and more. And I think upon the second time.

[00:16:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Because I think Kristen, I think you can kind of play along to this, too.

[00:16:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Like I think even you said, you see Nate's story are

[00:16:20] [SPEAKER_04]: very differently this time than you did the first time.

[00:16:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, 100 percent. Yeah, totally.

[00:16:25] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, just like Greg was talking about before,

[00:16:30] [SPEAKER_01]: we we talked about those moments in season two where we were just like,

[00:16:34] [SPEAKER_01]: oh, no, oh, no.

[00:16:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Like we saw how Ted was screwing up with Nate just over and over and over again.

[00:16:41] [SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, Nate just had no confidence.

[00:16:44] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he couldn't even make dinner reservations at a restaurant,

[00:16:47] [SPEAKER_01]: let alone talk to his boss about something that was making him feel

[00:16:52] [SPEAKER_01]: less than.

[00:16:55] [SPEAKER_01]: So watching Rupert.

[00:16:59] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, you just have to think that Rupert

[00:17:01] [SPEAKER_01]: understood maybe that this dynamic was happening or maybe even fed into the

[00:17:05] [SPEAKER_01]: dynamic. We saw that he was already pulling him in at the at the funeral

[00:17:11] [SPEAKER_01]: at whose funeral was it? Rebecca's.

[00:17:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Rebecca's father.

[00:17:16] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, and you just see it happening and you know what's going to happen

[00:17:21] [SPEAKER_01]: and you know what's going to unfold.

[00:17:23] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's soul crushing to watch it all over again, especially when you know

[00:17:27] [SPEAKER_01]: that it could have been completely prevented.

[00:17:31] [SPEAKER_01]: And I didn't. Yeah, I did not see that the first time around.

[00:17:35] [SPEAKER_01]: And I really thought that watching Nate's entire story unfold this time was

[00:17:39] [SPEAKER_01]: quite lovely.

[00:17:41] [SPEAKER_03]: One thing that really blew me away watching it this time was when Rebecca

[00:17:45] [SPEAKER_03]: was describing how Rupert was so charming and won her over to her side,

[00:17:50] [SPEAKER_03]: I was really drawn into how that paralleled the story with Nate and how

[00:17:55] [SPEAKER_03]: she wasn't just talking from a romantic standpoint, but also from the

[00:17:58] [SPEAKER_03]: way that Rupert is able to worm him his way into Nate.

[00:18:01] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that's essentially a groomed relationship without any physical

[00:18:05] [SPEAKER_03]: attraction. But that mentorship, that father type figure, that

[00:18:10] [SPEAKER_03]: accolade that Nate's always craving and Rupert was willing to give him all

[00:18:14] [SPEAKER_03]: that face value, all of it.

[00:18:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's interesting that you say that like grooming him or whatever,

[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_01]: because I mean, even I mean, that was just kind of like at at that point,

[00:18:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Nate's line in the sand was at Oak and Honey when

[00:18:30] [SPEAKER_01]: when Rupert knew that Nate was in a relationship and really happy

[00:18:34] [SPEAKER_01]: in his relationship. And Rupert took him to Oak and Honey and was like,

[00:18:38] [SPEAKER_01]: you know, come on with me and let's let's be these kinds of people.

[00:18:42] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, let me control you further.

[00:18:45] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, and that it I love that that was the line that he drew in the

[00:18:49] [SPEAKER_01]: sand. I think that it really said a lot about how far Nate has come

[00:18:54] [SPEAKER_01]: to to respect the man that he's become, the person that he's with and

[00:18:59] [SPEAKER_01]: and the differences that he has made.

[00:19:01] [SPEAKER_01]: And that was that was a really good moment there.

[00:19:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. I mean, going back to an earlier point,

[00:19:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Steve, that you kind of touched on a little bit as well, like how

[00:19:11] [SPEAKER_01]: what did I say?

[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't remember.

[00:19:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Oak and Honey, Bones and Honey is definitely way better.

[00:19:21] [SPEAKER_01]: You should be that guy.

[00:19:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Oak and Honey makes me think of Frozen, though.

[00:19:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, that's true.

[00:19:28] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm sorry. I love how that just came out of nowhere.

[00:19:31] [SPEAKER_01]: You didn't see the chat pop up?

[00:19:33] [SPEAKER_04]: No, I don't have. I don't have the chat up.

[00:19:37] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't want to be that guy. But Bones and Honey.

[00:19:40] [SPEAKER_00]: It was perfect. Be that guy.

[00:19:43] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm sorry. I forgot we had a chat.

[00:19:45] [SPEAKER_01]: I had no idea that was a feature on this.

[00:19:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Just popped up. I thought it was going to tell me something.

[00:19:52] [SPEAKER_04]: I thought you just came to some like brilliant realization, like,

[00:19:55] [SPEAKER_04]: oh, wait, I was wrong. What did I say?

[00:20:02] [SPEAKER_04]: That's awesome.

[00:20:04] [SPEAKER_04]: But no, Steve, how you kind of touched on like how you saw a lot

[00:20:07] [SPEAKER_04]: of similarities in Roy Kent with people that you know,

[00:20:10] [SPEAKER_04]: I think a lot of these characters and one of the reasons why

[00:20:13] [SPEAKER_04]: Nate's story was different the second time around is because

[00:20:16] [SPEAKER_04]: I think it's not just Roy.

[00:20:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Like Roy is one of those characters I think we all wish

[00:20:21] [SPEAKER_04]: we could be in just speaking your mind and not giving a shit

[00:20:25] [SPEAKER_04]: and just kind of blowing everything off and just moving through life.

[00:20:28] [SPEAKER_04]: But I think each and every one of these characters has some kind

[00:20:31] [SPEAKER_04]: of characteristic that we all wish we could be.

[00:20:34] [SPEAKER_04]: We all wish we could kind of be confident like Rebecca

[00:20:37] [SPEAKER_04]: becomes or find our confidence like Nate

[00:20:40] [SPEAKER_04]: or just be incredibly helpful and positive

[00:20:44] [SPEAKER_04]: like Ted or be a sexy baby.

[00:20:46] Yeah.

[00:20:48] [SPEAKER_05]: Just be or be an intellectual, intellectual wise like

[00:20:53] [SPEAKER_05]: you.

[00:20:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, like intellectual like you heard or just or just have

[00:20:58] [SPEAKER_04]: really great hair like Jamie in season three.

[00:21:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Shut up.

[00:21:03] [SPEAKER_03]: You know what, Kristen? I will fight you on that.

[00:21:05] [SPEAKER_03]: I love his hair all three seasons.

[00:21:07] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if you got it flaunted.

[00:21:09] [SPEAKER_03]: OK, so he looks like Zachary Ty Bryant sometimes.

[00:21:12] [SPEAKER_03]: OK, a lot.

[00:21:13] [SPEAKER_01]: All he's missing is that seriously high under shave and flaunt.

[00:21:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Flaunt what your mama gave you.

[00:21:19] [SPEAKER_01]: He's got his his mama gave him a lot like he's hot.

[00:21:24] [SPEAKER_01]: He can get it.

[00:21:25] [SPEAKER_01]: But that hair, hmm.

[00:21:28] [SPEAKER_01]: He just he needed somebody to tell him to stop.

[00:21:32] [SPEAKER_03]: That was one of my favorite running throughs of this entire

[00:21:35] [SPEAKER_03]: revisited with you guys was listening to see when you would give him

[00:21:39] [SPEAKER_03]: his flowers for his hair.

[00:21:40] [SPEAKER_03]: And I don't think it ever happened except until the very last episode, you

[00:21:43] [SPEAKER_03]: finally said, hey, Jamie, nice haircut for one.

[00:21:46] [SPEAKER_03]: And I just know that's nicely done.

[00:21:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you. Yes, it's a real Nate turn, right?

[00:21:53] [SPEAKER_04]: I know I know this is going to be lost on listeners, but

[00:21:56] [SPEAKER_04]: another fun copop I just got is also another Jamie one.

[00:22:00] [SPEAKER_04]: And the first thing Kristen says is, oh, God, his hair is awful.

[00:22:03] [SPEAKER_02]: I did.

[00:22:06] [SPEAKER_03]: That is one of the particularly bad ones because you know what?

[00:22:10] [SPEAKER_01]: So 90s is so 90s.

[00:22:13] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like school.

[00:22:14] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, the 90s are back.

[00:22:16] [SPEAKER_01]: They are not back like that.

[00:22:18] [SPEAKER_03]: They could be they could be not for lack of trying.

[00:22:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Look, we are talking about a man who I'm using man loosely in this sense.

[00:22:27] [SPEAKER_01]: We are talking about a king tart is a man.

[00:22:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, no. But I'm going back to season one with what I'm about to say.

[00:22:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Little boy. We were we are talking about a person who had golden guns

[00:22:37] [SPEAKER_04]: as lamps in his apartment in season one.

[00:22:41] [SPEAKER_04]: If we remember that icon, I cog by the end.

[00:22:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. Yeah.

[00:22:47] [SPEAKER_05]: But I mean, I never noticed that.

[00:22:49] [SPEAKER_05]: So I'm glad you guys.

[00:22:50] [SPEAKER_03]: That was a really good point.

[00:22:51] [SPEAKER_03]: I did not realize that either. Thank you.

[00:22:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Kristen made me see it. I didn't see it either.

[00:22:55] [SPEAKER_04]: And it is very clear as day, too.

[00:22:58] [SPEAKER_04]: It's hard to me.

[00:22:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes. But I mean, like in characters that we see in everybody,

[00:23:02] [SPEAKER_04]: like I was mentioned in Jamie, I think is one that we kind of

[00:23:05] [SPEAKER_04]: at least be personally is we see somebody that we who grows up

[00:23:10] [SPEAKER_04]: so much in this that we all kind of wish like, hey, like, I wish I could grow up,

[00:23:15] [SPEAKER_04]: you know, if we're not already.

[00:23:17] [SPEAKER_05]: Sometimes we are. But yeah, I like to point that out,

[00:23:20] [SPEAKER_05]: because one of the things that's different about soccer from a lot of other

[00:23:25] [SPEAKER_05]: maybe maybe Major League Baseball might be the only closest

[00:23:28] [SPEAKER_05]: kind of sport to to soccer

[00:23:33] [SPEAKER_05]: where you can go straight from.

[00:23:36] [SPEAKER_05]: And yes, there's a handful of basketball players and football players

[00:23:38] [SPEAKER_05]: that have done it, but it's not it's more much more prevalent in soccer

[00:23:42] [SPEAKER_05]: and major league baseball to go from straight from high school

[00:23:47] [SPEAKER_05]: into a pro team, you know, just go straight.

[00:23:49] [SPEAKER_05]: No college, no or barely any college in just 19, 20 years old.

[00:23:54] [SPEAKER_05]: You're now a professional athlete.

[00:23:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Or you could be here in Philly in your 14 and signed to a team.

[00:23:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, there's that's true.

[00:24:01] [SPEAKER_04]: What? Yeah, that just happened.

[00:24:03] [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to put a pin in that for later.

[00:24:07] [SPEAKER_05]: But you know, and so when when the soccer guy,

[00:24:11] [SPEAKER_05]: the coach at the end tells Ted, we're here to make them help them become men.

[00:24:16] [SPEAKER_05]: I realize that that's why soccer is different from other sports,

[00:24:21] [SPEAKER_05]: because they do even though, yes, they're professional athletes,

[00:24:24] [SPEAKER_05]: but they're still only 19, 20 years old.

[00:24:27] [SPEAKER_05]: They're still developing.

[00:24:28] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, mentally and and depending on what they've been handed to

[00:24:34] [SPEAKER_05]: their whole life, they're they don't know what to do with themselves.

[00:24:38] [SPEAKER_05]: So I like that we had that aspect of seeing these characters grow,

[00:24:42] [SPEAKER_05]: even Danny by little bits, but we see Danny grow a little bit.

[00:24:45] [SPEAKER_05]: We see Sam. I mean, gosh, Sam, his growth is incredible.

[00:24:50] [SPEAKER_05]: He comes. Yeah, he starts out as a boy

[00:24:52] [SPEAKER_05]: and he becomes a man by the end of this this series.

[00:24:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Within. Yeah, within.

[00:24:57] [SPEAKER_01]: I love your. Yeah, I'm so sorry.

[00:25:00] [SPEAKER_01]: I love your insight on that, Steve.

[00:25:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Holy cow.

[00:25:03] [SPEAKER_01]: I I didn't even think about that aspect of it until you just mentioned

[00:25:07] [SPEAKER_01]: was that they are so young and they're given all this money

[00:25:11] [SPEAKER_01]: and all of this fame and celebrity.

[00:25:15] [SPEAKER_01]: And what a perfect person like Ted to come in and build them into men

[00:25:22] [SPEAKER_01]: when it could have gone seriously wrong.

[00:25:25] [SPEAKER_01]: That's wonderful, wonderful insight.

[00:25:28] [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm going to also throw on top of that.

[00:25:30] [SPEAKER_03]: What I like about the show is it shows it's not just Ted

[00:25:34] [SPEAKER_03]: that is helping these people grow because of how this show

[00:25:37] [SPEAKER_03]: handles mental health, bringing Dr.

[00:25:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Sharon on in season two.

[00:25:40] [SPEAKER_03]: It's not just Ted.

[00:25:41] [SPEAKER_03]: It is also actual licensed therapist counseling.

[00:25:45] [SPEAKER_03]: You think about the journey that Colin went on from where we saw him

[00:25:48] [SPEAKER_03]: in season one, he's just kind of that joke.

[00:25:50] [SPEAKER_03]: He's that guy that got, you know, headbutted by Roy

[00:25:52] [SPEAKER_03]: and he's not supposed to drink. So he has a drink to season three.

[00:25:54] [SPEAKER_03]: And the arc he goes on in the story he's able to tell.

[00:25:57] [SPEAKER_03]: And a lot of that is because of the comfort he was able to find

[00:26:00] [SPEAKER_03]: through mental health.

[00:26:02] [SPEAKER_03]: And I think one of the I love what this show does for destigmatizing

[00:26:06] [SPEAKER_03]: mental health and saying, like, come on, go go to a counselor.

[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_03]: It yeah, I don't care if nothing in your brain is going wrong.

[00:26:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Go talk to someone that isn't connected to you.

[00:26:15] [SPEAKER_03]: It's it's the healthiest thing you can do for yourself.

[00:26:18] [SPEAKER_04]: One hundred percent.

[00:26:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Greg, were you about to say something?

[00:26:22] [SPEAKER_00]: I was, but then I was just listening intently to what you guys were saying.

[00:26:25] [SPEAKER_00]: And OK, I lost it.

[00:26:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Could you? Yeah, that's fine.

[00:26:31] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, you talk about like how having like a coach like Lasso come in

[00:26:36] [SPEAKER_04]: and how impactful that is on a team of these these people

[00:26:40] [SPEAKER_04]: that are in essence, like we said, are boys at the time

[00:26:44] [SPEAKER_04]: and going through their process of growing into men.

[00:26:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Could you imagine what that would have been like?

[00:26:49] [SPEAKER_04]: How much things would have been different if George

[00:26:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Cartrick was still involved and still in charge of that team

[00:26:54] [SPEAKER_04]: as the head coach, had he never been fired?

[00:26:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. I mean, they would have been a team of people of boys

[00:27:01] [SPEAKER_04]: with a ball hanging out like the whole time.

[00:27:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, no, I mean, I think that I think that the the whole point there

[00:27:07] [SPEAKER_00]: was that it would have.

[00:27:09] [SPEAKER_00]: What he was was demonstrating in that first

[00:27:13] [SPEAKER_00]: ceremony, you basically look at it from Nate's point of view

[00:27:16] [SPEAKER_00]: or not from Nate's point of view.

[00:27:17] [SPEAKER_00]: But if if you were to say, oh, hey, Nate's going to be the head coach.

[00:27:21] [SPEAKER_00]: And when they got a little bit of power,

[00:27:24] [SPEAKER_00]: he didn't get a little bit of empowerment.

[00:27:26] [SPEAKER_00]: He got just a little bit of power and he turned into, well,

[00:27:31] [SPEAKER_00]: it show his goddamn paycheck and maybe he'll, you know,

[00:27:34] [SPEAKER_00]: it'll inspire him to actually perform.

[00:27:36] [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's a that's exactly why they had

[00:27:39] [SPEAKER_00]: however many decades of mediocrity in previous in previous years,

[00:27:45] [SPEAKER_00]: where, you know, Rebecca, I think in that first

[00:27:49] [SPEAKER_00]: in that first episode, the press room said,

[00:27:52] [SPEAKER_00]: I was in this full and in literally years.

[00:27:57] [SPEAKER_00]: But I think that when we talked about this,

[00:28:00] [SPEAKER_00]: well, when during the rewatch, I know I'd send in like a big difference

[00:28:03] [SPEAKER_00]: between Roy and and Nate coaching during season two.

[00:28:08] [SPEAKER_00]: But I think that's exactly what it would have been.

[00:28:10] [SPEAKER_00]: And it wouldn't have been as.

[00:28:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Ted said way early on, and then when he's talking about

[00:28:18] [SPEAKER_00]: not counting wins and losses and then Pep reiterates to him,

[00:28:22] [SPEAKER_00]: it's all about making them the best versions of themselves on and off the field.

[00:28:27] [SPEAKER_00]: You get yourself to be a better version of yourself

[00:28:30] [SPEAKER_00]: on the field by being the best person you can be off the field.

[00:28:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Once you center yourself

[00:28:37] [SPEAKER_00]: and what I do remember now, what I would what I was I was thinking of earlier,

[00:28:41] [SPEAKER_00]: I was going to say something at one point, you know, who do they bring in?

[00:28:46] [SPEAKER_00]: They brought in a college football or American football coach

[00:28:51] [SPEAKER_00]: to to coach this group of college aged men like they're literally.

[00:28:57] [SPEAKER_00]: And so he comes over here and he's like, oh, hey, you know, beard.

[00:29:02] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I don't care about wins and losses.

[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but they do back there.

[00:29:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Back in Kansas, it was all we were coaching

[00:29:11] [SPEAKER_00]: college kids.

[00:29:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, these kids aren't fucking different.

[00:29:14] [SPEAKER_00]: They flat out, they aren't different.

[00:29:17] [SPEAKER_00]: It's still all about developing the person,

[00:29:20] [SPEAKER_00]: developing the men, developing the personality, developing the respect.

[00:29:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Which is what allows you just like Trent said in season three

[00:29:30] [SPEAKER_00]: by thousands of imperceptible

[00:29:32] [SPEAKER_00]: communications over the course of three years.

[00:29:35] [SPEAKER_00]: You haven't changed in a week.

[00:29:36] [SPEAKER_00]: You've changed over three years.

[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no shit.

[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_00]: That's what being a fucking good person and being a fucking solid coach is.

[00:29:43] [SPEAKER_00]: It's creating that culture of acceptance.

[00:29:46] [SPEAKER_00]: It's creating a culture of change and that support from one to another.

[00:29:51] [SPEAKER_00]: And it's total fucking football from the very goddamn beginning.

[00:29:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Sorry.

[00:29:58] [SPEAKER_00]: But yes, I mean, it's

[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_00]: all of those good points.

[00:30:03] [SPEAKER_00]: And then sorry about that.

[00:30:05] [SPEAKER_04]: No, no, I was inspired.

[00:30:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I was fantastic.

[00:30:07] [SPEAKER_01]: You're doing a great job.

[00:30:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Loved it.

[00:30:10] [SPEAKER_04]: So in addition to Nate and Nate's storyline, which I think we're all in agreement

[00:30:15] [SPEAKER_04]: we do, I think we all kind of see a little bit differently upon the second

[00:30:19] [SPEAKER_04]: viewing. What what others, if any, do you guys think where

[00:30:25] [SPEAKER_04]: you viewed a little bit differently could be in the positive,

[00:30:27] [SPEAKER_04]: could be in a negative aspect?

[00:30:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Like what other storylines do you think do you do you think your opinion

[00:30:32] [SPEAKER_04]: changed on upon the second viewing?

[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_00]: I thought that fucking sorry.

[00:30:37] [SPEAKER_00]: I thought that fucking, I don't know, super twat.

[00:30:41] [SPEAKER_00]: What if it was his name?

[00:30:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Cooper? No.

[00:30:44] [SPEAKER_00]: The other one, Shandy Zava.

[00:30:46] [SPEAKER_00]: No, no.

[00:30:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Fucking Sam.

[00:30:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:30:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Jack.

[00:30:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Was even a coup who was fucking even worse the second time.

[00:30:55] [SPEAKER_00]: It was so.

[00:30:57] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what? That's a great call.

[00:30:59] [SPEAKER_01]: We totally agree.

[00:31:00] [SPEAKER_01]: That's a great call.

[00:31:01] [SPEAKER_00]: That's St.

[00:31:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Richardson did it even fucking better.

[00:31:04] [SPEAKER_00]: You nailed it.

[00:31:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Same thing, right?

[00:31:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I was like, holy shit.

[00:31:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I, I hate him even more,

[00:31:12] [SPEAKER_00]: even knowing that he's going to get his comeuppance.

[00:31:15] [SPEAKER_00]: He's going to get you know, he's not going to be able to pull through

[00:31:17] [SPEAKER_00]: with everything.

[00:31:19] [SPEAKER_00]: But he but Sam Richardson was one the writing.

[00:31:21] [SPEAKER_00]: I have to give full blown credit to the writing.

[00:31:25] [SPEAKER_00]: But his performance was so fucking twat worthy.

[00:31:29] [SPEAKER_00]: And it was he's hilarious.

[00:31:32] [SPEAKER_01]: He is he's hilarious.

[00:31:34] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know. Did you ever see him?

[00:31:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Do you remember him in the Tomorrow War?

[00:31:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. Yep.

[00:31:39] [SPEAKER_01]: And when he's just falling, he's running down the stairs

[00:31:42] [SPEAKER_01]: and he's going, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit.

[00:31:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Like hilarious.

[00:31:48] [SPEAKER_00]: I will plug the after party because he is amazing in the after party.

[00:31:52] [SPEAKER_02]: OK. Yes. Yes.

[00:31:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. So so good.

[00:31:55] [SPEAKER_00]: And he's a main character in both in both seasons.

[00:31:58] [SPEAKER_00]: And it is hysterical.

[00:31:59] [SPEAKER_00]: It is what I watched after Ted Lasso when I was missing comedy.

[00:32:03] [SPEAKER_00]: And it was absolutely great.

[00:32:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I love Sam. Can we just get a new girl, too?

[00:32:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. Can we just go back?

[00:32:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Can we just go back for a second and talk about how many names

[00:32:16] [SPEAKER_04]: got thrown out there when Greg said the super con?

[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_04]: He couldn't remember who it was.

[00:32:21] [SPEAKER_04]: There were a bunch.

[00:32:23] [SPEAKER_04]: There were a bunch of we had Rupert, Shandy, Zava.

[00:32:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Like we had a bunch of names get thrown out there.

[00:32:30] [SPEAKER_04]: It's my answer.

[00:32:31] [SPEAKER_05]: I can't I can't say how much Anthony

[00:32:34] [SPEAKER_05]: Steward head does such a good job.

[00:32:37] [SPEAKER_05]: Giles, my man.

[00:32:39] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. And we're doing this rewatch of Buffy.

[00:32:41] [SPEAKER_05]: So I'm seeing both both ends of the spectrum of Giles.

[00:32:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Are you getting the Ben's?

[00:32:47] [SPEAKER_02]: It's wild. Yeah, exactly.

[00:32:49] [SPEAKER_05]: I love it here.

[00:32:51] [SPEAKER_05]: But God, I hate him over here.

[00:32:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Emotional whiplash plays it.

[00:32:55] [SPEAKER_05]: He played it so well.

[00:32:57] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, we talked just wickedly.

[00:32:59] [SPEAKER_04]: We talked about we talked a little bit about that on the last episode, too,

[00:33:02] [SPEAKER_04]: about how he's come out and said that he just loved being a part of this series.

[00:33:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Like even if it was to play the villain, he just crushed it.

[00:33:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Do you think that he was wearing like a silk robe?

[00:33:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Because to me, he was wearing in that last episode when he was walking off

[00:33:16] [SPEAKER_01]: the pitch, it looks like he was like in his robe and slippers

[00:33:19] [SPEAKER_01]: and he was like hobbling off of the field.

[00:33:22] [SPEAKER_03]: I think that as you know what, guys, we've been setting this up

[00:33:25] [SPEAKER_03]: is as he's going to be Vader all season.

[00:33:27] [SPEAKER_03]: We're going full in.

[00:33:28] [SPEAKER_03]: We're just going to go full Vader on him and give you what you want.

[00:33:31] [SPEAKER_03]: I thought that was just the costume department saying, like, here you go.

[00:33:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Here's Anakin.

[00:33:34] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we had cape moments and shadow moments, you know,

[00:33:39] [SPEAKER_01]: and he had his big office window wearing that jacket chair

[00:33:44] [SPEAKER_00]: wearing that jacket.

[00:33:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely flashed me back to Grandma's Boy where

[00:33:50] [SPEAKER_00]: all right, Morpheus.

[00:33:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Like I was just like cost of the matrix.

[00:33:55] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the matrix obviously was like the like almost like the inspiration.

[00:34:00] [SPEAKER_00]: But like I think that the Darth Vader vibe is actually a really good observation.

[00:34:04] [SPEAKER_00]: But I could not could not get the the goofy dipshit out of my head

[00:34:10] [SPEAKER_00]: from Grandma's Boy.

[00:34:11] [SPEAKER_04]: That is such a hugely underrated comedy.

[00:34:16] [SPEAKER_04]: I like it.

[00:34:17] [SPEAKER_04]: So funny. It's great.

[00:34:19] [SPEAKER_04]: I love that movie.

[00:34:20] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't like stupid comedies either.

[00:34:22] [SPEAKER_01]: And I like that one's good.

[00:34:24] [SPEAKER_04]: That was one of those ones that I was skeptical because it's a

[00:34:27] [SPEAKER_04]: it's a Happy Madison production, but it wasn't an Adam Sandler movie.

[00:34:30] [SPEAKER_04]: So I was like, I don't know how this is going to be without Adam.

[00:34:33] [SPEAKER_04]: And it turned out better than most of Adam's movies.

[00:34:36] [SPEAKER_00]: My beef's strong.

[00:34:38] [SPEAKER_00]: That's how I felt about dirty work.

[00:34:40] [SPEAKER_05]: Like, all right, dude, we're going to go crazy together.

[00:34:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, dirty work with

[00:34:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Norm MacDonald.

[00:34:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yes.

[00:34:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Norman Artie Lang.

[00:34:50] [SPEAKER_03]: That's all you need to know.

[00:34:51] [SPEAKER_01]: We are all the same generation.

[00:34:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so I mean, going back to, you know, obviously different things,

[00:35:02] [SPEAKER_04]: you know, Edward Okufu that you mentioned any other ones?

[00:35:05] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, did people see maybe the Roy and Keely

[00:35:08] [SPEAKER_01]: relationship a little different?

[00:35:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I I honestly now because I'm thinking about it as you guys are all talking.

[00:35:15] [SPEAKER_01]: I did not enjoy Rebecca and Sam as much this time around.

[00:35:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Shit, really?

[00:35:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I loved them the first time around.

[00:35:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I just wanted them to work it out.

[00:35:25] [SPEAKER_01]: And this time, just knowing who they were going to come out

[00:35:28] [SPEAKER_01]: to be away from each other.

[00:35:33] [SPEAKER_01]: I just didn't. I don't know.

[00:35:35] [SPEAKER_01]: There was just something about their relationship where I was like, no,

[00:35:37] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't I see now that it doesn't work.

[00:35:39] [SPEAKER_01]: And I guess knowing that it doesn't work made me see why it doesn't work.

[00:35:43] [SPEAKER_01]: And maybe that's why I didn't enjoy it as much the second time around.

[00:35:47] [SPEAKER_03]: I had the exact opposite reaction for the same reason, though, in that crazy

[00:35:52] [SPEAKER_03]: in that because I knew that they both got a happy ending by series end.

[00:35:58] [SPEAKER_03]: I was now OK with the fact that their relationship ended.

[00:36:01] [SPEAKER_03]: I wasn't the first time around.

[00:36:02] [SPEAKER_03]: I was bitter through the finale that they did not end up together.

[00:36:07] [SPEAKER_03]: But knowing the hindsight now when I watch it this time,

[00:36:10] [SPEAKER_03]: I really appreciated the Flying Dutchman.

[00:36:12] [SPEAKER_03]: I really appreciated the cook at the restaurant like I was.

[00:36:15] [SPEAKER_03]: I was mentally allowing that to happen.

[00:36:18] [SPEAKER_03]: So again, same read, completely different results.

[00:36:21] [SPEAKER_04]: It's fascinating. Interesting. Oh, my God.

[00:36:23] [SPEAKER_04]: How did I not realize he's a Flying Dutchman?

[00:36:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I didn't pick it up until he just said it.

[00:36:29] [SPEAKER_04]: How did I not pick up on that until now?

[00:36:34] [SPEAKER_04]: He I don't know. I don't know.

[00:36:36] [SPEAKER_05]: I've never dealt with that.

[00:36:37] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm told the rewatch.

[00:36:38] [SPEAKER_05]: I didn't even remember that she meets him at the airport.

[00:36:41] [SPEAKER_05]: It didn't. I don't know.

[00:36:43] [SPEAKER_01]: You block it out of your memory.

[00:36:45] [SPEAKER_05]: Or I blocked it out or what?

[00:36:46] [SPEAKER_05]: No, I literally didn't remember that scene at all.

[00:36:48] [SPEAKER_05]: When that scene played out in the last episode, I was like,

[00:36:50] [SPEAKER_05]: like, did this was this in the edit that I watched?

[00:36:53] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't see in his boat.

[00:36:55] [SPEAKER_03]: He had in he had a picture of Dutch Flying Dutchman.

[00:36:59] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, he was a Flying Dutchman.

[00:37:01] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. And I see all that.

[00:37:03] [SPEAKER_05]: I thought I didn't.

[00:37:06] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't didn't even realize didn't even think

[00:37:10] [SPEAKER_04]: it's ICOG all over again.

[00:37:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Can I can I gripe about one character's deep?

[00:37:16] [SPEAKER_03]: No, absolutely not. We're moving on.

[00:37:18] [SPEAKER_03]: No, I'm just kidding. Go ahead.

[00:37:20] [SPEAKER_03]: So Keely Jones, guys, I they did my girl, Keely,

[00:37:24] [SPEAKER_03]: so dirty in season three.

[00:37:26] [SPEAKER_03]: And like we had such such an example of women's empowerment.

[00:37:31] [SPEAKER_03]: I got two daughters under the age of 10 that can take over the world

[00:37:34] [SPEAKER_03]: if they so choose.

[00:37:35] [SPEAKER_03]: And I want them to believe that they're able to.

[00:37:36] [SPEAKER_03]: And a lady like Keely Jones is the exact type of icon

[00:37:41] [SPEAKER_03]: that they could follow down that path.

[00:37:43] [SPEAKER_03]: But what they did with her season three, making her success

[00:37:45] [SPEAKER_03]: and everything about her dependent on the relationship she had.

[00:37:49] [SPEAKER_03]: That was crap.

[00:37:50] [SPEAKER_03]: And I I'm really, really upset with what they did

[00:37:53] [SPEAKER_03]: with Keely Jones's character for nine tenths of the final season.

[00:37:56] [SPEAKER_01]: All right. So I agree.

[00:37:58] [SPEAKER_00]: So I agree.

[00:37:59] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not I'm not disagreeing with you.

[00:38:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, you are.

[00:38:04] [SPEAKER_03]: That sounds like a boy.

[00:38:05] [SPEAKER_01]: I agree with my father.

[00:38:08] [SPEAKER_03]: I always said, always ignore everything before, but

[00:38:11] [SPEAKER_03]: however, thank you.

[00:38:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, good boy.

[00:38:16] [SPEAKER_04]: I was waiting for it.

[00:38:21] [SPEAKER_00]: The the her dependence on a relationship is the way that you viewed it.

[00:38:28] [SPEAKER_00]: The way that I've viewed it was.

[00:38:33] [SPEAKER_00]: The fallout of the trauma of Roy breaking up with her.

[00:38:38] [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't think of it as, hey, I'm only the I'm only valued by the relationship

[00:38:44] [SPEAKER_00]: that I'm in and because Roy didn't want me, I'm not worthy of anything.

[00:38:49] [SPEAKER_00]: I absolutely viewed.

[00:38:50] [SPEAKER_00]: So no, I absolutely viewed it as a.

[00:38:56] [SPEAKER_00]: I know what happened to me when my wife left me.

[00:39:00] [SPEAKER_00]: I know that I was a fucking mess for months

[00:39:07] [SPEAKER_00]: into probably, well, yeah, probably a year, year and a half.

[00:39:11] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, in all honesty, I'm probably still fucking dealing with that.

[00:39:14] [SPEAKER_00]: And that was eight years ago.

[00:39:16] [SPEAKER_00]: But I know that I absolutely had three to five months.

[00:39:22] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, and I was I was a fucking wreck.

[00:39:26] [SPEAKER_00]: And like you're talking a couple of months, the off season for the

[00:39:30] [SPEAKER_00]: for the season, the way that I viewed it.

[00:39:33] [SPEAKER_00]: And again, you absolutely may be right.

[00:39:35] [SPEAKER_00]: I think that it did have a step back.

[00:39:39] [SPEAKER_00]: And Jack being a rebound, you guys had talked about Rupert and Nate.

[00:39:44] [SPEAKER_00]: And and but I was you were talking about it.

[00:39:46] [SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, oh, that was that was the that was the love bombing, right?

[00:39:49] [SPEAKER_00]: It was him giving Nate a car.

[00:39:51] [SPEAKER_00]: It was the same as Jack giving Keely the

[00:39:55] [SPEAKER_00]: the fucking first bound edition and defacing a historical fucking treasure.

[00:40:01] [SPEAKER_03]: But, you know, really, I agree with you because

[00:40:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Rupert gave a job and then Jack gave her also a company.

[00:40:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you know, so yeah, 100 percent.

[00:40:11] [SPEAKER_01]: That's what I thought that you were talking about with the relationship was when you

[00:40:14] [SPEAKER_01]: because it when everything went to crap with Jack and and Keely,

[00:40:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Jack took it all away.

[00:40:21] [SPEAKER_01]: And what that showed is that she couldn't recover from that

[00:40:24] [SPEAKER_01]: until her friend dug her out of it instead of her being able to build

[00:40:29] [SPEAKER_01]: something for herself.

[00:40:31] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that it was dependent on her relationship with Roy.

[00:40:34] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it was dependent on her relationship with Jamie.

[00:40:36] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that she is confident in who she is as an independent woman

[00:40:39] [SPEAKER_01]: without a man.

[00:40:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I do think that she was, as Alex reminded us,

[00:40:46] [SPEAKER_01]: love bombed by Jack.

[00:40:47] [SPEAKER_01]: But the minute that it got sticky, that it got hard,

[00:40:51] [SPEAKER_01]: you know, that that it became a bad look for her family

[00:40:55] [SPEAKER_01]: or for her father, for her, whatever.

[00:40:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe she's not out.

[00:40:59] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't even know if she's not out.

[00:41:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe she's not out.

[00:41:03] [SPEAKER_01]: But she took everything away from Keely, everything.

[00:41:08] [SPEAKER_01]: And that is what disappointed me, is that Keely should have known

[00:41:13] [SPEAKER_01]: from the start with how smart she is business wise, people wise,

[00:41:18] [SPEAKER_01]: relationship wise.

[00:41:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Keely should have should have known, no, this person owns my company

[00:41:24] [SPEAKER_01]: or is funding my company.

[00:41:25] [SPEAKER_01]: I am not going to get into a relationship with this person like

[00:41:29] [SPEAKER_01]: she would tell other people not to do that.

[00:41:33] [SPEAKER_01]: So it she wouldn't like it's it's it's so not Keely

[00:41:37] [SPEAKER_01]: to do something like that and to become the submissive part

[00:41:40] [SPEAKER_01]: of a relationship.

[00:41:41] [SPEAKER_01]: And in season three, we see Keely submissive

[00:41:46] [SPEAKER_01]: and she's making like her decision with Shandi was fucked.

[00:41:52] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, bringing her on.

[00:41:54] [SPEAKER_01]: And I see why she wanted to do it.

[00:41:56] [SPEAKER_01]: She wanted to do it to make it to prove that maybe

[00:41:59] [SPEAKER_01]: she was like a Rebecca, that she could mentor somebody.

[00:42:02] [SPEAKER_01]: But she hasn't grown up yet.

[00:42:04] [SPEAKER_01]: She like the show didn't give her the room to grow up

[00:42:08] [SPEAKER_01]: like everybody else on the show got to grow up.

[00:42:12] [SPEAKER_01]: I agree with you, Alex.

[00:42:13] [SPEAKER_01]: And it seems that they stunted Keely's growth.

[00:42:15] [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not really sure why.

[00:42:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, and it's like the moment to it.

[00:42:21] [SPEAKER_01]: It is the Petriot, damn it.

[00:42:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Except this time it was fucking Jack.

[00:42:25] [SPEAKER_03]: It's the weirdest thing because the moment Jack just season two ended.

[00:42:29] [SPEAKER_03]: He stopped it.

[00:42:32] [SPEAKER_00]: If we make Jack a woman, it's not the Patriot.

[00:42:34] [SPEAKER_00]: So that's cool.

[00:42:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly.

[00:42:37] [SPEAKER_01]: I bet you that's why they did it.

[00:42:39] [SPEAKER_00]: There you go.

[00:42:42] [SPEAKER_01]: That's why those men did it.

[00:42:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you very much.

[00:42:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[00:42:47] [SPEAKER_04]: I didn't have to push the button.

[00:42:48] [SPEAKER_04]: We get it for real with Steve.

[00:42:51] [SPEAKER_04]: We got a live Jack just sucks.

[00:42:53] [SPEAKER_05]: I yeah, I like that that analysis because it really was.

[00:42:56] [SPEAKER_05]: And that's why it's disappointing what they did with her.

[00:43:00] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm glad that she kind of comes back there at the end with Rebecca,

[00:43:06] [SPEAKER_05]: being like, oh, that's all you need?

[00:43:09] [SPEAKER_05]: That's like I have that in my couch cushions.

[00:43:12] [SPEAKER_05]: I can give you that much money.

[00:43:15] [SPEAKER_05]: So she's not like getting millions of dollars.

[00:43:17] [SPEAKER_05]: She's going to start a firm with just her and Barbara.

[00:43:22] [SPEAKER_05]: And she's not going to be handed this huge firm.

[00:43:24] [SPEAKER_05]: She's going to be handed a little firm and now she's going to grow it.

[00:43:27] [SPEAKER_05]: And so hopefully we might well, we're going to talk about that.

[00:43:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I mean, and I kind of touched base on that upon our coverage as well

[00:43:34] [SPEAKER_04]: with the whole thing with why didn't Rebecca just give her the money

[00:43:37] [SPEAKER_04]: to do this from the beginning?

[00:43:38] [SPEAKER_04]: And it's because Rebecca, from a mentor's perspective,

[00:43:44] [SPEAKER_04]: needed needed Keely to be able to do this on her own.

[00:43:47] [SPEAKER_04]: She needed to be able to support herself without this.

[00:43:52] [SPEAKER_04]: She needed to be an independent person.

[00:43:53] [SPEAKER_04]: She needed to be the independent person that Rebecca always knew she was.

[00:43:58] [SPEAKER_04]: And also, but at the same time, almost in a motherly

[00:44:03] [SPEAKER_04]: the matriarchy, you know, kind of way.

[00:44:06] [SPEAKER_04]: She also just like any parent does with their child.

[00:44:08] [SPEAKER_04]: You need to allow your you need to allow them to make their own mistakes

[00:44:11] [SPEAKER_04]: and learn from their mistakes.

[00:44:13] [SPEAKER_04]: And that was what Keely went through.

[00:44:16] [SPEAKER_04]: I agree with you that upon rewatching, it is kind of.

[00:44:21] [SPEAKER_04]: It does make Keely submissive and it kind of degrades the character.

[00:44:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Now, degrades the characters a bad way to put it.

[00:44:28] [SPEAKER_01]: No, that's a great way to put it.

[00:44:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, is it insult to me?

[00:44:32] [SPEAKER_04]: I think the means is probably a better word than degrade.

[00:44:35] [SPEAKER_04]: But it does. It demeans the character.

[00:44:37] [SPEAKER_04]: It demeans Keely as a character by the way they did it.

[00:44:41] [SPEAKER_04]: So I don't know.

[00:44:45] [SPEAKER_04]: I I kind of blew past.

[00:44:48] [SPEAKER_04]: I guess similar to the same way you guys did with Rebecca and Sam,

[00:44:52] [SPEAKER_04]: I kind of just blew past the Keely Jack relationship upon the second viewing

[00:44:56] [SPEAKER_04]: because I knew it was going to end.

[00:44:58] [SPEAKER_03]: It was so dumb.

[00:44:59] [SPEAKER_03]: It was just it was just filler, just like Zava, just like Shandy.

[00:45:02] [SPEAKER_00]: It was just filler on on second viewing or not say second

[00:45:06] [SPEAKER_00]: on when I was doing the rewatch you guys.

[00:45:08] [SPEAKER_00]: I it was my least favorite storyline.

[00:45:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Like Keely was unfortunately Keely up until the last couple of episodes

[00:45:16] [SPEAKER_00]: was my least favorite storyline.

[00:45:19] [SPEAKER_00]: And by least favorite, I mean one, I didn't really give a shit about

[00:45:22] [SPEAKER_00]: just because I knew how it ended.

[00:45:23] [SPEAKER_00]: But I was just like, this is just what I have to wait,

[00:45:26] [SPEAKER_00]: wait through to get to Roy or Jamie.

[00:45:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Right. It's like they forgot to include her in the story

[00:45:34] [SPEAKER_01]: when they were storyboarding the kid, the whole show.

[00:45:38] [SPEAKER_01]: They just forgot about her.

[00:45:40] [SPEAKER_01]: And maybe that was the case.

[00:45:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe she was more popular than they thought she was going to be.

[00:45:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe she wasn't going to be a main character in season three.

[00:45:49] [SPEAKER_01]: And that would have been better than giving her a side a side story

[00:45:53] [SPEAKER_01]: that really was completely disconnected to the rest of the overarching story.

[00:45:59] [SPEAKER_01]: She you could lift her out.

[00:46:01] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think it would be the same.

[00:46:04] [SPEAKER_04]: I think the most interesting part of Keely's story in season three

[00:46:06] [SPEAKER_04]: was getting to meet Barbara.

[00:46:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Because Barbara became a fantastic character by the end.

[00:46:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Barbara was a lot of fun, but was we need it?

[00:46:17] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I was just enough of a value add

[00:46:20] [SPEAKER_03]: to make up for the value minus of what they did with the character.

[00:46:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, no. Barbara was on the scales.

[00:46:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Barbara was purely a character who in the beginning was kind of comic relief

[00:46:31] [SPEAKER_04]: and then was used to build up Keely as a character again.

[00:46:35] [SPEAKER_04]: But had you never tore her down to begin with,

[00:46:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Barbara would have never even been needed.

[00:46:41] [SPEAKER_04]: If that makes sense.

[00:46:42] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know. I think Barbara got more out of Keely than Keely got out of Barbara.

[00:46:48] [SPEAKER_04]: I can see that, too.

[00:46:50] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know. I think you could have added.

[00:46:52] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, because I like I like the I like the Barbara character a lot.

[00:46:57] [SPEAKER_01]: That could have been written in easily and kept Keely joined to the club.

[00:47:03] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, she was just there.

[00:47:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Her and the rest of the story just never really connected

[00:47:09] [SPEAKER_01]: until maybe the last two episodes.

[00:47:12] [SPEAKER_03]: And by then it felt forced.

[00:47:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I felt like, all right, we well, we need to tie things up

[00:47:16] [SPEAKER_03]: because, you know, Jason's done after season three.

[00:47:19] [SPEAKER_03]: So yes.

[00:47:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I can see that.

[00:47:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Any other storylines that you guys can think of outside of the ones

[00:47:27] [SPEAKER_04]: we've already talked about that maybe you view a little differently

[00:47:30] [SPEAKER_04]: upon the second view?

[00:47:32] [SPEAKER_03]: I've got 30 seconds.

[00:47:34] [SPEAKER_03]: The boys at the pub going from also rams to heartfelt,

[00:47:38] [SPEAKER_03]: lovely parts of the ensemble and part owners of the club like

[00:47:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Baz, Paul, Jeremy forever in my hearts.

[00:47:43] [SPEAKER_03]: You guys are the fans and you speak for us.

[00:47:46] [SPEAKER_03]: So thank you. Sure.

[00:47:47] [SPEAKER_03]: I adore that they're their little journey to just being so freaking wonderful.

[00:47:51] [SPEAKER_03]: I love it.

[00:47:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, so, you know what?

[00:47:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Let's use that kind of then.

[00:47:54] [SPEAKER_04]: And let's talk about some of our favorite characters from the run

[00:47:57] [SPEAKER_04]: of the show, because there's definitely a number of them.

[00:48:00] [SPEAKER_04]: And I know for a fact that there are some characters I loved even more

[00:48:04] [SPEAKER_04]: the second time around than I did the first.

[00:48:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Trent Crimm, the independent.

[00:48:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Trent Crimm, the independent.

[00:48:11] [SPEAKER_04]: That was exactly the one that was in my head, because I mean, upon first viewing

[00:48:15] [SPEAKER_04]: and even more so in the second viewing, I mean, come on, like Roy Kent is

[00:48:20] [SPEAKER_04]: he is my spirit guide.

[00:48:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Like he is a guy I want to be.

[00:48:25] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, when I get older, I have five different versions of Roy

[00:48:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Kent Funko Pops in my apartment right now.

[00:48:31] [SPEAKER_04]: It's but Trent Crimm is one of those characters that I just

[00:48:35] [SPEAKER_04]: I loved him the first time and I just adored him the second

[00:48:40] [SPEAKER_04]: so much more than I did the first time.

[00:48:42] [SPEAKER_05]: I have to admit, I didn't I didn't really pay much attention

[00:48:45] [SPEAKER_05]: to Trent the first the first time around.

[00:48:48] [SPEAKER_05]: But in this second viewing, I was so appreciated the character

[00:48:51] [SPEAKER_05]: and what he brought to the story, you know, from from being a reporter

[00:48:56] [SPEAKER_05]: and being the one who breaks the story about Ted's anxiety attack

[00:49:01] [SPEAKER_05]: to then going to Ted and saying, hey, I'm the one who who wrote this.

[00:49:06] [SPEAKER_05]: I was told this from this person and Nate told me this.

[00:49:10] [SPEAKER_05]: And he went and he comes clean with Ted because I'm a reporter.

[00:49:13] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm doing my job. I'm just doing my job.

[00:49:15] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, so I really appreciated his character a whole lot more

[00:49:18] [SPEAKER_05]: in this second this rewatch than I had ever before.

[00:49:22] [SPEAKER_03]: I'll admit that.

[00:49:24] [SPEAKER_03]: I always thought he was snazzy and debonair.

[00:49:26] [SPEAKER_03]: And then so I just I always love Trent.

[00:49:28] [SPEAKER_03]: And then and then you just you have such a great chance to enjoy him

[00:49:31] [SPEAKER_03]: on the second go through.

[00:49:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it wasn't enough of him.

[00:49:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Season three really let Trent shine.

[00:49:40] [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know if it was necessarily like.

[00:49:45] [SPEAKER_00]: What is it?

[00:49:46] [SPEAKER_00]: The the magical American Negro, is that what is

[00:49:50] [SPEAKER_00]: is that what the thing is?

[00:49:52] [SPEAKER_00]: But hey, you need you need an experienced gay man

[00:49:55] [SPEAKER_00]: to assist and help the younger gay man under down the path of the journey.

[00:50:01] [SPEAKER_00]: I know that none either of them are in fact black, but that's I was just

[00:50:06] [SPEAKER_00]: the one that one that helps like right there, the older

[00:50:09] [SPEAKER_00]: the older black janitor or the.

[00:50:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Shut up, guys.

[00:50:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Like you know what I'm talking about?

[00:50:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Just keep digging, just keep digging.

[00:50:20] [SPEAKER_01]: I realize that none of them are black, but

[00:50:25] [SPEAKER_01]: I was totally with it for a second.

[00:50:27] [SPEAKER_04]: I was I was rolling with your analogy on the plane.

[00:50:31] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to land it.

[00:50:32] [SPEAKER_04]: I was totally in with your analogy until Kristen started laughing

[00:50:35] [SPEAKER_04]: and then I couldn't I couldn't help it.

[00:50:38] [SPEAKER_00]: But I think that giving giving him that backstory of like

[00:50:44] [SPEAKER_00]: we know he's got a daughter and we know that he was married and they want to.

[00:50:48] [SPEAKER_00]: And then I I really thought that he had an opportunity to shine in season three.

[00:50:52] [SPEAKER_00]: And I agree he is he is phenomenal.

[00:50:55] [SPEAKER_00]: But if I may pivot, pivot.

[00:51:01] [SPEAKER_01]: From the magical Negro American.

[00:51:06] [SPEAKER_03]: It's going to be a hard pivot there, Tom.

[00:51:09] [SPEAKER_01]: The the overused trope of old strategy cotton.

[00:51:13] [SPEAKER_04]: Let's see if it works for him.

[00:51:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Allow me to pivot gracefully.

[00:51:20] [SPEAKER_00]: So everybody needs a new pair of shorts.

[00:51:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I guess so the

[00:51:26] [SPEAKER_04]: but wasn't it a white couch that they were carrying up

[00:51:29] [SPEAKER_04]: with the stairs and friends to?

[00:51:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, sorry.

[00:51:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Go ahead.

[00:51:34] [SPEAKER_00]: The character that I appreciated

[00:51:38] [SPEAKER_00]: much more from a whole character aspect on

[00:51:44] [SPEAKER_00]: the this particular rewatch was Mr.

[00:51:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Leslie Higgins.

[00:51:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Now he was always a treasure.

[00:51:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, but I I didn't appreciate the fact that he was as steady as he was

[00:52:01] [SPEAKER_00]: until watching it two or three or four times, because I mean, yes,

[00:52:07] [SPEAKER_00]: he's like the yes man and the I feel bad that I did those things.

[00:52:12] [SPEAKER_00]: But fuck off.

[00:52:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I was I was so proud of him the first time I watched it.

[00:52:17] [SPEAKER_00]: And then by the by the third or fourth time, I was like,

[00:52:20] [SPEAKER_00]: oh, man, you have got such an amazing way to go and you're

[00:52:25] [SPEAKER_00]: you're going to kill it.

[00:52:26] [SPEAKER_00]: But he like he doesn't develop.

[00:52:29] [SPEAKER_00]: He develops over season one because he feels bad about what he did

[00:52:32] [SPEAKER_00]: and how he helped Rupert.

[00:52:35] [SPEAKER_00]: And then he just wants to help the club and Rebecca.

[00:52:38] [SPEAKER_00]: And but then he is just

[00:52:41] [SPEAKER_00]: he is the bedrock of that club behind the scenes.

[00:52:46] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's such a great call.

[00:52:48] [SPEAKER_01]: He that is the old trope of the old wise owl.

[00:52:55] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm not hearing it against the world.

[00:52:57] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, he's he's just he's just the study.

[00:53:01] [SPEAKER_05]: He was just a steady character that there there was no growth needed

[00:53:04] [SPEAKER_05]: because he was there.

[00:53:05] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, he was right.

[00:53:07] [SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm being very serious.

[00:53:08] [SPEAKER_01]: He's the wise old owl of Richmond.

[00:53:11] [SPEAKER_05]: No, I'm with you.

[00:53:12] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm totally agree with you on that.

[00:53:13] [SPEAKER_05]: And that's what I'm saying is, is Christian is that that he's he was

[00:53:16] [SPEAKER_05]: a complete character.

[00:53:18] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, by the end of season one, we have a complete because we have this

[00:53:21] [SPEAKER_05]: where he realizes what he had done helping Rupert was bad.

[00:53:24] [SPEAKER_05]: And he comes back to being just the bedrock of he's the complete character.

[00:53:30] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you know, so many nuggets of wisdom

[00:53:34] [SPEAKER_00]: throughout the entire run of the show.

[00:53:37] [SPEAKER_00]: I could probably off the top of my head,

[00:53:40] [SPEAKER_00]: I could probably come up with four or five of them.

[00:53:41] [SPEAKER_00]: There are at least 30

[00:53:44] [SPEAKER_00]: between talking to Jamie about forgiving him or accepting his dad

[00:53:48] [SPEAKER_00]: for what he is and forgiving him for what he isn't.

[00:53:52] [SPEAKER_00]: The what would he tells Roy in the finale?

[00:53:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that was perfect.

[00:53:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Like there are just so many moments where Leslie is like

[00:54:01] [SPEAKER_00]: and the fact that he has been hosting Christmas at his fucking house

[00:54:06] [SPEAKER_00]: for God knows how many years.

[00:54:09] [SPEAKER_00]: And it took the culture of acceptance and togetherness

[00:54:14] [SPEAKER_00]: that Ted brought in to, I mean, just explode that into a club wide phenomenon.

[00:54:21] [SPEAKER_04]: And Christmas is the only is the only gathering we actually see.

[00:54:25] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, by the end of this, by the end of the series,

[00:54:27] [SPEAKER_04]: when they're doing the whole montage, we see them having a barbecue outside.

[00:54:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that was Christmas. That was definitely more.

[00:54:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, that's what I mean.

[00:54:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Like who's to say how many other holidays or times a year

[00:54:37] [SPEAKER_04]: he's hosting these people at his house?

[00:54:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. You know, that's what I'm saying.

[00:54:41] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like they probably always no matter where they went.

[00:54:45] [SPEAKER_01]: I bet you they this particular team always stayed in connection

[00:54:48] [SPEAKER_01]: with each other for sure.

[00:54:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely. Or played on that team for as long as they could

[00:54:53] [SPEAKER_01]: until it was time to get fresh meat in there.

[00:54:55] [SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, whatever.

[00:54:58] [SPEAKER_01]: But I was just going to say, you know, with all those

[00:55:02] [SPEAKER_01]: those Higgins nuggets that you were talking about, Greg,

[00:55:04] [SPEAKER_01]: what's funny to me is that, you know, you never knew where to find him either.

[00:55:09] [SPEAKER_01]: But if you found him, you were going to get a really good conversation

[00:55:13] [SPEAKER_01]: and some good advice.

[00:55:15] [SPEAKER_01]: But you had to find the guy

[00:55:16] [SPEAKER_01]: just he's like the rolling cart of the whole play.

[00:55:21] [SPEAKER_00]: By the way, you guys were absolutely correct.

[00:55:23] [SPEAKER_00]: There's no fucking way that AFC Richmond doesn't have some meeting room

[00:55:27] [SPEAKER_00]: he would be using it as his fucking office.

[00:55:29] [SPEAKER_00]: The director of football operations.

[00:55:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Bullshit. CR one is out there.

[00:55:36] [SPEAKER_03]: I one of the so one of the character developments

[00:55:39] [SPEAKER_03]: I really enjoyed was Jade first time versus second time.

[00:55:43] [SPEAKER_03]: So the first time you see Jade in season two, you're like, all right,

[00:55:46] [SPEAKER_03]: this shit's kind of annoying.

[00:55:47] [SPEAKER_03]: They get to season three.

[00:55:48] [SPEAKER_03]: You're like, all right, it's kind of cute.

[00:55:50] [SPEAKER_03]: But then you rewatch.

[00:55:51] [SPEAKER_03]: You're like, OK, this is one of the strongest relationships in the show.

[00:55:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Like as far as boyfriend, girlfriend, simpatico,

[00:55:58] [SPEAKER_03]: really, really complimentary, like she's

[00:56:01] [SPEAKER_03]: absolutely amazing for Nate.

[00:56:03] [SPEAKER_03]: And I just I loved her so much more this time around,

[00:56:07] [SPEAKER_03]: knowing where the journey was going to go.

[00:56:09] [SPEAKER_03]: I adore Jade.

[00:56:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Agree. I'll throw another one out there to another character

[00:56:14] [SPEAKER_04]: I enjoyed watching the second time, more so the second time around to is Isaac.

[00:56:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I loved watching Isaac.

[00:56:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Like I love knowing the journey of who Isaac becomes and like

[00:56:27] [SPEAKER_04]: he's another character that kind of has to find confidence while at the same time

[00:56:31] [SPEAKER_04]: he's instilling his protection on Colin.

[00:56:34] [SPEAKER_04]: And but I mean, remember in season one, he is a bully.

[00:56:37] [SPEAKER_04]: He is a bully to Nate, him and Colin both.

[00:56:40] [SPEAKER_04]: So to see the journey he makes from season one to being the captain

[00:56:44] [SPEAKER_04]: who takes his first ever penalty shot in the big game

[00:56:49] [SPEAKER_04]: and making the shot like that is such a fun journey to watch.

[00:56:54] [SPEAKER_04]: And it only gets stronger in season three.

[00:56:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I never understood in season one

[00:57:01] [SPEAKER_03]: why Roy gave it to Isaac, but I eventually did.

[00:57:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Like I I feel like they didn't develop the character enough

[00:57:07] [SPEAKER_03]: in season one for me to understand why.

[00:57:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, he doesn't give it to Isaac until season two.

[00:57:12] [SPEAKER_03]: I thought he had to give it to him at the end of season one.

[00:57:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, no, you're right. That's your right. Yeah.

[00:57:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Roy was still a player. Turned it over.

[00:57:19] [SPEAKER_03]: That's right. Right.

[00:57:20] [SPEAKER_03]: But I just I thought Isaac was an interesting choice

[00:57:23] [SPEAKER_03]: and I never quite understood it.

[00:57:24] [SPEAKER_03]: But I was happy that they then did go back and develop that character.

[00:57:27] [SPEAKER_03]: So we did understand why he made that choice, because I agree.

[00:57:30] [SPEAKER_03]: He is a great arc.

[00:57:32] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, we can't deny the scene where he gives him the break

[00:57:35] [SPEAKER_04]: that gives him the band is one of the funniest scenes in the entire series.

[00:57:39] [SPEAKER_04]: When he tosses it to him and it just lands on Roy's head

[00:57:43] [SPEAKER_04]: and beards in the back, like it was a surprise shot face.

[00:57:46] [SPEAKER_04]: It's like, I'm sorry, Chris, and I cut you off.

[00:57:50] [SPEAKER_01]: No, I totally forgot now. It's fine.

[00:57:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Are you sure it wasn't a trope of some kind that we were going to?

[00:57:57] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know. He has a break about that one.

[00:58:00] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I agree. I think for the one character,

[00:58:03] [SPEAKER_05]: if I had to pick one character who I really appreciated more in this rewatch

[00:58:06] [SPEAKER_05]: was Rebecca was not that I didn't appreciate her in the first

[00:58:09] [SPEAKER_05]: the first watch, but I think in this second watch, seeing her go

[00:58:13] [SPEAKER_05]: from being wanting to tear down the team to at the end of it,

[00:58:18] [SPEAKER_05]: making the fans part owners, but keeping her majority ownership,

[00:58:24] [SPEAKER_05]: but giving the rest of that to the fans

[00:58:26] [SPEAKER_05]: was just it's an amazing art to have what her character goes through.

[00:58:30] [SPEAKER_05]: To from the beginning to the end.

[00:58:32] [SPEAKER_05]: I think I really appreciated Rebecca a lot more in this.

[00:58:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Just her mentoring of Keely,

[00:58:38] [SPEAKER_05]: despite what happened in season three, but we've already talked about that.

[00:58:41] [SPEAKER_05]: But it's just I think seeing her,

[00:58:44] [SPEAKER_05]: I appreciated her more this time around than the first time.

[00:58:47] [SPEAKER_01]: It's really interesting that we all are talking about how much more

[00:58:50] [SPEAKER_01]: we are appreciating these characters, because it it seems that we,

[00:58:56] [SPEAKER_01]: at least in this conversation, really like knowing that whole story

[00:59:01] [SPEAKER_01]: so that we can see the development back of that whole story.

[00:59:05] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think when you have layered characters like this, it is so wonderful

[00:59:10] [SPEAKER_01]: when you have really my lights are changing.

[00:59:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Do you smell burnt toast?

[00:59:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Hold on. You're having a stroke.

[00:59:21] [SPEAKER_03]: ADHD affects one in four humans.

[00:59:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Are you sure it's not are you sure it's not just lights out at Shawshank?

[00:59:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm sorry.

[00:59:33] [SPEAKER_01]: They really they're changing, but it's OK.

[00:59:39] [SPEAKER_01]: OK, I forgot where I was going.

[00:59:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Completely cut off, Kristen straight of thought with that.

[00:59:45] [SPEAKER_00]: So what I would I mean, what I was hearing you say was the

[00:59:50] [SPEAKER_00]: watching it a second time, knowing that whole arc

[00:59:53] [SPEAKER_00]: and watching the development of those characters like is

[00:59:56] [SPEAKER_00]: I think that not only this show, but like

[01:00:01] [SPEAKER_00]: like so many well written shows out there.

[01:00:05] [SPEAKER_00]: They deserve a second watch if you haven't ever watched

[01:00:10] [SPEAKER_00]: the The Sopranos a second time.

[01:00:13] [SPEAKER_00]: The wire. Yeah.

[01:00:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I haven't watched the wire yet.

[01:00:17] [SPEAKER_01]: I've watched I've watched the fire.

[01:00:18] [SPEAKER_00]: I watched the first 10 minutes of the first episode,

[01:00:21] [SPEAKER_00]: and then my kids woke up and I had to turn it off.

[01:00:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, these. Yes, you do.

[01:00:25] [SPEAKER_01]: They're just any show that's really character driven. Right.

[01:00:28] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's I love the the nuanced layers of any character.

[01:00:34] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that this show does an exceptional job

[01:00:37] [SPEAKER_01]: of quietly layering the characters so that by the end of it,

[01:00:41] [SPEAKER_01]: you have this beautiful full character moment

[01:00:45] [SPEAKER_01]: in that barbecue that we see as we kind of pan out of the whole

[01:00:48] [SPEAKER_01]: of the whole world,

[01:00:51] [SPEAKER_01]: that when you go back and you know that you're going

[01:00:54] [SPEAKER_01]: you're headed towards that barbecue, you really appreciate

[01:00:57] [SPEAKER_01]: each character's journey along the way.

[01:01:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. I mean, and I don't think, you know, as far as characters go,

[01:01:06] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think this is one that's any mistake in mentioning.

[01:01:09] [SPEAKER_04]: But because we talked about it a bunch.

[01:01:11] [SPEAKER_04]: But Jamie's growth is Jamie.

[01:01:14] [SPEAKER_04]: It's just one of the biggest arcs of any character in that entire series.

[01:01:18] [SPEAKER_01]: This is the right Jamie redemption arc.

[01:01:22] [SPEAKER_01]: OK, the Jamie Lannister redemption arc. No.

[01:01:26] [SPEAKER_01]: OK, Jamie Tart redemption arc.

[01:01:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Good job, Jason Sudeikis. Great job.

[01:01:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Not that I have feelings about that.

[01:01:35] [SPEAKER_04]: I feel like we have to get Chris in a shirt now that says

[01:01:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Jamie Tart is the true Jamie.

[01:01:41] [SPEAKER_04]: With a Lannister lion or Tart is the true Jamie.

[01:01:45] [SPEAKER_04]: There you go. Gross.

[01:01:49] [SPEAKER_04]: All right.

[01:01:51] [SPEAKER_04]: So let's then let's move on then to our favorite

[01:01:54] [SPEAKER_04]: episodes and moments from the entire series, because

[01:01:58] [SPEAKER_04]: there have been great moments that don't necessarily fall within my favorite episodes.

[01:02:04] [SPEAKER_04]: For example, the dark game in the Diamond Dogs season one,

[01:02:09] [SPEAKER_04]: episode eight is probably one of the greatest scenes of this entire series.

[01:02:13] [SPEAKER_04]: In my opinion. Yeah. Yes.

[01:02:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Hustling Rupert in that dark game, which leads us to the be curious, not judgmental line.

[01:02:22] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, it's not necessarily one of my favorite episodes,

[01:02:24] [SPEAKER_04]: but it easily is one of my favorite moments from the entire series.

[01:02:27] [SPEAKER_05]: Say that would definitely be mine was that the dark.

[01:02:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. Favorite episodes, though.

[01:02:33] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, obviously Sunflowers is up there.

[01:02:36] [SPEAKER_04]: But I mean, Carol, the bells to me for being what it is.

[01:02:42] [SPEAKER_00]: I got all the bells.

[01:02:44] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm on your team, Greg. It's a drag.

[01:02:46] [SPEAKER_00]: No, no, I say Carol the Bells with just awe,

[01:02:51] [SPEAKER_00]: because to me it is it is absolutely it is about it.

[01:02:57] [SPEAKER_00]: It is immediate Christmas watch for me.

[01:03:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's it's regular Christmas viewing for me now,

[01:03:03] [SPEAKER_04]: even though it's only been a couple of years.

[01:03:05] [SPEAKER_04]: But, you know, and for an episode that was literally written in as an extra episode,

[01:03:10] [SPEAKER_04]: it was thrown in there just to add two more episodes to.

[01:03:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you know, along with beer after hours was just added to expand the season.

[01:03:19] [SPEAKER_04]: It was not connected to the rest of the season.

[01:03:21] [SPEAKER_04]: And yet is still along with beard after hours is still

[01:03:26] [SPEAKER_04]: one of two of the greatest episodes of this entire series.

[01:03:32] [SPEAKER_04]: And Carol the Bells so much so that no lie we talked about this

[01:03:35] [SPEAKER_04]: when we covered it because I couldn't wait to talk about it

[01:03:37] [SPEAKER_04]: has a particular scene that I could not breathe.

[01:03:43] [SPEAKER_04]: I was laughing so hard.

[01:03:47] [SPEAKER_04]: And it's Roy Kent smelling Phoebe's breath and saying,

[01:03:50] [SPEAKER_04]: I think you might be dying.

[01:03:51] [SPEAKER_04]: I might be dying.

[01:03:53] [SPEAKER_00]: That is the line that I will always remember from this series.

[01:03:59] [SPEAKER_00]: But the look on his face and the tone of it.

[01:04:04] [SPEAKER_04]: And then him hiding behind Keely to gag.

[01:04:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah.

[01:04:12] [SPEAKER_00]: He feels like I can't.

[01:04:16] [SPEAKER_04]: They show it was easily could not breathe during that scene.

[01:04:19] [SPEAKER_03]: The first time I saw it since it's the winter celebration episode,

[01:04:23] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to I'm going to do a little Festivus airing of grievances.

[01:04:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Here's here's my issue with Carol the Bells.

[01:04:28] [SPEAKER_03]: OK, this is why I did not love it.

[01:04:30] [SPEAKER_03]: There are certain times that I really don't want to breathe their episode.

[01:04:34] [SPEAKER_03]: OK, so when the wolves start attacking Alexandria

[01:04:37] [SPEAKER_03]: and now we find out about Morgan in the cheesemaker, like, guess what?

[01:04:40] [SPEAKER_03]: I kind of want to see the attack on Alexandria.

[01:04:42] [SPEAKER_03]: This was the same exact situation because Jamie had just joined the team.

[01:04:47] [SPEAKER_03]: And then we get this filler episode.

[01:04:48] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, come on, guys, I kind of need to know what happens.

[01:04:51] [SPEAKER_03]: And then the next episode is Rainbow.

[01:04:53] [SPEAKER_03]: So we get this Carol the Bells right in between that and Rainbow.

[01:04:56] [SPEAKER_03]: And it just it really killed my mojo.

[01:04:58] [SPEAKER_03]: And I understood it was made after the fact.

[01:04:59] [SPEAKER_03]: But the timing of where it was placed in the season

[01:05:02] [SPEAKER_03]: really grinded my gears.

[01:05:04] [SPEAKER_01]: I can appreciate that is fair.

[01:05:06] [SPEAKER_03]: That is fair. I can totally appreciate that.

[01:05:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. Glenn in a dumpster.

[01:05:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Glenn in a dumpster.

[01:05:12] [SPEAKER_03]: And we're learning about the cheesemaker phenomenal episode.

[01:05:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Fabulous episode.

[01:05:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Not where I want it in my season.

[01:05:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Not even a little bit.

[01:05:20] [SPEAKER_00]: I got you. Yeah, but you you you lead that into.

[01:05:25] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what?

[01:05:26] [SPEAKER_01]: No, you we need to let Alex have a minute for a second.

[01:05:29] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry.

[01:05:31] [SPEAKER_00]: I worked up there for a second.

[01:05:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I know.

[01:05:36] [SPEAKER_00]: I know.

[01:05:36] [SPEAKER_00]: I was just I mean, I I appreciate what you're saying.

[01:05:41] [SPEAKER_00]: And I can completely understand what you're talking about.

[01:05:44] [SPEAKER_00]: I think for me, because I loved Carol the Bells so much,

[01:05:51] [SPEAKER_00]: it it softened some of that for me.

[01:05:55] [SPEAKER_00]: But leading into like that segueing into like you talk about

[01:05:59] [SPEAKER_00]: favorite episodes, Sunflowers is phenomenal,

[01:06:02] [SPEAKER_00]: but Rainbow will forever be my favorite.

[01:06:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Much like Kristen, it is the greatest episode of Ted Lassow

[01:06:11] [SPEAKER_03]: history because of its true just the love letter it is to romcoms.

[01:06:15] [SPEAKER_03]: It is 100 percent my favorite episode of the entire it.

[01:06:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Introduce it reintroduced me to the song Rainbow,

[01:06:22] [SPEAKER_03]: and it has been on repeat on my playlist.

[01:06:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Kristen, I know you're dying to jump in here

[01:06:26] [SPEAKER_03]: because you love romcoms so much.

[01:06:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Please tell us.

[01:06:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Tell us what you what you feel about rainbows.

[01:06:31] [SPEAKER_00]: But I'll let Christian steam for a little bit.

[01:06:36] [SPEAKER_00]: The reason that I want it's not even that I am a romcom fan.

[01:06:43] [SPEAKER_00]: It is all of the references and all of the I mean,

[01:06:50] [SPEAKER_01]: like turning some of those and of romcoms,

[01:06:54] [SPEAKER_00]: so turning some of the tropes upside up on their head,

[01:06:57] [SPEAKER_00]: like you make a non creepy Christmas.

[01:07:00] [SPEAKER_00]: You you or like I said, was that was Carol Bell.

[01:07:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Sorry. But the I'm just I'm just a coach standing in front of a man.

[01:07:09] [SPEAKER_00]: I bet that made me laugh so fucking hard because Notting Hill

[01:07:14] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean is one of my favorite romcoms.

[01:07:17] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not I'm not going to say I don't like them, but like you've got mail.

[01:07:21] [SPEAKER_00]: I've never fucking seen sleep in Seattle.

[01:07:23] [SPEAKER_00]: I've never seen you've got mail and they don't interest me.

[01:07:26] [SPEAKER_00]: But fucking Notting Hill was fucking hysterical,

[01:07:30] [SPEAKER_00]: in part because of Reece Ivins.

[01:07:31] [SPEAKER_03]: But anyway, yeah, I know there's no there is for him.

[01:07:37] [SPEAKER_00]: There were there are so many great references

[01:07:41] [SPEAKER_00]: and brought in and made great by characters.

[01:07:46] [SPEAKER_00]: We have come or I had come to love that.

[01:07:50] [SPEAKER_00]: They were all applicable to the story again, in my biased opinion.

[01:07:58] [SPEAKER_04]: And if for no other reason, it is the very first episode

[01:08:01] [SPEAKER_04]: where we are finally we are introduced to Coach Kent.

[01:08:05] [SPEAKER_04]: And boy, does he do a good job

[01:08:08] [SPEAKER_04]: because that is I mean, if nothing else, by the end of that episode,

[01:08:12] [SPEAKER_04]: that is Roy rejoining the team.

[01:08:14] [SPEAKER_04]: You had which is a pivotal moment in this series.

[01:08:17] [SPEAKER_01]: That's an amazing moment of the show.

[01:08:19] [SPEAKER_01]: When he walks on to that pitch,

[01:08:22] [SPEAKER_04]: it may be better when he fixes his knee right before.

[01:08:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. And what I love is how well they edited it.

[01:08:29] [SPEAKER_03]: So the musical cue for the song as he goes past Nate

[01:08:32] [SPEAKER_03]: starts to go into that distorted chord and you can really feel the tension

[01:08:36] [SPEAKER_03]: as it's like hammering in on Nate's face to end the episode.

[01:08:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. Yeah.

[01:08:41] [SPEAKER_04]: We talked about this when we covered that episode.

[01:08:43] [SPEAKER_04]: It's one of my favorite moments.

[01:08:44] [SPEAKER_04]: It's one of my favorite Roy Kent moments is.

[01:08:47] [SPEAKER_04]: And we jokingly say when he fixed his knee,

[01:08:49] [SPEAKER_04]: but it's that moment where he bends over, he fixes his knee

[01:08:52] [SPEAKER_04]: and then the camera cuts to behind him.

[01:08:55] [SPEAKER_04]: And you just get that whoosh of him standing up like with confidence

[01:08:59] [SPEAKER_04]: and walking out on that field and you can't help but be like, fuck, yes,

[01:09:04] [SPEAKER_04]: boy, he's back. Oh, yeah.

[01:09:06] [SPEAKER_01]: He's there. He's every fucking way.

[01:09:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Roy Kent, Roy Kent.

[01:09:12] [SPEAKER_00]: That's my favorite new Venn diagram is I saw that Venn diagram.

[01:09:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Here they are and then Roy in the middle.

[01:09:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was like, you're there everywhere.

[01:09:22] [SPEAKER_00]: And then Roy Kent.

[01:09:23] [SPEAKER_00]: And Roy Kent right in the middle.

[01:09:25] [SPEAKER_04]: So what are what are some other episodes and moments that kind of stick out?

[01:09:32] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's very relevant.

[01:09:35] [SPEAKER_04]: It's very.

[01:09:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Uncle's Day.

[01:09:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Wow. That's a fantastic one.

[01:09:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Uncle's Day.

[01:09:43] [SPEAKER_04]: That's a good one, too. Yeah.

[01:09:45] [SPEAKER_01]: And the fact that Jamie brought the most thoughtful gift.

[01:09:49] [SPEAKER_03]: It's really good gift.

[01:09:51] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, especially like we know how important like

[01:09:57] [SPEAKER_01]: a football player's kit is, but to Jamie, it's sacred.

[01:10:02] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you could tell that and they drop that in,

[01:10:04] [SPEAKER_01]: especially when he puts the black tape over

[01:10:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Dubai, Dubai, Dubai, Dubai.

[01:10:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah. I got it wrong. Right.

[01:10:13] [SPEAKER_01]: And he put it on and he's like, what are you doing?

[01:10:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, we have to have the same kit.

[01:10:17] [SPEAKER_01]: We're a part of the same team. Right.

[01:10:19] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, and when you go to the international break,

[01:10:22] [SPEAKER_01]: you know, you have him wearing Sam's number.

[01:10:25] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this guy knows what it is to wear the uniform.

[01:10:30] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's just so special that he got Roy his his kit.

[01:10:36] [SPEAKER_01]: I just there was just something really wonderful about that.

[01:10:39] [SPEAKER_01]: And didn't they both cry

[01:10:41] [SPEAKER_03]: in their own little ways, I'm sure.

[01:10:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. Did Roy did Roy have a moment like I can't remember?

[01:10:49] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't remember. Yeah, I don't remember.

[01:10:51] [SPEAKER_00]: His response was not even I fucking love it.

[01:10:55] [SPEAKER_00]: I love it.

[01:10:56] [SPEAKER_00]: He didn't even curse.

[01:10:58] [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, that's how you knew it was for real.

[01:11:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:11:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, it was also the added bonus that he changed the E to a U.

[01:11:06] [SPEAKER_03]: That was a fantastic one.

[01:11:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Just that's heartfelt.

[01:11:09] [SPEAKER_03]: That is knowing your audience.

[01:11:12] [SPEAKER_04]: And what I love about it, too, is upon first viewing of that one,

[01:11:15] [SPEAKER_04]: we are all Phoebe in that moment.

[01:11:18] [SPEAKER_04]: We're processing.

[01:11:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Wait, oh, and that's exactly what Phoebe does.

[01:11:24] [SPEAKER_01]: And I love it that Jamie goes is worth it.

[01:11:28] [SPEAKER_00]: And speaking of people, we dirt or they did dirty fucking Nora.

[01:11:33] [SPEAKER_00]: We did more Nora.

[01:11:35] [SPEAKER_00]: And where'd she go?

[01:11:36] [SPEAKER_00]: It was sad that we didn't get more of her.

[01:11:38] [SPEAKER_00]: I'll cut it at that.

[01:11:40] [SPEAKER_03]: She's barely a plot device.

[01:11:42] I know.

[01:11:43] [SPEAKER_03]: So, OK, I have a really good episode that for me, that's when I knew I was

[01:11:48] [SPEAKER_03]: locked in, I was hooked in, I was never turning back.

[01:11:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Season one, episode four for the children.

[01:11:55] [SPEAKER_03]: The charity benefit.

[01:11:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.

[01:11:57] [SPEAKER_03]: That whole episode from top to bottom,

[01:11:59] [SPEAKER_03]: from the busker opening it to the busker closing it, every single beat is

[01:12:04] [SPEAKER_03]: spot on. That's where Nate got the Ted suit.

[01:12:06] [SPEAKER_03]: That's where Roy and Jamie finally had that moment of like, yeah, man,

[01:12:10] [SPEAKER_03]: I understand you're just as annoying as I was.

[01:12:12] [SPEAKER_03]: But it's going to take me a little bit of time to get there.

[01:12:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Like so many good things happened in that episode.

[01:12:18] [SPEAKER_03]: And it's so freaking good.

[01:12:20] [SPEAKER_00]: It's also kind of the planner.

[01:12:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[01:12:24] [SPEAKER_04]: It's also kind of the tease of what's the come of Roy and Keely.

[01:12:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Yep. That's true.

[01:12:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Because there's some real nuggets in that episode as well.

[01:12:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:12:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:12:34] [SPEAKER_00]: And Rebecca and Keely and like that scene started.

[01:12:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:12:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Like that scene in the bathroom was so powerful.

[01:12:43] [SPEAKER_03]: The introduction of Bex was in that episode.

[01:12:46] [SPEAKER_03]: That's who Jamie's other plus one.

[01:12:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the one bidding on.

[01:12:50] [SPEAKER_00]: That's right.

[01:12:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[01:12:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Whoa.

[01:12:53] [SPEAKER_04]: And I think I mentioned this at the time that the actress that played Bex

[01:12:58] [SPEAKER_04]: was Sudeikis' girlfriend at the time.

[01:13:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[01:13:02] [SPEAKER_04]: So I don't think they are still together now.

[01:13:05] [SPEAKER_04]: But I know at the time that was his then girlfriend.

[01:13:10] [SPEAKER_01]: His rebound.

[01:13:11] [SPEAKER_00]: His rebound from Olivia Wilde.

[01:13:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Steve, how about you?

[01:13:16] [SPEAKER_01]: You've been quiet.

[01:13:18] [SPEAKER_05]: It's hard for me to pinpoint specific episodes, but I know there's moments.

[01:13:23] [SPEAKER_05]: I remember the moment.

[01:13:24] [SPEAKER_05]: I remember what episode it was in because I'm horrible about remembering

[01:13:26] [SPEAKER_05]: episodes and names, but the moment when Nate does make the dinner

[01:13:31] [SPEAKER_05]: reservation and he tells Jade, he says, we're going to take that table.

[01:13:35] [SPEAKER_05]: We're going to have an appetizer.

[01:13:36] [SPEAKER_05]: We're going to have a we're going to have this.

[01:13:37] [SPEAKER_05]: We have probably two bottles of wine this day.

[01:13:39] [SPEAKER_05]: And then we're going to eat and we're going to be done.

[01:13:41] [SPEAKER_05]: And then we're going to leave.

[01:13:41] [SPEAKER_05]: We're going to do it at that table.

[01:13:43] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, and he's that's the first time we see Nate.

[01:13:45] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's the first time he does the spit thing, which is just you.

[01:13:48] [SPEAKER_05]: But we see him kind of stand up for himself and do something that moment.

[01:13:53] [SPEAKER_05]: The darts moment for the the Rick Roll moment in the church.

[01:13:58] [SPEAKER_05]: That's that's those it's it's moments like that that stand out to me.

[01:14:04] [SPEAKER_05]: But it's hard for me to remember.

[01:14:06] [SPEAKER_05]: You guys are great at remembering episode titles and numbers and where they

[01:14:11] [SPEAKER_05]: thought I'm not as good at that, so it's harder for me to do when I was

[01:14:15] [SPEAKER_05]: going, I was scrolling through them today trying to find the one

[01:14:19] [SPEAKER_05]: the one quote that stood out to me that I can't remember again.

[01:14:22] [SPEAKER_05]: I can't remember what it was was when Roy says he's going to H.R.

[01:14:26] [SPEAKER_05]: And

[01:14:28] [SPEAKER_05]: last Ted says, say hi to Mr.

[01:14:30] [SPEAKER_05]: Puffin Stuff for me.

[01:14:32] [SPEAKER_05]: That's a joke where you were born in the early the mid 70s.

[01:14:34] [SPEAKER_05]: And I'm like, that's me.

[01:14:35] [SPEAKER_05]: So I remember H.R.

[01:14:37] [SPEAKER_05]: Puffin Stuff. You know, I know I know that that that cartoon and that show.

[01:14:42] [SPEAKER_05]: So it's it's moments like that

[01:14:44] [SPEAKER_05]: that stood out for me, you know, the moment when Rebecca comes clean

[01:14:48] [SPEAKER_05]: to Ted about wanting to tear down the team, but then changing her mind on

[01:14:53] [SPEAKER_05]: that, that again, like I said at the beginning, the flipping of tropes

[01:14:57] [SPEAKER_05]: that this show did, that's what drew me in was the change up of we're doing it.

[01:15:03] [SPEAKER_05]: We're doing something different than what everybody else does.

[01:15:06] [SPEAKER_01]: That's so that's awesome.

[01:15:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Do you believe I'm cheating?

[01:15:11] [SPEAKER_03]: I have IMDb up.

[01:15:13] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm cheating, so I'm not this good.

[01:15:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I forgot my phone, so I've been trying to play it off the cuff.

[01:15:19] [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm very lost as well.

[01:15:22] [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm with you, Steve.

[01:15:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Windmill windmills, finding windmills.

[01:15:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Wonderful moment.

[01:15:31] [SPEAKER_04]: It's a season three episode.

[01:15:35] [SPEAKER_04]: I think it's.

[01:15:37] [SPEAKER_04]: I think it's signs is the episode and it's it's really, you know,

[01:15:43] [SPEAKER_04]: when we talk about moments of this series and powerful quotes that we talked

[01:15:47] [SPEAKER_04]: about, you know, be curious, not judgmental, be a goldfish.

[01:15:51] [SPEAKER_04]: There's that whole monologue that Ted gives to the team

[01:15:55] [SPEAKER_04]: when he talks about, like, not wanting to deal with things.

[01:15:59] [SPEAKER_04]: And I actually I have it pulled up here.

[01:16:01] [SPEAKER_04]: It's, you know,

[01:16:03] [SPEAKER_04]: belief doesn't just happen because you hang something on a wall.

[01:16:06] [SPEAKER_04]: It comes from in here, up here.

[01:16:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Any points of his brain down here in the gut.

[01:16:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Only problem is we have so much junk floating around through us.

[01:16:14] [SPEAKER_04]: A lot of the time we end up getting in our own way,

[01:16:16] [SPEAKER_04]: you know, crap like envy, fear, shame.

[01:16:19] [SPEAKER_04]: And I don't want to mess with that shit anymore.

[01:16:22] [SPEAKER_04]: That, to me, is still one of the most incredibly powerful.

[01:16:25] [SPEAKER_04]: That, I think more than any other line in this series hit me the hardest.

[01:16:30] [SPEAKER_04]: That was the one that I think like he's talking to me in this moment.

[01:16:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Any lines like that that kind of stick out to you guys that kind of you took

[01:16:41] [SPEAKER_00]: personally for me, it was

[01:16:46] [SPEAKER_00]: the one that sticks out to me.

[01:16:49] [SPEAKER_00]: And it's not necessarily a line, but it's the whole cut.

[01:16:53] [SPEAKER_00]: And I went on a not a diatribe, but like a narration of it on one of my

[01:16:58] [SPEAKER_00]: voicemails, but when Rebecca is giving the speech at the dinner

[01:17:04] [SPEAKER_00]: where prior to the food fight and it's cutting from one from Nate and Jamie

[01:17:10] [SPEAKER_00]: and and talking about making heroes of men and boys and turning them from boys

[01:17:16] [SPEAKER_00]: into men and like that, that gives me the goosebumps kind of

[01:17:21] [SPEAKER_00]: the same way that you're talking about now.

[01:17:23] [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't take that necessarily personally, but it gave me a a full

[01:17:30] [SPEAKER_00]: scope of not just what like what football is or what sports are,

[01:17:37] [SPEAKER_00]: but of what this whole show did.

[01:17:39] [SPEAKER_00]: You took a clown, even if he was a semi-successful clown in America and

[01:17:46] [SPEAKER_00]: you applied his his mantra of acceptance and be curious, not judgmental to a team.

[01:17:55] [SPEAKER_00]: And you you just do phenomenal things to it.

[01:18:02] [SPEAKER_03]: I think for me, one of the moments that will

[01:18:06] [SPEAKER_03]: it's going to trigger me every single time.

[01:18:08] [SPEAKER_03]: I will cry buckets.

[01:18:09] [SPEAKER_03]: There is no way outside of it more than any other moment in this entire show.

[01:18:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Man City, Roy hugs Jamie.

[01:18:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that I will never not blubber the moment like just even just thinking

[01:18:22] [SPEAKER_03]: about it right now from the moment Jamie smacks his dad to the end

[01:18:27] [SPEAKER_03]: of the episode when Ted calls Dr.

[01:18:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Sharon and tells her what happened like that whole sequence is just.

[01:18:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Ah, put it in the Louvre, man, it's perfect.

[01:18:39] [SPEAKER_04]: And I think, you know, Alex, you talked a little bit about like

[01:18:42] [SPEAKER_04]: the issue that you had with Carol, the bells being kind of fit in to,

[01:18:47] [SPEAKER_04]: you know, where where it was in the story and how it kind of felt off

[01:18:51] [SPEAKER_04]: off kilter for you, I think with that one, I think the difference

[01:18:55] [SPEAKER_04]: with that is putting beard after hours after that episode,

[01:18:59] [SPEAKER_04]: I think was actually kind of needed because it was such an emotional part

[01:19:05] [SPEAKER_04]: and an emotional beat with both Jamie and Jamie and his father, Roy and Jamie.

[01:19:10] [SPEAKER_04]: And then Ted talking about Sharon and the big reveal about

[01:19:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Ted's father committing suicide.

[01:19:16] [SPEAKER_04]: I feel like having beard after hours kind of fit in after that,

[01:19:21] [SPEAKER_04]: I think fit more appropriately because we needed that break.

[01:19:25] [SPEAKER_04]: We just took on a lot of emotion.

[01:19:29] [SPEAKER_04]: We we needed something to kind of cut that.

[01:19:32] [SPEAKER_03]: I agree. And I remember when it was when it was airing live,

[01:19:35] [SPEAKER_03]: we knew for weeks ahead of time that the episode after Man City was going

[01:19:39] [SPEAKER_03]: to be an episode that they added after the fact.

[01:19:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, see, I didn't. Oh, see.

[01:19:43] [SPEAKER_03]: And I knew that.

[01:19:44] [SPEAKER_03]: So like even going into I was like, OK, there's going to be a breather

[01:19:47] [SPEAKER_03]: episode and then we got one of the funniest, wackiest little zaniest

[01:19:52] [SPEAKER_03]: episodes of all like crazy television of the last three years.

[01:19:56] [SPEAKER_03]: It was just delightful.

[01:19:57] [SPEAKER_03]: And you're right.

[01:19:59] [SPEAKER_03]: That levity was perfect for the moment.

[01:20:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I like it.

[01:20:02] [SPEAKER_01]: The beard ended up getting married in those pants as he

[01:20:06] [SPEAKER_03]: with them in his present.

[01:20:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. Yes.

[01:20:10] [SPEAKER_01]: And their baby and their baby.

[01:20:12] [SPEAKER_04]: It's so funny.

[01:20:13] [SPEAKER_04]: I actually I was and I was intending on actually doing

[01:20:18] [SPEAKER_04]: beard after hours beard for Halloween this year.

[01:20:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Do it. I can't find the pants anywhere.

[01:20:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Find the fabric and find someone that can make you a pair of pants.

[01:20:29] [SPEAKER_00]: I'll tell you what, man, if you find this glittery pants, they'll do.

[01:20:33] [SPEAKER_04]: That's true.

[01:20:34] [SPEAKER_04]: They have to be pinstriped glittery pants.

[01:20:37] [SPEAKER_04]: You can make that.

[01:20:38] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean,

[01:20:39] [SPEAKER_01]: is it?

[01:20:41] [SPEAKER_01]: No, no.

[01:20:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Has sheen or Tmoo has it guaranteed.

[01:20:45] [SPEAKER_04]: I've checked Etsy and like the people who made them on Etsy don't make

[01:20:48] [SPEAKER_03]: them anymore. Bedbugs 30 percent off.

[01:20:53] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just saying I'm I made my own

[01:20:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Okan costume for Halloween.

[01:21:01] [SPEAKER_04]: You can make your fucking you made an Okan costume for Halloween.

[01:21:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Do you not see that from the from the mass meetup?

[01:21:11] [SPEAKER_00]: No.

[01:21:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I'm going to have to look for that now.

[01:21:14] [SPEAKER_00]: It's we are talking about Dr.

[01:21:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Okan, right? No, I'm talking about from Frozen.

[01:21:18] [SPEAKER_04]: OK, cool.

[01:21:19] [SPEAKER_04]: That's where.

[01:21:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, see my mind when Dr.

[01:21:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Okan Brett Spiner's character from Independence Day.

[01:21:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

[01:21:25] [SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no.

[01:21:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Also in the video.

[01:21:27] [SPEAKER_01]: I love it that the two girl dads were like, I got it.

[01:21:33] [SPEAKER_04]: I knew what he said because I was there.

[01:21:35] [SPEAKER_04]: That's the only reason why I knew is talking about is Okan Frozen 2.

[01:21:40] [SPEAKER_03]: No, he's the guy in the cat like when

[01:21:43] [SPEAKER_03]: when Anna is first going on the track and she runs into Kristoff.

[01:21:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, big, big bro out.

[01:21:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Okan.

[01:21:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I have no clue about that.

[01:21:53] [SPEAKER_05]: What you guys are all talking about.

[01:21:54] [SPEAKER_05]: Gotcha.

[01:21:55] [SPEAKER_03]: You are missing out.

[01:21:56] [SPEAKER_03]: OK, I know it's a kids movie, but, bro, the whole Pixar Disney.

[01:22:00] [SPEAKER_03]: It's fantastic inside.

[01:22:01] [SPEAKER_03]: It's all delightful.

[01:22:03] [SPEAKER_01]: We were team tangled over Team Frozen.

[01:22:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I am too.

[01:22:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that is a Star Trek Star Wars level.

[01:22:11] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm telling you, I mean, I'm telling you like, well,

[01:22:15] [SPEAKER_00]: so because we were we were a tangled family until

[01:22:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Kate wouldn't stop fucking watching Frozen or Frozen 2.

[01:22:25] [SPEAKER_00]: And I just let this shit go.

[01:22:27] [SPEAKER_00]: This is so hard to channel.

[01:22:29] [SPEAKER_01]: And also let it go.

[01:22:31] [SPEAKER_01]: But I had a dream.

[01:22:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Listen, I would thank you, Steve.

[01:22:34] [SPEAKER_04]: I was just going to say I've got a dream is so much more fun than let it go.

[01:22:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I have a dream.

[01:22:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I just want to hear the floating lanterns.

[01:22:43] [SPEAKER_00]: So let me let me segue this hour.

[01:22:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm so glad I got my power.

[01:22:52] [SPEAKER_00]: So so the comparisons of Elsa to Rebecca throughout this whole show were such a

[01:22:59] [SPEAKER_00]: huge, like just an amazing comparison.

[01:23:04] [SPEAKER_00]: And and I want to I want to give explanation to my my feedback where I

[01:23:11] [SPEAKER_00]: I basically read the entire fucking song of the so this song, right?

[01:23:15] [SPEAKER_00]: The next best or the next right thing.

[01:23:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Kate listens to this.

[01:23:21] [SPEAKER_00]: I would say I've probably heard it

[01:23:25] [SPEAKER_00]: two thousand times and we will listen to it on repeat in the car so that she

[01:23:31] [SPEAKER_00]: will nap so I know all of the words and the reason that I read it and I

[01:23:38] [SPEAKER_00]: couldn't the guy was just too much.

[01:23:39] [SPEAKER_00]: It was just too much. Right.

[01:23:40] [SPEAKER_00]: And so I just want to explain, right?

[01:23:43] [SPEAKER_00]: When this show ended.

[01:23:46] [SPEAKER_00]: That is how I felt.

[01:23:49] [SPEAKER_00]: I felt like it was dark.

[01:23:51] [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't have this to look forward to anymore.

[01:23:54] [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't have the light of Ted Lasso every day.

[01:23:58] [SPEAKER_00]: I watched the fucking five or eight

[01:24:01] [SPEAKER_00]: minute or whatever fucking after party special and fucking tears

[01:24:07] [SPEAKER_00]: streaming out of my fucking face in joy and but also knowing that it was all done.

[01:24:13] [SPEAKER_00]: But what this showed not taught me to do, but what the message was is it doesn't

[01:24:19] [SPEAKER_00]: matter what it what you what you're going through, how dark it is.

[01:24:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Just try to take your next breath,

[01:24:26] [SPEAKER_00]: your next step, your next choice and do the next right thing.

[01:24:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Whatever it is you can do to help somebody else.

[01:24:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Whatever it is you can do to be with your kids, to to try to do the next right thing.

[01:24:40] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like that's the whole message of the show.

[01:24:42] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's why I wasted all that fucking time, an extra minute and a half

[01:24:46] [SPEAKER_00]: on top of the fucking three and a half minute limit

[01:24:50] [SPEAKER_00]: to to to quote that.

[01:24:52] [SPEAKER_00]: And I didn't explain any of that because I was already fucking over on time anyway.

[01:24:57] [SPEAKER_00]: And what I wanted to explain now,

[01:25:00] [SPEAKER_04]: is you mentioned that

[01:25:04] [SPEAKER_04]: that video to and I forget what it's called.

[01:25:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, Richmond till we die.

[01:25:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

[01:25:15] [SPEAKER_04]: I if anybody hasn't seen that yet, any listeners out there who haven't seen

[01:25:20] [SPEAKER_04]: that yet go on YouTube and look up Richmond till we die.

[01:25:23] [SPEAKER_04]: It is like you said, it's like I think six to eight minutes long.

[01:25:27] [SPEAKER_04]: And it's like just behind the scenes, a little wrap up of everything.

[01:25:31] [SPEAKER_00]: And it's a love letter to the show and all the fans and the the letter that

[01:25:37] [SPEAKER_00]: the feeling of community within the cast, it's so fucking music.

[01:25:41] [SPEAKER_04]: And I'll also tell you, if you want to do a little bit of a deep dive to watch

[01:25:46] [SPEAKER_04]: a a conversation with Brett Goldstein and Phil Dunster,

[01:25:50] [SPEAKER_04]: where they talk where Phil Dunster just talks about how he would

[01:25:53] [SPEAKER_04]: potentially try and make Brett Goldstein laugh on set.

[01:25:57] [SPEAKER_01]: I could think about when their final

[01:26:00] [SPEAKER_01]: boot room conversation where Jamie's just like,

[01:26:05] [SPEAKER_04]: it's just like touching where the wings are.

[01:26:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Where are the wings?

[01:26:11] [SPEAKER_00]: could one will be it will be a good one.

[01:26:16] [SPEAKER_00]: He's so frustrated.

[01:26:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh,

[01:26:21] [SPEAKER_04]: all right. So I guess that just kind of leads us into one more thing.

[01:26:26] [SPEAKER_04]: And that is there has been recent news.

[01:26:29] [SPEAKER_04]: And I think it's all because of our podcast.

[01:26:31] [SPEAKER_04]: They just wanted to make sure.

[01:26:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, we sure did.

[01:26:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Obviously, because of revisited.

[01:26:35] [SPEAKER_04]: No, there has been some recent news that we vetted and is is real

[01:26:41] [SPEAKER_04]: that apparently Hannah Waddingham, Brett Goldstein and

[01:26:47] [SPEAKER_04]: all Leslie, I forget the actor's name.

[01:26:51] [SPEAKER_04]: You can do it.

[01:26:53] [SPEAKER_04]: It is. Oh, man.

[01:26:55] [SPEAKER_04]: It's just a lot of pressure.

[01:26:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Ricardo Shilly Shelley.

[01:26:59] [SPEAKER_04]: No.

[01:27:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Are you sure? It sounds right.

[01:27:03] [SPEAKER_04]: You're thinking Montalban Ricardo's Jeremy Swift.

[01:27:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you.

[01:27:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Jeremy, I was so I told you, I have my

[01:27:13] [SPEAKER_04]: but no, apparently they have been contracted to come back for a potential

[01:27:20] [SPEAKER_04]: fourth season of the series.

[01:27:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Bring it.

[01:27:23] [SPEAKER_04]: OK, so that was going to be my final

[01:27:25] [SPEAKER_04]: question before we get ready to kind of move on from this and wrap up.

[01:27:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Everything is what are everybody's feelings about this?

[01:27:35] [SPEAKER_05]: I'd be excited to see it.

[01:27:36] [SPEAKER_05]: I'd like to see what this ensemble will do without Sudeikis.

[01:27:42] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, what stories are they going to continue?

[01:27:44] [SPEAKER_05]: What stories are they going to drop?

[01:27:46] [SPEAKER_05]: Are they going to give us Keely's next adventure?

[01:27:50] [SPEAKER_05]: Are they going to show us Roy as head coach?

[01:27:54] [SPEAKER_05]: What's you know, I'd be for it.

[01:27:56] [SPEAKER_05]: I think I think this group can do it.

[01:27:58] [SPEAKER_05]: And I'm with Alex.

[01:27:59] [SPEAKER_05]: I didn't say this at the beginning, but I have a big Bill Lawrence fan as

[01:28:03] [SPEAKER_05]: well as I was a huge Scrubs fan when it was on.

[01:28:05] [SPEAKER_05]: I didn't watch Spin City, but Scrubs for sure.

[01:28:08] [SPEAKER_05]: And the other shows that he's been involved with, I've tried to dabble in.

[01:28:13] [SPEAKER_05]: So

[01:28:14] [SPEAKER_05]: I'd be excited to see what what they're going to do with it.

[01:28:20] [SPEAKER_04]: I here's my take on this and I'll turn it over to everybody else because I

[01:28:24] [SPEAKER_04]: talked a little bit about this last episode when we talked about the finale.

[01:28:29] [SPEAKER_04]: What's having me worried about this is

[01:28:31] [SPEAKER_04]: the fact that they are calling this a fourth season.

[01:28:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Fourth season to me means they're going

[01:28:38] [SPEAKER_04]: to try and bring Ted back because that's going to be called Ted Lasso season four.

[01:28:43] [SPEAKER_04]: If this is if that's the way they're going with this, I don't want it.

[01:28:47] [SPEAKER_04]: I feel Ted story has been wrapped up beautifully and we don't as much as I

[01:28:52] [SPEAKER_04]: love Ted, we don't need to see him again.

[01:28:54] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think it'll be called that if it's a spin off of Ted Lasso

[01:29:01] [SPEAKER_04]: and not a fourth season, then I am 100 percent for it.

[01:29:06] [SPEAKER_04]: What if they did?

[01:29:07] [SPEAKER_04]: What if they call it?

[01:29:09] [SPEAKER_05]: What if they call it Ted Lasso, the book of the Richmond way

[01:29:13] [SPEAKER_05]: or Ted Lasso, the Richmond way?

[01:29:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think if that's the case, then just call it the Richmond way.

[01:29:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Just call it Richmond till we die.

[01:29:22] [SPEAKER_00]: And then it's everybody around Richmond and fucking that would be so cool.

[01:29:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Ted Lasso, the book of Carol.

[01:29:29] [SPEAKER_03]: No, wait.

[01:29:32] [SPEAKER_05]: I was getting around.

[01:29:34] [SPEAKER_05]: I was getting around that.

[01:29:34] [SPEAKER_03]: I liked it.

[01:29:36] [SPEAKER_03]: So I said this.

[01:29:39] [SPEAKER_03]: I did.

[01:29:42] [SPEAKER_03]: All right.

[01:29:43] [SPEAKER_03]: So when I left my feedback, I kind of alluded to this.

[01:29:46] [SPEAKER_03]: But Bill Lawrence really screwed up

[01:29:48] [SPEAKER_03]: with Scrubs in that season nine was season nine instead of season one

[01:29:52] [SPEAKER_03]: of a thing I like to call Scrubs Med School.

[01:29:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Like that should have been a spin off.

[01:29:57] [SPEAKER_03]: And then it can live and die on its own.

[01:29:59] [SPEAKER_03]: This should be called the Richmond way.

[01:30:01] [SPEAKER_03]: They already gave us the title in the finale of the last episode.

[01:30:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Just call it the damn Richmond way.

[01:30:06] [SPEAKER_03]: We get carte blanche to deal with any characters and any side stories.

[01:30:10] [SPEAKER_03]: This is a solid universe.

[01:30:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Like with with me, give me a May episode.

[01:30:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Dude, like how much fun would those board meetings be?

[01:30:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Come on. Yes.

[01:30:20] [SPEAKER_03]: How great would those board meetings be?

[01:30:22] [SPEAKER_01]: At the bar. You know that.

[01:30:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[01:30:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Furthermore,

[01:30:26] [SPEAKER_03]: furthermore, the opportunity to expand the character base by adding AFC women's

[01:30:31] [SPEAKER_03]: team would be really, really fascinating and really, really funny.

[01:30:35] [SPEAKER_03]: There are a lot of really funny British,

[01:30:37] [SPEAKER_03]: like athletic comedians that I think would be dynamite to slot into this.

[01:30:41] [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm saying there's so many legs there.

[01:30:43] [SPEAKER_03]: So why not just don't let it be Ted Lasso?

[01:30:46] [SPEAKER_04]: And that's and that's kind of my point of view as well.

[01:30:48] [SPEAKER_04]: And I think your Scrubs analogy pretty much nailed it.

[01:30:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Like they gave Dorian such a beautiful ending in Scrubs season eight.

[01:30:57] [SPEAKER_04]: And then you you took it back and you brought him.

[01:31:00] [SPEAKER_04]: You did when they said season eight was going to be it.

[01:31:03] [SPEAKER_04]: And then Bill Lawrence brought back season nine.

[01:31:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Zacharra's character, Zacharra's character.

[01:31:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes. Sorry.

[01:31:10] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, and yeah, John Dorian.

[01:31:13] [SPEAKER_04]: And, you know, he said season eight was going to be it.

[01:31:16] [SPEAKER_04]: You gave JD a beautiful wrap up of a character, a beautiful send off of his

[01:31:20] [SPEAKER_04]: character, and then you took it back.

[01:31:22] [SPEAKER_04]: You made a season nine.

[01:31:23] [SPEAKER_04]: You brought JD back and really ruined

[01:31:26] [SPEAKER_04]: that series because it wasn't that good at all.

[01:31:31] [SPEAKER_04]: So like that's my fear with Ted Lasso is we don't need to bring Ted back.

[01:31:35] [SPEAKER_04]: If we're going to continue on with these characters, it's not season four.

[01:31:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Doesn't need to be season four.

[01:31:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Can Beard come back?

[01:31:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he's there.

[01:31:43] [SPEAKER_01]: He's there.

[01:31:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Like it can be everybody.

[01:31:47] [SPEAKER_04]: But that's what I mean.

[01:31:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Like it what the only fear I have is that it's being called season four.

[01:31:52] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't it's not season four.

[01:31:54] [SPEAKER_01]: It would be so cool if they made it sort of like an anthology, you know?

[01:31:59] [SPEAKER_01]: And it was just we got like pockets of everything.

[01:32:02] [SPEAKER_01]: I would like I said earlier, like seeing an episode about just game day

[01:32:07] [SPEAKER_01]: for May from opening the bar to closing the bar.

[01:32:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Like what does that look like from May's perspective?

[01:32:13] [SPEAKER_01]: To me, that would be a really cool one off episode.

[01:32:16] [SPEAKER_01]: So like an anthology like that, because we love this world so much.

[01:32:20] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that would be a really cool idea.

[01:32:23] [SPEAKER_04]: I'll throw out another storyline.

[01:32:25] [SPEAKER_04]: I would want to see if they continue with this.

[01:32:27] [SPEAKER_04]: And it is called the Richmond way.

[01:32:28] [SPEAKER_04]: And they do throw in features of AFC Richmond's women's team.

[01:32:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Nora signs with the team.

[01:32:37] [SPEAKER_04]: There you go.

[01:32:38] [SPEAKER_01]: No, nor does it want to sign with unless it's in the admin office.

[01:32:42] [SPEAKER_01]: She wants to own the team.

[01:32:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Or she comes on as a protege.

[01:32:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that'd be pretty hot.

[01:32:50] [SPEAKER_04]: We'd get more Nora.

[01:32:52] [SPEAKER_00]: I do want to just I do what we we.

[01:32:55] [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't appreciate her more because I

[01:32:57] [SPEAKER_00]: appreciated her fucking phenomenally through the whole goddamn series.

[01:33:01] [SPEAKER_00]: But Annette Badland, who played May, was just welcome every fucking time I saw her.

[01:33:08] [SPEAKER_00]: I first met her in not met her, but like saw her in Doctor Who in like

[01:33:13] [SPEAKER_00]: 2007 is when I first watched it from the first of the new series.

[01:33:18] [SPEAKER_04]: She's an alien in Doctor Who, too.

[01:33:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. And she's like very heavy set.

[01:33:23] [SPEAKER_00]: And like it took me a few episodes

[01:33:25] [SPEAKER_00]: in watching this to recognize her, but just like, oh, fuck, she's fucking

[01:33:31] [SPEAKER_00]: phenomenal, like she is so amazing in the series.

[01:33:36] [SPEAKER_04]: She's a she's a gassy alien.

[01:33:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:33:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

[01:33:44] [SPEAKER_04]: All right.

[01:33:46] [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, I think you're right, Chris.

[01:33:47] [SPEAKER_04]: And I think to see I think that would

[01:33:48] [SPEAKER_04]: actually be a brilliant episode to see the bar open to close.

[01:33:52] [SPEAKER_04]: So we may open a bar seeing what Paul, Jeremy and Baz do with their now

[01:33:57] [SPEAKER_04]: ownership portion of the team, have them do a podcast and just kind of

[01:34:02] [SPEAKER_03]: follow like like like like workaholics, but the Ted Lasso version of workaholics.

[01:34:08] [SPEAKER_03]: And these guys have a podcast about Richmond and stuff.

[01:34:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, my gosh.

[01:34:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Call it. Oh, my God.

[01:34:12] [SPEAKER_03]: House of the Greyhounds.

[01:34:14] [SPEAKER_01]: I love it.

[01:34:15] [SPEAKER_01]: I love it.

[01:34:17] [SPEAKER_04]: I think I think because we know they exist in the same world,

[01:34:22] [SPEAKER_04]: I think we need to see a game.

[01:34:23] [SPEAKER_04]: I think we need to see an episode where AFC Richmond plays Rex and may have C.

[01:34:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely. Yes.

[01:34:29] [SPEAKER_04]: With cameos by Ryan Reynolds and Rob McClelland.

[01:34:32] [SPEAKER_04]: For sure. For sure.

[01:34:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Because we know they exist.

[01:34:35] [SPEAKER_04]: It's always a role.

[01:34:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Let's always have a corresponding.

[01:34:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Send this entire file to them.

[01:34:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, send it to Apple.

[01:34:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Have it all have.

[01:34:45] [SPEAKER_00]: I did want to ask, is Bill Lawrence staying on for the new season series?

[01:34:51] [SPEAKER_04]: I think Sadakis is returning as executive producer.

[01:34:54] [SPEAKER_04]: So I would assume Bill Lawrence and Brendan Hunt are probably both going to

[01:34:57] [SPEAKER_03]: come back. Yeah, I was wondering what wakes up and earns two million dollars

[01:35:01] [SPEAKER_03]: these days. Everything he touches turns to go bad monkey on Apple.

[01:35:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Plus, if you guys have a watch, I really want to.

[01:35:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it is so good.

[01:35:09] [SPEAKER_00]: It's only four episodes in.

[01:35:11] [SPEAKER_00]: So I downloaded the first episode and then I fell asleep on the plane.

[01:35:15] [SPEAKER_00]: So I didn't watch. So good.

[01:35:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Like imagine Vince Vaughn's dodgeball character.

[01:35:18] [SPEAKER_03]: But as a snarky detective, it's phenomenal.

[01:35:21] [SPEAKER_03]: It's so good.

[01:35:23] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, he's also the show runner on Shrinking, too, which is another

[01:35:28] [SPEAKER_04]: show, which is another Brett Goldstein series or coming in for season two.

[01:35:34] [SPEAKER_03]: He'll be acting on it, which I'm excited about.

[01:35:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:35:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, if you get a chance to go see

[01:35:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Regalstein, I'd second Ben's thing, I know Jill saw him a few nights ago

[01:35:44] [SPEAKER_00]: and I saw him a month ago, but he's so fucking good.

[01:35:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Did he did he tell the story about meeting Elmo?

[01:35:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

[01:35:54] [SPEAKER_04]: And how he told his kids like if his kids ever ask him, like

[01:35:58] [SPEAKER_04]: it was the day I was born, the greatest at the greatest day of your

[01:36:01] [SPEAKER_04]: life, he's like, I have to tell them, no.

[01:36:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Have you met all that?

[01:36:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Have you met Elmo?

[01:36:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think that's why it was I think

[01:36:10] [SPEAKER_00]: that's why the tour is named the second best night of your life.

[01:36:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Probably. Yeah.

[01:36:15] [SPEAKER_00]: And so I have a hat now that says

[01:36:17] [SPEAKER_00]: the second best night of your life and people have no idea what I'm talking

[01:36:20] [SPEAKER_00]: about. They're just like, what the fuck is that?

[01:36:22] [SPEAKER_04]: He says in his act he can never

[01:36:24] [SPEAKER_04]: have kids because he can never tell them that the day they were born was

[01:36:27] [SPEAKER_04]: not the greatest day of his life.

[01:36:29] [SPEAKER_04]: It was meeting Elmo.

[01:36:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[01:36:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Um, any we're going to throw out some recommendations.

[01:36:37] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to let you guys throw out some recommendations if you have them.

[01:36:39] [SPEAKER_04]: We've thrown a couple out already.

[01:36:40] [SPEAKER_04]: And then if you guys have anything

[01:36:41] [SPEAKER_04]: to plug or you want people to check out, we'll do that too.

[01:36:44] [SPEAKER_04]: But before we do that, any kind of final notes on

[01:36:50] [SPEAKER_04]: our coverage of Ted Lasso or your thoughts on Ted Lasso before we get

[01:36:55] [SPEAKER_04]: ready to wrap this up?

[01:36:57] [SPEAKER_03]: I have a potentially controversial opinion, which is, oh, no.

[01:37:02] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think Ted Lasso is going to go into my top five rewatchable shows.

[01:37:08] [SPEAKER_03]: I think season one will.

[01:37:10] [SPEAKER_03]: I think season one will.

[01:37:12] [SPEAKER_03]: But the longer the episodes get, the heavier the episodes get.

[01:37:16] [SPEAKER_03]: I kind of signed up for Ted Lasso

[01:37:17] [SPEAKER_03]: to get a nice lighthearted jaunt in my day.

[01:37:20] [SPEAKER_03]: And it just it started getting heavy and deep.

[01:37:22] [SPEAKER_03]: I will enjoy a rewatch, but I don't know if it's going to be that that

[01:37:26] [SPEAKER_03]: office, that parks and rec, that good place in the background while I'm doing

[01:37:29] [SPEAKER_03]: stuff, just put on a random episode and watch because it's so good.

[01:37:34] [SPEAKER_03]: You do have to honor it by watching the whole damn thing.

[01:37:37] [SPEAKER_03]: So it's not just pick up and go into it.

[01:37:40] [SPEAKER_03]: So that's kind of my controversial opinion.

[01:37:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Like it's super rewatchable only as a binge.

[01:37:47] [SPEAKER_03]: It's not a casual rewatch.

[01:37:49] [SPEAKER_03]: It's an invested rewatch.

[01:37:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Great point. Like Lost.

[01:37:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. You cannot casually rewatch Lost.

[01:37:55] [SPEAKER_03]: You have to do it investedly if you're good.

[01:37:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. Yeah, you're right.

[01:38:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Because whereas like you mentioned parks and rec in the office,

[01:38:03] [SPEAKER_04]: that's a series or community or Big Bang or any of those kind of things.

[01:38:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Hop on in.

[01:38:08] [SPEAKER_04]: You can hit shuffle and whatever episode comes up, you can enjoy it.

[01:38:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. Yeah.

[01:38:13] [SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, I agree with you.

[01:38:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Having said that.

[01:38:20] [SPEAKER_00]: I also get sucked in like it's not even that like I need to be invested.

[01:38:25] [SPEAKER_00]: It's that I will put it on and be like, oh, man, this is a fucking amazing episode.

[01:38:30] [SPEAKER_00]: And literally every fucking episode, it doesn't fucking matter which one it is.

[01:38:35] [SPEAKER_00]: I everyone then like, OK, well now I just really want to watch more.

[01:38:39] [SPEAKER_00]: And it's not so much like a binge per se.

[01:38:41] [SPEAKER_00]: It's more like.

[01:38:44] [SPEAKER_00]: So fucking good.

[01:38:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

[01:38:46] [SPEAKER_00]: So that's that's my final note is that yes, I get that I do.

[01:38:52] [SPEAKER_05]: I you know, I get this is probably

[01:38:54] [SPEAKER_05]: going to be a controversial opinion as well.

[01:38:55] [SPEAKER_05]: I probably this is probably not one that I'm going to go back to

[01:39:00] [SPEAKER_05]: continually or that I'm going to reference back to it just it's good.

[01:39:04] [SPEAKER_05]: It's great.

[01:39:05] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know if it's going to be in my top five.

[01:39:07] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know if it'll be, you know, a rewatchable show.

[01:39:10] [SPEAKER_05]: I think I'm kind of with you guys.

[01:39:12] [SPEAKER_05]: If I'm going to rewatch it, I'm probably going to binge it, binge

[01:39:15] [SPEAKER_05]: a season and then take a break, then bins the next season.

[01:39:19] [SPEAKER_05]: Take a break and then been like, I don't know if I'd watch it.

[01:39:21] [SPEAKER_05]: Like I just finished this horrible.

[01:39:23] [SPEAKER_05]: I just finished a supernatural rewatch, which that's an investment.

[01:39:27] [SPEAKER_03]: That's an investment.

[01:39:28] [SPEAKER_05]: 15 seasons I just finished.

[01:39:30] [SPEAKER_05]: I never rewatched the whole series from beginning to end since it ended.

[01:39:34] [SPEAKER_05]: And I just that here a few weeks.

[01:39:36] [SPEAKER_04]: I have you beat.

[01:39:37] [SPEAKER_04]: I did a CSI rewatch, which is 23 seasons.

[01:39:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Wow. Yeah, you did.

[01:39:43] [SPEAKER_04]: And now I'm still has a wire though.

[01:39:45] [SPEAKER_04]: And now I'm in it.

[01:39:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Shut up, Alex.

[01:39:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Right. Thank you.

[01:39:50] [SPEAKER_04]: I do not know.

[01:39:51] [SPEAKER_04]: And now I'm almost done my CSI New York,

[01:39:54] [SPEAKER_04]: but my CSI New York rewatch, which is another nine.

[01:39:57] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, season eight of that right now.

[01:39:59] [SPEAKER_01]: No, you know what? Stop.

[01:40:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Like to me, that's what I would put on if I just want to go to sleep

[01:40:05] [SPEAKER_00]: because those were me to tears again, I'll take.

[01:40:09] [SPEAKER_00]: But no, I hey, you guys, I totally understand where you guys are

[01:40:14] [SPEAKER_00]: coming from with regard to not wanting to rewatch it as like a I agree.

[01:40:19] [SPEAKER_00]: It's not a light.

[01:40:21] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I will watch any episode of Parks and Rec ever,

[01:40:26] [SPEAKER_00]: but at any given time, but like this one, I would need to watch in order

[01:40:30] [SPEAKER_00]: and I would just be able to say play on Apple and they would just play next.

[01:40:34] [SPEAKER_00]: And I will know exactly where I am.

[01:40:37] [SPEAKER_00]: And again, so many parts of this

[01:40:39] [SPEAKER_00]: touched me very appropriately as opposed to the other way

[01:40:44] [SPEAKER_00]: in the in a point where I

[01:40:47] [SPEAKER_00]: I can identify with almost every character at some point.

[01:40:51] [SPEAKER_00]: And it is.

[01:40:54] [SPEAKER_00]: It I will watch this until the day that I die.

[01:40:57] [SPEAKER_01]: You got singers tonight.

[01:40:59] [SPEAKER_01]: I love it.

[01:41:00] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't. Yeah, I don't think it's a

[01:41:02] [SPEAKER_04]: controversial take at all to say what you guys are saying.

[01:41:05] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, and I agree with you, but I mean,

[01:41:07] [SPEAKER_04]: you know, like the older I get and the more I have to deal with anxiety

[01:41:10] [SPEAKER_04]: and depression and things like that every once in a while.

[01:41:13] [SPEAKER_04]: And I'm sure hopefully you guys can kind of relate to this every once in a while.

[01:41:16] [SPEAKER_04]: You got it. You kind of get in those moods where like you just need a good

[01:41:20] [SPEAKER_04]: fucking cry, you know, like whether it be a happy cry or something feel good

[01:41:25] [SPEAKER_04]: or whatever. And to me, sometimes like Lasso is that show for me

[01:41:30] [SPEAKER_04]: that we talked about this last episode, the finale of this series where they all

[01:41:36] [SPEAKER_04]: come together, where they start pulling out the pieces of the believe sign.

[01:41:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Like to me, like if I need a moment where I just need to cry happy tears,

[01:41:46] [SPEAKER_04]: I go to that scene because that's what it does.

[01:41:51] [SPEAKER_04]: So I don't think it is.

[01:41:54] [SPEAKER_04]: You're right. I don't think it's a just put on a random episode,

[01:41:57] [SPEAKER_04]: unless it's an episode like Carol, the bells or beard after hours.

[01:42:03] [SPEAKER_04]: It's something you kind of have to be

[01:42:05] [SPEAKER_04]: invested in if you go back and rewatch it or to go back and rewatch it.

[01:42:09] [SPEAKER_04]: You need to kind of be invested in it.

[01:42:12] [SPEAKER_03]: I agree that

[01:42:13] [SPEAKER_00]: I cry at sunrise, so to pull another amazing Leslie Higgins ism.

[01:42:20] [SPEAKER_00]: The fan has been removed.

[01:42:21] [SPEAKER_00]: And again, I apologize for my father.

[01:42:27] [SPEAKER_00]: So good.

[01:42:30] [SPEAKER_04]: So anything else, any final kind of things

[01:42:34] [SPEAKER_04]: about Ted Lasso? This is it.

[01:42:37] [SPEAKER_04]: This is the end of our coverage.

[01:42:39] [SPEAKER_04]: I know, right?

[01:42:42] [SPEAKER_04]: So,

[01:42:43] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah, so that means that the next time you hear us, we will be diving head

[01:42:49] [SPEAKER_04]: first into starting our coverage of The Good Place, which

[01:42:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Kristen, I know I'm I know we're both excited for this because

[01:42:58] [SPEAKER_04]: I haven't watched this show since it aired.

[01:43:02] [SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, I haven't either.

[01:43:03] [SPEAKER_01]: I haven't watched a show at all since it aired.

[01:43:05] [SPEAKER_01]: I've only seen it once through, but I loved it.

[01:43:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Loved it. Loved it. Loved it.

[01:43:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Yep. Yeah.

[01:43:12] [SPEAKER_04]: It was one of those ones I said, like I dove in because of Kristen Bell and

[01:43:16] [SPEAKER_04]: just ended up loving every.

[01:43:18] [SPEAKER_05]: Are you going to do just just for a logistical question coming from me when

[01:43:22] [SPEAKER_05]: I do a live Steve at the first episode.

[01:43:24] [SPEAKER_05]: Are you are you spoiler fool?

[01:43:27] [SPEAKER_05]: Are you going to have a spoiler section or are you just going to be all like

[01:43:30] [SPEAKER_05]: spoilers?

[01:43:32] [SPEAKER_05]: Have you decided?

[01:43:33] [SPEAKER_03]: I think you should do spoiler section if you guys have only watched it once because

[01:43:37] [SPEAKER_03]: I will spoil the shit out of so many things for you unintentionally that you've

[01:43:42] [SPEAKER_03]: forgotten, I can guarantee I will spoil so many things by episode three.

[01:43:46] [SPEAKER_03]: You're not going to play my feedback anymore.

[01:43:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, we'll just play your feedback during spoilers section like you'll be

[01:43:53] [SPEAKER_01]: our spoiler section.

[01:43:54] [SPEAKER_04]: So here's so here's my medium place.

[01:43:59] [SPEAKER_01]: He's going.

[01:44:00] [SPEAKER_01]: We have a medium place.

[01:44:02] [SPEAKER_01]: We have Alex and Claire from the medium place that is going to ruin your day.

[01:44:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Give you all this.

[01:44:08] [SPEAKER_05]: See, I don't even remember the medium place.

[01:44:09] [SPEAKER_05]: So you're not really Steve.

[01:44:12] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm right there with you.

[01:44:12] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember it either.

[01:44:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Just call the spoiler section the medium place.

[01:44:17] [SPEAKER_04]: I like it.

[01:44:19] [SPEAKER_04]: So here's my thoughts on this.

[01:44:20] [SPEAKER_04]: The only reason why we did a spoiler section for Ted Lasse was because it

[01:44:24] [SPEAKER_04]: was still relatively new.

[01:44:26] [SPEAKER_04]: It had just ended.

[01:44:27] [SPEAKER_04]: We were just diving back into it.

[01:44:28] [SPEAKER_04]: And we knew for a fact there were people that were watching it for the first time

[01:44:33] [SPEAKER_04]: and we didn't want to ruin that for them.

[01:44:36] [SPEAKER_04]: I think the good place has been out long enough.

[01:44:39] [SPEAKER_04]: When did that?

[01:44:42] [SPEAKER_00]: 2000, I was still I was in the house.

[01:44:46] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm in now. So probably 2019, 2020.

[01:44:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, 2020.

[01:44:50] [SPEAKER_01]: OK, so ended in 2020.

[01:44:52] [SPEAKER_01]: And then all this shit happened.

[01:44:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[01:44:54] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm willing to bet people watch the shit of it during Covid.

[01:44:59] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, and it started in 2016.

[01:45:01] [SPEAKER_04]: So with the episodes that we're starting

[01:45:04] [SPEAKER_04]: with, it has been eight years since these episodes aired.

[01:45:08] [SPEAKER_04]: So I think we're pretty safe to do spoilers in the conversation.

[01:45:12] [SPEAKER_04]: OK, just like we did with Lost.

[01:45:15] [SPEAKER_00]: OK, which is funny that you guys are now covering the good place because the

[01:45:19] [SPEAKER_00]: good place is my other favorite beginning to end comedy from the first episode all

[01:45:27] [SPEAKER_00]: the way, their chapters, right, they were all chapter one through

[01:45:32] [SPEAKER_00]: thirty nine or forty six or whatever the fuck it was.

[01:45:36] [SPEAKER_00]: But it like it's another it is another one of those amazing beginning to end shows.

[01:45:43] [SPEAKER_04]: It's it's one of those shows.

[01:45:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Again, there's not a lot that I remember because I haven't watched it

[01:45:48] [SPEAKER_04]: since it aired, but all I do remember the one thing I remember the most about this

[01:45:54] [SPEAKER_04]: show is how much I fucking love Janet.

[01:45:58] [SPEAKER_04]: That's phenomenal.

[01:46:00] [SPEAKER_03]: I have her Funko pop and do you really?

[01:46:03] [SPEAKER_03]: With the cactus.

[01:46:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, Darcy Carden is just such a great actress, comedic actress like

[01:46:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Nails between Janet and Derek.

[01:46:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Like they are two of my favorite.

[01:46:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Like I'm a big fan of Jason Mendoza.

[01:46:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Manzoukis is great.

[01:46:21] [SPEAKER_01]: I love Jason Mendoza as well.

[01:46:25] [SPEAKER_04]: Mortals.

[01:46:25] [SPEAKER_04]: Excuse me, John.

[01:46:27] [SPEAKER_01]: You mortals.

[01:46:28] [SPEAKER_04]: I just I just love that Jason Mendoza.

[01:46:31] [SPEAKER_04]: And it's another thing I remember, too,

[01:46:33] [SPEAKER_04]: like how much of a huge Jacksonville Jaguars fan.

[01:46:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, my God.

[01:46:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you hold.

[01:46:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, in Jacksonville, we love like mortals because he is the best quarterback of all

[01:46:49] [SPEAKER_00]: time. I mean, them talking about Jacksonville being swamp trash.

[01:46:55] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they're not wrong.

[01:46:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I live there for four years and I'm like, you know what?

[01:47:01] [SPEAKER_00]: My my kid still just moved to college from there and I'm like,

[01:47:05] [SPEAKER_03]: they're not wrong.

[01:47:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Is it Florida?

[01:47:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Just in general, Florida, Jersey, same thing.

[01:47:16] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm from Jersey and I don't know how I feel about that.

[01:47:18] [SPEAKER_03]: You're in Philly now, Ben.

[01:47:20] [SPEAKER_03]: You're in Philly now.

[01:47:21] [SPEAKER_03]: It's OK.

[01:47:21] [SPEAKER_02]: You're on the good side.

[01:47:23] [SPEAKER_03]: You're over here with Ben Franklin.

[01:47:25] [SPEAKER_03]: You're right.

[01:47:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Everything's legal in New Jersey.

[01:47:27] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm in a good place.

[01:47:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, this is going to fork it off for reals.

[01:47:35] [SPEAKER_04]: All right.

[01:47:36] [SPEAKER_04]: So I'm going to leave it to you three to leave our I didn't tell you

[01:47:40] [SPEAKER_04]: guys we're going to do this, so it's kind of off the cuff.

[01:47:43] [SPEAKER_04]: But anything you guys want to recommend because we Kristen and I give

[01:47:47] [SPEAKER_04]: recommendations every episode, so anything that maybe we haven't mentioned

[01:47:52] [SPEAKER_04]: before that you guys are enjoying that you kind of want to recommend to listeners.

[01:47:57] [SPEAKER_00]: You guys mentioned it earlier, but I mean, shrinking is phenomenal.

[01:48:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I'm a Jason Segel fan.

[01:48:04] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I really enjoyed him this passion from elsewhere.

[01:48:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, how about your mother?

[01:48:09] [SPEAKER_00]: But I'm forgetting Sarah Marshall is one of my favorite Christian Bell again.

[01:48:15] [SPEAKER_00]: shrinking is so well written and the.

[01:48:22] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm glad that it is a cable TV show or Apple or streaming or the fuck,

[01:48:27] [SPEAKER_00]: but because it makes it they are able to do so much more.

[01:48:31] [SPEAKER_00]: And I can absolutely see the style

[01:48:34] [SPEAKER_00]: of writing and style of humor from Lasso carrying over towards torturing.

[01:48:39] [SPEAKER_00]: It's so good.

[01:48:40] [SPEAKER_00]: That's what I need to be.

[01:48:42] [SPEAKER_04]: It's one I need to start.

[01:48:43] [SPEAKER_04]: I haven't started shrinking yet, but it is on my list.

[01:48:45] [SPEAKER_04]: It's super good.

[01:48:46] [SPEAKER_04]: I'll agree with that.

[01:48:47] [SPEAKER_05]: It's good.

[01:48:48] [SPEAKER_05]: It's good.

[01:48:50] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm I kind of stalled on my my rewatch of Chuck.

[01:48:53] [SPEAKER_05]: I got through the first three seasons

[01:48:54] [SPEAKER_05]: and I got about half the fourth season and there were so many things

[01:48:59] [SPEAKER_05]: that I got about to episode 13 of the 14th of the fourth season.

[01:49:04] [SPEAKER_05]: And that's where I kind of stalled out at this point.

[01:49:07] [SPEAKER_05]: Go back and rewatch Chuck.

[01:49:08] [SPEAKER_05]: It's a good show.

[01:49:11] [SPEAKER_05]: And I'm going to go back to it and finish it here soon.

[01:49:14] [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, I told I told Kristen if I watch The Wire, she has to watch Chuck.

[01:49:19] [SPEAKER_04]: It's a good trade off.

[01:49:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Christian, seriously. No, that's a legit trade off.

[01:49:22] [SPEAKER_04]: That's a legit one.

[01:49:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I'll probably watch Chuck before you even decide that you might start

[01:49:28] [SPEAKER_01]: watching The Wire, maybe

[01:49:31] [SPEAKER_01]: in a month.

[01:49:34] [SPEAKER_03]: I love it.

[01:49:35] [SPEAKER_03]: All right.

[01:49:36] [SPEAKER_03]: So for my recommendations, Ben, I'm going to build off of one that you

[01:49:38] [SPEAKER_03]: said a few weeks ago, which was Childish Gambino's Bando Stone.

[01:49:42] [SPEAKER_03]: I actually think the Superior album is the one he released earlier this summer

[01:49:45] [SPEAKER_03]: at Avista. It is hands down one of the best albums I've ever heard in my

[01:49:51] [SPEAKER_03]: entire life at Avista by Childish Gambino.

[01:49:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Cannot recommend enough for TV shows.

[01:49:56] [SPEAKER_03]: I want to recommend Hit Monkey.

[01:49:59] [SPEAKER_03]: It's on Hulu.

[01:49:59] [SPEAKER_03]: It stars Jason Sudeikis.

[01:50:01] [SPEAKER_03]: It is a cartoon Marvel property about a assassin monkey that is guided by the

[01:50:07] [SPEAKER_03]: ghost of an assassin played by Jason Sudeikis.

[01:50:09] [SPEAKER_03]: It is just as crazy as it sounds.

[01:50:12] [SPEAKER_03]: It's freaking phenomenal.

[01:50:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Those are my recommendations.

[01:50:15] [SPEAKER_01]: It sounds fake.

[01:50:19] [SPEAKER_03]: And what streaming service is that on?

[01:50:21] [SPEAKER_03]: It's on Hulu.

[01:50:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Hit Monkey.

[01:50:23] [SPEAKER_03]: OK, I will check that out.

[01:50:24] [SPEAKER_03]: You would never expect it.

[01:50:26] [SPEAKER_03]: But yes, the season two just dropped.

[01:50:28] [SPEAKER_03]: It's delightful.

[01:50:31] [SPEAKER_04]: You had me at Hit Monkey, just the title of it.

[01:50:36] [SPEAKER_04]: You're welcome. You are welcome.

[01:50:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Just the title of it is enough to make me want to check it out.

[01:50:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Twenty four minute episodes, super digestible.

[01:50:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Just have a blast.

[01:50:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Have a great time.

[01:50:46] [SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of like that show.

[01:50:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Is it kind of like, OK, I'm really going to show my

[01:50:51] [SPEAKER_01]: younger self here,

[01:50:54] [SPEAKER_01]: kind of like Aqua Teen Hunger Force.

[01:50:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Wow, that's actually not that bad.

[01:51:00] [SPEAKER_03]: No.

[01:51:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, considering how old I was when I did watch it.

[01:51:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Sure, sure.

[01:51:06] [SPEAKER_03]: It would fit in right there with like Sea Lab and Brack and Space Ghost.

[01:51:11] [SPEAKER_03]: But no, I mean, it's kind of like

[01:51:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Americanized Japanimation.

[01:51:18] [SPEAKER_03]: I can't speak on that level in their culture.

[01:51:21] [SPEAKER_03]: I just know it's hilarious.

[01:51:22] [SPEAKER_04]: OK.

[01:51:25] [SPEAKER_04]: Kristin, anything we can throw out our own as well?

[01:51:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Anything I kind of have one.

[01:51:30] [SPEAKER_01]: So yesterday was August 29th or what was yesterday?

[01:51:37] [SPEAKER_01]: What is today?

[01:51:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's today.

[01:51:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Today is the 30th.

[01:51:40] [SPEAKER_04]: OK, yesterday.

[01:51:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't have my phone and I feel like lost puppy.

[01:51:45] [SPEAKER_01]: So it's very strange.

[01:51:47] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't even it's like Vegas in my room.

[01:51:49] [SPEAKER_01]: There's no clock.

[01:51:53] [SPEAKER_01]: So yesterday, August 29th,

[01:51:54] [SPEAKER_01]: I get this meme from my cousin about it's Happy Rise of the Machines Day.

[01:52:01] [SPEAKER_01]: And so

[01:52:03] [SPEAKER_01]: so I guess in the movie Terminator,

[01:52:05] [SPEAKER_01]: he talks about August 29th being the day that the machines rose.

[01:52:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Skynet takes over on August 29th.

[01:52:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

[01:52:12] [SPEAKER_01]: So I was like, man, I got to watch Terminator 2 again.

[01:52:15] [SPEAKER_01]: So I watched Terminator 2 today and

[01:52:19] [SPEAKER_01]: it holds up as a cinematic masterpiece.

[01:52:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, like it has old special effects in there, but it is such a time

[01:52:29] [SPEAKER_01]: capsule of history for how cutting edge that movie was at that time.

[01:52:35] [SPEAKER_01]: The story holds up, the acting holds up,

[01:52:37] [SPEAKER_01]: the grittiness holds up, the tension holds up.

[01:52:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Fucking Terminator 2, Judgment Day, man.

[01:52:43] [SPEAKER_01]: That was my favorite movie as a kid.

[01:52:45] [SPEAKER_01]: I saw it in the theaters at 11 years old.

[01:52:47] [SPEAKER_01]: I should not have been in that theater.

[01:52:50] [SPEAKER_01]: My dad took me like I it was bad.

[01:52:55] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it like

[01:52:58] [SPEAKER_01]: might have made me a little dark on the inside because of it, you know.

[01:53:03] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm running anyways.

[01:53:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe everybody watch it.

[01:53:07] [SPEAKER_04]: You Could Be Mine and Civil War by Guns N' Roses is the first cassette

[01:53:13] [SPEAKER_04]: single I ever bought as a kid because you and it was from the soundtrack

[01:53:18] [SPEAKER_04]: of Terminator 2 Judgment Day.

[01:53:20] [SPEAKER_04]: I just worked an event in Colorado this past weekend and one of our

[01:53:24] [SPEAKER_04]: moderators there told me she just watched Terminator for the first time.

[01:53:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Like recently, and I told her I was like,

[01:53:34] [SPEAKER_04]: do you have any intent on watching Terminator 2?

[01:53:38] [SPEAKER_04]: She's like, I'll get to it eventually.

[01:53:39] [SPEAKER_04]: I was like, do it.

[01:53:41] [SPEAKER_04]: It's better than Terminator.

[01:53:43] [SPEAKER_04]: So I told her, I was like, if you think Terminator is good,

[01:53:46] [SPEAKER_04]: you have no idea what you are in for.

[01:53:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Steve does not agree.

[01:53:52] [SPEAKER_01]: He just pushed away.

[01:53:53] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm really excited for what Steve's about to say.

[01:53:55] [SPEAKER_01]: He rolled away.

[01:53:56] [SPEAKER_03]: That was amazing.

[01:53:58] [SPEAKER_03]: You guys didn't see the nonverbals, but they were strong.

[01:54:01] [SPEAKER_03]: They were strong.

[01:54:03] [SPEAKER_04]: That bacon bond is about to come out, man.

[01:54:05] [SPEAKER_01]: All right, go.

[01:54:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Please.

[01:54:07] [SPEAKER_05]: I respect your opinions and

[01:54:13] [SPEAKER_05]: it grates me.

[01:54:15] [SPEAKER_05]: It grates me that so many people think Terminator 2 is such a superior movie

[01:54:21] [SPEAKER_05]: that it just grates on me.

[01:54:23] [SPEAKER_05]: I like Terminator.

[01:54:24] [SPEAKER_05]: Don't get me wrong, it's a great movie, but the Terminator is so

[01:54:32] [SPEAKER_05]: I can't even.

[01:54:33] [SPEAKER_05]: I need words, man.

[01:54:34] [SPEAKER_05]: My head is exploding with just the acting of.

[01:54:41] [SPEAKER_05]: And why is his name escaping me?

[01:54:43] [SPEAKER_05]: Kyle.

[01:54:43] [SPEAKER_05]: Who?

[01:54:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Furlong?

[01:54:45] [SPEAKER_05]: No, no, no. The Terminator.

[01:54:47] [SPEAKER_05]: The first one, the Terminator.

[01:54:50] [SPEAKER_05]: The guy who played Kyle Reese.

[01:54:52] [SPEAKER_05]: He was in Tombstone.

[01:54:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, Michael.

[01:54:54] [SPEAKER_05]: Michael.

[01:54:55] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, Michael.

[01:54:55] [SPEAKER_05]: Thank you.

[01:54:57] [SPEAKER_05]: Is the amazing way he plays that character for me will always set aside

[01:55:04] [SPEAKER_05]: the Terminator, just his his portrayal.

[01:55:09] [SPEAKER_05]: The first time we hear an actor say, come with me if you want to live.

[01:55:14] [SPEAKER_05]: And just his delivery, his acting in that movie was outstanding.

[01:55:19] [SPEAKER_05]: He's an amazing actor anyway.

[01:55:21] [SPEAKER_05]: But for me, the Terminator is is well and above.

[01:55:26] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, Terminator 2 is great and

[01:55:28] [SPEAKER_05]: refer along, Schwarzenegger.

[01:55:32] [SPEAKER_05]: Why are actors names escaping me?

[01:55:34] [SPEAKER_05]: The T-1000.

[01:55:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Robert Patrick.

[01:55:38] [SPEAKER_05]: All of them, Linda Hamilton, her her her physique and her physical prowess in

[01:55:43] [SPEAKER_05]: Terminator 2 is amazing.

[01:55:45] [SPEAKER_01]: I wanted to be her.

[01:55:46] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[01:55:47] [SPEAKER_05]: It was she was the Sigourney Weaver of that that age.

[01:55:52] [SPEAKER_05]: You know,

[01:55:54] [SPEAKER_05]: so but yeah, for me, Terminator, like I said, I respect your opinions.

[01:55:58] [SPEAKER_05]: And a lot of people say Terminator 2 is a superior movie.

[01:56:01] [SPEAKER_05]: I disagree.

[01:56:02] [SPEAKER_05]: I think of them almost almost separate them like Alien and Aliens.

[01:56:07] [SPEAKER_05]: They're they're two separate movies you can't really compare.

[01:56:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think that you're right.

[01:56:12] [SPEAKER_01]: They both stand on their own.

[01:56:15] [SPEAKER_01]: They I mean, you can watch Terminator 2

[01:56:17] [SPEAKER_01]: without ever having watched Terminator 1 and vice versa, obviously.

[01:56:22] [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, they are two standalone movies

[01:56:24] [SPEAKER_01]: that are linked in the same world with the same characters.

[01:56:27] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that that's a better better way to say that.

[01:56:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Like I said, I respect your opinions and like I

[01:56:34] [SPEAKER_01]: was the nicest way to disagree after the physical reaction that you had.

[01:56:42] [SPEAKER_04]: People have no idea they can't see Steve was literally twitching.

[01:56:46] [SPEAKER_01]: All your feelings exploded out of your body and you like hit the back wall.

[01:56:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Then you come back.

[01:56:52] [SPEAKER_01]: You're like, I respect your opinion.

[01:56:54] [SPEAKER_01]: And that is what I'm like, where what what just happened?

[01:56:58] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I respectfully allow you to be wrong.

[01:57:01] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, Steve physically pushed himself away from his desk.

[01:57:06] [SPEAKER_04]: He rolled at the thought of Terminator 2 being better than Terminator.

[01:57:11] [SPEAKER_03]: It was the most gracious dissenting in American history.

[01:57:16] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, if Steve had a laptop, he would have closed the lid.

[01:57:21] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's it's kind of I can close.

[01:57:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I said, I'm done.

[01:57:28] [SPEAKER_01]: We now know that with this software that you can leave and it's fine.

[01:57:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Shut up triggers the triggers for me.

[01:57:41] [SPEAKER_04]: So then I will make my recommendation that we'll wrap this up.

[01:57:46] [SPEAKER_04]: I had one and I lost it with that whole diet,

[01:57:50] [SPEAKER_04]: that whole diatribe about Terminator, which was awesome.

[01:57:53] [SPEAKER_01]: That was he convinced I'm going to watch Terminator when we are finished.

[01:57:58] [SPEAKER_04]: You might have been the highlight of the entire episode.

[01:58:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Is it weird that that conversation made me want to watch Demolition Man?

[01:58:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's so good.

[01:58:08] [SPEAKER_03]: That's a better movie.

[01:58:09] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know why, but when I think of Terminator,

[01:58:11] [SPEAKER_03]: I think to myself, I'll go watch Demolition Man instead every time.

[01:58:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Every time RoboCop 2, RoboCop 2.

[01:58:17] [SPEAKER_03]: He doesn't understand the shells.

[01:58:20] [SPEAKER_04]: He doesn't get the three.

[01:58:24] [SPEAKER_04]: So I want to say first off, like a show that we've recommended before.

[01:58:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Only Murders in the Building, the fourth season has debuted and is getting rave

[01:58:33] [SPEAKER_04]: reviews, even though it's only one episode in.

[01:58:35] [SPEAKER_04]: And then there's another there's another

[01:58:37] [SPEAKER_04]: show on Netflix that just recently came out that I haven't watched yet,

[01:58:40] [SPEAKER_04]: but I'm still going to make it my recommendation because it's one I will

[01:58:42] [SPEAKER_04]: be watching soon. There's a show called Chaos that just debuted.

[01:58:48] [SPEAKER_04]: And I don't know about you, but this show had me at Jeff Goldblum playing Zeus.

[01:58:56] [SPEAKER_04]: All I needed to hear about the show to make me want to watch it

[01:59:00] [SPEAKER_04]: because Jeff Goldblum is just.

[01:59:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Amazing.

[01:59:05] [SPEAKER_01]: So great call, great call.

[01:59:08] [SPEAKER_03]: You thought Chaos Theory himself, if you thought Steve Buscemi as God was

[01:59:13] [SPEAKER_03]: good, this is going to be 10 times better.

[01:59:20] [SPEAKER_04]: But Steve, Greg, Alex, we want to thank you guys for coming on and doing this

[01:59:25] [SPEAKER_04]: whole season with us.

[01:59:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.

[01:59:28] [SPEAKER_04]: We went about an hour longer than we had initially planned, but I don't care.

[01:59:32] [SPEAKER_03]: When you said we'll be on for like 45 minutes to an hour,

[01:59:35] [SPEAKER_03]: I thought to myself, bullshit.

[01:59:37] [SPEAKER_03]: I've heard all of us leave voicemails, man.

[01:59:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Like there's no way we're going to get there.

[01:59:43] [SPEAKER_03]: That's not happening.

[01:59:45] [SPEAKER_01]: At least he kept us on schedule.

[01:59:47] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, it is true.

[01:59:48] [SPEAKER_04]: I kept it moving.

[01:59:50] [SPEAKER_01]: We got talking about Jamie Tart.

[01:59:55] [SPEAKER_04]: We'd be back still talking about his hair, you know, like an hour and a half ago.

[02:00:01] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm a cut it.

[02:00:02] [SPEAKER_04]: So but yeah, I want to thank you guys

[02:00:04] [SPEAKER_04]: for coming on and being a part of this whole thing with us.

[02:00:07] [SPEAKER_04]: We want to thank everybody else who ever left us feedback throughout,

[02:00:10] [SPEAKER_04]: whether it be Facebook or, you know, we had our friend Jason from San Jose,

[02:00:15] [SPEAKER_04]: who's left us a lot of feedback as well.

[02:00:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Des has left us feedback over the course of it.

[02:00:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Megan, there's so many people

[02:00:22] [SPEAKER_04]: that's many people who have left us feedback.

[02:00:25] [SPEAKER_04]: We hope you guys continue to do so as we move forward into the good place.

[02:00:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Make sure you're telling your friends about the podcast as well.

[02:00:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Anything you guys want to plug as far

[02:00:35] [SPEAKER_04]: as your own projects and because Alex, I know you got you have your podcast

[02:00:39] [SPEAKER_04]: going now, Steve, Greg, I know you guys are podcasters as well.

[02:00:43] [SPEAKER_04]: I want to give you guys the opportunity

[02:00:45] [SPEAKER_04]: to plug your stuff before we wrap this up.

[02:00:49] [SPEAKER_04]: So, Alex, we'll start with you.

[02:00:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Perfect. Thank you, Ben.

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[02:01:25] [SPEAKER_04]: Steve, how about you? Anything going on podcast world?

[02:01:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

[02:01:29] [SPEAKER_05]: The Panels for Pixels podcast.

[02:01:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Mark and I just started our coverage of the Umbrella Academy Season Four.

[02:01:35] [SPEAKER_05]: It's the final season.

[02:01:36] [SPEAKER_05]: There's only six episodes.

[02:01:38] [SPEAKER_05]: We've done the first episode and we're going to do the second episode tomorrow.

[02:01:41] [SPEAKER_05]: So, yeah.

[02:01:43] [SPEAKER_05]: So Panels to Pixels podcast.

[02:01:45] [SPEAKER_05]: Check us out. We're on all the forms, as Alex said.

[02:01:49] [SPEAKER_04]: All right. And Greg, how about you?

[02:01:54] [SPEAKER_00]: I have kids, so no,

[02:01:59] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm podcasting in my car right now.

[02:02:05] [SPEAKER_00]: This point, I did

[02:02:08] [SPEAKER_00]: penny and I did end up finishing the extraordinary cast.

[02:02:11] [SPEAKER_00]: And I literally just published the last two episodes because.

[02:02:15] [SPEAKER_00]: I finally had the fucking time to finish it up, but

[02:02:20] [SPEAKER_00]: no, I mean, I got nothing at this point.

[02:02:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully in the next three to six months, I'll be able to do more, but no.

[02:02:30] [SPEAKER_04]: fair enough.

[02:02:32] [SPEAKER_04]: As for us, of course, we encourage you guys, as I said, to share the

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[02:02:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Or you can find us on Spotify or wherever podcasts are found.

[02:02:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Revisited Podcom or the revisited

[02:02:48] [SPEAKER_04]: podcast if you search for it on on podcasting streams.

[02:02:53] [SPEAKER_04]: My Wilhelm podcast is going to be returning for a new season in a couple

[02:02:56] [SPEAKER_04]: weeks. I have a ton of backlog stuff to release, including panels with people

[02:03:01] [SPEAKER_04]: like Ross Mark, Ross Mark, Kwan, Anson Mount, so many others.

[02:03:08] [SPEAKER_04]: And later on in the beginning of next year, I'm excited about this.

[02:03:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Kristen knows how excited I am about this.

[02:03:14] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to have audio of a panel I'm doing in November that I'm not I

[02:03:18] [SPEAKER_04]: won't be able to wait to put out.

[02:03:20] [SPEAKER_04]: I just recently found out and it has been confirmed.

[02:03:23] [SPEAKER_04]: I will be hosting a panel with the cast of Back to the Future.

[02:03:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Also in November.

[02:03:29] [SPEAKER_04]: So anybody who knows me knows that I'm a massive Back to the Future fan.

[02:03:35] [SPEAKER_04]: So I will have audio of that panel after it happens in November.

[02:03:39] [SPEAKER_04]: I'll have this is heavy.

[02:03:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you.

[02:03:43] [SPEAKER_04]: And that includes Michael J.

[02:03:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Fox, too, by the way, which is congrats.

[02:03:48] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[02:03:49] [SPEAKER_04]: But that new season that's dropping in September as well.

[02:03:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Wilhelm podcast.com is where you can find all of that.

[02:03:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I think, Kristen, any final thoughts on everything before we wrap it?

[02:04:03] [SPEAKER_01]: No, you guys did a real good job there.

[02:04:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Wrapping it up. Good job.

[02:04:06] [SPEAKER_04]: All right.

[02:04:07] [SPEAKER_01]: So and female has spoken.

[02:04:13] [SPEAKER_04]: So I can't use will see you back out on the pitch because we won't.

[02:04:19] [SPEAKER_01]: So everything is fine.

[02:04:22] [SPEAKER_04]: I was going to say, well, everything is everything.

[02:04:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Alex, are you all right?

[02:04:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Alex, it's one of my favorite tag lines in television history.

[02:04:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Everything is fine.

[02:04:33] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to.

[02:04:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Everything is fine.

[02:04:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[02:04:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you.

[02:04:38] [SPEAKER_04]: I was going to say until next time be good or at least try your best.

[02:04:44] [SPEAKER_04]: But everything is fine might work, too.

[02:04:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, sure.

[02:04:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Just remember, everything is fine.

[02:04:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Everything is fine.

[02:04:51] [SPEAKER_04]: And so then I will I will do that.

[02:04:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Then we'll try that on for size.

[02:04:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you for listening.

[02:04:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you for subscribing all that you guys do.

[02:05:00] [SPEAKER_04]: But until next time, just remember, everything is fine.

[02:05:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Namaste, working.