Episode 141: TED LASSO S03E12 "So Long, Farewell"

[00:00:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Shuck your buds and sit your mouths down!

[00:00:17] [SPEAKER_08]: You know what I meant!

[00:00:22] [SPEAKER_02]: Thanks coach.

[00:00:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, Phelps, we got our work cut out for us in the second half.

[00:00:31] [SPEAKER_02]: But you know, I'll get to all that in a minute.

[00:00:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Now, right now all I want to do is let you gentlemen know what an absolute honor it's been

[00:00:39] [SPEAKER_02]: to be your coach.

[00:00:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Getting to work with you all these last three years has truly been one of the greatest experiences

[00:00:46] [SPEAKER_02]: in my life.

[00:00:49] [SPEAKER_02]: I've loved getting to know each and every single one of you.

[00:00:53] [SPEAKER_02]: Learning all about the men you were and getting a front row seat to see the men you

[00:00:59] [SPEAKER_02]: all become.

[00:01:03] [SPEAKER_02]: And I want to thank you for your patience with me.

[00:01:05] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, when I showed up here I didn't know one thing about soccer.

[00:01:08] [SPEAKER_02]: But now, well now I know at least one thing about football.

[00:01:16] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just so gosh damn proud to be a part of this team.

[00:01:19] [SPEAKER_02]: And I love you guys.

[00:01:30] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna miss y'all.

[00:01:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Alright, let's bring it in.

[00:01:48] [SPEAKER_02]: I know folks like to say there's no place like home.

[00:01:53] [SPEAKER_02]: That's true.

[00:02:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Man, there ain't a whole lot of places like AFC Richmond either.

[00:02:07] [SPEAKER_02]: Cam.

[00:02:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Regional free.

[00:02:11] [SPEAKER_02]: One, two, three, three, five!

[00:02:46] [SPEAKER_08]: Welcome to another episode of the Revisited Podcast.

[00:02:50] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm Ben.

[00:02:52] [SPEAKER_04]: And I'm Kristen.

[00:02:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Today we are revisiting the finale of Ted Lasso, Season 3 Episode 12 So Long Farewell.

[00:03:02] [SPEAKER_04]: And I'm still not ready.

[00:03:04] [SPEAKER_08]: Let me tell you something.

[00:03:07] I'm.

[00:03:10] [SPEAKER_08]: Watching this episode.

[00:03:12] [SPEAKER_08]: Back to back last night and this morning.

[00:03:17] [SPEAKER_08]: Was not easy.

[00:03:20] [SPEAKER_08]: And now we get to sit and talk about it.

[00:03:24] [SPEAKER_08]: I am.

[00:03:26] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm already there, but I am going to be so

[00:03:31] [SPEAKER_08]: emotionally drained by the end of this

[00:03:34] [SPEAKER_08]: by the end of this conversation.

[00:03:39] [SPEAKER_08]: And I'm putting it out there now and I'm going to speak for both of us on this behalf.

[00:03:44] [SPEAKER_08]: Sorry, not sorry if we get emotional during this conversation.

[00:03:49] [SPEAKER_08]: It's it's happened with previous conversations talking about the series.

[00:03:53] [SPEAKER_08]: But come on, like this is.

[00:03:55] [SPEAKER_08]: This is the series finale.

[00:03:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, there is.

[00:03:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I feel like I'm Rebecca in this episode where she's like,

[00:04:03] [SPEAKER_04]: no, not going to talk about it.

[00:04:05] [SPEAKER_04]: No, yeah, no, not going to make it real.

[00:04:08] [SPEAKER_04]: That was me the whole time.

[00:04:10] [SPEAKER_04]: No, no, no, no, no, no.

[00:04:12] [SPEAKER_08]: That was that was pretty much us this entire this entire season.

[00:04:17] [SPEAKER_08]: We knew it was ending.

[00:04:18] [SPEAKER_08]: We knew it was going to be the end of discussing the show.

[00:04:21] [SPEAKER_08]: And, you know, we're just covering every episode leading up to it like,

[00:04:25] [SPEAKER_08]: no, not going to talk about the finale.

[00:04:26] [SPEAKER_08]: Not going to talk about it.

[00:04:27] [SPEAKER_08]: We know it's coming.

[00:04:28] [SPEAKER_08]: Not going to talk about it.

[00:04:29] [SPEAKER_08]: Now we have to talk about it.

[00:04:33] [SPEAKER_08]: No, I want to.

[00:04:34] [SPEAKER_08]: I know it's.

[00:04:37] [SPEAKER_08]: I will tell you this.

[00:04:39] [SPEAKER_08]: I held off on watching this finale until I had to.

[00:04:46] [SPEAKER_08]: Because I wanted to see emotionally how different

[00:04:51] [SPEAKER_08]: it was the second time around.

[00:04:54] [SPEAKER_08]: And let me tell you.

[00:04:56] [SPEAKER_08]: There were some scenes that hit just as hard as the first time.

[00:05:01] [SPEAKER_08]: And there were some scenes that hit harder this time around

[00:05:05] [SPEAKER_08]: than they did the first time.

[00:05:10] [SPEAKER_08]: We will get to that as we go through.

[00:05:15] [SPEAKER_08]: We're going to format the discussion a little differently this time.

[00:05:18] [SPEAKER_08]: Obviously, we don't have to give you warnings for spoilers

[00:05:20] [SPEAKER_08]: because this is it like this is everything we're going to talk about.

[00:05:25] [SPEAKER_08]: So we're not going to have a spoiler section this episode either.

[00:05:28] [SPEAKER_08]: And quotes were just going to incorporate into the conversation.

[00:05:32] [SPEAKER_08]: We're not going to do a separate quotes section at the end.

[00:05:35] [SPEAKER_08]: However, we will do a callbacks and full circle moments section

[00:05:43] [SPEAKER_08]: towards the end because there's a lot to discuss in there.

[00:05:49] [SPEAKER_08]: Sound good?

[00:05:50] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. All right.

[00:05:52] [SPEAKER_08]: With that said.

[00:05:56] [SPEAKER_08]: Let's let's let's just start it.

[00:05:58] [SPEAKER_08]: Let's just get into it because we got to do it and.

[00:06:04] [SPEAKER_08]: All right. Where do you want to start?

[00:06:07] [SPEAKER_08]: I feel like we should try and go in order.

[00:06:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I don't want to go in order

[00:06:12] [SPEAKER_04]: because I want to say something like right off the bat.

[00:06:14] [SPEAKER_08]: OK, then just go for it.

[00:06:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Beards first name is Willis.

[00:06:19] [SPEAKER_08]: I know.

[00:06:22] [SPEAKER_04]: How did we miss this the first time around?

[00:06:25] [SPEAKER_08]: So technically this falls into the callbacks

[00:06:30] [SPEAKER_08]: and full circle moments because in the first season

[00:06:34] [SPEAKER_08]: it might have even been the pilot.

[00:06:36] [SPEAKER_08]: Ted does say to coach, what are you talking about Willis?

[00:06:41] [SPEAKER_08]: He says, what are you talking about Willis?

[00:06:44] [SPEAKER_08]: We knowing Ted as what we know about Ted thought

[00:06:47] [SPEAKER_08]: this was just another pop culture reference.

[00:06:50] [SPEAKER_08]: Ted being Ted turns out.

[00:06:52] [SPEAKER_08]: Well, that was actually Beards real name when he said it.

[00:06:57] [SPEAKER_08]: It's his name is Willis.

[00:06:59] [SPEAKER_04]: I love you to Willis.

[00:07:03] [SPEAKER_04]: I just sat there and go whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[00:07:06] [SPEAKER_04]: And I backed it up and I put it on subtitles.

[00:07:10] [SPEAKER_04]: I was like, did I just hear what I just heard?

[00:07:12] [SPEAKER_04]: And it says I love you to Willis.

[00:07:13] [SPEAKER_04]: I was like, oh my god.

[00:07:14] [SPEAKER_08]: So did you not pick up on it the first time you watched it?

[00:07:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Of course not.

[00:07:21] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I picked up on it the first time I watched this

[00:07:23] [SPEAKER_08]: the series finale and yeah, it's just it's so funny because again,

[00:07:28] [SPEAKER_08]: I picked up on it the first time we the first time I watched it.

[00:07:32] [SPEAKER_08]: So it was when I heard that when we started

[00:07:35] [SPEAKER_08]: finally diving back into the series and we were back in season one

[00:07:38] [SPEAKER_08]: and I heard him say what you talking about Willis?

[00:07:40] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm like, oh, that's actually his name.

[00:07:43] [SPEAKER_04]: That's I remembered that.

[00:07:46] [SPEAKER_04]: That's awesome.

[00:07:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I was really excited about that.

[00:07:49] [SPEAKER_04]: And I'm not going to lie.

[00:07:50] [SPEAKER_04]: I was like, oh my gosh.

[00:07:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh my gosh. Of course, his name is Willis.

[00:07:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Because he's so cute.

[00:07:57] [SPEAKER_08]: But oh, there's that whole scene.

[00:08:00] [SPEAKER_08]: Of of of Beard staying behind is just.

[00:08:06] [SPEAKER_04]: There's a moment.

[00:08:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Beard was leaving with Ted never made any sense anyways.

[00:08:10] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean the whole time they're sitting there

[00:08:12] [SPEAKER_04]: and they're talking about the fact that they're going,

[00:08:13] [SPEAKER_04]: you know, they're both leaving.

[00:08:14] [SPEAKER_04]: They're both leaving Beards leaving here as a gift for Beard.

[00:08:18] [SPEAKER_04]: It never made sense to me because I mean,

[00:08:21] [SPEAKER_04]: for the entire run of this show,

[00:08:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Beard has found a home in England.

[00:08:28] [SPEAKER_04]: We see that.

[00:08:29] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, when we go to an apartment, you see he's moved in.

[00:08:33] [SPEAKER_04]: He's got a bookshelf.

[00:08:34] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, you go to Ted's apartment

[00:08:36] [SPEAKER_04]: and it's obvious that this is temporary for him.

[00:08:39] [SPEAKER_04]: You had a Beards apartment

[00:08:41] [SPEAKER_04]: that it looks like he's lived there for 50 years.

[00:08:44] [SPEAKER_08]: He's made himself comfortable.

[00:08:46] [SPEAKER_08]: Like, yeah. And I think I think that's just it.

[00:08:48] [SPEAKER_08]: I think Beard had already made the decision

[00:08:50] [SPEAKER_08]: that where he goes, that's where he stays,

[00:08:53] [SPEAKER_08]: you know, until he's forced to leave.

[00:08:55] [SPEAKER_08]: And this time it wasn't forced.

[00:08:57] [SPEAKER_08]: He was doing it out of loyalty for Ted.

[00:09:00] [SPEAKER_08]: That was the reason why he was going home.

[00:09:03] [SPEAKER_08]: And, you know, we kind of see that a little bit,

[00:09:07] [SPEAKER_08]: you know, that Beard is changing too.

[00:09:10] [SPEAKER_08]: We saw that last episode in his apology to him

[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_08]: and his forgiveness with Nate.

[00:09:14] [SPEAKER_08]: And now we're seeing that more in this episode

[00:09:17] [SPEAKER_08]: in that there's more acknowledgement that people can change.

[00:09:23] [SPEAKER_08]: And that whole scene of them saying goodbye to one another,

[00:09:27] [SPEAKER_08]: like it again, he was saying he was staying behind

[00:09:30] [SPEAKER_08]: or he was going home out of loyalty for Ted.

[00:09:32] [SPEAKER_08]: But you're right, he is made a home in England

[00:09:34] [SPEAKER_08]: with Jade, with his friends, with his nightlife.

[00:09:38] [SPEAKER_08]: Like this is a place for Beard to be Beard.

[00:09:42] [SPEAKER_08]: He has never been anyone other than Beard in in London and the UK.

[00:09:48] [SPEAKER_04]: He's free to be who he wants to be, because I mean, really,

[00:09:51] [SPEAKER_04]: when you when you tear it all down,

[00:09:54] [SPEAKER_04]: you know, America is a very prudish,

[00:09:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Puritan kind of nation and Europe is, you know, way more free, you know?

[00:10:06] [SPEAKER_04]: So of course, Beard is going to be happier there

[00:10:10] [SPEAKER_04]: because he feels like he can be himself there.

[00:10:12] [SPEAKER_04]: And he found the one person on this planet

[00:10:17] [SPEAKER_04]: that accepts him for who he is other than Ted.

[00:10:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, not only with Ted, I think with I'm so sorry.

[00:10:26] [SPEAKER_04]: No, that's fine.

[00:10:27] [SPEAKER_04]: I think with Ted, with Beard,

[00:10:29] [SPEAKER_04]: there is that brotherhood relationship between the two of them.

[00:10:33] [SPEAKER_04]: However, Beard has always felt that he is under Ted for obvious reasons.

[00:10:39] [SPEAKER_04]: We learn about, you know, their history.

[00:10:42] [SPEAKER_04]: We learn about Beard's history.

[00:10:43] [SPEAKER_04]: We learn about kind of who he is and who he's become over

[00:10:47] [SPEAKER_04]: over the years that he's known Ted.

[00:10:50] [SPEAKER_04]: This is Beard's opportunity to get out from underneath that

[00:10:54] [SPEAKER_04]: and just be Beard and not Ted and Beard.

[00:10:57] [SPEAKER_08]: Well, and I think both of them realize that at this moment, too.

[00:11:01] [SPEAKER_08]: I feel like, you know, when I said like he was going to go home

[00:11:03] [SPEAKER_08]: because of his loyalty to Ted, I feel like Beard has always felt

[00:11:07] [SPEAKER_08]: because of that backstory that we got last episode in how Ted rescued him

[00:11:11] [SPEAKER_08]: and allowed him, gave him a place to stay, gave him a life.

[00:11:15] [SPEAKER_08]: Beard has always felt, you know, when when you say Beard has always felt

[00:11:19] [SPEAKER_08]: he's under Ted, I think professionally he feels that way.

[00:11:22] [SPEAKER_08]: But I think also in life, he feels like he owes his life to Ted.

[00:11:28] [SPEAKER_08]: And Ted being Ted is like, no, like you are your own person.

[00:11:34] [SPEAKER_08]: I basically just rescued like I rescued you, but you became yourself.

[00:11:38] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't even think that Ted views it as rescuing him.

[00:11:42] [SPEAKER_04]: I think just use it as, you know, my friend needed me

[00:11:46] [SPEAKER_04]: and the right thing to do was to forgive him and give him another chance

[00:11:50] [SPEAKER_04]: because that's that's Ted. That's what he does.

[00:11:53] [SPEAKER_04]: That's what he's done with everybody, with Jamie, with Roy,

[00:11:56] [SPEAKER_04]: with Nate, with Beard, with Rebecca.

[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, Rebecca brought him out on false pretenses.

[00:12:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. You know, and tried to ruin him just to get it at her ex

[00:12:09] [SPEAKER_04]: and look at look at what how magnanimous Ted was in that situation.

[00:12:15] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. Well, Beard, the only person who ever thought Ted was above Beard was Beard.

[00:12:21] [SPEAKER_08]: Right. Ted never believed he was above Beard.

[00:12:25] [SPEAKER_04]: It's almost like Beard needed to get that sense of confidence

[00:12:29] [SPEAKER_04]: and self-knowing in his like feel good in his identity to be able to leave Ted.

[00:12:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Like Ted was his crutch.

[00:12:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Ted was his I don't want to screw my life up again.

[00:12:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Bandaid. Yeah.

[00:12:43] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. And you know, going back to what you said about Jane, too,

[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_08]: you know, the one person on this planet who, you know, accepts him for who he is.

[00:12:51] [SPEAKER_08]: I would even go a step further and would say like who might actually be crazier than him.

[00:12:57] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.

[00:12:59] [SPEAKER_08]: I think Beard and Jane have found crazy in each other.

[00:13:03] [SPEAKER_08]: And that's why it works.

[00:13:06] [SPEAKER_04]: They kind of bring it out and subdue it in each other.

[00:13:10] [SPEAKER_08]: It's it's a it's a harmonization of crazy.

[00:13:15] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. If that makes any sense.

[00:13:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Like, yeah, I mean, we know Jane so well by the end of this series

[00:13:23] [SPEAKER_04]: that when she comes downstairs into the kitchen and Rebecca's jacket, we're like,

[00:13:27] [SPEAKER_08]: yeah, that's that's strange.

[00:13:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Totally went into Rebecca's closet and stole her couture clothing.

[00:13:35] [SPEAKER_08]: I just love that she's like, I borrowed your dress

[00:13:38] [SPEAKER_08]: and then Rebecca's like, well, it's a blazer.

[00:13:41] [SPEAKER_08]: But sure.

[00:13:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, Rebecca is like a million feet tall.

[00:13:45] [SPEAKER_04]: So yeah, true. That would be a dress on me, too.

[00:13:48] [SPEAKER_08]: But, you know, like it's like when I say like a harmonization of crazy,

[00:13:52] [SPEAKER_08]: it's like they both have these wild and wazy, wild and crazy wavelengths

[00:13:57] [SPEAKER_08]: of their life, wazy, wazy.

[00:14:01] [SPEAKER_08]: That's wild and crazy.

[00:14:02] [SPEAKER_08]: You know, these wild and crazy wavelengths of their wavelengths of their life.

[00:14:07] [SPEAKER_08]: But when they come together, they kind of harmonize,

[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_08]: you know, and they both know that about each other, which is why they are together.

[00:14:16] [SPEAKER_08]: They've been together since season one.

[00:14:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it goes from chaos to yeah, what like.

[00:14:23] [SPEAKER_04]: To harmony.

[00:14:24] [SPEAKER_04]: To harmony, absolutely.

[00:14:25] [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, it's harmony for them.

[00:14:28] [SPEAKER_08]: It's still crazy to everybody else around them.

[00:14:31] [SPEAKER_04]: I didn't notice until this time around that Jane was pregnant at their wedding.

[00:14:35] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. Yeah.

[00:14:37] [SPEAKER_04]: And then who was the person with the baby?

[00:14:39] [SPEAKER_08]: That was from Beards Night Out.

[00:14:41] [SPEAKER_08]: That was the lady in red that he goes to their apartment.

[00:14:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Think I thought so, but she looked so different.

[00:14:48] [SPEAKER_08]: Well, because we're very confused.

[00:14:50] [SPEAKER_08]: Well, because don't forget in Beards Night Out,

[00:14:53] [SPEAKER_08]: she says that the guy that chases Beard says he was jealous

[00:14:57] [SPEAKER_08]: because they're going to have a baby.

[00:15:00] [SPEAKER_08]: The lady in red is pregnant at that time.

[00:15:03] [SPEAKER_04]: OK. She.

[00:15:04] [SPEAKER_08]: But I think she's like newly pregnant at that time. OK. OK.

[00:15:08] [SPEAKER_08]: So, yeah.

[00:15:10] [SPEAKER_04]: So that was the one thing that I could not fit into my brain during that scene.

[00:15:15] [SPEAKER_04]: I was like, I know I'm supposed to know these people and I totally forget.

[00:15:19] [SPEAKER_08]: I know we're already so out of order.

[00:15:22] [SPEAKER_08]: We jumped right to Beard and Ted's goodbye.

[00:15:23] [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, I had to. His name is Willis.

[00:15:26] [SPEAKER_08]: But so sticking with that scene again real quick,

[00:15:29] [SPEAKER_08]: one of my favorite moments for that scene that makes me laugh every time

[00:15:32] [SPEAKER_08]: is when Beard is putting his plan into effect on how to get off the plane

[00:15:38] [SPEAKER_08]: and he throws the water at his face and beer and Ted's like,

[00:15:40] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't know what's about to happen, but that's a good start.

[00:15:44] [SPEAKER_08]: That is a good start. Yeah.

[00:15:45] [SPEAKER_08]: And he starts screaming and he's like, my appendix, my appendix.

[00:15:49] [SPEAKER_08]: And Ted's like other side. Thank you.

[00:15:51] [SPEAKER_08]: And then he just switches.

[00:15:54] [SPEAKER_04]: And he winks at Ted on the way out the way that Jamie winks

[00:15:57] [SPEAKER_04]: at Sam after he did his foul.

[00:16:01] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. Yeah.

[00:16:02] [SPEAKER_04]: And I said that beard was like, hey, I played that foul correctly.

[00:16:07] [SPEAKER_04]: And it's another plane.

[00:16:09] [SPEAKER_08]: And it's another call. But yeah, exactly.

[00:16:11] [SPEAKER_08]: I faked it well. Right. Exactly.

[00:16:14] [SPEAKER_08]: And there's another and another callback in that scene, too,

[00:16:17] [SPEAKER_08]: is the stewardess or the airline attendant

[00:16:19] [SPEAKER_08]: is the same one we've seen throughout this season.

[00:16:22] [SPEAKER_08]: She was the one that helped Henry get on the plane.

[00:16:25] [SPEAKER_08]: I think she's helped Ted on the plane as well when he was coming

[00:16:30] [SPEAKER_08]: to London.

[00:16:31] [SPEAKER_04]: I like it that she called him an asshole.

[00:16:33] [SPEAKER_04]: What an asshole?

[00:16:34] [SPEAKER_04]: It's kind of like a welcome back to America thing, Dick.

[00:16:38] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, kind of.

[00:16:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. Because the British are so wonderfully polite.

[00:16:42] [SPEAKER_04]: And then you go to America and we're just like, get out of the way, you jag.

[00:16:50] [SPEAKER_08]: Let's jump back to the beginning of the episode

[00:16:52] [SPEAKER_08]: and talk about that opening in Rebecca's kitchen, because

[00:16:56] [SPEAKER_08]: I love this scene because they do a good job of making you believe

[00:17:00] [SPEAKER_08]: something might have happened between Ted and Rebecca,

[00:17:04] [SPEAKER_08]: because Ted is waking up in Rebecca's house, like walking into the kitchen.

[00:17:10] [SPEAKER_08]: And it's been a like, I know leading up to that point,

[00:17:14] [SPEAKER_08]: there were people saying, like, how come Ted and Rebecca don't get together?

[00:17:18] [SPEAKER_08]: And, you know, they do a good job of leading you to believe like,

[00:17:22] [SPEAKER_08]: oh, maybe they did get together before Ted went home

[00:17:25] [SPEAKER_08]: and then no beard and Jane come out to.

[00:17:29] [SPEAKER_08]: And you realize this is just because there was a gas leak on their street.

[00:17:32] [SPEAKER_04]: I never thought for one second that those two got together.

[00:17:38] [SPEAKER_08]: Not at all. No.

[00:17:41] [SPEAKER_04]: OK. That's not at all.

[00:17:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Not for one moment because I like the fact that they were always friends,

[00:17:50] [SPEAKER_04]: you know? Yeah.

[00:17:51] [SPEAKER_08]: And I'm happy they never got together.

[00:17:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Right. Well, and I love the fact that they never played around with any of that.

[00:18:01] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm I wouldn't say they never played around with it.

[00:18:05] [SPEAKER_08]: No, I mean that the banter stuff in the beginning.

[00:18:10] [SPEAKER_08]: They do a good job of making you believe that Ted and Rebecca

[00:18:13] [SPEAKER_08]: are talking to each other on banter early on.

[00:18:16] [SPEAKER_08]: So they've played with it.

[00:18:18] [SPEAKER_04]: But that's because we're conditioned to feel that way.

[00:18:21] [SPEAKER_04]: But it was never that way.

[00:18:23] [SPEAKER_08]: That's not I'm not saying it was not it was not never that way.

[00:18:27] [SPEAKER_08]: But you said they I like that they never played with it.

[00:18:30] [SPEAKER_08]: They definitely played with it.

[00:18:32] [SPEAKER_08]: There were there were times they were playing with the idea that maybe

[00:18:37] [SPEAKER_08]: Ted and Rebecca are talking or getting together,

[00:18:41] [SPEAKER_08]: or there's more to this than just coach and owner.

[00:18:44] [SPEAKER_08]: They definitely played with it.

[00:18:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Hmm. I don't feel that way, but that's OK.

[00:18:51] [SPEAKER_08]: We've talked about this the whole banter thing when Rebecca was

[00:18:55] [SPEAKER_04]: talking to them. You're saying, but I think you're missing my point.

[00:18:58] [SPEAKER_08]: Now, I'm not your point.

[00:19:00] [SPEAKER_08]: You're you're saying that you you are glad that there was never anything there.

[00:19:05] [SPEAKER_08]: And I agree with you.

[00:19:06] [SPEAKER_08]: But you also your wording was that they never played with it.

[00:19:11] [SPEAKER_08]: They definitely played with it.

[00:19:13] [SPEAKER_04]: Ted and Rebecca never played around with any type of relationship.

[00:19:20] [SPEAKER_04]: They they never played around with that type of relationship,

[00:19:24] [SPEAKER_04]: not to mention that it was just assumptions on the on the viewers part.

[00:19:30] [SPEAKER_08]: See, I'm looking at this when you said they I'm thinking the writers.

[00:19:35] [SPEAKER_08]: You saying they is in Ted Rebecca themselves.

[00:19:39] [SPEAKER_04]: I well, I don't.

[00:19:42] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think that it was.

[00:19:45] [SPEAKER_04]: I think that maybe we make assumptions

[00:19:48] [SPEAKER_04]: depending on typical TV tropes.

[00:19:53] [SPEAKER_04]: And so they like, I mean, Lasso has been playing with typical TV tropes

[00:19:58] [SPEAKER_04]: throughout the entire series, right?

[00:20:01] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, the whole romcom episode, Jesus,

[00:20:04] [SPEAKER_04]: that was just one trope after another that was meaningless and stupid.

[00:20:09] [SPEAKER_04]: So, you know, tell us how you really feel about that.

[00:20:12] [SPEAKER_04]: I thought he did.

[00:20:16] [SPEAKER_04]: It's OK, I mainly say that just to get all those romcom fans out there

[00:20:20] [SPEAKER_04]: rolling their eyes as far back into their head as they can.

[00:20:24] [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, seriously, I think like Greg's eyes just hit the back of his head.

[00:20:28] [SPEAKER_08]: They roll so hard.

[00:20:29] [SPEAKER_08]: That's OK by your by your covers.

[00:20:32] [SPEAKER_04]: That is OK.

[00:20:34] [SPEAKER_08]: About this.

[00:20:36] [SPEAKER_08]: Because I think if I remember correctly, I think Greg loved that episode.

[00:20:40] [SPEAKER_08]: I might be wrong.

[00:20:42] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm OK. Oh, then I'm not wrong on that one.

[00:20:46] [SPEAKER_08]: But yeah, you know, they we get that moment and it's,

[00:20:49] [SPEAKER_08]: you know, they're in the kitchen together.

[00:20:51] [SPEAKER_08]: That poor housekeeper.

[00:20:56] [SPEAKER_04]: I like it that she starts in the guestrooms and beard and chain are like,

[00:21:00] [SPEAKER_08]: no, no, no, no, no, no, no, those ropes aren't garbage.

[00:21:06] [SPEAKER_08]: I love that like beard and changes have that kind of crazy there.

[00:21:10] [SPEAKER_08]: It doesn't matter where they go.

[00:21:13] [SPEAKER_08]: They're going to be them like even in somebody's guestroom.

[00:21:18] [SPEAKER_08]: The ropes and other items are coming with them, which means that they travel with them.

[00:21:26] [SPEAKER_08]: Well, I'm sure they packed a bag.

[00:21:28] [SPEAKER_04]: That's what I'm saying.

[00:21:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, travel with them.

[00:21:31] [SPEAKER_04]: They're like, oh, can't forget the ropes.

[00:21:33] [SPEAKER_04]: We're in an emergency gas leak situation.

[00:21:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Get those ropes. Get the ropes.

[00:21:38] [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, and I can't even imagine what other things they brought with them

[00:21:41] [SPEAKER_08]: in addition to those ropes.

[00:21:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, what was exactly the most important thing to beard and chain?

[00:21:48] [SPEAKER_08]: Books and rope.

[00:21:51] [SPEAKER_08]: Maybe some axes. I don't know.

[00:21:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, he doesn't go anywhere without his axes.

[00:21:56] [SPEAKER_08]: What's I mean?

[00:21:57] [SPEAKER_04]: All 17 of those axes were in that room for sure.

[00:22:02] [SPEAKER_08]: But you know, this scene kind of sets up a nice little setting of like,

[00:22:05] [SPEAKER_08]: this is a, you know, a situation.

[00:22:08] [SPEAKER_08]: This is the first time all four of them have been in Rebecca's house.

[00:22:11] [SPEAKER_08]: And it's the first time Rebecca is refusing to talk about the fact that Ted is going home.

[00:22:16] [SPEAKER_08]: Ted and Beard are going home.

[00:22:18] [SPEAKER_08]: They're both leaving, you know, which leads us into the next scene of this,

[00:22:23] [SPEAKER_08]: which is the locker room court, which is just a great scene altogether.

[00:22:30] [SPEAKER_08]: And can I just say, Macadoo wearing tracksuit,

[00:22:35] [SPEAKER_08]: judgey robes is just brilliant and totally Isaac.

[00:22:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, how many tracksuits do you think he has?

[00:22:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Because I mean, he's in, he's I think he's in them almost exclusively.

[00:22:48] [SPEAKER_08]: I think so. Yeah.

[00:22:49] [SPEAKER_08]: I think that's all he wears.

[00:22:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:22:51] [SPEAKER_08]: Throughout almost the entire, almost every time you see him

[00:22:54] [SPEAKER_08]: through this entire series, if he's not in a tracksuit or a uniform,

[00:22:58] [SPEAKER_08]: like that's he's in one of those two things for 95 percent of the series.

[00:23:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Unless he has to wear a suit.

[00:23:04] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, like if he's at like Sam's restaurant or a funeral.

[00:23:08] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, like he's he's in something different.

[00:23:11] [SPEAKER_04]: But if he would have been awesome, it would have been awesome

[00:23:14] [SPEAKER_04]: if he had a fancy like Tuxedo tracksuit.

[00:23:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, that would have really made me happy.

[00:23:21] [SPEAKER_08]: It's, you know, it just but seeing those judge robes

[00:23:26] [SPEAKER_08]: in a tracksuit was just fantastic.

[00:23:31] [SPEAKER_08]: But I love this courtroom scene, too, because like we're seeing the team together.

[00:23:35] [SPEAKER_08]: We're seeing them cohesive and the reading of the fines

[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_08]: is just absolutely brilliant.

[00:23:42] [SPEAKER_08]: You know, Danny O's money.

[00:23:46] [SPEAKER_08]: This column, I think Colin is the first one, right?

[00:23:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Uh huh. Yes.

[00:23:51] [SPEAKER_08]: I think Colin owes 200 pounds.

[00:23:53] [SPEAKER_08]: Danny owes 100 pounds for not wishing another team member a happy birthday.

[00:23:57] [SPEAKER_04]: They put a heart over somebody else's.

[00:23:59] [SPEAKER_04]: That's stupid. No, that doesn't even count a little bit.

[00:24:01] [SPEAKER_04]: So.

[00:24:04] [SPEAKER_08]: And then Jamie is 200 pounds.

[00:24:08] [SPEAKER_08]: Jamie owes 200 pounds for falling asleep during meditation.

[00:24:12] [SPEAKER_04]: I love his answer.

[00:24:13] [SPEAKER_04]: He's like he goes, everybody fall asleep.

[00:24:16] [SPEAKER_04]: I was just the only one that snored.

[00:24:18] [SPEAKER_08]: Yep.

[00:24:19] [SPEAKER_08]: But that leads us to another great callback from season one.

[00:24:24] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes. And it's Jamie.

[00:24:26] [SPEAKER_08]: It's Jamie putting money in the box and it's, you know, the last time this happened,

[00:24:31] [SPEAKER_08]: Nate brought the box up to Jamie and Jamie didn't put money in the box.

[00:24:35] [SPEAKER_08]: He put his gum in the box, which was just respectful.

[00:24:38] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, which just completely disrespectful to Nate

[00:24:41] [SPEAKER_08]: because this was a box that Nate created.

[00:24:44] [SPEAKER_08]: It's another box that Nate created, but not only is Jamie putting money in the box,

[00:24:48] [SPEAKER_08]: he puts extra in the box and just gives Nate a wink.

[00:24:53] [SPEAKER_08]: Like this is for what I did last time.

[00:24:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Did you also notice because I didn't notice

[00:25:01] [SPEAKER_04]: I read this in the in the article of Easter eggs,

[00:25:06] [SPEAKER_04]: but Jamie's hat has changed.

[00:25:09] [SPEAKER_04]: It has.

[00:25:11] [SPEAKER_04]: It went from icon to I cog,

[00:25:14] [SPEAKER_04]: meaning he has accepted the fact that he is a teammate.

[00:25:18] [SPEAKER_04]: He is a car in the machine.

[00:25:21] [SPEAKER_08]: I didn't notice that.

[00:25:23] [SPEAKER_04]: I didn't notice it either.

[00:25:24] [SPEAKER_04]: And I'm so mad.

[00:25:25] [SPEAKER_04]: It's mainly because I tried to look at that hat.

[00:25:28] [SPEAKER_08]: I know you hate that hat.

[00:25:29] [SPEAKER_04]: I hate that hat.

[00:25:30] [SPEAKER_04]: So the fact that he changed it made my heart very happy.

[00:25:33] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm so regretting ordering you that hat.

[00:25:36] [SPEAKER_04]: You better not have.

[00:25:38] [SPEAKER_04]: He'll send it right back to you.

[00:25:40] [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, no.

[00:25:41] [SPEAKER_08]: If there was anything I would have ordered it and wore it during recording

[00:25:44] [SPEAKER_08]: and just never told you I was wearing it with a bad hair wig.

[00:25:50] [SPEAKER_04]: By the way, Jamie's hair is great in the final scene with his dad.

[00:25:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I finally loved Jamie's hair.

[00:25:57] [SPEAKER_04]: I actually had that in my notes.

[00:25:58] [SPEAKER_04]: I was like, finally, the guy learns how to comb his effing hair.

[00:26:04] [SPEAKER_08]: His hair went through rehab like his father.

[00:26:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Good.

[00:26:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, and came out better like his father.

[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Did you see his father looking at him just so proud and happy?

[00:26:15] [SPEAKER_08]: I have that in my notes, too, is during that whole final scene

[00:26:18] [SPEAKER_08]: when Jamie and his father are looking through pictures.

[00:26:22] [SPEAKER_08]: Jamie is looking.

[00:26:23] [SPEAKER_08]: There are so many subtle little things in this episode

[00:26:26] [SPEAKER_08]: that I didn't notice until this time around.

[00:26:29] [SPEAKER_08]: But you're right.

[00:26:30] [SPEAKER_08]: Jamie is looking through these pictures, but his father is looking at Jamie.

[00:26:35] [SPEAKER_08]: Like he is just staring at Jamie with like a smile.

[00:26:39] [SPEAKER_08]: He has his son back.

[00:26:41] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:26:41] [SPEAKER_08]: And Jamie has his father back.

[00:26:44] [SPEAKER_08]: Like it is such a.

[00:26:45] [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, God, the emotions are already starting to come.

[00:26:48] [SPEAKER_08]: They like that's a healed, fractured relationship.

[00:26:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Inlaid with gold.

[00:26:55] [SPEAKER_08]: Yes, which we will talk about as well.

[00:26:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

[00:27:00] [SPEAKER_08]: But that whole the whole locker room court

[00:27:02] [SPEAKER_08]: and Nate owes like five thousand pounds.

[00:27:05] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, and I like it that he goes, that's fair.

[00:27:08] [SPEAKER_04]: That's fair.

[00:27:09] [SPEAKER_04]: He got millions, millions from being with from being at West Ham.

[00:27:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:27:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Give the five thousand pounds and everything's forgiven.

[00:27:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Cool.

[00:27:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Ten.

[00:27:22] [SPEAKER_08]: Exactly.

[00:27:23] [SPEAKER_08]: And I love that, like after that happens, after the fine,

[00:27:26] [SPEAKER_08]: that's when Sam comes out and he's like, oh, now we're going to have

[00:27:29] [SPEAKER_08]: an open bar at this party.

[00:27:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you, Nate.

[00:27:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Open bar.

[00:27:34] [SPEAKER_04]: I want to go to Sam's restaurant so bad.

[00:27:39] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't even I don't even know if I will like African food

[00:27:42] [SPEAKER_08]: or Nigerian food, but I will try it at Sam's restaurant.

[00:27:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Any African food ever?

[00:27:48] [SPEAKER_08]: No.

[00:27:49] [SPEAKER_04]: So I mean, I've been to Africa, but and I've been I've been to South Africa.

[00:27:54] [SPEAKER_04]: I've been in Mozambique.

[00:27:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Food is very different in each country and in each demographic that you go

[00:28:00] [SPEAKER_08]: to different cultures between two different countries.

[00:28:04] [SPEAKER_04]: But I was also in two very different situations.

[00:28:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Mozambique, I was in the bush, living in tents with village with villagers.

[00:28:12] [SPEAKER_04]: And then in South Africa, I was staying at Kruger National Park

[00:28:17] [SPEAKER_04]: and, you know, going on a night safari and a jeep in eating food

[00:28:21] [SPEAKER_04]: that came from a hotel.

[00:28:22] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, so it was like two very different experiences.

[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_04]: But when I was in when I lived in San Francisco,

[00:28:30] [SPEAKER_04]: I got super into Ethiopian food

[00:28:34] [SPEAKER_04]: and it was delicious.

[00:28:37] [SPEAKER_04]: So I would love to try Nigerian food.

[00:28:40] [SPEAKER_04]: I would love to try cuisine from every country that doesn't have olives in it.

[00:28:45] [SPEAKER_04]: So it is out.

[00:28:47] [SPEAKER_08]: Well, it's funny that you say Greek, too, because I actually just had a

[00:28:49] [SPEAKER_08]: conversation with about this with a friend of mine

[00:28:52] [SPEAKER_08]: in that she just went to she was talking about a Greek restaurant

[00:28:56] [SPEAKER_08]: that she just went to.

[00:28:57] [SPEAKER_08]: And I had told her, like, I've never had Greek food.

[00:29:00] [SPEAKER_08]: And it's funny how when you the older you get,

[00:29:04] [SPEAKER_08]: like your palate changes a couple of times throughout your lifetime.

[00:29:09] [SPEAKER_08]: And like the older that I get, the more interested I am in trying new things.

[00:29:13] [SPEAKER_08]: So like I I'm somebody who just within the past year

[00:29:17] [SPEAKER_08]: tried Indian food for the first time.

[00:29:19] [SPEAKER_04]: And you loved it.

[00:29:20] [SPEAKER_08]: I loved it.

[00:29:21] [SPEAKER_08]: Like it was so good.

[00:29:23] [SPEAKER_08]: I've had it a couple of times since, as a matter of fact.

[00:29:25] [SPEAKER_08]: So when I was having this conversation, I'm like, I've never had Greek food.

[00:29:29] [SPEAKER_08]: But you know what? I'll try it.

[00:29:30] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't like olives either.

[00:29:32] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm sure there's stuff on the menu without olives.

[00:29:35] [SPEAKER_05]: I care.

[00:29:37] [SPEAKER_08]: But but I'll try it.

[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_08]: And the same thing with African or Ethiopian or Nigerian food,

[00:29:41] [SPEAKER_08]: like I I'll try it.

[00:29:43] [SPEAKER_08]: Like I I'm at that point in my life with my palate.

[00:29:46] [SPEAKER_08]: I'll try pretty much anything.

[00:29:48] [SPEAKER_04]: That's awesome.

[00:29:49] [SPEAKER_04]: And, you know, usually I am the same way I have just had.

[00:29:53] [SPEAKER_04]: I've had Greek food a number of times.

[00:29:55] [SPEAKER_04]: And unless it is a euro, I'm not eating it.

[00:29:58] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't like parsley.

[00:29:59] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't like olives and excess amounts of olive oil really upset my stomach.

[00:30:06] [SPEAKER_04]: So it's just a cuisine that I stay away from.

[00:30:09] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm and I get and I get that I'm Italian so like I could drink olive oil.

[00:30:14] [SPEAKER_08]: You know, I'm

[00:30:17] [SPEAKER_08]: my my the foods that I have tried since

[00:30:21] [SPEAKER_08]: there are certain things usually on your palate that never change.

[00:30:24] [SPEAKER_08]: And mine is vinegar.

[00:30:26] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't like vinegar.

[00:30:29] [SPEAKER_04]: So you don't like any vinegar?

[00:30:31] [SPEAKER_08]: No, I don't like any kind.

[00:30:33] [SPEAKER_08]: Don't like balsamic.

[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't like red wine vinegar.

[00:30:35] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't like any so condiments like mustard and ketchup.

[00:30:39] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't eat because they contain vinegar.

[00:30:41] [SPEAKER_08]: There's a certain kind of barbecue sauces that I like taste very odd to me

[00:30:47] [SPEAKER_08]: because they are vinegar based barbecue sauces.

[00:30:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's North Carolina barbecue.

[00:30:52] [SPEAKER_04]: It's disgusting.

[00:30:53] [SPEAKER_08]: And I love barbecue.

[00:30:55] [SPEAKER_08]: But yeah, like Carolina barbecue, I just I can't eat because I don't like.

[00:31:00] [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, to a degree, almost every barbecue sauce has vinegar in it.

[00:31:03] [SPEAKER_08]: But it's the matter of the other ingredients.

[00:31:06] [SPEAKER_04]: No, no, no, no.

[00:31:07] [SPEAKER_04]: I as somebody who has lived all over this country

[00:31:10] [SPEAKER_04]: and has a deep love for regional barbecue in this country,

[00:31:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Carolina barbecue is disgusting.

[00:31:17] [SPEAKER_04]: And Mississippi barbecue is the best.

[00:31:21] [SPEAKER_04]: I will. No, no, no.

[00:31:23] [SPEAKER_04]: I will hold on.

[00:31:24] [SPEAKER_08]: I will. No, no, I will.

[00:31:28] [SPEAKER_08]: Well, in this house, I am not going to agree or disagree

[00:31:31] [SPEAKER_08]: that it's the best because I've never had Mississippi barbecue.

[00:31:34] [SPEAKER_08]: However, since we are talking about Ted Lasso,

[00:31:36] [SPEAKER_08]: I will say one thing I agree with Ted, Kansas City barbecue is amazing.

[00:31:42] [SPEAKER_04]: There's St. Louis style.

[00:31:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes. And there's. Yeah.

[00:31:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Look, all I have to tell you is that in Mississippi,

[00:31:49] [SPEAKER_04]: if you've been to Mississippi, if you've been down to the shed barbecue

[00:31:54] [SPEAKER_04]: in Ocean Springs, Mississippi,

[00:31:57] [SPEAKER_04]: holy shit, is that the best barbecue I have ever had in my life.

[00:32:02] [SPEAKER_04]: And I have made it my job to find the best barbecue barbecue and beer.

[00:32:08] [SPEAKER_04]: That's what my husband and I got very into because like when you

[00:32:11] [SPEAKER_04]: when he's in the military and we're traveling all over the country,

[00:32:14] [SPEAKER_04]: living in these weird spots like what else are we going to do?

[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. Well, I mean, so like for example,

[00:32:21] [SPEAKER_08]: like I am going to this coming weekend, I'm traveling the Colorado Springs,

[00:32:26] [SPEAKER_08]: but both on my way there and on my way home, I have layovers in Chicago.

[00:32:33] [SPEAKER_08]: Now, I know he's listening

[00:32:34] [SPEAKER_08]: and on the day we are recording this is it is actually his birthday.

[00:32:38] [SPEAKER_08]: So happy birthday, Steve Brown.

[00:32:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Steve Brown, I was going to say that later.

[00:32:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Happy birthday, Steve Brown beat me.

[00:32:45] [SPEAKER_08]: But Steve, no, no, you didn't.

[00:32:47] [SPEAKER_08]: I just said it. I knew it.

[00:32:50] [SPEAKER_08]: I know. But you just said you beat me to it.

[00:32:53] [SPEAKER_08]: And I already said he beat me. Oh, he beat me. Sorry.

[00:32:56] [SPEAKER_04]: He's not listening. People do you hear that?

[00:33:01] [SPEAKER_08]: Sorry. He and I have this debate online

[00:33:04] [SPEAKER_08]: and I will die on this hill.

[00:33:05] [SPEAKER_08]: The Chicago style pizza is not fucking pizza. I'm sorry.

[00:33:09] [SPEAKER_08]: It's casserole.

[00:33:11] [SPEAKER_08]: But I would also be interested in trying some local

[00:33:15] [SPEAKER_08]: Chicago cuisine during my layovers,

[00:33:18] [SPEAKER_08]: even though I don't have a lot of time to leave the airport.

[00:33:20] [SPEAKER_08]: But I know there are some places in the airport that serve

[00:33:23] [SPEAKER_08]: Chicago style food now on my way there.

[00:33:26] [SPEAKER_08]: It'll still be early morning.

[00:33:29] [SPEAKER_08]: So I like I can't try anything

[00:33:31] [SPEAKER_08]: like savory or like like lunch or dinner wise.

[00:33:37] [SPEAKER_08]: But on my way home, my layover is in the afternoon.

[00:33:41] [SPEAKER_08]: So I will definitely find a place to stop

[00:33:43] [SPEAKER_08]: and get something to eat on my way home.

[00:33:46] [SPEAKER_08]: It sucks because my layover there is four hours.

[00:33:49] [SPEAKER_08]: But my layover home is only an hour and a half.

[00:33:53] [SPEAKER_08]: I hate that.

[00:33:54] [SPEAKER_04]: So so I have a friend who is from Chicago

[00:33:59] [SPEAKER_04]: who tells me that deep dish Chicago pizza is not Chicago pizza.

[00:34:04] [SPEAKER_04]: That Chicago pizza is the crust pizza and it's delicious

[00:34:08] [SPEAKER_04]: and is better than New York pizza.

[00:34:10] [SPEAKER_04]: And she will die on that hill. OK.

[00:34:13] [SPEAKER_08]: So agree that it is delicious.

[00:34:17] [SPEAKER_08]: Disagree that it is better than New York style pizza.

[00:34:21] [SPEAKER_08]: No, I'm sorry.

[00:34:22] [SPEAKER_08]: With you. New York style pizza.

[00:34:25] [SPEAKER_08]: I apologize to anybody listening.

[00:34:28] [SPEAKER_08]: New York style pizza is the best pizza in the country.

[00:34:32] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't care what anybody says.

[00:34:33] [SPEAKER_08]: Not taking away from thin crust from Chicago thin crust or,

[00:34:38] [SPEAKER_08]: you know, like Jersey Shore style pizza or anything.

[00:34:41] [SPEAKER_08]: But man, there is nothing better than a New York slice

[00:34:45] [SPEAKER_08]: when you are going up to that area.

[00:34:48] [SPEAKER_08]: It's just it's Detroit style is great.

[00:34:51] [SPEAKER_08]: Chicago style thin crust is great.

[00:34:53] [SPEAKER_08]: There is nothing better than a New York slice.

[00:34:56] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't care what anybody says.

[00:34:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I'm partial to San Francisco pizza.

[00:35:00] [SPEAKER_08]: But never have so I can't believe, you know,

[00:35:03] [SPEAKER_08]: but Chicago style deep dish can die in a hole.

[00:35:09] [SPEAKER_08]: Let's get back to Ted Lasso and back to that lasso.

[00:35:15] [SPEAKER_08]: You know, but moving forward with the

[00:35:18] [SPEAKER_08]: with the episode, the next thing we get is

[00:35:21] [SPEAKER_08]: trans presenting a rough draft of his book.

[00:35:25] [SPEAKER_08]: And it is called the lasso way

[00:35:27] [SPEAKER_08]: and he is giving and meaning he says like it's obviously it's unfinished

[00:35:31] [SPEAKER_08]: because I can't finish it until the season ends.

[00:35:33] [SPEAKER_08]: But this is what I have so far.

[00:35:35] [SPEAKER_08]: And he gives a copy to Ted and Beard

[00:35:38] [SPEAKER_08]: and he really wants their opinion on it.

[00:35:40] [SPEAKER_04]: And it just I love he's so wracked with

[00:35:45] [SPEAKER_04]: anxiety over you laugh until page 47.

[00:35:51] [SPEAKER_04]: He's just like he's wracked over the whole.

[00:35:55] [SPEAKER_08]: Well, not even before we get to that point,

[00:35:58] [SPEAKER_08]: we've got beer just going through it with a red pen.

[00:36:01] [SPEAKER_08]: Automatically derivative,

[00:36:04] [SPEAKER_08]: overly prosaic and Trent just he's

[00:36:07] [SPEAKER_08]: he's having such a hard time hearing this criticism

[00:36:10] [SPEAKER_08]: that so much of that he has to leave the room.

[00:36:13] [SPEAKER_08]: Like he just takes his stuff and leaves the office.

[00:36:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but he lingers in at his desk.

[00:36:20] [SPEAKER_04]: And you can see him.

[00:36:21] [SPEAKER_04]: He's just watching Ted read the book

[00:36:23] [SPEAKER_04]: and it's obviously very late like everybody else is gone home.

[00:36:27] [SPEAKER_04]: And and Trent's just obviously pretending to work.

[00:36:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, he's waiting for Ted to have any reaction.

[00:36:35] [SPEAKER_04]: And it's very strange because Ted spends most of this episode

[00:36:40] [SPEAKER_04]: really, really devoid of emotion.

[00:36:44] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[00:36:46] [SPEAKER_04]: And so it is it's unlike him to be so subdued

[00:36:51] [SPEAKER_04]: while reading the book because he's so supportive

[00:36:55] [SPEAKER_04]: and he's so like, oh, that's great.

[00:36:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, you're great. Everybody's great. I'm great.

[00:37:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Let's all be great, you know?

[00:37:02] [SPEAKER_04]: And he's just very introspective and subdued

[00:37:06] [SPEAKER_04]: and silent and very not Ted.

[00:37:09] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I'm so glad you said that too, because like I noticed

[00:37:13] [SPEAKER_08]: I picked up on that watching this episode as well.

[00:37:15] [SPEAKER_08]: And this is kind of going back to jumping around a little bit too.

[00:37:18] [SPEAKER_08]: But the scene that really stands out to me where we see Ted is not Ted.

[00:37:22] [SPEAKER_08]: Like he is clearly in his head and not what not in his head.

[00:37:27] [SPEAKER_08]: Like he's he's freaking out.

[00:37:28] [SPEAKER_08]: He's in his head because he's processing like his life is about to change again.

[00:37:34] [SPEAKER_08]: And I think there's a part of Ted that's kind of like

[00:37:37] [SPEAKER_08]: his decision is made.

[00:37:39] [SPEAKER_08]: He knows what he's going to do, but he's still in his head

[00:37:42] [SPEAKER_08]: as in like, is this for the better?

[00:37:44] [SPEAKER_08]: Am I making the right decision?

[00:37:46] [SPEAKER_08]: And because that even comes up in the conversation with Beard

[00:37:50] [SPEAKER_08]: and Ted and on the plane, like am I doing the right thing?

[00:37:53] [SPEAKER_08]: You know, we almost had this.

[00:37:55] [SPEAKER_08]: We're so close, like should I be leaving?

[00:37:57] [SPEAKER_08]: But the scene that stands out to me where I really notice

[00:38:01] [SPEAKER_08]: Ted is not Ted is Ted and Rebecca in The Bleachers.

[00:38:06] [SPEAKER_08]: Because Ted always makes he always reciprocates conversation.

[00:38:12] [SPEAKER_08]: He always makes it a point to talk back to respond.

[00:38:15] [SPEAKER_08]: And in this scene, this scene is mostly Rebecca.

[00:38:20] [SPEAKER_08]: It's not until the end where she says, like, you've already made your decision

[00:38:24] [SPEAKER_08]: that he finally speaks.

[00:38:26] [SPEAKER_08]: The whole first half of the scene is just Rebecca talking to Ted.

[00:38:30] [SPEAKER_08]: He doesn't respond.

[00:38:32] [SPEAKER_04]: I think Ted is afraid that if he talks, he will be talking.

[00:38:37] [SPEAKER_04]: He'll change his mind.

[00:38:39] [SPEAKER_04]: He's just saying, yeah.

[00:38:40] [SPEAKER_04]: And he needs to stay resolute.

[00:38:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Ted's a people pleaser.

[00:38:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Ted wants everybody around him to feel happy, uplifted and secure.

[00:38:48] [SPEAKER_04]: And the decision that he's making is the exact opposite of what Ted does

[00:38:55] [SPEAKER_04]: as a person, as a man.

[00:38:57] [SPEAKER_04]: And I think this is I think at the end of the day, excuse me, hold on.

[00:39:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Holy cow. Sorry.

[00:39:07] [SPEAKER_04]: I think at the end of the day for the character, Ted Lasso,

[00:39:11] [SPEAKER_04]: this will go down as the hardest decision he ever made in his life,

[00:39:15] [SPEAKER_04]: especially with the fact that Rebecca's like, Michelle and Henry can come here.

[00:39:21] [SPEAKER_04]: I will set them up with whatever will keep you here.

[00:39:26] [SPEAKER_04]: I will make you the highest paid coach in history.

[00:39:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Just stay whatever you want.

[00:39:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Just stay and his absolute resoluteness to go home

[00:39:39] [SPEAKER_04]: despite everything that he's built for himself,

[00:39:43] [SPEAKER_04]: despite the home that he's made for himself,

[00:39:46] [SPEAKER_04]: despite the comfort that he is in in Richmond.

[00:39:49] [SPEAKER_04]: He is going to go home and fix his life, his personal life.

[00:39:54] [SPEAKER_04]: He's going to go be with his son and he's going to get back together

[00:39:57] [SPEAKER_04]: with his wife because we all know that they got back together.

[00:40:00] [SPEAKER_04]: But that's not a shared note there.

[00:40:03] [SPEAKER_08]: No, you're absolutely right.

[00:40:05] [SPEAKER_08]: And I think you hit the nail on the head, too, in that one of the reasons

[00:40:08] [SPEAKER_08]: why he's not speaking is because everything that you just mentioned

[00:40:12] [SPEAKER_08]: about what Rebecca said, bringing Michelle and Henry over,

[00:40:15] [SPEAKER_08]: letting Michelle go back to school.

[00:40:17] [SPEAKER_08]: Henry can go to the best schools.

[00:40:19] [SPEAKER_08]: Ted can become the highest paid coach.

[00:40:20] [SPEAKER_08]: These are a lot of temptations to keep Ted where he is.

[00:40:25] [SPEAKER_08]: And I was just going to say the same thing.

[00:40:27] [SPEAKER_08]: If I were in Ted's shoes, then like to me, that would have been

[00:40:31] [SPEAKER_08]: the best of both worlds.

[00:40:33] [SPEAKER_08]: Like why would I not say yes to this?

[00:40:36] [SPEAKER_08]: I'd become a hugely like a high paid coach.

[00:40:39] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm already like I finally earned the respect of the fans and the press

[00:40:44] [SPEAKER_08]: and the players like and now to have the people I love that I've been

[00:40:49] [SPEAKER_08]: separated from here, too.

[00:40:51] [SPEAKER_08]: But I think, you know, that just shows Ted's character in that.

[00:40:56] [SPEAKER_08]: To say yes to that and bring Henry and Michelle over is selfish.

[00:41:01] [SPEAKER_08]: It's selfish for Ted.

[00:41:03] [SPEAKER_08]: He's like to pull them from their world is selfish for him.

[00:41:09] [SPEAKER_08]: He needs to go back to their world.

[00:41:12] [SPEAKER_04]: I understand that and I agree with you, but the

[00:41:17] [SPEAKER_04]: the abomination that has become the public education system

[00:41:22] [SPEAKER_04]: would be very tempting for me to take my son to an English

[00:41:27] [SPEAKER_04]: top rated English school.

[00:41:29] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, that alone would would probably tip the scale for me.

[00:41:36] [SPEAKER_04]: But I understand.

[00:41:37] [SPEAKER_04]: But with that aside, Ted doesn't need to just go home for Henry

[00:41:43] [SPEAKER_04]: and Michelle.

[00:41:44] [SPEAKER_04]: He used to go home to know that he can go home.

[00:41:47] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[00:41:47] [SPEAKER_04]: He needs to go home and face his mom and face the people around him.

[00:41:50] [SPEAKER_04]: He needs to go home and kick Dr.

[00:41:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Jacob out of out of his life, which I think Michelle has already done.

[00:41:56] [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, put the final stamp on it.

[00:41:58] [SPEAKER_04]: You know what I'm saying?

[00:41:59] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, there's I mean, and you're right because like even going back

[00:42:03] [SPEAKER_08]: to that opening scene in Rebecca's house, Rebecca is the one that says like,

[00:42:08] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm not I'm not having trouble realizing you're going home.

[00:42:11] [SPEAKER_08]: It's realizing you're never coming back.

[00:42:14] [SPEAKER_08]: Ted has already decided this decision is permanent.

[00:42:18] [SPEAKER_08]: He's not going home temporarily to fix things and then coming back

[00:42:21] [SPEAKER_08]: to Richmond, he's going home to stay.

[00:42:24] [SPEAKER_08]: You know, and it's and that is the realization that Rebecca

[00:42:27] [SPEAKER_08]: is having a hard time coming to and, you know, but again,

[00:42:31] [SPEAKER_08]: going back to the selfishness of it all, like he doesn't want to pull Henry.

[00:42:35] [SPEAKER_08]: Henry has friends like, yes, Henry, like Ted and Michelle

[00:42:39] [SPEAKER_08]: will probably understand this is a better education.

[00:42:42] [SPEAKER_08]: This is a better environment for Henry.

[00:42:44] [SPEAKER_08]: Henry doesn't get that.

[00:42:45] [SPEAKER_08]: You know, Henry will probably look at it as in like you're taking me away

[00:42:48] [SPEAKER_08]: from my like I'm going to miss my friends.

[00:42:51] [SPEAKER_08]: And, you know, that's something important to a kid that age.

[00:42:55] [SPEAKER_04]: I would agree with that.

[00:42:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:42:57] [SPEAKER_08]: You know, and he doesn't want to do that to Henry.

[00:42:59] [SPEAKER_08]: He's Henry has already lost enough in losing his father for three years.

[00:43:04] [SPEAKER_08]: He doesn't want Henry to lose anything else.

[00:43:07] [SPEAKER_04]: It was so sweet the way he was just waiting at the front window.

[00:43:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I bet you he was there all day.

[00:43:13] [SPEAKER_08]: He knew dad was coming home.

[00:43:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. You know, I knew dad was coming home.

[00:43:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Dad wasn't just coming back to Kansas and going to an apartment

[00:43:22] [SPEAKER_04]: or a hotel. Dad was coming home.

[00:43:24] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, exactly.

[00:43:27] [SPEAKER_08]: And yeah, it's just but, you know, going back to the earlier point in that.

[00:43:31] [SPEAKER_08]: I did notice that Ted was not being Ted.

[00:43:35] [SPEAKER_04]: It was very strange.

[00:43:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's not Ted be it's not Ted because Ted is always Ted.

[00:43:41] [SPEAKER_08]: You know, the locker room how he is as a coach like that was him.

[00:43:45] [SPEAKER_08]: But when Ted, but when it came to Ted himself, Ted was just not being Ted.

[00:43:50] [SPEAKER_08]: And that bleachers scene is really the scene that I I noticed it.

[00:43:56] [SPEAKER_08]: And I love the fact that that scene also pays tribute to the to literally

[00:44:00] [SPEAKER_08]: the opening of this of the show.

[00:44:04] [SPEAKER_08]: The opening of the show is Ted sitting in the bleachers.

[00:44:08] [SPEAKER_08]: And this time now it's with Rebecca.

[00:44:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. Yeah, you're right.

[00:44:14] [SPEAKER_04]: That's a very, very sweet scene.

[00:44:16] [SPEAKER_04]: I think where I noticed it the most was when the team performed for him,

[00:44:23] [SPEAKER_04]: for him, for them. Let's talk about that.

[00:44:27] [SPEAKER_04]: First of all, the fact that Danny played the youngest Von Trapp was perfect.

[00:44:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Perfect. Good job, everybody way to go.

[00:44:37] [SPEAKER_04]: But if we're just but, you know, just staying on Ted for a minute,

[00:44:41] [SPEAKER_04]: you know, Ted was very interesting to me that Ted was as.

[00:44:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Quiet as he was after they performed, you know, like for I'm sure

[00:44:52] [SPEAKER_04]: he was overwhelmed with emotion, but he was like, thanks guys, that was perfect.

[00:44:56] [SPEAKER_04]: There was no like smile during the performance.

[00:45:01] [SPEAKER_04]: There was no like animated anything.

[00:45:04] [SPEAKER_04]: It was just him hands in his pockets looking at the performance.

[00:45:09] [SPEAKER_04]: So I can see why the whole team was really like unnerved

[00:45:14] [SPEAKER_04]: because they had no idea if they did a good enough job for it.

[00:45:17] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, like everybody's just sitting there going, oh my gosh, oh my gosh,

[00:45:21] [SPEAKER_04]: oh my gosh, oh my gosh, oh my gosh.

[00:45:23] [SPEAKER_04]: And then my favorite part, my favorite part of the whole thing

[00:45:27] [SPEAKER_04]: and then I'll hand it over to you is that Trent took off his jacket

[00:45:30] [SPEAKER_04]: and started waving it around his head in circles

[00:45:36] [SPEAKER_04]: because you're just like, oh, everybody is into this.

[00:45:39] [SPEAKER_04]: All right.

[00:45:40] [SPEAKER_08]: So I just I love it in that scene.

[00:45:42] [SPEAKER_08]: Like it's, you know, Roy yells whistle and like the team stops and they're like,

[00:45:47] [SPEAKER_08]: you know, thanks.

[00:45:48] [SPEAKER_08]: We didn't want to make this a big deal.

[00:45:50] [SPEAKER_08]: Like this is our final practice.

[00:45:52] [SPEAKER_08]: And or it's like, it was like they're like, yeah, just a regular day.

[00:45:57] [SPEAKER_08]: Nothing special.

[00:45:58] [SPEAKER_08]: Roy's like, yeah, sure.

[00:46:00] [SPEAKER_08]: Whatever you guys want.

[00:46:02] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:46:03] [SPEAKER_08]: It's like, well, that was ominous.

[00:46:05] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. What the fuck was that?

[00:46:06] [SPEAKER_08]: And then they hear the music and they turn and turn around

[00:46:12] [SPEAKER_09]: and and Beards just like, what the fuck is this?

[00:46:18] [SPEAKER_08]: And we see like the whole team doing the sound of music.

[00:46:22] [SPEAKER_08]: A Julie Andrews number, which we know is Roy's favorite

[00:46:28] [SPEAKER_08]: favorite music, like favorite musical number.

[00:46:31] [SPEAKER_08]: You know, because we know that Roy loves Julie Andrews.

[00:46:34] [SPEAKER_08]: It's another call back to an earlier episode.

[00:46:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Of the show Andrews performance is sound of music.

[00:46:40] [SPEAKER_08]: Yes, because we see him singing along while he's standing next to Will,

[00:46:44] [SPEAKER_08]: who is holding the radio.

[00:46:46] [SPEAKER_04]: He's seen that with Phoebe probably a hundred times.

[00:46:50] [SPEAKER_08]: Well, so I know in the call back section, we'll cover the call backs

[00:46:54] [SPEAKER_08]: that we don't that we didn't talk about during the conversation

[00:46:56] [SPEAKER_08]: because we're bringing some of them up as we go back.

[00:46:59] [SPEAKER_08]: But Will holding the stereo above his head is also a call back

[00:47:02] [SPEAKER_08]: because early on, I think in season one, when they're doing

[00:47:05] [SPEAKER_08]: the very first musical number that they're doing, Ted is holding his phone

[00:47:10] [SPEAKER_04]: above his head and very say anything.

[00:47:13] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. So this is another another call back.

[00:47:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Was that a real stereo because it looked like a craft?

[00:47:21] [SPEAKER_08]: No, they made boom boxes like that.

[00:47:25] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm sure that was probably I'm sure that might have been a real stereo.

[00:47:29] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't know where they got it because they don't make them anymore.

[00:47:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Of course, Will has one that they don't make anymore.

[00:47:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Words probably Leslie's.

[00:47:39] [SPEAKER_08]: But I also love to you mentioned Trent like when they're all celebrating

[00:47:43] [SPEAKER_08]: and getting wild about that it was perfect and Trent takes his jacket off too.

[00:47:47] [SPEAKER_08]: But I also like the fact that even before that while they're doing

[00:47:50] [SPEAKER_08]: the musical number, there's a scene where it goes to Trent and Trent

[00:47:54] [SPEAKER_08]: just has this little smile on his face and his body is just kind of moving

[00:47:57] [SPEAKER_08]: along to the music because he's loving the hell out of him.

[00:48:01] [SPEAKER_08]: But he's like this is a lot of this too.

[00:48:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Of course he is.

[00:48:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Did you notice him look the most nervous about how Ted was going to react?

[00:48:09] [SPEAKER_04]: In my opinion, was Jan?

[00:48:12] [SPEAKER_08]: Oh no, I didn't even really pick up on it.

[00:48:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh my gosh, Jan looked like he was ready to throw up.

[00:48:17] [SPEAKER_04]: He was just like, oh gosh, I hope this was OK.

[00:48:21] [SPEAKER_08]: And one of my other favorite moments of that too is because

[00:48:24] [SPEAKER_08]: we get three different groups of players and then Danny Rojas is

[00:48:27] [SPEAKER_08]: the last one. And when Danny's out there and he leaps and he does that little leg flutter,

[00:48:33] [SPEAKER_08]: like it cracks me up every time I watch it because it's so Danny Rojas.

[00:48:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, and he looked like he really worked on it too. Like he was very concentrated in

[00:48:45] [SPEAKER_04]: it. And then he got to be like cute little, cute little youngest Von Trapp.

[00:48:49] [SPEAKER_08]: There's a, for anybody that doesn't know, you and I have watched this already, but

[00:48:53] [SPEAKER_08]: after the season and not long after the series ended, Apple put out a video on YouTube called

[00:48:58] [SPEAKER_08]: Richmond Till We Die. And it was a little collaboration of a bunch of different scenes

[00:49:05] [SPEAKER_08]: from towards the rap of the series. And one of some of the scenes in there is actually the

[00:49:10] [SPEAKER_08]: rehearsals in studio of these guys singing and how none of them really wanted to do it because

[00:49:17] [SPEAKER_08]: that meant they actually had to sing and actually had to dance. But just being so happy with

[00:49:23] [SPEAKER_08]: the way that scene turned out. It was adorable. Yeah. And a fitting goodbye, like a fitting gift

[00:49:30] [SPEAKER_08]: for Ted and Beard. Beard who is visibly shedding tears under his sunglasses. I know poor Beard.

[00:49:39] [SPEAKER_08]: Still standing there stoic, but he's got the two pinkies under his sunglasses because

[00:49:44] [SPEAKER_04]: he is wiping tears from his eyes. Beard does a lot of crying in this, in this episode.

[00:49:50] [SPEAKER_08]: The last two between that last episode and this one because he cries when he forgives Nate as well.

[00:49:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. Yeah, but he does a lot of free crying here. Yeah. Yes. Like, and if we can just

[00:50:04] [SPEAKER_04]: keep going with crying, there is that pregame video that Beard decided to play like a moron.

[00:50:13] [SPEAKER_08]: I love the moment that Beard realizes he made a mistake. He's like, oh, shit.

[00:50:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. That was a big mistake.

[00:50:25] [SPEAKER_08]: And look, the intention was good. And I love and I looked into this a little bit too. I love

[00:50:32] [SPEAKER_08]: the fact that this video is a great compilation of scenes that we've seen in the show.

[00:50:40] [SPEAKER_08]: It's scenes that we haven't seen in the show because they were filmed behind the scenes,

[00:50:44] [SPEAKER_08]: like during production. And there's also a video in there too of the guys on the water ride at an

[00:50:51] [SPEAKER_08]: amusement park because that was them hanging out in real life. That's awesome. And I love

[00:50:57] [SPEAKER_04]: it. They were hanging out in real life. It was. It was like that was the cast.

[00:51:01] [SPEAKER_08]: It looked like it. Yeah. The cast was like out having a good time and they took video

[00:51:06] [SPEAKER_08]: capture of it and they used it in the show to show that these guys weren't just a team on camera.

[00:51:13] [SPEAKER_04]: This cast was a team off camera. Yeah. It was a really special experience for everybody involved

[00:51:21] [SPEAKER_08]: in this show. Well, I talked about it before. Even Anthony Head who like plays Rupert and

[00:51:27] [SPEAKER_08]: is the villain of this series, even he said like it was just such an amazing experience

[00:51:32] [SPEAKER_08]: being a part of the series. Even as the villain, it was just an amazing experience.

[00:51:39] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm so happy that Rupert had such a bad episode. Can we talk about Rupert's downfall?

[00:51:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, because it's my favorite and I really wish that there was more. I want an extended

[00:51:52] [SPEAKER_04]: episode with more Rupert. Okay. First of all, did you notice that his trademark trench coat

[00:52:01] [SPEAKER_04]: looked like a silk robe this episode? It did flow a little freer than it usually does.

[00:52:10] [SPEAKER_04]: And the belt looked like it was a robe belt. I'm wondering if he's just so off his game

[00:52:17] [SPEAKER_04]: that he just put on a robe because he was also limping. Why was he limping?

[00:52:23] [SPEAKER_08]: I noticed the limp too. I don't know what the point of that was.

[00:52:28] [SPEAKER_08]: Was not explained at all. I wonder if maybe that was just a real life limp

[00:52:34] [SPEAKER_08]: that he had and they just couldn't, there was really no way around it in production.

[00:52:39] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it goes with kind of how his character is now broken.

[00:52:43] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, he's limping around. He can't move very well. He's wearing pajamas, I guess.

[00:52:50] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, he's crazy. He's become a crazy person at the end.

[00:52:54] [SPEAKER_04]: And I love it. And I love it that George stood up to him.

[00:52:59] [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, man. Let me tell you that whole scene because we've seen that trope before. We have seen

[00:53:05] [SPEAKER_08]: like in American football movies like take this player out, like injure this player,

[00:53:11] [SPEAKER_08]: like get him out of there and they do it. And they do it in a yeah,

[00:53:15] [SPEAKER_08]: in America and other movies. But I love the fact that George was like, I don't play that way.

[00:53:21] [SPEAKER_08]: This is a guy who has been against Richmond and its players and like and has sided with Rupert

[00:53:28] [SPEAKER_08]: time in and time out. And when Rupert tells him to do this, he's like, no,

[00:53:33] [SPEAKER_08]: like I don't. That's not how I play. Look, and then he nods at Ted.

[00:53:39] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. Like they nodded each other in like a mutual respect because he's been following their

[00:53:44] [SPEAKER_04]: he's been following the season as a commentator. He has been following that season very closely.

[00:53:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, has to have respect for what Ted has done. Anybody, anybody that loves the game like you know

[00:53:57] [SPEAKER_04]: that short shorts loves the game has to respect what miraculous thing Ted has done for Richmond

[00:54:04] [SPEAKER_08]: has to not only that, but I'll take it a step further into like this just shows that George

[00:54:09] [SPEAKER_08]: respects the game like not even just not even just Ted. George respects the game.

[00:54:18] [SPEAKER_08]: And that like that made that as much as they kind of made him a prick from start to finish.

[00:54:25] [SPEAKER_08]: That gave me a lot of respect for George in this episode.

[00:54:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Even when his nuts came out, I was like, oh, buddy, you're having such a good moment.

[00:54:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Put the mouse back in the house. This is a family establishment.

[00:54:36] [SPEAKER_09]: Hey, look, there are three balls on the field.

[00:54:43] [SPEAKER_08]: That's just I loved that moment when George stands up to Rupert.

[00:54:47] [SPEAKER_08]: And I think that's the that's the moment that Rupert knows like he's got nothing left.

[00:54:53] [SPEAKER_08]: No, not this guy doesn't even isn't even listening to me. Rupert's power is gone.

[00:55:00] [SPEAKER_08]: It's awesome.

[00:55:01] [SPEAKER_08]: That desperate that the desperation to shove him down in front of everyone,

[00:55:07] [SPEAKER_08]: not just Richmond fans, but West Ham fans as well.

[00:55:12] [SPEAKER_04]: And it's obviously just shocking that the owner of a club would dare to approach the pitch

[00:55:21] [SPEAKER_04]: during a game. Just everybody has never done that.

[00:55:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Violence. Right. Rebecca would never do it anyways. She has beautiful heels.

[00:55:31] [SPEAKER_04]: There's no way she would take those heels onto the pitch. Come on.

[00:55:34] [SPEAKER_09]: That's true.

[00:55:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, let's just get that out of the way now that that out of the way.

[00:55:40] [SPEAKER_04]: And then and then it's like I don't know what he was thinking would happen.

[00:55:45] [SPEAKER_04]: It's not like he's on enemy territory whether and I think that he is still

[00:55:52] [SPEAKER_04]: delusional enough in this moment to think he's still loved by Richmond because he was for a really

[00:55:57] [SPEAKER_04]: long time. They still loved him. He went into the bar. They still loved him. This club, this fan base,

[00:56:05] [SPEAKER_04]: this community has turned on their previous owner that toxicity is gone. They've made the breakup.

[00:56:12] [SPEAKER_04]: They've moved on with their life. They're in a healthier relationship and they can recognize

[00:56:17] [SPEAKER_04]: that they were in a poisonous relationship and they finally call him a wanker.

[00:56:24] [SPEAKER_08]: Call back again. Another callback back to episode one of this series. Yeah.

[00:56:31] [SPEAKER_08]: When everybody in the stands called Ted a wanker and now they're calling Rupert the wanker.

[00:56:37] [SPEAKER_08]: Sassy included.

[00:56:39] [SPEAKER_08]: She was so excited.

[00:56:42] [SPEAKER_08]: They're pointing the finger like looking at Rebecca like you hear what they're calling him?

[00:56:46] [SPEAKER_08]: We were all sassy in that moment. We were all standing up going wanker.

[00:56:52] [SPEAKER_08]: But I love the fact too that like there is a satisfaction on Rebecca's face

[00:56:58] [SPEAKER_08]: and it's not a satisfaction that Rupert is getting his comeuppings. It's a satisfaction

[00:57:04] [SPEAKER_08]: in Rebecca realizing she never had to destroy Rupert. Rupert was going to destroy himself.

[00:57:12] [SPEAKER_08]: All she had to do was wait it out and let it happen.

[00:57:16] [SPEAKER_04]: And I think Ted taught her that because you see Ted is very relaxed in this episode.

[00:57:22] [SPEAKER_04]: And a lot of that has to do with the fact that Ted never changed his philosophy,

[00:57:28] [SPEAKER_04]: never changed who he was. He let his way just work its way into the team, into the club,

[00:57:39] [SPEAKER_04]: into the community. He trusted the process. Rupert obviously does not trust the process.

[00:57:48] [SPEAKER_04]: And you see the different leadership styles between Ted and Rebecca and Rupert and whoever

[00:57:57] [SPEAKER_04]: his coach is. And you see that you go from very reactionary to a level of trust in who

[00:58:05] [SPEAKER_04]: you have put, where you have put them. And you see just how different those leadership

[00:58:10] [SPEAKER_04]: styles are in this final game. And if that doesn't teach you something about how to run a team,

[00:58:17] [SPEAKER_04]: about how to treat people, about how to include everyone and accept everyone, then you did not

[00:58:24] [SPEAKER_08]: understand the point of this show. Yeah. Yeah. You know, and oh crap, I had another

[00:58:32] [SPEAKER_08]: point. I totally forgot what it was. I'm so sorry. No, it's not your fault. It's not your fault.

[00:58:38] [SPEAKER_08]: It's weird. I scratched Rupert's downfall off my notes and I think I scratched my point off too

[00:58:44] [SPEAKER_08]: when I did that. Like I forgot what the other point I had was. Oh well, it'll come back around.

[00:58:50] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, exactly. But yeah, like Rupert's downfall was one of the best parts of this episode

[00:58:57] [SPEAKER_08]: and seeing it finally happen because we all knew it was, we all knew that this was going to happen.

[00:59:03] [SPEAKER_08]: Rupert was going to get his comeuppance and having Richmond turn against him, he loses both

[00:59:09] [SPEAKER_08]: teams by the end of this. And you know, like it's actually like very, like cinematically,

[00:59:16] [SPEAKER_08]: it's actually very beautifully done that when, oh I remember the point,

[00:59:19] [SPEAKER_08]: because it actually plays into this, when Rupert walks off the field and he takes,

[00:59:25] [SPEAKER_08]: like we see like that close up on Rupert as he's taken that final look out onto the field

[00:59:31] [SPEAKER_08]: of this crowd calling him a wanker. That's it. That's a series wrap on Rupert right there.

[00:59:37] [SPEAKER_08]: You know, and I mean legitimately it was a series wrap on Anthony head because that was his final scene.

[00:59:44] [SPEAKER_08]: But you know, I think Rupert realizes in that moment too, like I've got nothing left.

[00:59:50] [SPEAKER_08]: Like I'm done. Like this is it. But the point I thought of that I forgot that I remember now is

[00:59:57] [SPEAKER_08]: in addition to him, Rupert coming down to the field and walking out and confronting George

[01:00:03] [SPEAKER_08]: to show the brazenness that he has to just walk right through Richmond's team

[01:00:10] [SPEAKER_08]: and not only walk right through Richmond's team but walk past Nate without even looking at him.

[01:00:17] [SPEAKER_08]: Nate knows, Nate already realized it by this point but this is like the confirmation that

[01:00:23] [SPEAKER_08]: Nate was never anything to Rupert because Rupert can't even give him a glance. Like doesn't

[01:00:29] [SPEAKER_08]: even like look at him as he's passing him twice. He passes Nate.

[01:00:33] [SPEAKER_08]: Nate looks nervous too. Well you know this is a guy that he worked for and he at some point

[01:00:40] [SPEAKER_08]: at one point maybe even looked up to for a short time.

[01:00:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe he thought that Rupert was coming out to beat him down for leaving him and putting

[01:00:49] [SPEAKER_04]: them in this position. I mean who knows? That could be the case too. Yeah, he might have been

[01:00:53] [SPEAKER_04]: nervous that Rupert was coming to confront him. Hey, who's a who's wonder kind play

[01:01:00] [SPEAKER_04]: was it at the end? Huh? Who's wonder kind play was it at the end?

[01:01:06] [SPEAKER_08]: I mentioned, hold on. Let me make sure there's nothing else about Rupert before we start jumping

[01:01:14] [SPEAKER_08]: into let me see. All right, I'm going to stick with Nate but I'm not going to go to the game yet

[01:01:23] [SPEAKER_08]: because there's something else I want to talk about when it comes to Nate if that's all right.

[01:01:28] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, of course. Do it. So I mentioned at the top of this episode how

[01:01:36] [SPEAKER_08]: there are there were particular moments that hit just as hard and there are some

[01:01:41] [SPEAKER_08]: moments that hit harder than they did the last time. Nate apologizing to Ted hit

[01:01:51] [SPEAKER_08]: so much harder this time because I think the first time we watched this finale we were still

[01:01:59] [SPEAKER_08]: conflicted on our feelings for Nate like we were conflicted on whether or not this was a deserved

[01:02:06] [SPEAKER_08]: reconciliation whether or not this was deserved. What's the word I'm looking for?

[01:02:16] [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, why can't I think of the word? You know a deserved comeback for Nate.

[01:02:23] [SPEAKER_08]: And upon second watch of this season reanalyzing everything with Nate we know

[01:02:30] [SPEAKER_08]: this was deserved. We know this was earned and we also know that there's only one thing left

[01:02:36] [SPEAKER_08]: and it's for Nate to apologize to Ted. It's for Nate and Ted to reconnect.

[01:02:41] [SPEAKER_08]: We know that Nate is part of the team because he's the assistant to the kit man,

[01:02:47] [SPEAKER_08]: which I love that little office reference. Nice little office reference. Yeah.

[01:02:52] [SPEAKER_08]: You know and I love that Nate is perfectly happy working for Will like he's just happy to be

[01:02:57] [SPEAKER_08]: part of that team. We know he's part of Richmond again. We know he's been accepted back but

[01:03:02] [SPEAKER_08]: there's still that overlying you know Ted and Nate conclusion. And when Ted walks down the hallway

[01:03:11] [SPEAKER_08]: and he sees Nate standing in the locker room just standing at the wall and Nate, you know

[01:03:18] [SPEAKER_08]: Nate says like he starts to talk to Nate and Ted's like I know and Nate's like no I have to do

[01:03:24] [SPEAKER_08]: this and Ted allows him to do it because he knows that Nate has to do it for Nate.

[01:03:30] [SPEAKER_08]: Nate has to do it. And when he apologizes like that, like I don't remember crying the first time

[01:03:38] [SPEAKER_08]: in that moment. I remember getting a little choked up. I cried this time.

[01:03:45] [SPEAKER_08]: Because again like this we know now upon second viewing of this season and this series this was

[01:03:52] [SPEAKER_08]: earned. Just how sorry he was. We know how sorry he is this time. I don't think we wanted

[01:03:58] [SPEAKER_08]: to accept it last time. There was still a little reluctance on our parts as viewers

[01:04:03] [SPEAKER_08]: to allow Nate back into the fold. This time we know he's earned it. We know he deserves it.

[01:04:09] [SPEAKER_08]: So that apology hit, that apology definitely hit me harder this time around. I don't know your

[01:04:16] [SPEAKER_04]: thoughts on. I agree with you. I did think that Ted was going to try and brush it under

[01:04:24] [SPEAKER_04]: the rug. He's like no, no, no you don't need to say it. And Nate's like I have to say this.

[01:04:30] [SPEAKER_04]: I have to do this and you know Ted needed to let him do it. And I'm glad that Ted let him apologize.

[01:04:38] [SPEAKER_04]: But when it really came down to it, Nate was sorry for so much that it was almost

[01:04:46] [SPEAKER_04]: overwhelming. It was overwhelming for him and all he could do is just fall apart saying

[01:04:53] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm sorry and hug Ted because if he were to really sit there and apologize for everything,

[01:05:01] [SPEAKER_04]: he'd be there all day. Yeah. And it's all water under the bridge at that point anyways.

[01:05:08] [SPEAKER_08]: It already was. Yeah, right exactly. But Nate needed this for himself. I don't think Nate

[01:05:16] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't think as happy as he was to be brought back into Richmond. I don't think Nate personally

[01:05:21] [SPEAKER_08]: would have felt himself part of that team again until this happened. Even with Ted going home,

[01:05:28] [SPEAKER_08]: like he could have never said anything to Ted and let Ted go home having never,

[01:05:33] [SPEAKER_08]: but then Nate would have had to live with that. You know, that he never got to say what he

[01:05:39] [SPEAKER_08]: really wanted to say 100%. So you know, and I love the fact that like Nate was forgiven by

[01:05:46] [SPEAKER_08]: Ted even before Nate apologized. Yeah. But Ted knew that he needed this for himself.

[01:05:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Nate was forgiven by Ted the minute he left the team. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And Nate was still with

[01:06:01] [SPEAKER_08]: with West Ham and he was forgiven. I think Henry had a lot to do with that.

[01:06:10] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. I can see that. You know, there's just but again, like this scene, man, just like I

[01:06:20] [SPEAKER_08]: cried during the scene this time around because again, it hit harder.

[01:06:25] [SPEAKER_04]: And the absence of that believe sign is just such a

[01:06:31] [SPEAKER_04]: huge unspoken reminder of Nate's destruction or attempt at destroying the team at his attempt

[01:06:41] [SPEAKER_04]: of destroying Ted, you know, of Nate's of late of Nate's lowest moments.

[01:06:49] [SPEAKER_08]: And so I'm glad that it was fixed. I'll even add to that too and say that maybe

[01:06:56] [SPEAKER_08]: even there was a lesson for Ted in this because in that conversation, Ted says to Nate like you

[01:07:01] [SPEAKER_08]: only tore it once. I tore that sucker twice, you know, so you were already forgiven. And I think

[01:07:08] [SPEAKER_08]: like there could even be a lesson in that for Ted that Ted like Nate helped Ted realize

[01:07:12] [SPEAKER_08]: a sign doesn't give you belief. Like it comes on its own. You don't need a sign to give it to

[01:07:20] [SPEAKER_08]: you. And Nate helped him to realize that like that became the fourth thing.

[01:07:28] [SPEAKER_08]: We'll get to that because, man, that is one of the most powerful fucking scenes

[01:07:36] [SPEAKER_08]: in television, in my opinion, but we will we will get to that.

[01:07:42] [SPEAKER_08]: But yeah, you know, so like you said, talking about all that and then

[01:07:47] [SPEAKER_08]: leading to Nate's play being the one that ends up, you know, there's so much more inclusion of

[01:07:55] [SPEAKER_08]: Nate in this episode like Nate has been like I'm going to bring this scene up because I

[01:08:00] [SPEAKER_08]: know you're going to want to talk about it after I bring it up. We get a full formation,

[01:08:07] [SPEAKER_08]: including one new member of the Diamond Dogs.

[01:08:16] [SPEAKER_08]: So if you're all right with it before we I want to kind of save the game and half time

[01:08:22] [SPEAKER_08]: and the wrap up to this conversation. I like it when Nate takes his seat again

[01:08:29] [SPEAKER_04]: and he's so excited to take his little seat again when he's like, oh Diamond Dogs mount up. He's

[01:08:34] [SPEAKER_08]: like, yes, like he gets to be there. We get that little I don't love it because I've done

[01:08:39] [SPEAKER_08]: this before too, especially when I was younger. The whole when you hop up on something but you

[01:08:44] [SPEAKER_08]: don't sit right down. You are hovering over it straight armed like he is. So you only do that

[01:08:51] [SPEAKER_08]: when you're happy or excited and he is so excited to be in that office with everybody

[01:09:00] [SPEAKER_04]: because he tried to start his own Diamond Dogs and failed. Yeah, he is he is brought back into

[01:09:08] [SPEAKER_08]: the Diamond Dogs are whole with actually with new member not just Roy but Trent

[01:09:16] [SPEAKER_08]: is even because Trent was about to leave the room as they were having a conversation

[01:09:21] [SPEAKER_08]: and Ted's like, no, no, you're part of this team now. Like you are staying and Beard gives the

[01:09:26] [SPEAKER_08]: nod like, yeah, like you are part of this now. You are a member of this team.

[01:09:33] [SPEAKER_04]: I love Trent so much. And then what was wonderful about go ahead. No, no, go ahead.

[01:09:41] [SPEAKER_04]: I was just gonna say what was wonderful about this scene and there's so many wonderful things

[01:09:45] [SPEAKER_04]: about this scene. But what I took away from the scene my one takeaway was that

[01:09:52] [SPEAKER_04]: everybody gave advice to Roy. They gave they gave the most perfect advice from them. And Leslie,

[01:10:03] [SPEAKER_04]: of course says the wisest thing and everybody's like, oh yes, yes, yes, yes, like he's almost

[01:10:10] [SPEAKER_04]: like their shaman or something like that. Like Leslie shows up and I just I'm like,

[01:10:14] [SPEAKER_04]: okay, Higgins is here. Everything's going to be fine.

[01:10:22] [SPEAKER_08]: Let's so let's back up a little bit before we kind of dive further into the into the Diamond

[01:10:27] [SPEAKER_08]: Dogs thing because there's there's stuff that happens in this episode that kind of leads us

[01:10:31] [SPEAKER_08]: to that Diamond Dog session and Roy wanting to be finally wanting to be a Diamond Dog.

[01:10:36] [SPEAKER_08]: And it is the the complicatedness of the love triangle, not love triangle, love angle,

[01:10:47] [SPEAKER_08]: which actually I found out there is an actual name for what this is that is not a love triangle.

[01:10:54] [SPEAKER_08]: A friend of mine who is actually staying me staying with me for a couple of days this past

[01:10:57] [SPEAKER_08]: week brought it to me because he is Polly. He is in a Polly relationship so he knows these

[01:11:03] [SPEAKER_08]: terms. It's not a love triangle. It's actually called a love hinge.

[01:11:09] [SPEAKER_08]: And it is like, you know, because that's what it is like and that angle can change. So that's why

[01:11:17] [SPEAKER_08]: it's actually called a love hinge and not a love angle. But we're seeing like Roy is he's kind

[01:11:24] [SPEAKER_08]: of has this hope build up that things could be reignited with him and Keely. Jamie feels

[01:11:29] [SPEAKER_08]: like he's grown. So he kind of wants to reignite this thing with Keely. The two of them believe

[01:11:35] [SPEAKER_08]: that they both have a shot and when they show up at Keely's door having fought over the idea of

[01:11:45] [SPEAKER_08]: who gets to be with Keely, totally forgetting that Keely has a say in this. We're idiots.

[01:11:55] [SPEAKER_08]: And the two of them sitting at the table giving them like saying like, we're going to let you

[01:12:01] [SPEAKER_08]: decide and Keely, please don't say it because she knows. She knows too this is so stupid.

[01:12:09] [SPEAKER_08]: But I like that she kicks them out. Yeah, she just closes the door on them. And I like it

[01:12:14] [SPEAKER_08]: only takes that moment for Roy and Jamie to be like, yeah, this was stupid. This was the

[01:12:20] [SPEAKER_04]: dumb idea. And they're just so bloody idiots. Yep, I think I think personally

[01:12:28] [SPEAKER_04]: that Roy and Keely did end up together because I just didn't get any kind of chemistry of will

[01:12:33] [SPEAKER_04]: they won't they with Jamie and Keely? He's like, I just want my publicist there, blah, blah, blah.

[01:12:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay. But with Roy and Keely, there was electricity in this episode. And I really,

[01:12:49] [SPEAKER_04]: really, really felt that that is the direction it was going into was that Keely and Roy were

[01:12:55] [SPEAKER_04]: going to end up together. And Jamie was always going to be Roy's best friend and really close

[01:13:02] [SPEAKER_04]: with Keely like those three. I have no worries about their friendship or their connection or anything.

[01:13:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Even if Keely and Roy get back together, Jamie will either marry them or be the best man and

[01:13:15] [SPEAKER_04]: made of honor. You know what I'm saying? I just get that feeling when I see the three of them.

[01:13:23] [SPEAKER_04]: I really the first time I watched the show, I was like, yeah, and I wonder who they ended

[01:13:26] [SPEAKER_04]: up together, blah, blah, blah or maybe not at all. But in this episode watching it, I really felt

[01:13:34] [SPEAKER_04]: the chemistry between Keely and Roy way more than any interaction that Keely had with Jamie. How about you?

[01:13:41] [SPEAKER_08]: No, I can see that as well. I don't know if I felt like an electricity between Roy and

[01:13:48] [SPEAKER_08]: Keely in this episode. I know there was definitely connection. I saw connection between

[01:13:53] [SPEAKER_08]: both of them. But looking at how the episode ends and how the series ends, if I had to guess,

[01:14:01] [SPEAKER_08]: I would say the same thing. I would say that Roy and Keely ended up back together.

[01:14:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Phoebe is sitting on Keely's lap at the end.

[01:14:09] [SPEAKER_08]: Well, I think that's because Phoebe, Keely will always be Aunt Keely to Phoebe,

[01:14:13] [SPEAKER_08]: whether she ends whoever she ends up with. Yeah, but there's just, I don't know.

[01:14:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Also, you get the callbacks too with Roy surprising Keely in the parking lot and she's

[01:14:25] [SPEAKER_04]: smiling about it. And he's like, well, what are you thinking about? Stuff. Yeah, terrifying.

[01:14:31] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, like you're just sitting there like, yeah, do it. Get scary. Yeah, there's just, I mean,

[01:14:40] [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, very clearly there's stuff they both have to learn because they both learned that

[01:14:45] [SPEAKER_08]: lesson this episode about how Keely has a voice of her own and you're not going to force her to

[01:14:51] [SPEAKER_08]: decide between the two of you. Right. Like, you know, like they're still learning stuff about

[01:14:56] [SPEAKER_08]: this whole thing. But if I had to say who Keely ends up with, I would say Roy. If it was one of

[01:15:03] [SPEAKER_08]: the two of them, I would say Roy. I just felt like over the course of this series, Roy and

[01:15:08] [SPEAKER_08]: Keely had so much more of a connection than Keely and Jamie ever did. Keely and Jamie was a trophy

[01:15:15] [SPEAKER_04]: relationship. It was a very juvenile relationship. There wasn't any depth to it. But at the time,

[01:15:23] [SPEAKER_08]: Keely was a model. Jamie was a star player. Like it felt like it was a Hollywood relationship.

[01:15:30] [SPEAKER_08]: Which it probably was. Yeah. Keely and Roy, like that was, Keely and Jamie was a relationship for

[01:15:39] [SPEAKER_08]: appearance with some fun thrown into it. Keely and Roy was a relationship for maturity and strength.

[01:15:50] [SPEAKER_08]: They built each old people love relationship. It was actual relationship. Yeah. They built

[01:15:56] [SPEAKER_08]: each other up so much more than Keely and Jamie ever did. Now, that's not to say that a relationship

[01:16:05] [SPEAKER_08]: between Jamie and Keely now wouldn't be different because Jamie has definitely matured.

[01:16:11] [SPEAKER_08]: But I still think Roy and Keely is the stronger choice. Well, I think

[01:16:17] [SPEAKER_04]: what it is is that Jamie wants another chance as the new improved version of Jamie. He wants

[01:16:24] [SPEAKER_04]: that new version that he wants another shot to see if he could be the boyfriend of Keely that

[01:16:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Keely deserved from him. The thing is though, is that I don't think that he's realized that he's

[01:16:38] [SPEAKER_04]: actually grown and evolved past Keely. Keely already has grown and evolved past him.

[01:16:47] [SPEAKER_04]: But I think that Jamie has grown up and evolved to the point that he doesn't need to revisit

[01:16:53] [SPEAKER_04]: that part of his past anymore. He can appreciate it for what it was and he can build a friendship and

[01:17:00] [SPEAKER_04]: a professional relationship with her absolutely. I mean, as his publicist, who knows Jamie better

[01:17:07] [SPEAKER_04]: than Keely? Nobody, I would venture to say. So she could probably just do gangbusters for his

[01:17:16] [SPEAKER_04]: already very successful career, especially when it comes to his post-playing career.

[01:17:21] [SPEAKER_04]: I see that relationship more than I see a romantic relationship with them in the future.

[01:17:28] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I see that too. I probably can say the same thing. But again, with everything that

[01:17:35] [SPEAKER_08]: happens between the three of them, this threpple per se as we have gotten and the complicatedness

[01:17:40] [SPEAKER_08]: of it and who's going to end up who and such, what? It's not a threpple. Sorry. Sorry.

[01:17:49] [SPEAKER_08]: It's not a love triangle. It's not a love triangle either.

[01:17:55] [SPEAKER_04]: I broke my Facebook rule just to add in to that.

[01:18:00] [SPEAKER_08]: You broke your Facebook rule? What do you mean by that?

[01:18:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I don't comment on Facebook. Oh, wait. It was in a thread. Never mind.

[01:18:09] [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, it was like, what are you talking about? Yeah, so again, that leads us-

[01:18:19] [SPEAKER_08]: Early our conversation with Roy walking in and how do you know if a girl likes you?

[01:18:27] [SPEAKER_08]: And they're like, oh, this sounds like an idea for the Diamond Dogs.

[01:18:30] [SPEAKER_08]: And he's like, no, no. And he's walking out just repeating the word no because he wants

[01:18:37] [SPEAKER_08]: absolutely no part of it. But then we get fast forward to everything that happens

[01:18:43] [SPEAKER_08]: with Jamie and Keely and Roy. And we get finally Nate in the office and Trent's

[01:18:47] [SPEAKER_08]: in the office. Everybody is there like full Diamond Dogs together,

[01:18:52] [SPEAKER_08]: in a reunion and Roy just out of nowhere with this childlike sincerity.

[01:19:00] [SPEAKER_08]: Just can I be a Diamond Dog? And everybody like looking around like,

[01:19:06] [SPEAKER_08]: we being pranked? Like what is this? Even Nate is looking for the cameras.

[01:19:13] [SPEAKER_08]: He's looking outside the office door waiting to see if there's anything.

[01:19:18] [SPEAKER_08]: He's like, no. Because they never expected this.

[01:19:23] [SPEAKER_08]: You know, and then when they mount up and they talk about it and it leads us to what

[01:19:30] [SPEAKER_08]: you mentioned with Higgins and his advice as to whether or not people can change.

[01:19:35] [SPEAKER_08]: And he says, I don't think we change per se as much as we just

[01:19:40] [SPEAKER_08]: learn to accept who we've always been, which is great fucking advice for anybody.

[01:19:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I think that that's what it really is too, is that we it's not that we change. It's that we relax.

[01:19:56] [SPEAKER_04]: We accept who we are and we stop trying to be different people for others.

[01:20:06] [SPEAKER_04]: It's very wise. And it's very wise coming from Trent because Trent went through his,

[01:20:11] [SPEAKER_04]: I am going to accept who I am moment already.

[01:20:16] [SPEAKER_08]: I think we change per se as we just learn. Oh no, you're right.

[01:20:24] [SPEAKER_08]: You're right. I was confusing because Higgins advice comes later. So I'm sorry.

[01:20:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I liked it because Trent went through that.

[01:20:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Trent was gay his whole life. Got married, had kids and denied that part of himself.

[01:20:42] [SPEAKER_04]: And then finally he accepted who he was and he came out better for it.

[01:20:47] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, but I love how like the conversation ends with Roy too because Roy also, or not Roy,

[01:20:53] [SPEAKER_08]: with Ted, because Ted also makes a very good point too. And he says, agree to disagree.

[01:20:58] [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, you just piped up out of nowhere and finally asked to become a diamond dog.

[01:21:02] [SPEAKER_08]: Like that's a change. That's a big change for Roy. So I think it is a little bit of both.

[01:21:08] [SPEAKER_04]: I think people can accept him who he always was. He always wanted to be a diamond.

[01:21:13] [SPEAKER_04]: He didn't think that he could become one because he had to be Roy fucking Kent, you know.

[01:21:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Do that again. No, that was it. That's all you get. I hate you.

[01:21:30] [SPEAKER_08]: Sorry. Now you're right. That was yeah, I think you're right. Like Ted says that was a

[01:21:36] [SPEAKER_08]: change. But I think you're right. I think Roy was always because look, he's there's been times where

[01:21:41] [SPEAKER_08]: the diamond dogs have come together and Roy was just outside the room listening. Like he's always

[01:21:47] [SPEAKER_08]: wanted to be a diamond dog. This is him just accepting that and finally saying it.

[01:21:53] [SPEAKER_08]: So yeah, I think you're right. No, just like Nate, just like Nate, I'm sorry, just like Nate.

[01:22:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Nate was always supposed to just, Nate didn't want to be anything more than just a part of the team.

[01:22:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Right? I mean, eventually at the end, yes, he does go back to his coaching, the coaching staff.

[01:22:17] [SPEAKER_04]: But Nate, Nate needed validation. Nate thought he needed validation

[01:22:24] [SPEAKER_04]: as a coach to be respected and accepted on the team when really he liked where he was.

[01:22:33] [SPEAKER_04]: He just wanted to be accepted. And once he was accepted by the team, he didn't care where he

[01:22:39] [SPEAKER_04]: was on the team as long as he was a part of it. I don't think that was a change that was him

[01:22:43] [SPEAKER_04]: accepting who he is. Right? And same with Beard. Yeah, yeah. I could go down the whole list.

[01:22:51] [SPEAKER_04]: I could go down the whole list with every single character that way.

[01:22:54] [SPEAKER_08]: And acceptance over change, yeah. Acceptance over change, 100%.

[01:22:59] [SPEAKER_08]: But yeah, so but going forward to what I said about Higgins advice, which was also great

[01:23:04] [SPEAKER_08]: advice because I had trends confused. Higgins was actually humans. Human beings are never

[01:23:09] [SPEAKER_08]: going to be perfect Roy. The best we can do is keep asking for help and accepting it when

[01:23:14] [SPEAKER_08]: you can. And if you keep on doing that, you'll always be moving towards the better. Again,

[01:23:20] [SPEAKER_04]: great advice. I need it on a pillow or a poster for my classroom.

[01:23:26] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm sure you can create it. It might already exist.

[01:23:30] [SPEAKER_04]: It might already exist. I could do it.

[01:23:35] [SPEAKER_04]: You have a cricket, you can do it. I have a cricket, I can figure it out.

[01:23:42] [SPEAKER_08]: I love the list of perfect stuff that they go through to when Roy says perfection sucks,

[01:23:48] [SPEAKER_08]: perfect is boring. Except Shawshank, that's not boring. Thank you for that acknowledgement

[01:23:53] [SPEAKER_08]: because that is a perfect movie. Well, that's true. I mean, there are perfect films

[01:24:00] [SPEAKER_08]: back to the future which Beard says which thank you for that beard. Jaws.

[01:24:05] [SPEAKER_08]: I would say Trent's hair is perfect. Because it is.

[01:24:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Not boring at all. I like it that Trent's like, thank you.

[01:24:13] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[01:24:15] [SPEAKER_04]: He's like finally somebody noticed. Thank you.

[01:24:18] [SPEAKER_08]: Sure. You know, attributes Grace Kelly's eyes. The other side of the pillow. That is absolutely

[01:24:23] [SPEAKER_08]: perfect. Yes. Jackpotato, jack, jackpotato cheese and beans, perfect foods, spaghetti

[01:24:29] [SPEAKER_08]: bolognese. I love that Roy throws out Billy Joel's The Stranger album because that album

[01:24:35] [SPEAKER_04]: is amazing. Pearl Jam 10. That's my perfection. Yeah. Pearl Jam 10.

[01:24:42] [SPEAKER_08]: Pearl Jam 10 is a, that is a pretty perfect album.

[01:24:47] [SPEAKER_08]: It's more of that jagged little pill. Green Days Dookie. Also another amazing album.

[01:24:54] [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, maybe we could go down a whole list.

[01:24:57] [SPEAKER_04]: I like that because we're going down from Rabbit Hole and who was it? Was it Ted or was

[01:25:02] [SPEAKER_04]: it Roy that just pulled them out and was like, okay, okay, okay. As far as people go.

[01:25:07] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. Because he says, he says like perfection is all around us everywhere you look. The mighty red

[01:25:13] [SPEAKER_08]: wood. But yeah, it's Roy that kind of like pulls them out. And then Higgins,

[01:25:20] [SPEAKER_08]: you know, is the one that makes the advice. But like, and I also love too that once Roy

[01:25:27] [SPEAKER_08]: accepts the fact, like once he asks to be a diamond dog and he accepts the fact that he

[01:25:33] [SPEAKER_08]: has a diamond dog, there's that scene where Nate says like I have a girlfriend. Her name is Jade.

[01:25:39] [SPEAKER_08]: She's pretty perfect. We see Roy like actually putting his hands up and start panting along.

[01:25:44] [SPEAKER_04]: He's accepted it. He is finally a diamond dog. He is playing completely long.

[01:25:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Which is good because he has to take up the mantle at the end.

[01:25:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Which is true. You know those diamond dogs are staying.

[01:25:58] [SPEAKER_08]: That is the old, oh God, yeah. Because they don't need Ted and Beard to continue with the diamond

[01:26:03] [SPEAKER_08]: dogs. Beards there too. Oh, that's right. Beard is there. They don't need Ted

[01:26:07] [SPEAKER_04]: to continue with the diamond dogs. No. And you know what? The last, the back half of this

[01:26:12] [SPEAKER_04]: entire season, Ted is not needed. Ted lifts out. And I think that was the whole point.

[01:26:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Ted now lifts out of Richmond. He didn't before. Yeah. Well, I mean, it leads into and I think

[01:26:27] [SPEAKER_08]: Ted is always, Ted is always known that not, I think Ted has always known this too. Because

[01:26:34] [SPEAKER_08]: when you look at the, when you look at Trent's book by the end of this, Beard has all these tabs

[01:26:41] [SPEAKER_08]: like hundreds of tabs sticking out of all these different changes he would make to the book.

[01:26:48] [SPEAKER_08]: And Ted has one note. Just one. And it's the title. Like I would change the title. It was never about me.

[01:26:58] [SPEAKER_08]: It's not a title when he saw it. It's not about that. Yeah. It's not about me. It never has been.

[01:27:07] [SPEAKER_08]: And then the title of the book changes to the Richmond way.

[01:27:11] [SPEAKER_08]: Which is perfect. And I love that Roy is the one that did a forward on the book.

[01:27:16] [SPEAKER_08]: I want to read that forward. Because I can't imagine.

[01:27:21] [SPEAKER_04]: That's what I mean. Like, I don't know. I would like, I hope it was unedited and just full Roy kit.

[01:27:30] [SPEAKER_08]: I want to read what the forward of that book was. I just want to know what Roy had to say.

[01:27:37] [SPEAKER_04]: So I have a question for you. Okay. Did Sam join the Nigerian team?

[01:27:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Or was that for like World Cup?

[01:27:47] [SPEAKER_08]: No. I think that was, I think that was international play.

[01:27:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay. So he stayed on Richmond.

[01:27:54] [SPEAKER_08]: I think he stayed on Richmond, but he went to home. He finally got the ability to play for Nigeria or with Nigeria during international play.

[01:28:01] [SPEAKER_08]: Because remember, he didn't get to do that because of what's his face.

[01:28:05] [SPEAKER_04]: When I didn't notice, did he wear, did he wear Jamie's number?

[01:28:11] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't think he was back.

[01:28:14] [SPEAKER_04]: It would have been fun to see if he wore Jamie's number.

[01:28:16] [SPEAKER_08]: That would have been great.

[01:28:17] [SPEAKER_04]: That would have been a cool callback.

[01:28:19] [SPEAKER_08]: A little bit of a retribution, but reciprocation.

[01:28:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[01:28:26] [SPEAKER_08]: Before we get into the game and then the final wrap up of everything that happens,

[01:28:32] [SPEAKER_08]: I only have one other thing that kind of happens in this episode that I want to,

[01:28:36] [SPEAKER_08]: you know, well too, but they kind of go hand in hand with one another.

[01:28:42] [SPEAKER_08]: You know, we get Higgins pushing Rebecca, you know, we got to pick Roy's replacement,

[01:28:47] [SPEAKER_08]: who we know by the end of this episode, who it is.

[01:28:51] [SPEAKER_08]: Rebecca really not wanting to face it, but she's also,

[01:28:55] [SPEAKER_08]: she's also put the possibility in front of her selling the entire team.

[01:29:01] [SPEAKER_08]: Making Rebecca probably one of the wealthiest women in the UK.

[01:29:06] [SPEAKER_08]: Because the entirety of the team is over $2 billion.

[01:29:11] [SPEAKER_04]: $2 billion. That was a lot of money, but half of it is $1 billion.

[01:29:17] [SPEAKER_08]: I know. I thought the same thing. I'm like, 49% is still $1 billion.

[01:29:22] [SPEAKER_08]: Right. Still $1 billion.

[01:29:25] [SPEAKER_04]: Ridiculous.

[01:29:26] [SPEAKER_04]: On top of the money she already has.

[01:29:29] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. But I think so there's a scene though that happens, you know,

[01:29:34] [SPEAKER_08]: with Rebecca considering selling the team.

[01:29:37] [SPEAKER_08]: And it is the scene in the pub when Jeremy, Baz and Paul pick up the tab.

[01:29:45] [SPEAKER_04]: That was my cry moment.

[01:29:47] [SPEAKER_08]: It is such a great moment because I think there is hesitation in Rebecca at that point.

[01:29:55] [SPEAKER_04]: First of all, they've never had any money.

[01:29:57] [SPEAKER_08]: No.

[01:29:58] [SPEAKER_04]: So the fact that they picked up that tab and who knows the wine that they were drinking,

[01:30:02] [SPEAKER_08]: you know, they were drinking champagne.

[01:30:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay. So there you go already.

[01:30:08] [SPEAKER_08]: But it was either champagne or white wine.

[01:30:10] [SPEAKER_08]: It was one of the two.

[01:30:11] [SPEAKER_04]: That was probably all of their paychecks.

[01:30:14] [SPEAKER_08]: And the fact that like you're right, like they put their money together to do that because

[01:30:19] [SPEAKER_08]: like they just wanted to thank Rebecca for giving them what she has.

[01:30:25] [SPEAKER_04]: They get to go to practice for free.

[01:30:28] [SPEAKER_04]: They get to go see their team for free whenever they want to just go practice.

[01:30:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[01:30:36] [SPEAKER_04]: That's a gift that if I could have done that with the Lakers when Kobe was playing,

[01:30:42] [SPEAKER_04]: that would have meant everything to me.

[01:30:44] [SPEAKER_08]: Well, not only do they get to see the team practice like between what she has done with

[01:30:54] [SPEAKER_08]: that team and what Ted has done with that team and the players themselves have done with that team,

[01:30:58] [SPEAKER_08]: they now like they not only feel like they have pride in their team,

[01:31:04] [SPEAKER_08]: but they feel like they're a part of it.

[01:31:07] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[01:31:08] [SPEAKER_08]: You know, and that's what they're thanking Rebecca for.

[01:31:11] [SPEAKER_08]: And I know like the scene with Rebecca in the stands with Ted where she tells him like,

[01:31:16] [SPEAKER_08]: if you go, I go.

[01:31:19] [SPEAKER_08]: I think it's the same thing with Rebecca in that moment where Ted doesn't kind of want to

[01:31:23] [SPEAKER_08]: hear anything because he doesn't want his mind changed.

[01:31:26] [SPEAKER_08]: I think Rebecca, even though she says if you go, I go, there's hesitation in Rebecca too.

[01:31:32] [SPEAKER_08]: And Paul, Baz and Jeremy are part of that because I think she sees in that moment what

[01:31:38] [SPEAKER_08]: that team means to people and that she is considered part of it.

[01:31:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Who knows who she would sell it to and what they would do to everything that they've built

[01:31:49] [SPEAKER_04]: in that club.

[01:31:52] [SPEAKER_04]: So I think it's smart that she continues to own a controlling share of the team

[01:31:59] [SPEAKER_04]: so that she makes sure that that Richmond way stays.

[01:32:04] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, yeah.

[01:32:06] [SPEAKER_08]: Exactly.

[01:32:08] [SPEAKER_08]: You know, that's exactly what it is.

[01:32:11] [SPEAKER_08]: Like she, you just hit the nail on the head.

[01:32:15] [SPEAKER_08]: I really can't contribute more to that.

[01:32:18] [SPEAKER_08]: But just that whole moment with those three picking up the tab was just it was so sweet.

[01:32:24] [SPEAKER_08]: It was so endearing and it was just a great way to kind of finally,

[01:32:29] [SPEAKER_08]: like, yes, we see them again in the pub cheering and celebrating the win.

[01:32:34] [SPEAKER_08]: But like there's so much more to these three characters other than just being fans in a bar

[01:32:40] [SPEAKER_08]: that we get to see that moment.

[01:32:43] [SPEAKER_08]: And I love the fact too that by the end of this episode,

[01:32:47] [SPEAKER_08]: they are also part owners of that team.

[01:32:50] [SPEAKER_08]: They pooled their money together.

[01:32:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Basil's name is Basil.

[01:32:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Basil.

[01:32:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Basil, I know that that's what they call Basil in the UK as Basil.

[01:33:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

[01:33:00] [SPEAKER_08]: Well, that's why that's why his name is Basil, short for Basil.

[01:33:03] [SPEAKER_04]: No, no, no.

[01:33:04] [SPEAKER_04]: But it was always B-A-Z and it isn't until the very end of

[01:33:08] [SPEAKER_04]: the show that we see his name as Basil.

[01:33:11] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[01:33:11] [SPEAKER_08]: Basil.

[01:33:12] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[01:33:13] [SPEAKER_08]: Basil.

[01:33:13] [SPEAKER_04]: Basil for us yanks.

[01:33:17] [SPEAKER_08]: But yeah, seeing them just it's so because you know that means so much to them.

[01:33:25] [SPEAKER_08]: Even just like having their three names on one share of the team is so great to them.

[01:33:32] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, next to May's stack of like a thousand shares.

[01:33:35] [SPEAKER_08]: Yes.

[01:33:36] [SPEAKER_08]: Which the funniest thing about that scene too is

[01:33:39] [SPEAKER_08]: I like I want to imagine that the money it cost May to buy all of those shares in the team.

[01:33:46] [SPEAKER_08]: She made in one night in that pub when they were playing West Ham.

[01:33:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[01:33:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, she had she had guests.

[01:33:55] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if you saw this, but she had guests like behind her bar just to see the TV.

[01:34:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Like everybody was just crammed in as much as they could be and May just didn't care.

[01:34:06] [SPEAKER_04]: She was like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[01:34:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Pour yourself a beer.

[01:34:08] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't care.

[01:34:09] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm not.

[01:34:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Yep.

[01:34:10] [SPEAKER_04]: This is game time.

[01:34:11] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I would like to think that May bought all of them just from like maybe the past couple games.

[01:34:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[01:34:19] [SPEAKER_08]: Like the success of the bar for the past couple games.

[01:34:20] [SPEAKER_04]: She made so much money in that season, the total football season.

[01:34:25] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean.

[01:34:26] [SPEAKER_08]: Well, and now and now she's probably one of the few if only bars or taverns in that area

[01:34:32] [SPEAKER_08]: that can say come out and watch Richmond here.

[01:34:35] [SPEAKER_08]: We are part owners of this team.

[01:34:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Part owners of the team.

[01:34:39] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, I have a question for you.

[01:34:42] [SPEAKER_09]: Okay.

[01:34:42] [SPEAKER_04]: And it wasn't it wasn't until I saw until this last episode that I actually posed this question.

[01:34:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Do we ever see Ted drive?

[01:34:54] [SPEAKER_09]: No.

[01:34:55] [SPEAKER_04]: No, he is like not in the British way at all.

[01:35:00] [SPEAKER_04]: He walks to and from work.

[01:35:02] [SPEAKER_04]: I think he walks everywhere.

[01:35:04] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, he might take taxis.

[01:35:07] [SPEAKER_08]: But yeah, we never see him get behind the wheel of a car.

[01:35:10] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't think he had a car.

[01:35:12] [SPEAKER_08]: He probably didn't.

[01:35:13] [SPEAKER_08]: Why would he need one?

[01:35:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[01:35:15] [SPEAKER_04]: It's just it was interesting to me that he never like he never fully accepted

[01:35:20] [SPEAKER_04]: his England way of life right down to buying an English car.

[01:35:25] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[01:35:26] [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, it's it's like people who work and live in New York City.

[01:35:31] [SPEAKER_08]: Like most of them don't own cars because why?

[01:35:34] [SPEAKER_08]: Why?

[01:35:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, everybody had a car though at the club.

[01:35:38] [SPEAKER_04]: And he probably would have his own parking spot and you know all that other junk but.

[01:35:43] [SPEAKER_08]: Well, but I'm sure they also wherever they put him to stay was probably relatively close to the

[01:35:49] [SPEAKER_08]: grounds.

[01:35:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, obviously it was because that bar was definitely like a club bar.

[01:35:55] [SPEAKER_04]: That was close enough that you if you didn't have tickets, you definitely were at May's bar.

[01:36:01] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, exactly.

[01:36:03] [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, Taya, I love bars like that too.

[01:36:06] [SPEAKER_08]: Like bars that are just outside of like arenas or ballparks.

[01:36:10] [SPEAKER_08]: Sometimes I have no lie.

[01:36:14] [SPEAKER_08]: I have left games to go to those bars.

[01:36:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, because they're fun.

[01:36:19] [SPEAKER_08]: Especially like here in Philly and I know Alex is listening.

[01:36:22] [SPEAKER_08]: So Alex will appreciate this too.

[01:36:23] [SPEAKER_08]: We have the Xfinity Center, which is like a bunch of different bars and restaurants

[01:36:27] [SPEAKER_08]: in one building.

[01:36:28] [SPEAKER_08]: And it's right across the street from the ballpark, from Citizens Bank Park.

[01:36:32] [SPEAKER_08]: I have left a Philly's game at Citizens Bank Park to walk across the street to

[01:36:39] [SPEAKER_08]: watch the rest of the game at Xfinity.

[01:36:41] [SPEAKER_08]: That's awesome because it's just the vibe is just so much.

[01:36:46] [SPEAKER_08]: It's better now if it was Santa Claus and inside those bars.

[01:36:52] [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, if it was a playoff game, I would have never left the ballpark.

[01:36:55] [SPEAKER_08]: No, nobody like like a right.

[01:36:57] [SPEAKER_08]: Regular season game.

[01:36:58] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, like Tuesday.

[01:37:00] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[01:37:00] [SPEAKER_08]: I have left.

[01:37:02] [SPEAKER_08]: I have left sitting in now.

[01:37:04] [SPEAKER_08]: I didn't leave the building, but I have also left sitting in my seat set a Sixers game

[01:37:10] [SPEAKER_08]: to sit at the bar in the concourse and watch the game on the TVs.

[01:37:15] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm watching the game on TV when I could literally walk 10 feet to my seat and watch

[01:37:21] [SPEAKER_08]: it in person.

[01:37:22] [SPEAKER_04]: That's because you know, you want to be around the fans.

[01:37:25] [SPEAKER_04]: You want to be around.

[01:37:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[01:37:26] [SPEAKER_04]: The excitement.

[01:37:27] [SPEAKER_04]: You want a $4 beer instead of a $40 beer?

[01:37:31] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, no, it was still like a $40 beer.

[01:37:34] [SPEAKER_09]: It was still in the room.

[01:37:35] [SPEAKER_09]: It was still in the building.

[01:37:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, well, OK, never mind.

[01:37:39] [SPEAKER_04]: So before we go on to the game,

[01:37:41] [SPEAKER_08]: Gotcha.

[01:37:42] [SPEAKER_08]: I was just going to ask if you had anything else.

[01:37:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Before we go on to the game because I know that that's the last thing you want to talk

[01:37:47] [SPEAKER_04]: about is I found this little thing.

[01:37:52] [SPEAKER_04]: There's like a little list of when Ted is browsing the newsstand at the end.

[01:37:56] [SPEAKER_04]: You see this?

[01:37:58] [SPEAKER_04]: So I've seen some of the articles at the airport.

[01:38:01] [SPEAKER_04]: The following juicy callbacks were revealed.

[01:38:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Obviously, Rebecca chooses to share sell her shares to Richmond.

[01:38:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Richmond fans.

[01:38:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Who's Miss Cakes?

[01:38:14] [SPEAKER_08]: That is Rupert's assistant.

[01:38:18] [SPEAKER_04]: OK, Miss Cakes is going to be a contestant on Lust Conquers All.

[01:38:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Bex lands a book deal for placenta recipes.

[01:38:28] [SPEAKER_04]: OK, Shandie launched her dating app Starfucker.

[01:38:33] [SPEAKER_04]: One headline reads Jack Danvers is no longer a daddy's little girl.

[01:38:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I miss that one.

[01:38:41] [SPEAKER_04]: That's juicy.

[01:38:42] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[01:38:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Zava returns to football joining LA Football Club.

[01:38:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Weird.

[01:38:48] [SPEAKER_09]: Well, wonder who that style.

[01:38:50] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[01:38:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Ajax wins the Redivisie and the Netherlands.

[01:38:59] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know what that is.

[01:39:00] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't know what that is either.

[01:39:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Zoran is going to star in the Jean-Claude Van Dam remake of Escape to Victory.

[01:39:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, my God.

[01:39:14] [SPEAKER_04]: An article about the quiet genius of Leslie Higgins.

[01:39:19] [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, miss that one too.

[01:39:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Isaac McAdoo is featured in the football magazine.

[01:39:25] [SPEAKER_09]: OK.

[01:39:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Pep in your step.

[01:39:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Pep Guardiola unveils a clothing line for men with perfect silhouettes.

[01:39:35] [SPEAKER_04]: OK, don't know who that is.

[01:39:36] [SPEAKER_04]: That's it.

[01:39:38] [SPEAKER_04]: I maybe he's a team member.

[01:39:41] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I don't know.

[01:39:42] [SPEAKER_08]: But yeah, there are definitely a lot of hidden little Easter eggs in those articles.

[01:39:47] [SPEAKER_04]: I like the one about Jack.

[01:39:50] [SPEAKER_08]: I do too.

[01:39:51] [SPEAKER_08]: I never noticed that one.

[01:39:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Because it makes me happy that, you know, she got her in the end.

[01:39:56] [SPEAKER_08]: She got cut off.

[01:39:57] [SPEAKER_08]: Good.

[01:39:58] [SPEAKER_08]: She got cut off from her dad.

[01:39:59] [SPEAKER_08]: The shandy one I saw obviously like and some and.

[01:40:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Policenta recipes.

[01:40:06] [SPEAKER_04]: That's a very bex.

[01:40:07] [SPEAKER_04]: That's a very bex.

[01:40:08] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[01:40:12] [SPEAKER_08]: There's a comic book that Ted buys too.

[01:40:15] [SPEAKER_08]: I didn't look into that though to see what it is because you know he's buying that to take home to Henry.

[01:40:22] [SPEAKER_08]: But I didn't I didn't pay attention to what it was.

[01:40:28] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, but like so one of the other things I wanted to bring up too before we went into the game.

[01:40:34] [SPEAKER_08]: Actually, I mean it kind of ties into the game because it's the start of the game.

[01:40:37] [SPEAKER_08]: It's up in the the press box where the owners are.

[01:40:41] [SPEAKER_08]: I love the fact that.

[01:40:44] [SPEAKER_08]: They're you know they're sitting up in the owner's box and they're watching the game and

[01:40:49] [SPEAKER_08]: you know, Rebekah, you know Higgins asks Rebecca like is that does that phone call have anything to do

[01:40:54] [SPEAKER_08]: with the future of this team?

[01:40:56] [SPEAKER_08]: And she's like not now like we'll talk about it later.

[01:40:59] [SPEAKER_08]: And it's Higgins' wife that looks at him and says you need to chill.

[01:41:05] [SPEAKER_08]: The one man who has said I'm cool.

[01:41:08] [SPEAKER_09]: I'm chill like yeah he is not chill in this moment.

[01:41:12] [SPEAKER_04]: His beard represents the way that he feels chill.

[01:41:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[01:41:19] [SPEAKER_09]: And his wife is like you need to chill.

[01:41:25] [SPEAKER_08]: And you know and there's a part of me that always has it like that thinks Rebekah always had it in her

[01:41:31] [SPEAKER_08]: head that if Ted were to leave Roy was next in line.

[01:41:35] [SPEAKER_08]: Like she's not going to look outside of the family.

[01:41:38] [SPEAKER_04]: No, no, no, no.

[01:41:40] [SPEAKER_04]: And beard was never head coach status.

[01:41:43] [SPEAKER_08]: No. I don't think beard ever wanted to be head coach status.

[01:41:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Beard just wants to fly in, fly out, read his books.

[01:41:52] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. Oh, I'm glad.

[01:41:53] [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, I'm so glad you said that.

[01:41:55] [SPEAKER_08]: So I did find something on the Beard Book Club as you know to all the books.

[01:42:04] [SPEAKER_08]: And I thought this was so fun because this is actually from

[01:42:12] [SPEAKER_08]: Phil like he actually said this.

[01:42:14] [SPEAKER_08]: So somebody asked him on Twitter or X whatever you call it now.

[01:42:21] [SPEAKER_08]: He says, did you choose the books that Beard read?

[01:42:25] [SPEAKER_08]: They asked him this and he replied.

[01:42:27] [SPEAKER_08]: He said most of them.

[01:42:29] [SPEAKER_08]: Yes, I especially tried to get some FaceTime for my favorite soccer books

[01:42:33] [SPEAKER_08]: but tried to pick ones that had at least a glancing connection to the giving episode.

[01:42:39] [SPEAKER_08]: And then there is one book that I asked our incredible pop department to build

[01:42:44] [SPEAKER_08]: and is otherwise completely fake.

[01:42:47] [SPEAKER_08]: I'll never tell which one, but it's probably not too hard to figure out.

[01:42:53] [SPEAKER_08]: My Mount Rushmore of soccer books are Fever Pitch, Brilliant Orange,

[01:42:57] [SPEAKER_08]: Football Against the Enemy and the Miracle of Castile De Sangro.

[01:43:01] [SPEAKER_08]: So apparently one of the books that Beard reads sometime in this series is fake.

[01:43:09] [SPEAKER_08]: It was made up specifically for the show.

[01:43:12] [SPEAKER_08]: But what fan figure did that?

[01:43:15] [SPEAKER_08]: Nobody did.

[01:43:18] [SPEAKER_08]: So somebody said, somebody made the guess that it is actually the book he is reading

[01:43:24] [SPEAKER_08]: in the finale of season three of the finale, which is the name of the book is impermanence.

[01:43:31] [SPEAKER_08]: But turns out that book is actually real.

[01:43:35] [SPEAKER_08]: Impermanence by Daniel Fresano is about a future populated only by women,

[01:43:41] [SPEAKER_08]: which makes me think there could be a Ted Lasso spin-off about Rebecca and Keely

[01:43:45] [SPEAKER_08]: and the AFC Richmond team.

[01:43:48] [SPEAKER_08]: Yes.

[01:43:49] [SPEAKER_08]: So that could have been his kind of way of toying with the idea that

[01:43:56] [SPEAKER_08]: there could be more Lasso in the future.

[01:44:00] [SPEAKER_08]: But that book that he is reading in the finale is a real book,

[01:44:04] [SPEAKER_08]: but it has me very curious now what is the fake book?

[01:44:10] [SPEAKER_04]: So there is an A.A. on Reddit with Brennan Hunt from a year ago.

[01:44:17] [SPEAKER_08]: Brennan, I could feel sorry I didn't mean it.

[01:44:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Because I just found it.

[01:44:22] [SPEAKER_04]: But I'll bet you it's in there somewhere because there's 3,000 comments.

[01:44:28] [SPEAKER_04]: So feel free to go find the AMA from one year ago.

[01:44:32] [SPEAKER_04]: It's titled, I'm Brennan Hunt, co-creator of Ted Lasso and Coach Beard.

[01:44:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Ask me anything in the subreddit, Ted Lasso.

[01:44:40] [SPEAKER_08]: Okay.

[01:44:42] [SPEAKER_08]: I might have to peruse it just to see if maybe we can find out what that fake book was.

[01:44:46] [SPEAKER_08]: But I found it like so interesting when I found that,

[01:44:48] [SPEAKER_08]: that Brennan Hunt was the one that picked most of the books.

[01:44:53] [SPEAKER_08]: And he specifically tried to find ones that were to that episode.

[01:44:59] [SPEAKER_08]: He's very cerebral.

[01:45:02] [SPEAKER_08]: So we weren't wrong in analyzing the books that he's reading every episode

[01:45:08] [SPEAKER_08]: because they actually had to do with the episode.

[01:45:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, that's very, I love it when people do that.

[01:45:14] [SPEAKER_04]: In the West Wing, there was a website about what was in CJ's Goldfish Tank because

[01:45:24] [SPEAKER_04]: she gets a goldfish from one of the journalists in one of the early seasons,

[01:45:29] [SPEAKER_04]: probably season one.

[01:45:31] [SPEAKER_04]: And for the rest of the series, there was always something that went with the episode

[01:45:38] [SPEAKER_04]: in the Goldfish Tank, in the Goldfish Bowl on her desk.

[01:45:42] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, that's kind of fun.

[01:45:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[01:45:44] [SPEAKER_04]: So that was really fun.

[01:45:45] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm going to have to pay attention to that when I start watching West Wing again.

[01:45:48] [SPEAKER_04]: There you go.

[01:45:49] [SPEAKER_04]: So I like it that they kind of did the same thing with their books.

[01:45:53] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[01:45:55] [SPEAKER_09]: I like that Goldfish thing.

[01:45:57] [SPEAKER_09]: I'm going to have to pay attention to that when I'm watching.

[01:45:59] [SPEAKER_08]: You're welcome.

[01:46:02] [SPEAKER_08]: Okay.

[01:46:03] [SPEAKER_08]: So anything else before we talk about this game,

[01:46:08] [SPEAKER_08]: half time in the end of the series?

[01:46:12] [SPEAKER_04]: I do have one thing.

[01:46:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Keely has changed her PR firm name.

[01:46:21] [SPEAKER_08]: No, it's always been KJPR.

[01:46:23] [SPEAKER_04]: It was KBPR at the end.

[01:46:28] [SPEAKER_08]: No.

[01:46:28] [SPEAKER_04]: The joint, yes it was KBPR, Keely Barbara Public Relations.

[01:46:34] [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, I didn't notice that.

[01:46:39] [SPEAKER_04]: You're welcome.

[01:46:40] [SPEAKER_08]: I like that.

[01:46:42] [SPEAKER_08]: I like that she has teamed up with Barbara on this.

[01:46:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Of course she has.

[01:46:47] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[01:46:48] [SPEAKER_04]: That's so, Keely, that is so, Keely.

[01:46:51] [SPEAKER_04]: And Barbara is delightful in this episode.

[01:46:53] [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, man.

[01:46:55] [SPEAKER_04]: That's game talk.

[01:46:56] [SPEAKER_08]: I didn't notice that.

[01:46:57] [SPEAKER_08]: That's a good pickup.

[01:46:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you.

[01:47:00] [SPEAKER_08]: I apologize for saying no.

[01:47:02] [SPEAKER_08]: I love that.

[01:47:03] [SPEAKER_08]: That's good.

[01:47:05] [SPEAKER_08]: All right.

[01:47:06] [SPEAKER_08]: So we get the lead up to this game,

[01:47:10] [SPEAKER_08]: which is them in the locker room.

[01:47:12] [SPEAKER_08]: And there's a couple little things that happen

[01:47:13] [SPEAKER_08]: in here that are worth mentioning.

[01:47:15] [SPEAKER_08]: We get the call back to Zava in the care package

[01:47:18] [SPEAKER_08]: that he sends.

[01:47:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Zava Beckham.

[01:47:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Zava Beckham.

[01:47:24] [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, we always made the comparison

[01:47:27] [SPEAKER_08]: that Zava is Beckham.

[01:47:29] [SPEAKER_08]: But having him going and playing for LA now

[01:47:31] [SPEAKER_08]: is absolutely plays even more.

[01:47:35] [SPEAKER_08]: But I love that like he sends like this care package.

[01:47:39] [SPEAKER_08]: And Danny's like, no, no, like I don't want to have

[01:47:41] [SPEAKER_08]: anything to do with them.

[01:47:42] [SPEAKER_08]: And he's like, oh, it's shirts.

[01:47:44] [SPEAKER_09]: He's like, well, I'll take two.

[01:47:45] [SPEAKER_09]: Like he's like, and then they're all like one avocado,

[01:47:49] [SPEAKER_04]: one avocado for every one.

[01:47:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[01:47:51] [SPEAKER_08]: Jamie's like, oh, like he sent us one avocado.

[01:47:55] [SPEAKER_08]: And Colin holds this up.

[01:47:57] [SPEAKER_08]: And it leads to one of my favorite quotes of this scene.

[01:48:07] [SPEAKER_08]: Just the way he says it is just like, and I love that like

[01:48:11] [SPEAKER_08]: Jamie is the one person who was always against Zava,

[01:48:14] [SPEAKER_08]: but he's the one holding the avocado by the end of this.

[01:48:19] [SPEAKER_04]: You know what though?

[01:48:22] [SPEAKER_04]: As crappy as Zava was, Zava understood in a very

[01:48:28] [SPEAKER_04]: over the top, very selfish way of doing it.

[01:48:32] [SPEAKER_04]: He understood what a team was.

[01:48:35] [SPEAKER_04]: He like when he went up to Will, it's like you are the

[01:48:39] [SPEAKER_04]: kid men.

[01:48:40] [SPEAKER_04]: You are the most important person on this team.

[01:48:43] [SPEAKER_04]: And I see you for who you are some bullshit, right?

[01:48:47] [SPEAKER_04]: But everything that he said was perfect.

[01:48:51] [SPEAKER_04]: It's just when he went on the field,

[01:48:53] [SPEAKER_04]: he was completely different and a complete asshole.

[01:48:57] [SPEAKER_04]: And he didn't mean anything that he said, right?

[01:49:00] [SPEAKER_04]: But Jamie looked at those words and he's

[01:49:02] [SPEAKER_04]: and I think Jamie was just like, wow, what if somebody

[01:49:05] [SPEAKER_04]: really backed up the words?

[01:49:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[01:49:09] [SPEAKER_04]: So I think that maybe Zava had this weird effect over

[01:49:13] [SPEAKER_04]: Jamie as like, wow, I really like what you're saying.

[01:49:18] [SPEAKER_04]: I kind of want to also do what you're saying because

[01:49:21] [SPEAKER_04]: you seem to not be.

[01:49:24] [SPEAKER_08]: What you're doing is just saying gibberish.

[01:49:27] [SPEAKER_08]: Like I'm going to actually do what you're saying.

[01:49:30] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to walk that walk that you're talking.

[01:49:32] [SPEAKER_04]: So I think that Zava actually had a significant positive role

[01:49:38] [SPEAKER_04]: in Jamie's emergence as a true teammate and leader.

[01:49:43] [SPEAKER_04]: So him holding that avocado, I love the fact that he's

[01:49:47] [SPEAKER_04]: the one that held the avocado.

[01:49:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[01:49:49] [SPEAKER_04]: I love the fact that he's just like, oh my gosh,

[01:49:52] [SPEAKER_04]: like he was one of the boys in that moment.

[01:49:54] [SPEAKER_04]: He's like, look at this thing.

[01:49:56] Yeah.

[01:49:57] [SPEAKER_09]: It's like, oh, this douchebag is sending us something.

[01:50:00] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, look at this thing.

[01:50:02] [SPEAKER_09]: Right.

[01:50:03] [SPEAKER_09]: Like it doesn't matter anymore.

[01:50:04] [SPEAKER_04]: It's still Jamie Tartt because Jamie Tartt's like,

[01:50:06] [SPEAKER_04]: oh, what is this douchebag saying again?

[01:50:08] [SPEAKER_04]: And then he's like, oh, wait, wow, I really like that.

[01:50:11] [SPEAKER_04]: That sounds good.

[01:50:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Wait, what are you doing?

[01:50:13] [SPEAKER_04]: That's totally opposite of what you just said.

[01:50:15] [SPEAKER_04]: What Zava knew, you know?

[01:50:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[01:50:19] [SPEAKER_08]: I also like the fact too that Danny apologizes to Van Dam

[01:50:26] [SPEAKER_08]: by giving him the mask, you know, this new face guard,

[01:50:31] [SPEAKER_08]: which isn't clear, ugly.

[01:50:33] [SPEAKER_08]: It's this really cool, sleek looking Zorro looking mask.

[01:50:38] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[01:50:38] [SPEAKER_08]: And he goes back to his—it causes Zorro to go back

[01:50:42] [SPEAKER_08]: to his actual given name, but pronounce it Zorro

[01:50:47] [SPEAKER_08]: like the superhero.

[01:50:50] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm sorry for destroying your faith.

[01:50:55] [SPEAKER_08]: And I love that when the announcers are talking about it too

[01:50:58] [SPEAKER_08]: and they're saying Van Dam and he's like,

[01:51:00] [SPEAKER_08]: actually, I believe he wants to be called Zorro now

[01:51:04] [SPEAKER_08]: and he's like, well, it's about time.

[01:51:06] [SPEAKER_04]: It's about time.

[01:51:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, totally.

[01:51:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Totally, totally.

[01:51:10] [SPEAKER_08]: You know what?

[01:51:10] [SPEAKER_08]: And it's weird because it goes right along with the point

[01:51:12] [SPEAKER_08]: that you made earlier of acceptance is that

[01:51:16] [SPEAKER_08]: he doesn't have to pretend to be somebody else.

[01:51:18] [SPEAKER_08]: Like now he has this mask, he is Zorro.

[01:51:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Excuse me, after last week's game,

[01:51:23] [SPEAKER_04]: he could be called whatever he wants.

[01:51:25] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, exactly.

[01:51:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Whatever he wants.

[01:51:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Holy cow.

[01:51:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, even in this game—well, no, not this game,

[01:51:31] [SPEAKER_08]: not so much this game.

[01:51:32] [SPEAKER_04]: That was Hall of Fame game status right there.

[01:51:36] [SPEAKER_08]: Brick wall.

[01:51:37] [SPEAKER_09]: Uh-huh.

[01:51:38] [SPEAKER_09]: Last—

[01:51:39] [SPEAKER_04]: I realized that this is a fictional game,

[01:51:41] [SPEAKER_04]: but holy shit, that was an epic game.

[01:51:46] [SPEAKER_08]: It was a fictional game,

[01:51:47] [SPEAKER_08]: but we talked about this last week,

[01:51:49] [SPEAKER_08]: and this week was the same exact thing.

[01:51:51] [SPEAKER_08]: Even though we know what's going to happen,

[01:51:53] [SPEAKER_08]: we still cheer and root for this team.

[01:51:55] [SPEAKER_04]: I was standing up with my hands in the air.

[01:51:59] [SPEAKER_04]: I was nervous.

[01:52:00] [SPEAKER_04]: I was—I was a fan.

[01:52:01] [SPEAKER_04]: I was a rich man fan during this game.

[01:52:03] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[01:52:04] [SPEAKER_08]: When they won this game, I fucking cried.

[01:52:09] [SPEAKER_08]: Like, I'm no lie.

[01:52:12] [SPEAKER_08]: I cried when they—I cried.

[01:52:14] [SPEAKER_08]: I've watched them win this game three or four times already.

[01:52:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[01:52:19] [SPEAKER_08]: I still cried when they won this game.

[01:52:21] [SPEAKER_04]: No, I always been the crier out of the two of us,

[01:52:23] [SPEAKER_04]: and you are like really showing me up in this episode,

[01:52:27] [SPEAKER_04]: because I cried once.

[01:52:30] [SPEAKER_08]: Oh no.

[01:52:31] [SPEAKER_08]: I cried one, two, three, five times.

[01:52:39] [SPEAKER_08]: No, one, two, four times in this episode.

[01:52:45] [SPEAKER_08]: But yeah, so we see this team is going out and playing,

[01:52:50] [SPEAKER_08]: and they're struggling—even though they're playing well.

[01:52:53] [SPEAKER_08]: They're playing total football.

[01:52:55] [SPEAKER_08]: Jamie is the center person.

[01:52:57] [SPEAKER_08]: He is the cog in this machine.

[01:53:01] [SPEAKER_08]: They're all playing around Jamie.

[01:53:02] [SPEAKER_08]: They're playing well, but they're just not playing good enough.

[01:53:05] [SPEAKER_08]: West Ham is up on them too by going into halftime.

[01:53:10] [SPEAKER_08]: But before we get into halftime in this game,

[01:53:13] [SPEAKER_08]: two in the second half, we also see—

[01:53:17] [SPEAKER_08]: and we talked a little bit about this,

[01:53:18] [SPEAKER_08]: and now we'll kind of mention it too—

[01:53:21] [SPEAKER_08]: we see Michelle, Henry, and Jacob watching from home.

[01:53:29] [SPEAKER_08]: And I think Michelle has always—

[01:53:33] [SPEAKER_08]: I think by this point Michelle has had it that this is not a forever thing.

[01:53:37] [SPEAKER_08]: There was obviously tension when they came back from Paris.

[01:53:41] [SPEAKER_08]: We talked about that.

[01:53:43] [SPEAKER_08]: They're all sitting there, and Jacob is just kind of not taking this game seriously.

[01:53:51] [SPEAKER_08]: He's like, oh, you know, 90 minutes of them just ending zero to zero.

[01:53:55] [SPEAKER_08]: Like, he's not taking it seriously.

[01:53:59] [SPEAKER_08]: But I love that throughout the course of this game.

[01:54:04] [SPEAKER_08]: Not only is he paying less and less attention,

[01:54:07] [SPEAKER_08]: he's moving further and further away from Henry and Michelle

[01:54:12] [SPEAKER_08]: to the point where by the time they win this game,

[01:54:15] [SPEAKER_08]: he's sitting in the back of the room on his phone.

[01:54:19] [SPEAKER_04]: I love it.

[01:54:21] [SPEAKER_04]: I love it so much.

[01:54:22] [SPEAKER_04]: But you know what I also think?

[01:54:23] [SPEAKER_04]: I think that they probably started watching Ted's games with Michelle

[01:54:29] [SPEAKER_04]: hate watching with Jacob because she was so mad at Ted during that.

[01:54:35] [SPEAKER_04]: And maybe, you know, Michelle has changed.

[01:54:39] [SPEAKER_04]: And now that— you know what I mean?

[01:54:42] [SPEAKER_04]: And again, not changed, right?

[01:54:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Because Michelle and Jacob, I don't think either of them changed.

[01:54:48] [SPEAKER_04]: They both accepted who they really are.

[01:54:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Jacob is an unethical psychologist that needs his license taken away

[01:54:57] [SPEAKER_04]: and to go live in a dirt cave for the rest of his effing life.

[01:55:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Michelle realizes— this is my opinion, of course—

[01:55:05] [SPEAKER_04]: realizes that her family is Ted and Henry.

[01:55:09] [SPEAKER_04]: And Henry is in love with his father.

[01:55:12] [SPEAKER_04]: And she genuinely wants Ted to succeed.

[01:55:16] [SPEAKER_04]: She genuinely loves this team.

[01:55:18] [SPEAKER_04]: And I think that during this game, she really sees the difference between Ted and Jacob.

[01:55:25] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, what do you think?

[01:55:29] [SPEAKER_08]: So I— to an earlier point that you mentioned,

[01:55:34] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't know if Michelle ever hate watched the game.

[01:55:39] [SPEAKER_08]: I think she watched it with Henry because she wanted to help Henry support her father,

[01:55:44] [SPEAKER_08]: but I think— support his father.

[01:55:45] [SPEAKER_08]: But I think by this point, she is also very much rooting for this—

[01:55:50] [SPEAKER_08]: for this team, not just for Henry, but for Ted.

[01:55:54] [SPEAKER_08]: I think she— I think she always watched this— this game with Henry,

[01:55:58] [SPEAKER_08]: and she supported the team for Henry.

[01:56:01] [SPEAKER_08]: But now I think she's supporting the— the team for Henry and Ted.

[01:56:05] [SPEAKER_04]: You said that exactly the way that I felt it.

[01:56:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you so much because I could not rearrange the words correctly.

[01:56:12] [SPEAKER_08]: Very good.

[01:56:13] [SPEAKER_08]: Thank you.

[01:56:13] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, yeah.

[01:56:14] [SPEAKER_08]: Not a problem.

[01:56:14] [SPEAKER_08]: Glad to be of assistance.

[01:56:17] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, like I think— like she's now supporting the team for more than just Henry.

[01:56:21] [SPEAKER_08]: She's supporting the team for Ted because you're right.

[01:56:24] [SPEAKER_08]: I think she has realized— she has accepted what— what she needs and it's not Jacob.

[01:56:32] [SPEAKER_08]: And I think there's even a point too, like Jacob and Henry even realize—

[01:56:37] [SPEAKER_08]: or not Jacob and Henry.

[01:56:38] [SPEAKER_08]: Henry and Michelle even kind of realized this even at the beginning

[01:56:42] [SPEAKER_08]: because when he makes that comment, there's a very, very quick scene where Henry—

[01:56:47] [SPEAKER_08]: where Henry and Michelle just kind of look at each other like, okay.

[01:56:52] [SPEAKER_08]: Like they scoff at each other at what Jacob just said.

[01:56:56] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, because he's being a jerk.

[01:56:58] [SPEAKER_08]: He's being an arrogant ass.

[01:57:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and really I mean have the feelings that you want about Ted and football and whatever,

[01:57:10] [SPEAKER_04]: but there's a kid in the room and not only is it a kid, it's the head coach's kid.

[01:57:17] [SPEAKER_04]: It's your girlfriend's— it's your girlfriend's father of her child, right?

[01:57:25] [SPEAKER_04]: Like show some freaking class and respect.

[01:57:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[01:57:30] [SPEAKER_04]: But he's never had class or respect because he was doing his patient and broke up his patient's

[01:57:37] [SPEAKER_04]: marriage.

[01:57:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I mean and that's— I think that's just—

[01:57:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Make them do what Jacob's going to do.

[01:57:43] [SPEAKER_08]: And I think that's just that too.

[01:57:44] [SPEAKER_08]: I think in the same way that Rupert has lost his power over Rebecca and the team and George,

[01:57:51] [SPEAKER_08]: Jacob has lost his power over— wow, that felt weird saying Jacob again, took me back to lost.

[01:57:56] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[01:57:57] [SPEAKER_08]: Jacob has lost his power over Michelle because his power was always putting Ted down.

[01:58:05] [SPEAKER_08]: That's right.

[01:58:06] [SPEAKER_08]: And Michelle doesn't see Ted in a negative way anymore.

[01:58:10] [SPEAKER_08]: No, she does not.

[01:58:10] [SPEAKER_08]: She sees— she sees Ted is getting what he needs and is becoming the person he needed to be through this.

[01:58:18] [SPEAKER_08]: That she's always known was there.

[01:58:20] [SPEAKER_08]: And Ted needed to realize it.

[01:58:23] [SPEAKER_08]: She sees that he knows it now.

[01:58:25] [SPEAKER_08]: She probably also knows that he is coming home at this point because I'm sure

[01:58:30] [SPEAKER_08]: he has told Henry he's coming home.

[01:58:33] [SPEAKER_08]: So she knows he's coming home.

[01:58:35] [SPEAKER_08]: And Jacob has lost all his power over Michelle because he can't put him down anymore.

[01:58:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Which is probably why he is as flippant and as he is.

[01:58:47] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, he just— and it's why by the end of this he's just in the background

[01:58:53] [SPEAKER_08]: because that's all he is now.

[01:58:55] [SPEAKER_08]: He's back—

[01:58:56] [SPEAKER_08]: Love it.

[01:58:56] [SPEAKER_08]: Good.

[01:58:57] [SPEAKER_08]: He should be completely out.

[01:58:58] [SPEAKER_08]: It's so well— it's so well done.

[01:59:00] [SPEAKER_08]: It's incredibly well done.

[01:59:03] [SPEAKER_04]: So I do want to say, since we're on the game, while we were talking during this time,

[01:59:12] [SPEAKER_04]: I did look up why Rupert was limping.

[01:59:16] [SPEAKER_04]: And it turns out that the actor had lost a significant amount of weight between

[01:59:22] [SPEAKER_04]: seasons two and three.

[01:59:24] [SPEAKER_04]: And he had developed like a limp as a result and they tried to cover it or work with it

[01:59:33] [SPEAKER_04]: as much as they could throughout season three.

[01:59:35] [SPEAKER_08]: So I was right.

[01:59:37] [SPEAKER_08]: It had to do with Anthony Head.

[01:59:38] [SPEAKER_08]: It didn't have anything to do with Rupert.

[01:59:40] [SPEAKER_08]: Yes, yes.

[01:59:41] [SPEAKER_04]: But they tried to make— they tried to involve it into Rupert's story.

[01:59:46] [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, it was— it was Anthony Head.

[01:59:48] [SPEAKER_08]: Okay.

[01:59:49] [SPEAKER_08]: It was the actor that had the limp, not the character.

[01:59:53] [SPEAKER_08]: Correct.

[01:59:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, so I was right.

[01:59:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, that's good.

[01:59:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Some kind of extreme— some kind of extreme weight loss between seasons.

[01:59:59] [SPEAKER_08]: I wonder if it was for a different project.

[02:00:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Or maybe he was sick.

[02:00:03] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, that could be it too.

[02:00:05] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't know.

[02:00:07] [SPEAKER_08]: All right, so I talked about the Zava Care package and Danny's Apology.

[02:00:12] [SPEAKER_08]: And we talked about the first half of the game

[02:00:15] [SPEAKER_08]: and Jacob falling into the background.

[02:00:17] [SPEAKER_08]: So do we want to talk about the second half of the game

[02:00:23] [SPEAKER_08]: and then half time or half time and then the second half of the game?

[02:00:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I don't care.

[02:00:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[02:00:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I'm just excited.

[02:00:31] [SPEAKER_08]: Let's just— okay, let's just go in order

[02:00:35] [SPEAKER_08]: and we're going to talk about half time.

[02:00:40] [SPEAKER_08]: I— so the first time I watched this finale,

[02:00:45] [SPEAKER_08]: every other time, every other episode,

[02:00:47] [SPEAKER_08]: I would watch it the next day.

[02:00:49] [SPEAKER_08]: But the finale was so important to me to see that I purposely stayed up until 3 a.m.

[02:00:56] [SPEAKER_08]: to watch this finale.

[02:00:58] [SPEAKER_08]: I watched it the minute it dropped and I was watching it—

[02:01:02] [SPEAKER_08]: my mom actually happened to be here spending the night.

[02:01:07] [SPEAKER_08]: And she was already in bed and I didn't want to be out here—

[02:01:11] [SPEAKER_08]: in my— I didn't want to be out in my living room watching it

[02:01:14] [SPEAKER_08]: in case I was like fucking balling because I knew I would.

[02:01:17] [SPEAKER_08]: So I watched it in my bedroom and like—

[02:01:20] [SPEAKER_08]: I remember watching it and I was holding it together throughout the course of this entire

[02:01:28] [SPEAKER_08]: episode.

[02:01:30] [SPEAKER_08]: And then there is one moment in this episode that I lost it.

[02:01:38] [SPEAKER_08]: I was audibly sobbing, trying to catch my breath and no lie.

[02:01:46] [SPEAKER_08]: It happens every time I watch it.

[02:01:48] [SPEAKER_08]: It happened last night and it happened today.

[02:01:51] [SPEAKER_08]: And it will probably happen the more I go forward.

[02:01:55] [SPEAKER_08]: We get this whole speech of Ted saying how much this team means to him

[02:02:01] [SPEAKER_08]: and how proud he is to have watched them grown from the people that they were

[02:02:05] [SPEAKER_08]: to the people that they've become and how proud he is to be a part of that team.

[02:02:11] [SPEAKER_08]: And then he talks about the second half and not knowing what the future holds

[02:02:14] [SPEAKER_08]: and how we shouldn't live in the future anyway.

[02:02:16] [SPEAKER_08]: We need to live in the moment and go forward.

[02:02:20] [SPEAKER_08]: And then he asks if anybody else has anything else to say.

[02:02:24] [SPEAKER_08]: And of course it's Sam.

[02:02:25] [SPEAKER_08]: And of course it's Sam.

[02:02:26] [SPEAKER_08]: I was just going to say the same thing.

[02:02:29] [SPEAKER_08]: And when Sam turns around and he goes into his locker, I'm fine.

[02:02:34] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm totally fine.

[02:02:35] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm sad because I know this is coming to the end.

[02:02:39] [SPEAKER_08]: But the moment I realized what was in his hand, done.

[02:02:46] [SPEAKER_08]: I was done.

[02:02:48] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[02:02:48] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm trying to hold it back now.

[02:02:51] [SPEAKER_08]: I see that.

[02:02:52] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm thinking about it.

[02:02:53] [SPEAKER_08]: I apologize.

[02:02:56] [SPEAKER_08]: It is because and I realized.

[02:02:59] [SPEAKER_08]: So in that moment how impactful that scene was

[02:03:03] [SPEAKER_08]: that everybody kept the peace of the belief sign.

[02:03:08] [SPEAKER_08]: Everybody held it close to them.

[02:03:10] [SPEAKER_08]: Everybody had it and you pay attention to the places where people take it from.

[02:03:15] [SPEAKER_08]: Jamie takes it from the book that he got from Ted in season one.

[02:03:21] [SPEAKER_08]: That is very weathered.

[02:03:23] [SPEAKER_08]: That he wanted nothing to do with.

[02:03:25] [SPEAKER_08]: That you're right is incredibly weathered,

[02:03:28] [SPEAKER_08]: meaning he has read this multiple times.

[02:03:30] [SPEAKER_08]: Multiple times.

[02:03:32] [SPEAKER_08]: At this point.

[02:03:35] [SPEAKER_08]: And it's.

[02:03:36] [SPEAKER_08]: Macadoo keeps it.

[02:03:37] [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, it's the beautiful and the damned by F. Scott Fitzgerald is the book that he gave to Jamie.

[02:03:43] [SPEAKER_08]: And that's where he pulls it from.

[02:03:45] [SPEAKER_08]: Macadoo pulls it from the captain's band.

[02:03:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, he does.

[02:03:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Where does where does Sam pull it from?

[02:03:51] [SPEAKER_08]: From the picture of the Nigerian team.

[02:03:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Correct.

[02:03:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Yep.

[02:03:55] [SPEAKER_08]: Everybody has kept a piece of this.

[02:03:57] [SPEAKER_04]: How and put it in a shingard.

[02:03:59] [SPEAKER_08]: Yes.

[02:04:00] [SPEAKER_08]: Yes.

[02:04:01] [SPEAKER_08]: And we see like Montcloak pulls it from the bottle that he kept with him.

[02:04:07] [SPEAKER_08]: We see like we don't see where everybody pulls it from,

[02:04:09] [SPEAKER_08]: but we know just from the couple that we see these guys have kept a piece of this sign

[02:04:16] [SPEAKER_08]: and they have kept it somewhere important.

[02:04:18] [SPEAKER_08]: They've kept it in a spot that means something to them.

[02:04:23] [SPEAKER_08]: And like that scene was impactful then, then, but upon rewatching it,

[02:04:31] [SPEAKER_08]: the scene became more impactful because I realized that not only did every one of them

[02:04:38] [SPEAKER_08]: keep a piece of this sign.

[02:04:40] [SPEAKER_08]: It wasn't like they tore it up and everybody kept a piece.

[02:04:45] [SPEAKER_08]: Every piece was there in the end.

[02:04:50] [SPEAKER_04]: It all fit packed together.

[02:04:52] [SPEAKER_08]: It all fit completely back together.

[02:04:55] [SPEAKER_08]: So when they put it together, they realized in that moment

[02:05:01] [SPEAKER_08]: that team had every piece of what they needed.

[02:05:05] [SPEAKER_08]: They just needed to make it whole.

[02:05:10] [SPEAKER_09]: You should talk now because I'm not going to be able to.

[02:05:13] [SPEAKER_04]: I think that Nate was that final piece because he was the outlying

[02:05:23] [SPEAKER_04]: unresolved business of the team and with him coming back,

[02:05:28] [SPEAKER_04]: and him coming back not as coach and not as kitman, as assistant to the kitman.

[02:05:36] [SPEAKER_04]: It was still the final piece of the puzzle.

[02:05:38] [SPEAKER_04]: He was still coming home and everything seems to have fallen in place as a result.

[02:05:45] [SPEAKER_04]: The diamond dogs are whole again.

[02:05:47] [SPEAKER_04]: The locker room is light again.

[02:05:48] [SPEAKER_04]: The believe sign is being put back together.

[02:05:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Healing has finally occurred.

[02:05:56] [SPEAKER_04]: We see that with the believe sign and we see that with Ted and Nate looking at each other

[02:06:01] [SPEAKER_04]: over the players as they put it back together, which is a beautiful moment.

[02:06:07] [SPEAKER_04]: It's really I think the overlying theme and point of the whole show itself is that

[02:06:15] [SPEAKER_04]: we can heal. People can heal us and we need to rely on the people that we love.

[02:06:23] [SPEAKER_04]: We need to rely on the kindness of others.

[02:06:25] [SPEAKER_04]: We need to forgive each other of our transgressions.

[02:06:27] [SPEAKER_04]: We need to allow space in our lives for mercy and forgiveness.

[02:06:34] [SPEAKER_04]: And if we can do that, we can heal.

[02:06:39] [SPEAKER_08]: I love that you brought up the whole fact that Ted and Nate are looking over

[02:06:45] [SPEAKER_08]: the huddle at each other almost as if they're saying to each other silently,

[02:06:49] [SPEAKER_08]: see like this never mattered.

[02:06:52] [SPEAKER_08]: Never mattered.

[02:06:53] [SPEAKER_08]: It never mattered. Everything is fine.

[02:06:58] [SPEAKER_08]: And I love that once the sign is back together,

[02:07:01] [SPEAKER_08]: the first thing that Ted says and there it is number four.

[02:07:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Number four.

[02:07:07] [SPEAKER_08]: Belief was the fourth pillar of total football.

[02:07:11] [SPEAKER_08]: And because it was always a mystery and everybody was guessing what this fourth pillar was.

[02:07:16] [SPEAKER_08]: And Ted, oh, I think Ted always knew what it was.

[02:07:20] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't think so.

[02:07:22] [SPEAKER_08]: You don't think so?

[02:07:23] [SPEAKER_04]: I think he was really saying it's got to, it had to be something natural.

[02:07:29] [SPEAKER_04]: It had to come out of whatever they were doing.

[02:07:31] [SPEAKER_04]: And isn't it great that it ended up being believe, right?

[02:07:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[02:07:36] [SPEAKER_09]: A full circle.

[02:07:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[02:07:39] [SPEAKER_04]: But I think it really could have been anything.

[02:07:43] [SPEAKER_04]: And you know what?

[02:07:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Or it could have been anything and it also couldn't have been anything else.

[02:07:48] [SPEAKER_08]: And it kind of goes back to another speech that Ted gives that is very meaningful to me.

[02:07:54] [SPEAKER_08]: And it is one that hit me very hard.

[02:07:56] [SPEAKER_08]: We talked about it when we got to it too.

[02:07:58] [SPEAKER_08]: And I can't remember if it was season two or season three.

[02:08:01] [SPEAKER_08]: I think it's the season.

[02:08:03] [SPEAKER_08]: Or no, season two because it's him addressing the anxiety attacks.

[02:08:08] [SPEAKER_08]: And you know, he states like what belief really is.

[02:08:12] [SPEAKER_08]: And I'll kind of go back to that speech for a second.

[02:08:14] [SPEAKER_08]: The belief that I matter, regardless of what I do or don't achieve,

[02:08:20] [SPEAKER_08]: the belief we all deserve to be loved and the belief of hope that things can get better,

[02:08:25] [SPEAKER_08]: that I can get better.

[02:08:27] [SPEAKER_08]: Like that speech still slaps to me.

[02:08:30] [SPEAKER_08]: I hate using that term, but it's what the young ins say.

[02:08:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Excuse me.

[02:08:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Sometimes it's the right word for the situation.

[02:08:38] [SPEAKER_08]: And it is like that.

[02:08:39] [SPEAKER_04]: I've had food that slaps.

[02:08:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[02:08:43] [SPEAKER_08]: But yeah.

[02:08:44] [SPEAKER_08]: So maybe you're right.

[02:08:44] [SPEAKER_08]: Maybe Ted didn't know that belief.

[02:08:46] [SPEAKER_08]: Maybe he was still searching for it too.

[02:08:50] [SPEAKER_08]: And that's why he never revealed what it was.

[02:08:52] [SPEAKER_08]: And in that, you know what?

[02:08:54] [SPEAKER_08]: I like that because that means in that moment,

[02:08:57] [SPEAKER_08]: they all realized what the fourth pillar was together.

[02:09:00] [SPEAKER_04]: All together.

[02:09:01] [SPEAKER_04]: And you know what?

[02:09:02] [SPEAKER_04]: That's also the fourth pillar is relying on each other.

[02:09:07] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't want to say hive mind because I think that they're all individuals in their own right

[02:09:13] [SPEAKER_04]: and they're all beautiful individuals in their own right.

[02:09:16] [SPEAKER_04]: But when they are a team, they do become that hive mind.

[02:09:21] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[02:09:21] [SPEAKER_04]: But for good, not for like Stranger Things, Vecna, but you know, for good.

[02:09:27] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[02:09:28] [SPEAKER_08]: And then we get the final huddle.

[02:09:33] [SPEAKER_08]: Everybody's arms in and I mean everybody's arms.

[02:09:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Did you see Nate's desperation to get his hand in there?

[02:09:41] [SPEAKER_08]: He wanted his hand in there.

[02:09:43] [SPEAKER_08]: He's next to Will who's hands in there.

[02:09:45] [SPEAKER_08]: Trent's hand is in there.

[02:09:47] [SPEAKER_08]: They are all in that huddle.

[02:09:50] [SPEAKER_08]: And I love Ted's line of, you know, they say there's no place like home

[02:09:57] [SPEAKER_08]: and that's true.

[02:09:58] [SPEAKER_08]: But man, there ain't a whole lot of places like AFC Richmond.

[02:10:02] [SPEAKER_04]: And that's true too.

[02:10:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[02:10:05] [SPEAKER_04]: To be a part of something that beautiful.

[02:10:07] [SPEAKER_04]: So I do want to talk about that for a second.

[02:10:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Is it okay?

[02:10:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, go for it.

[02:10:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Because they have this written down somewhere.

[02:10:16] [SPEAKER_04]: So there are few things in our lives that we can actually say have profoundly affected us

[02:10:25] [SPEAKER_04]: much like what has happened with Ted and with Richmond.

[02:10:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Obviously, Ted coming in, that whole team has become something truly special that you'll never

[02:10:39] [SPEAKER_04]: see again probably right in your life.

[02:10:42] [SPEAKER_04]: And like those players will never probably have a time like that in their life again,

[02:10:46] [SPEAKER_04]: professionally, personally, whatever.

[02:10:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Right?

[02:10:50] [SPEAKER_04]: You know what it reminded me of?

[02:10:53] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know how many people who are listening are of this group.

[02:10:59] [SPEAKER_04]: But the early days of the podcast at Kazza, we had this amazing bond and we were so close.

[02:11:09] [SPEAKER_04]: And it was truly one of the best times in my personal life where I felt accepted

[02:11:17] [SPEAKER_04]: and I felt loved and I felt fun and that I mattered.

[02:11:23] [SPEAKER_04]: And that really mattered to me.

[02:11:26] [SPEAKER_04]: And I look back on the, and podcastica ZED Head Group has become what it has become.

[02:11:33] [SPEAKER_04]: It's multifaceted.

[02:11:34] [SPEAKER_04]: There's a million people in it.

[02:11:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Everybody has got whatever.

[02:11:38] [SPEAKER_04]: I haven't been as involved in it in years past.

[02:11:41] [SPEAKER_08]: Me neither.

[02:11:43] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[02:11:43] [SPEAKER_04]: But those first few years are some of the best times I've ever had in my life.

[02:11:52] [SPEAKER_04]: And I've gotten some of the best friends I've ever had in my life and you're one of them,

[02:11:57] [SPEAKER_04]: obviously.

[02:11:59] [SPEAKER_04]: And there's just nothing that you can really say about a time like that,

[02:12:07] [SPEAKER_04]: whether it's the Richmond Way or our early ZED Head times, unless you've experienced it.

[02:12:15] [SPEAKER_04]: And everybody has that in their life.

[02:12:17] [SPEAKER_04]: And that was truly a magical time for me.

[02:12:19] [SPEAKER_04]: So it was nice to spend this episode thinking about what an amazing time

[02:12:27] [SPEAKER_04]: that this team is in and I got the chance to reflect on a very similar experience in my life.

[02:12:34] [SPEAKER_04]: And it just made me happy and made me joyful.

[02:12:37] [SPEAKER_08]: That's a great analogy too, because you're right.

[02:12:40] [SPEAKER_08]: And because I was part of that whole thing too.

[02:12:44] [SPEAKER_08]: And no to any ZED heads that are listening right now, whether you're listening from podcastica

[02:12:49] [SPEAKER_08]: or you're listening on the Wilhelm side or you just found us by happenstance.

[02:12:52] [SPEAKER_08]: If you are in that ZED Head Group, absolutely no disrespect to anybody from ZED heads

[02:13:00] [SPEAKER_08]: or podcastica that are listening.

[02:13:02] [SPEAKER_04]: That came 2020 after.

[02:13:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, because look, I'm talking about pre-pandemic ZED Head Group.

[02:13:09] [SPEAKER_08]: Even before, like a little ways before pre-pandemic.

[02:13:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but if we were to put a stamp on it, I guess.

[02:13:17] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. But yeah, so you're right.

[02:13:22] [SPEAKER_08]: I love what podcastica has become now because of what it means to Jason

[02:13:27] [SPEAKER_08]: and the success for Jason and the other podcasts that are part of it.

[02:13:32] [SPEAKER_08]: But you're right when podcastica going back towards the beginning of that,

[02:13:37] [SPEAKER_08]: like we deemed ZED heads.

[02:13:39] [SPEAKER_08]: We were the ones that named the ZED heads.

[02:13:42] [SPEAKER_08]: We came up with the name ZED Head, I believe.

[02:13:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, Jason did in the early days.

[02:13:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's always been his word.

[02:13:52] [SPEAKER_08]: But we're the we're part of the OG.

[02:13:56] [SPEAKER_04]: It's not it's not even that.

[02:13:57] [SPEAKER_04]: It's just anybody that experienced it knows what I'm talking about.

[02:14:03] [SPEAKER_04]: There was just a magic quality to it.

[02:14:07] [SPEAKER_04]: And I feel, excuse me.

[02:14:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Bless you.

[02:14:11] [SPEAKER_04]: And I feel so sorry.

[02:14:18] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to try this again.

[02:14:19] [SPEAKER_08]: You're allergic to what you're about to say.

[02:14:21] [SPEAKER_04]: I know. And I feel that that is what we see in the final

[02:14:29] [SPEAKER_04]: season of.

[02:14:30] [SPEAKER_08]: OK, that's enough.

[02:14:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Last. So I'm done.

[02:14:32] [SPEAKER_04]: I got to be done.

[02:14:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Anyways, I just that was something that I wrote it down.

[02:14:38] [SPEAKER_04]: I wanted to be able to talk about it because it was something it was

[02:14:41] [SPEAKER_04]: the moment that I had watching the episode earlier.

[02:14:44] [SPEAKER_08]: And I love it because I can definitely relate to that because I went through that as well.

[02:14:49] [SPEAKER_08]: So that is why you and I became friends.

[02:14:51] [SPEAKER_08]: And you know, it's why like Jill has become a great friend to both of us.

[02:14:57] [SPEAKER_08]: And yeah, there's just it's you're right.

[02:14:59] [SPEAKER_08]: It's I love that analogy.

[02:15:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Thanks.

[02:15:03] [SPEAKER_08]: And then after all of that magic that happens during the half time,

[02:15:08] [SPEAKER_08]: we move into the second half of the game, AFC Richmond down to nothing.

[02:15:14] [SPEAKER_08]: And what happens?

[02:15:16] [SPEAKER_08]: We get a bunch of magic that happens on the field.

[02:15:23] [SPEAKER_08]: We get, you know, we finally get a goal from I believe Colin is the one that scores the first goal.

[02:15:32] [SPEAKER_08]: Is it?

[02:15:33] [SPEAKER_08]: No, it was Jamie.

[02:15:34] [SPEAKER_08]: Jamie, sorry.

[02:15:35] [SPEAKER_08]: Colin made the first attempt and then sorry for those of you listening.

[02:15:42] [SPEAKER_08]: Kristen's cat is on the table and just knocked over her microphone.

[02:15:47] [SPEAKER_04]: He thinks I'm done.

[02:15:49] [SPEAKER_08]: No, Jamie is the one after multiple attempts.

[02:15:52] [SPEAKER_08]: Jamie is the one that finally gets the goal into the net.

[02:15:56] [SPEAKER_08]: You know, and then we get another moment where Jamie takes the penalty, fakes it professionally,

[02:16:01] [SPEAKER_08]: like fakes it very well to take the penalty.

[02:16:04] [SPEAKER_08]: And I love this moment because Jamie is the one that takes the penalty,

[02:16:10] [SPEAKER_08]: but he hands the ball to Danny because he knows he's done it before.

[02:16:14] [SPEAKER_08]: He's given the ball to Danny because, you know, like Danny needed that confidence.

[02:16:20] [SPEAKER_08]: He needed to know he still had it.

[02:16:23] [SPEAKER_08]: Like he needed to know football is like, and he wasn't going to kill a dog.

[02:16:27] [SPEAKER_08]: And then Danny like just looks at the ball and he hands it to Isaac.

[02:16:33] [SPEAKER_08]: And I love that because I feel like in that moment, everybody on that team has full confidence

[02:16:43] [SPEAKER_08]: in Isaac. Otherwise they wouldn't have given him the ball.

[02:16:46] [SPEAKER_08]: He has never taken a penalty shot in his entire career, never taken a penalty shot.

[02:16:53] [SPEAKER_08]: If anything, he is a wild man when it comes to kicks,

[02:16:59] [SPEAKER_08]: but the team had such confidence in Isaac that Danny giving the ball to Isaac was

[02:17:06] [SPEAKER_08]: Danny saying you need to have confidence in yourself.

[02:17:10] [SPEAKER_08]: You need to have this confidence in yourself that we have in you.

[02:17:15] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[02:17:16] [SPEAKER_08]: It's the handoff of confidence.

[02:17:18] [SPEAKER_08]: Jamie did it to Danny early.

[02:17:21] [SPEAKER_08]: Danny now does it to Isaac.

[02:17:24] [SPEAKER_08]: I love it.

[02:17:25] [SPEAKER_08]: And I love the fact that he hits this ball and they make you believe he went over the net because that's what he does.

[02:17:34] [SPEAKER_08]: No, he kicked it so hard.

[02:17:38] [SPEAKER_08]: It went through the net.

[02:17:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Heck yeah, it did.

[02:17:43] [SPEAKER_08]: And Barbara got her blood.

[02:17:45] [SPEAKER_08]: And who does it hit square in the face?

[02:17:49] [SPEAKER_08]: The wanker.

[02:17:50] [SPEAKER_08]: John Wings Knight.

[02:17:51] [SPEAKER_08]: The wanker.

[02:17:52] [SPEAKER_08]: The original wanker.

[02:17:55] [SPEAKER_08]: John Wings Knight gets hit square in the face and it knocks him into becoming a full-blown Richmond fan.

[02:18:04] [SPEAKER_04]: He, yep, forever.

[02:18:08] [SPEAKER_08]: Because he is just standing up holding that Richmond scarf screaming for Richmond blood streaming down his face.

[02:18:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Amazing.

[02:18:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely amazing.

[02:18:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you know what? He's just wearing a Richmond scarf.

[02:18:22] [SPEAKER_04]: He's not wearing his ridiculous half and half scarf that he used to have.

[02:18:28] [SPEAKER_04]: So good for him for making a decision.

[02:18:32] [SPEAKER_08]: Which leads us further into it where West Ham scores another goal and Beard and Roy are distraught and Ted just is laughing it off.

[02:18:44] [SPEAKER_08]: And they're like, what are you laughing at? He's like 14 was offside.

[02:18:48] [SPEAKER_08]: A little bit offside.

[02:18:50] [SPEAKER_08]: And that's another callback because in season, well in the pilot, Trent Krim asks Ted, do you know what the offside's role is?

[02:19:01] [SPEAKER_08]: And Ted has no idea.

[02:19:04] [SPEAKER_08]: He's finally learned what it means and recognizes it even before Beard and Ted do or Ted, Beard and Roy do.

[02:19:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Beard and Roy, yeah.

[02:19:16] [SPEAKER_04]: And then, yeah, because then it's called for offside.

[02:19:20] [SPEAKER_04]: That's hilarious. I love that moment.

[02:19:23] [SPEAKER_08]: You know, but final moments of the game, they have the ball. They need to figure out what to do.

[02:19:29] [SPEAKER_08]: And you said it earlier, they go with the one play that works and it's Nate's.

[02:19:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Give it to me. I'm open.

[02:19:39] [SPEAKER_08]: I want the ball. Give me the ball.

[02:19:41] [SPEAKER_04]: I want the ball. Give me the ball. Give me the ball.

[02:19:43] [SPEAKER_04]: And he's like totally Ted in that moment. Like you can see Ted.

[02:19:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, that's exactly what Ted does when they're teaching the play.

[02:19:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Another callback.

[02:19:53] [SPEAKER_04]: That is Jamie being the cog, right?

[02:19:56] [SPEAKER_04]: He is officially the cog. He's like, give me the ball. Give me the ball. Give me the ball.

[02:19:59] [SPEAKER_08]: And it shows even more growth too that, you know, in Jamie because like we've seen Jamie be the assist in goals.

[02:20:08] [SPEAKER_08]: This is the first time it's a game winning goal. Jamie hasn't touched it.

[02:20:13] [SPEAKER_08]: No, he's the distraction. Yeah.

[02:20:16] [SPEAKER_08]: And it doesn't bother him at all.

[02:20:19] [SPEAKER_08]: And I love it.

[02:20:20] [SPEAKER_04]: In season one, he didn't want to be the distraction. Remember? He's like, what?

[02:20:23] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to be a distraction.

[02:20:25] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[02:20:25] [SPEAKER_04]: Off, you know.

[02:20:26] [SPEAKER_08]: And now he's like, yeah, make me the distraction.

[02:20:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[02:20:30] [SPEAKER_08]: And, and go ahead.

[02:20:32] [SPEAKER_04]: My favorite. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. All I can see is Ted being like, okay, take the award.

[02:20:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[02:20:38] [SPEAKER_04]: It's heavy. It's heavy. Pretend it's heavy.

[02:20:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[02:20:42] [SPEAKER_04]: And the moment that Sam.

[02:20:43] [SPEAKER_04]: He's frozen over his shoulder. He's frozen over his shoulder.

[02:20:45] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, we don't need this.

[02:20:46] [SPEAKER_04]: We don't need that anymore.

[02:20:50] [SPEAKER_08]: And I, and I, I love like the moment that like Sam and Jamie are like, oh, like they recognize,

[02:20:59] [SPEAKER_08]: remember it.

[02:20:59] [SPEAKER_08]: But again, like that even goes to show you too, like how impactful Ted's coaching is.

[02:21:03] [SPEAKER_08]: This was three years ago.

[02:21:06] [SPEAKER_08]: Lifetimes ago for this team.

[02:21:08] [SPEAKER_08]: And they remember this, like they remember this play because they've never played it.

[02:21:14] [SPEAKER_08]: I need that to be a gift in my life.

[02:21:19] [SPEAKER_08]: It's just, oh, I'm sure it exists.

[02:21:21] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm sure it exists.

[02:21:23] [SPEAKER_08]: But I also love too that in that final moment, once they pass the ball to Sam who's wide open right before you just, it cuts the teddy's barbecue sauce.

[02:21:33] [SPEAKER_08]: Like he knows, he knows before this is even kicked.

[02:21:36] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, this is going in.

[02:21:38] [SPEAKER_08]: This is a bullseye.

[02:21:40] [SPEAKER_08]: Ted just knows it.

[02:21:43] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[02:21:43] [SPEAKER_08]: He calls the shot.

[02:21:46] [SPEAKER_08]: Sam kicks it.

[02:21:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Just like darts.

[02:21:49] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[02:21:50] [SPEAKER_08]: Well, that's the barbecue sauce.

[02:21:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[02:21:52] [SPEAKER_04]: And we'll end his internet password.

[02:21:54] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh yeah, that's true.

[02:21:56] [SPEAKER_09]: Yep.

[02:21:56] [SPEAKER_09]: Barbecue sauce.

[02:21:57] [SPEAKER_04]: The A as a thing.

[02:22:00] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, outside.

[02:22:02] [SPEAKER_08]: And, and Richmond wins the game.

[02:22:06] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[02:22:06] [SPEAKER_08]: And it is such again, like going back to like we became fans of AMC Richmond, like I would I cheered.

[02:22:15] [SPEAKER_08]: I was I was crying happy tears.

[02:22:18] [SPEAKER_08]: Like a stupid fan.

[02:22:20] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, like a stupid fan.

[02:22:23] [SPEAKER_08]: Stupid fan.

[02:22:25] [SPEAKER_08]: Exactly.

[02:22:27] [SPEAKER_08]: And I think one of the other things that added to this was when the fans ran out on the field and we see everybody celebrating.

[02:22:38] [SPEAKER_08]: There's one thing that happens in that celebrating that I talked about a couple episodes ago because of how emotional it made me.

[02:22:45] [SPEAKER_08]: And that is Colin finally gets his moment.

[02:22:48] [SPEAKER_04]: He wants to kiss his fella after winning.

[02:22:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Yep.

[02:22:52] [SPEAKER_04]: And he got to.

[02:22:52] [SPEAKER_08]: He just wants to kiss his fella on the field after winning the game.

[02:22:57] [SPEAKER_08]: And it happened.

[02:22:59] [SPEAKER_08]: He gets he doesn't care.

[02:23:00] [SPEAKER_08]: Doesn't care who sees it.

[02:23:02] [SPEAKER_08]: Doesn't care like what anybody thinks.

[02:23:06] [SPEAKER_08]: He has his moment and it's beautiful and it's happy.

[02:23:12] [SPEAKER_04]: And then we see Ted doing the running man, which is awesome because that also book ended the series.

[02:23:18] [SPEAKER_08]: Yes, it did.

[02:23:20] [SPEAKER_08]: Because we see him doing that in his when they're making they're making fun of him.

[02:23:24] [SPEAKER_08]: Yes, in the season premiere when they see him do that.

[02:23:29] [SPEAKER_08]: And now they're still kind of making fun of him because they're like I don't know what to think when I see a white man doing the running man.

[02:23:38] [SPEAKER_08]: But they're embracing it because this team just won.

[02:23:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[02:23:44] [SPEAKER_08]: You know, and and another one of them.

[02:23:46] [SPEAKER_08]: I feel like I'm hijacking this whole part of the conversation.

[02:23:48] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't care.

[02:23:49] [SPEAKER_08]: Just please go go.

[02:23:51] [SPEAKER_08]: But I and again.

[02:23:53] [SPEAKER_08]: I also love the fact that when we see everybody celebrating, we go to the owner's box and we see Rebecca, Keely and Sassy celebrating as well.

[02:24:06] [SPEAKER_08]: And Keely says to Rebecca, look what you did.

[02:24:11] [SPEAKER_08]: And Rebecca is like, I didn't do this.

[02:24:13] [SPEAKER_08]: And they're like, no, the fuck you did.

[02:24:15] [SPEAKER_08]: Yes, you did.

[02:24:16] [SPEAKER_08]: You did this.

[02:24:18] [SPEAKER_08]: Yep.

[02:24:18] [SPEAKER_08]: She may not have ever intended to have done this, but she did it.

[02:24:25] [SPEAKER_08]: And it's and it's it's wonderful.

[02:24:29] [SPEAKER_08]: I agree.

[02:24:31] [SPEAKER_08]: You know, and I think that's the moment when Rebecca realizes she can't let this go.

[02:24:40] [SPEAKER_08]: Because Keely reminds her.

[02:24:42] [SPEAKER_04]: She is so invested in this team.

[02:24:44] [SPEAKER_04]: This team is a part of her now, whether she wants to admit it or not.

[02:24:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Thank God she finally admits it to herself at the end because she's just lying to herself in the beginning of the episode.

[02:24:55] [SPEAKER_08]: Keely, I mean, and I think that's all part of it is I think when she was ready to sell the team, I think she just never saw herself as more than an owner.

[02:25:03] [SPEAKER_08]: And now like Keely reminds her by saying, like, look what you did.

[02:25:08] [SPEAKER_08]: She's like, yeah, like I had a part in this big part.

[02:25:12] [SPEAKER_08]: I had a huge part in this and I can't let this go.

[02:25:15] [SPEAKER_08]: Right.

[02:25:16] [SPEAKER_08]: You know, if anything, I need to share this.

[02:25:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Mm hmm.

[02:25:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[02:25:21] [SPEAKER_08]: And then we find out in the next scene that, yeah, she sold off 49% of the of the team, but she sold it to the fans.

[02:25:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Mm hmm.

[02:25:31] [SPEAKER_08]: Which is just incredible.

[02:25:34] [SPEAKER_04]: It's really awesome.

[02:25:35] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[02:25:37] [SPEAKER_08]: But that does lead us to the to the next moment and it's another moment that I got emotional at.

[02:25:43] [SPEAKER_08]: I didn't cry, but I got emotional and it's Ted and Rebecca saying goodbye.

[02:25:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Rebecca is wearing the exact same shirt that she wore when she met Ted.

[02:25:55] [SPEAKER_09]: Yes, she is.

[02:25:56] [SPEAKER_09]: I'm glad you picked that up because I saw that too.

[02:26:00] [SPEAKER_04]: And she bought a first class ticket to get beyond security.

[02:26:05] [SPEAKER_08]: She's just like force of habit.

[02:26:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, she's a billionaire.

[02:26:08] [SPEAKER_04]: What are you going to do?

[02:26:08] [SPEAKER_08]: She's a billionaire.

[02:26:09] [SPEAKER_08]: She can afford a first class ticket.

[02:26:11] [SPEAKER_04]: She can go buy the plane.

[02:26:13] [SPEAKER_08]: She probably does at some point, I'm sure.

[02:26:15] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm surprised that she will.

[02:26:17] [SPEAKER_04]: She has a private plane.

[02:26:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Remember Nora was like, don't you?

[02:26:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, that's right.

[02:26:20] [SPEAKER_08]: I think that's right.

[02:26:23] [SPEAKER_08]: That's that's right.

[02:26:26] [SPEAKER_08]: But just like, I feel like it was a perfect way to bookend Ted's story was the was we didn't need to see him say goodbye to the team because he did it.

[02:26:37] [SPEAKER_08]: He did it in the locker room by saying how proud he was of them.

[02:26:40] [SPEAKER_08]: That was his that was his goodbye to everyone else.

[02:26:43] [SPEAKER_08]: His goodbye to beard we talked about already that happens on the plane.

[02:26:48] [SPEAKER_08]: And I do feel like in a funny way, it does go by order of importance.

[02:26:56] [SPEAKER_08]: You know, he says goodbye to the team and Richmond.

[02:27:00] [SPEAKER_08]: And then he says goodbye to Rebecca and then he says goodbye to beard.

[02:27:03] [SPEAKER_08]: Like it's it is order of importance.

[02:27:06] [SPEAKER_08]: Like some people might argue Rebecca was more important than beard.

[02:27:10] [SPEAKER_08]: And I don't agree with that at all.

[02:27:12] [SPEAKER_08]: Rebecca was incredibly important to Ted because they did help each other.

[02:27:16] [SPEAKER_08]: But beard has been a part of his life for so much longer.

[02:27:20] [SPEAKER_04]: That's his best friend.

[02:27:22] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, that saying goodbye to beard like was definitely more important than was higher on the list of importance than Rebecca.

[02:27:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Beard has definitely been a part of his professional life, his whole career.

[02:27:35] [SPEAKER_04]: This was huge for beard to go off on his own.

[02:27:39] [SPEAKER_04]: So it did. It needed its own moment.

[02:27:42] [SPEAKER_04]: But good.

[02:27:43] [SPEAKER_04]: But with Rebecca, they're both.

[02:27:48] [SPEAKER_04]: They're both such different people than they were in the very beginning.

[02:27:55] [SPEAKER_04]: They're the same person.

[02:27:57] [SPEAKER_04]: It's just that their broken selves were masking who they really were.

[02:28:02] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[02:28:03] [SPEAKER_04]: And in repairing each other, they got to learn how to live in their version of their best selves, which is fantastic.

[02:28:14] [SPEAKER_04]: That's all you can hope for with friendship is that you build each other up enough that you are living your best life.

[02:28:22] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[02:28:23] [SPEAKER_08]: And it just like it was such a wonderful goodbye, you know, to have the two of them say goodbye at the airport.

[02:28:31] [SPEAKER_08]: It's total Ramkamesh, but you know, it is what it is.

[02:28:37] [SPEAKER_08]: And I know.

[02:28:40] [SPEAKER_08]: But you can't deny that it was beautiful in this moment, whether you like.

[02:28:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Are you just the girl standing in front of a boy telling her that you love him?

[02:28:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Sorry.

[02:28:51] [SPEAKER_08]: But I but I love the fact too that like they both know in this moment there is so much they can say to one another.

[02:29:00] [SPEAKER_08]: But it can be summed up in two words.

[02:29:04] [SPEAKER_08]: Because they both say thank you to each other at the same time.

[02:29:08] [SPEAKER_08]: And then they stop and then Rebecca says thank you and Ted just says thank you.

[02:29:15] [SPEAKER_08]: That's all that ever needed to be said.

[02:29:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, it's just it's just like with Nate, if you were to list everything he was sorry for or everything that, you know, 10 Rebecca were thankful for, we'd still be watching the show.

[02:29:29] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[02:29:30] [SPEAKER_08]: There's there's a beauty in the simplicity of it.

[02:29:34] [SPEAKER_04]: You don't have to point out everything that somebody did wrong or right.

[02:29:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Sometimes just acknowledging.

[02:29:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Just general acknowledgement is enough.

[02:29:46] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[02:29:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I would say most of the time general acknowledgement and validation is enough.

[02:29:54] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[02:29:55] [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, so for the two of them to just end it with saying thank you like it was so touching and so beautiful, so simple.

[02:30:05] [SPEAKER_08]: But again, like the beauty in the simplicity was just awesome.

[02:30:09] [SPEAKER_08]: It was great.

[02:30:10] [SPEAKER_08]: It was great for these two characters to wrap up.

[02:30:13] [SPEAKER_08]: You know who they were.

[02:30:15] [SPEAKER_08]: Yes.

[02:30:16] [SPEAKER_08]: And I love I love the fact that she's like, she's like, I wish they didn't call me like the the organization or the like the organization matriarch intense like yeah has has a better ring to it than soccer mom.

[02:30:34] [SPEAKER_08]: Which you know, it is true fire up the van.

[02:30:39] [SPEAKER_04]: I want to be a soccer mom.

[02:30:42] [SPEAKER_08]: But yeah, it was just I you know, seeing these two say goodbye and then seeing beard say goodbye was just.

[02:30:49] [SPEAKER_08]: It was great.

[02:30:51] [SPEAKER_08]: It was a great way to wrap things up and it kind of just leads into the final couple moments of this with the big montage of everything that happens.

[02:31:01] [SPEAKER_08]: And I kind of have a list of the things that we see.

[02:31:06] [SPEAKER_08]: We see Rebecca outside of the airport helping the little girl who we have seen earlier, who turns out to be the daughter of the pilot from Amsterdam.

[02:31:21] [SPEAKER_08]: And we learn he learns her name but we still don't know his know by the moment.

[02:31:28] [SPEAKER_08]: He's just the pilot.

[02:31:30] [SPEAKER_08]: Yep.

[02:31:30] [SPEAKER_08]: He's Papa.

[02:31:31] [SPEAKER_08]: He's Papa by the little girl.

[02:31:33] [SPEAKER_08]: Papa.

[02:31:35] [SPEAKER_08]: We see Ted open Keely's gift.

[02:31:39] [SPEAKER_08]: And it is the snow globe that she originally bought Barbara.

[02:31:43] [SPEAKER_08]: What was in Beards bag?

[02:31:47] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't I don't know but he never has to open it.

[02:31:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[02:31:51] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm just wondering what could Keely have pop, you know, that's okay.

[02:31:57] [SPEAKER_04]: We can we can we can think about that on our round table.

[02:32:00] [SPEAKER_08]: Think things to ponder.

[02:32:02] [SPEAKER_08]: Yes.

[02:32:02] [SPEAKER_08]: We we see the completion of Trent's book.

[02:32:06] [SPEAKER_08]: We already talked about Ted's note to Trent, but then we see Trent actually the book completed and he's doing a book signing of the Richmond way with a forward by Roy Kent.

[02:32:19] [SPEAKER_08]: And he signs it goal Trent Cripp.

[02:32:22] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes.

[02:32:23] [SPEAKER_08]: Which I love.

[02:32:25] [SPEAKER_08]: We see KB PR in full effect with Keely and Barbara working close together.

[02:32:32] [SPEAKER_08]: And some of her original employees have come back.

[02:32:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, the one who thought she was the hottest boss he's ever had.

[02:32:40] [SPEAKER_08]: We see that he has returned.

[02:32:43] [SPEAKER_08]: We see that AFC Richmond has a new manager.

[02:32:48] [SPEAKER_08]: And it is Roy Kent.

[02:32:49] [SPEAKER_04]: And was it going to be you know what I'm saying.

[02:32:53] [SPEAKER_08]: Exactly.

[02:32:54] [SPEAKER_08]: And I love talking about callbacks.

[02:32:58] [SPEAKER_08]: I love the fact that we see Roy hanging a picture and it is the boobs with the black tape around it.

[02:33:08] [SPEAKER_08]: Yes, which in the pilot, we did see Ted hanging a picture.

[02:33:12] [SPEAKER_08]: So we see like this is how we get introduced to the new coach in the pilot.

[02:33:16] [SPEAKER_08]: We see a hand drawn card from Henry that says good luck dad.

[02:33:20] [SPEAKER_08]: And in this scene we see a poster from Phoebe that says good luck uncle Roy.

[02:33:25] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

[02:33:27] [SPEAKER_08]: So we see Ted or we see Roy kind of making his taking acceptance of his new office.

[02:33:33] [SPEAKER_08]: We talked about it but we see Jamie and his father reconciling and just having a relationship.

[02:33:44] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[02:33:45] [SPEAKER_08]: Being being a part of each other's lives which is beautiful.

[02:33:49] [SPEAKER_08]: We see the Higgins family barbecue which includes the entire AFC Richmond team including the pilot and his daughter.

[02:33:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

[02:33:59] [SPEAKER_08]: Who are there as well.

[02:34:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Who have obviously been there for a while because Phoebe and the daughter immediately run off together.

[02:34:10] [SPEAKER_08]: Yes.

[02:34:11] [SPEAKER_08]: Which I do have a I'm going to pose a question to you when I'm finished with this.

[02:34:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, I do think Roy and Keely are together.

[02:34:18] [SPEAKER_08]: No, that's not the question.

[02:34:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, that was my answer.

[02:34:22] [SPEAKER_08]: We see the team ownership of the fans we mentioned Baz Paul and Jeremy having theirs and may having theirs and we get a loving nod to cheers in this scene where may straightens the picture of the Indian which is exactly what happens in Native American

[02:34:44] [SPEAKER_08]: which is exactly what happens in the series finale of cheers.

[02:34:48] [SPEAKER_06]: Yes.

[02:34:49] [SPEAKER_08]: Is Ted or Ted dancing goes to the walls to straighten the picture and it's the same exact picture.

[02:34:56] [SPEAKER_08]: What were you going to say?

[02:34:58] [SPEAKER_08]: We're about to say something.

[02:34:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, that I didn't that that I saw in an article because I don't know cheers.

[02:35:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, okay.

[02:35:06] [SPEAKER_08]: We see Keely is pitching the idea of an AFC Richmond women's league.

[02:35:13] [SPEAKER_08]: Rebecca's got a billion dollars.

[02:35:15] [SPEAKER_08]: And I love this too because like if you watch Welcome to Rexham, a lot of teams have women's teams.

[02:35:23] [SPEAKER_08]: So for AFC Richmond to join the ranks is just a great idea and then headed by those two women.

[02:35:32] [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, yeah.

[02:35:33] [SPEAKER_08]: Exactly.

[02:35:35] [SPEAKER_08]: We see Dr. Sharon has returned into the AFC Richmond fold.

[02:35:41] [SPEAKER_08]: She is the mental health advisor for the team and who was her first patient?

[02:35:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Roy holding her army man.

[02:35:50] [SPEAKER_08]: Yep.

[02:35:52] [SPEAKER_08]: We see Nate repairing the believe sign with the Japanese art of Kanzuki, which is repairing with gold.

[02:36:02] [SPEAKER_08]: And then we can suit.

[02:36:05] [SPEAKER_08]: Is that what it?

[02:36:05] [SPEAKER_08]: Okay.

[02:36:06] [SPEAKER_08]: And we see them rehiring rehanging the sign in the locker room.

[02:36:12] [SPEAKER_08]: It is back to where it belongs to Roy's shoulders detriment.

[02:36:16] [SPEAKER_08]: Yes.

[02:36:17] [SPEAKER_08]: I love that we see him like rubbing his shoulder as they're like afterwards.

[02:36:22] [SPEAKER_08]: And then the final thing we see is Beards wedding at Stonehenge to a pregnant Jane.

[02:36:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[02:36:29] [SPEAKER_08]: With an entire cast of characters behind.

[02:36:34] [SPEAKER_08]: No Ted though, which kind of poses a question.

[02:36:40] [SPEAKER_04]: That's in the AMA.

[02:36:42] [SPEAKER_08]: Okay.

[02:36:43] [SPEAKER_08]: So Brendan Hunt does address this in the AMA.

[02:36:46] [SPEAKER_08]: Would you like me to read the answer?

[02:36:48] [SPEAKER_08]: So hold on before you read the answer, I'm going to pose that the theory going when the series first ended.

[02:36:54] [SPEAKER_08]: Because after all of this, we see Ted wake up landing on the plane.

[02:37:00] [SPEAKER_08]: So the theory was that this was a dream sequence of Ted.

[02:37:03] [SPEAKER_08]: He was dreaming the future of these characters.

[02:37:10] [SPEAKER_08]: Which I don't believe.

[02:37:12] [SPEAKER_08]: I think we are seeing the future of these characters.

[02:37:15] [SPEAKER_08]: The theory was that he was dreaming the future of these characters, their future without him and how successful they can be without him.

[02:37:27] [SPEAKER_08]: But if Brendan Hunt addresses this in the AMA, please I would like to know.

[02:37:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, so the question was why was Ted not at Coach Beards wedding to Jane?

[02:37:38] [SPEAKER_04]: It felt weird that Roy was best man.

[02:37:40] [SPEAKER_04]: So Brendan Hunt says there are a few reasons.

[02:37:44] [SPEAKER_04]: The first is narrative.

[02:37:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Ted just got on a plane and left the UK.

[02:37:47] [SPEAKER_04]: It would be anticlimactic and deflating if we suddenly see him back there before we even see his plane lands.

[02:37:54] [SPEAKER_04]: The other is that that's just the kind of friendship Ted and Beard have.

[02:37:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Case and point is me and Joe Kelly co-creator of Ted Lasso and one of the best friends I'll ever know.

[02:38:05] [SPEAKER_04]: A few years ago, I get an email from him and his fantastic girlfriend that they are getting married in less than a month.

[02:38:12] [SPEAKER_04]: The email clearly stated no worries if it's too short of notice, which was awfully nice as them.

[02:38:18] [SPEAKER_04]: I desperately wanted to be there but I couldn't.

[02:38:20] [SPEAKER_04]: They had scheduled the wedding the same day as a show I was doing in another city if I recall correctly.

[02:38:25] [SPEAKER_04]: So I missed the wedding and guess what? No one cares.

[02:38:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Our relationship is the exact same.

[02:38:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Our families live down the street from each other and we see each other all the time.

[02:38:35] [SPEAKER_04]: So personally, I think Beard called Ted and told him that he could sit this one out and Ted said thanks because the ceremony conflicted with a big game for Henry's soccer team.

[02:38:44] [SPEAKER_04]: The history of their relationship in my opinion is long periods of seeing each other and long periods not.

[02:38:50] [SPEAKER_04]: We have entered one of the latter.

[02:38:52] [SPEAKER_04]: The former will come around again at some point.

[02:38:55] [SPEAKER_04]: They love each other.

[02:38:56] [SPEAKER_04]: They will see each other again.

[02:38:58] [SPEAKER_04]: They love each other.

[02:38:59] [SPEAKER_04]: They will see each other again.

[02:39:01] [SPEAKER_04]: He says that sentence twice in his answer.

[02:39:05] [SPEAKER_08]: I think he's just repeating the process.

[02:39:11] [SPEAKER_08]: Maybe I don't know.

[02:39:15] [SPEAKER_08]: He could be hinting at something for the future of the series.

[02:39:18] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't know.

[02:39:20] [SPEAKER_08]: I try not to read into those kind of things now because personally, I...

[02:39:27] [SPEAKER_08]: Go ahead.

[02:39:27] [SPEAKER_08]: Sorry.

[02:39:28] [SPEAKER_08]: Go ahead.

[02:39:30] [SPEAKER_08]: No, go ahead.

[02:39:31] [SPEAKER_08]: Finish your thought.

[02:39:32] [SPEAKER_08]: I was going to say like I personally, I think this series wrapped up beautifully and it doesn't need to continue.

[02:39:37] [SPEAKER_08]: But as much as I would love to see these characters again, I don't feel like it's needed.

[02:39:42] [SPEAKER_08]: So I try not to read into those kind of things.

[02:39:44] [SPEAKER_08]: But good.

[02:39:45] [SPEAKER_04]: One of the other questions was in the final episode, is the beard and Jane wedding a dream sequence of Ted's?

[02:39:53] [SPEAKER_04]: And he says no, that was real.

[02:39:55] [SPEAKER_08]: Okay.

[02:39:55] [SPEAKER_08]: So that kind of puts that theory to rest.

[02:39:58] [SPEAKER_08]: I believed it was real when I watched it.

[02:40:01] [SPEAKER_08]: I never thought at once that this was a dream sequence.

[02:40:07] [SPEAKER_08]: Because I wanted to believe all those things that I saw.

[02:40:10] [SPEAKER_08]: The AFC women's league Roy becoming the new head coach.

[02:40:14] [SPEAKER_08]: Like I wanted to believe all those things.

[02:40:16] [SPEAKER_08]: Therefore I did.

[02:40:17] [SPEAKER_08]: I never, never thought it was a dream sequence.

[02:40:20] [SPEAKER_04]: No, I didn't either.

[02:40:21] [SPEAKER_08]: But it kind of leads into the final moment of the very final moments of the episode is Ted home.

[02:40:27] [SPEAKER_08]: You see the plane land.

[02:40:29] [SPEAKER_08]: He is in a car.

[02:40:30] [SPEAKER_08]: Henry is waiting for him at the window and runs to him when he gets there.

[02:40:35] [SPEAKER_08]: Michelle is on the front porch.

[02:40:37] [SPEAKER_08]: They are a family again.

[02:40:40] [SPEAKER_08]: And it fast forwards to Ted being the coach of Henry soccer team.

[02:40:47] [SPEAKER_08]: And we get two callbacks in this scene.

[02:40:52] [SPEAKER_08]: Henry misses the goal.

[02:40:55] [SPEAKER_08]: And Ted tells him like, what do we know?

[02:40:58] [SPEAKER_08]: And it's be a goldfish.

[02:41:00] [SPEAKER_08]: Complete callback to Sam.

[02:41:03] [SPEAKER_08]: His advice to Sam.

[02:41:05] [SPEAKER_08]: And then we get this full circle moment of the season, not of the series of the season.

[02:41:11] [SPEAKER_08]: Because the very first scene of season three is a close up on Ted looking tired and defeated.

[02:41:20] [SPEAKER_08]: Sitting in the airport knowing that Henry is going home.

[02:41:24] [SPEAKER_08]: And how does the series end?

[02:41:27] [SPEAKER_08]: On a close up on Ted content and smiling.

[02:41:34] [SPEAKER_08]: Ted is home and he's happy.

[02:41:37] [SPEAKER_08]: Uh-huh.

[02:41:38] [SPEAKER_08]: 100%.

[02:41:39] [SPEAKER_08]: And to me, that is why we don't need more.

[02:41:45] [SPEAKER_08]: Ted story.

[02:41:46] [SPEAKER_08]: Ted Lasso is complete.

[02:41:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, I agree.

[02:41:51] [SPEAKER_08]: We don't need more Ted Lasso.

[02:41:53] [SPEAKER_08]: I will never object to more of these characters in a Richmond spin off or something.

[02:42:01] [SPEAKER_06]: I agree.

[02:42:07] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't want more Ted.

[02:42:11] [SPEAKER_08]: I feel like it will just diminish what we got.

[02:42:16] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't, but okay.

[02:42:21] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't at all.

[02:42:22] [SPEAKER_04]: I disagree, but that's okay.

[02:42:23] [SPEAKER_04]: That's the lovely part about this show.

[02:42:26] [SPEAKER_08]: Exactly.

[02:42:28] [SPEAKER_08]: Um, we are so long, but I don't care.

[02:42:32] [SPEAKER_08]: We knew we were going to and we're not done yet because we got a lot of

[02:42:35] [SPEAKER_08]: talk about a couple of callbacks that we didn't mention during the discussion.

[02:42:38] [SPEAKER_08]: And then we have feedback, but anything else as far as the main discussion

[02:42:42] [SPEAKER_08]: before we kind of dive into some of these quick callbacks?

[02:42:44] [SPEAKER_08]: Nope.

[02:42:46] [SPEAKER_08]: Okay.

[02:42:48] [SPEAKER_08]: Um, so why don't you throw out a couple of the callbacks?

[02:42:52] [SPEAKER_08]: Because I know you're looking at the same article I am, but then I have a couple of others.

[02:42:55] [SPEAKER_04]: We got the Aussie guy.

[02:42:57] [SPEAKER_08]: Yes.

[02:42:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Got the Aussie guy.

[02:42:59] [SPEAKER_04]: The Aussie guy was in the first, uh, first episode, last episode and the season two, uh,

[02:43:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Christmas episode.

[02:43:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, was it?

[02:43:09] [SPEAKER_08]: He's in the Christmas episode.

[02:43:10] [SPEAKER_04]: So he's in four episodes then because he's also next to Jamie at the barber shop.

[02:43:17] [SPEAKER_08]: Yes.

[02:43:18] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[02:43:18] [SPEAKER_08]: So he's in four because remember he's the family that Roy and he's one of the families that Roy, uh,

[02:43:24] [SPEAKER_08]: Akili and Phoebe visit when they're going house to house.

[02:43:28] [SPEAKER_08]: So he is also in that scene.

[02:43:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

[02:43:30] [SPEAKER_04]: And that actually the woman that played his mother was actually the actor's mother.

[02:43:38] [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, that's kind of fun.

[02:43:40] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[02:43:41] [SPEAKER_08]: They never give the character a name, but Ted, I think calls him boots at one point.

[02:43:49] [SPEAKER_08]: I got to go to the transcript and find out exactly what it is.

[02:43:52] [SPEAKER_08]: But when he says like, I can I have an Aussie?

[02:43:55] [SPEAKER_08]: Um, you know, like he says, he says something.

[02:44:04] [SPEAKER_08]: Where's that?

[02:44:06] [SPEAKER_08]: Rebecca says you're going home to your family.

[02:44:08] [SPEAKER_08]: I actually want to stay with mine.

[02:44:11] [SPEAKER_08]: Oh no, he doesn't call him boots.

[02:44:14] [SPEAKER_08]: How did I miss this reference?

[02:44:16] [SPEAKER_08]: That's fucking great.

[02:44:18] [SPEAKER_08]: When he says, can I get an Aussie and he says, yeah, sure.

[02:44:23] [SPEAKER_08]: He says sick.

[02:44:24] [SPEAKER_08]: He takes the Aussie.

[02:44:26] [SPEAKER_08]: He says wicked.

[02:44:28] [SPEAKER_08]: So Ted responds kinky boots.

[02:44:33] [SPEAKER_08]: He responds with another musical name.

[02:44:36] [SPEAKER_08]: That's great.

[02:44:38] [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, I never picked up on that.

[02:44:41] [SPEAKER_09]: And now I love that scene more.

[02:44:43] [SPEAKER_04]: I love because that's Ted.

[02:44:45] [SPEAKER_04]: I love Ted.

[02:44:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Yep.

[02:44:46] [SPEAKER_04]: That's totally Ted.

[02:44:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Totally dead.

[02:44:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Nate is wearing the suit that Ted bought him in the final scene with his parents.

[02:44:55] [SPEAKER_08]: That's lovely.

[02:44:56] [SPEAKER_08]: I didn't notice that.

[02:45:00] [SPEAKER_08]: Um, let's see.

[02:45:02] [SPEAKER_08]: I'll throw a couple out there.

[02:45:03] [SPEAKER_08]: We talked about Jamie and the money box in the first that was a call back to the first scene.

[02:45:09] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm seeing the image now you're right.

[02:45:11] [SPEAKER_08]: His hat says I cog.

[02:45:12] [SPEAKER_08]: I love that.

[02:45:15] [SPEAKER_08]: Um, Roy scaring Keely happens in both the pilot and the season for

[02:45:21] [SPEAKER_08]: Natalie as does her walking into the locker room saying is everybody decent right with her head down.

[02:45:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Yep.

[02:45:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Um, tape over the breasts of the drawing that he has just like Ted put tape over.

[02:45:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Um, Keely's breasts in the locker room.

[02:45:42] [SPEAKER_09]: Yep.

[02:45:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Season one episode one.

[02:45:46] [SPEAKER_08]: Uh, we see a call back in some of the fans in the audience.

[02:45:51] [SPEAKER_08]: Uh, for the, for the final game, we see the, um, the girl Shannon that plays with Ted outside is one of the first people we see.

[02:46:01] [SPEAKER_08]: We see the couple that were part of the rainbow couple that were part of the romcom episode are there as our John Winks night and his fiancee as we mentioned before to or also there.

[02:46:13] [SPEAKER_08]: So we see some callbacks in the audience as well.

[02:46:18] [SPEAKER_08]: Um, let's see, we talked about the off sides rule, which we mentioned Nate trick play and Ted doing the running man.

[02:46:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Let's see what else you know is that Dr. Sharon's army man had a radio.

[02:46:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Like you can always call me.

[02:46:36] [SPEAKER_08]: Oh no.

[02:46:38] [SPEAKER_08]: That's awesome.

[02:46:40] [SPEAKER_08]: Uh, we get the call back to the woman in red being at the wedding for, for beard.

[02:46:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, any row houses with the same two women at wedding that he was after killing football is dead.

[02:47:00] [SPEAKER_08]: We talked about Jamie's, Jamie's book that he kept the piece of the belief sign in.

[02:47:06] [SPEAKER_08]: Um, this is a callback from not the first episode, but the beginning of the season.

[02:47:11] [SPEAKER_08]: There's a conversation between Roy and Jamie when Roy says to Jamie when I was coming up, there was this old geezer at the club Doug Standwish.

[02:47:18] [SPEAKER_08]: He was always on me.

[02:47:20] [SPEAKER_08]: We hated each other.

[02:47:22] [SPEAKER_08]: And Jamie says you in that Doug block you ever become friends and Roy said, fuck no, I hope he's dead.

[02:47:28] [SPEAKER_08]: This is the same situation.

[02:47:29] [SPEAKER_08]: And then Nate says, I guess you two are friends or you two friends now and Jamie says, I guess so.

[02:47:35] [SPEAKER_08]: And Nate's like, that's wonderful.

[02:47:37] [SPEAKER_08]: So this is a different situation where Jamie and the old geezer actually became friends unlike Roy and the other one.

[02:47:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Beards pants that he wore for his wedding are the pants that the lady in red had him wear while she fixed his other pants.

[02:47:57] [SPEAKER_08]: That's awesome.

[02:47:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[02:47:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Those are the same pants.

[02:48:02] [SPEAKER_08]: Ted Lasso questioning their decision in the, in the pilot episode, he turns the beard as they're going to England and says, are we nuts for doing this?

[02:48:13] [SPEAKER_08]: And in the finale, he turns the coach.

[02:48:16] [SPEAKER_08]: He turns the beard for leaving and says, is this nuts?

[02:48:19] [SPEAKER_08]: Like they are questioning their decisions in the pilot and the, and the finale.

[02:48:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Jane is wearing the same blazer that Rebecca wore for the Christmas episode.

[02:48:33] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, okay.

[02:48:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Roy is malding the words of so long farewell like he mouthed the words to let it go by frozen.

[02:48:43] [SPEAKER_08]: This is totally Phoebe's influence.

[02:48:46] [SPEAKER_08]: I mean,

[02:48:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Proving he is the best uncle ever to have lived.

[02:48:49] [SPEAKER_08]: Actually, I think so frozen was very clearly Phoebe's influence.

[02:48:54] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't think sound of music was.

[02:48:57] [SPEAKER_08]: I think that's totally Roy.

[02:49:00] [SPEAKER_08]: That is 100% absolutely.

[02:49:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Him and his sister grew up on that.

[02:49:06] [SPEAKER_08]: Rebecca in the pilot says like it or not Richmond, like it or not, Richmond are changing the way thing, the way we do things.

[02:49:16] [SPEAKER_08]: And from now on, this is the lasso way.

[02:49:19] [SPEAKER_08]: And then that's what Trent calls it before Ted changes his mind and wants to call it the Richmond way.

[02:49:31] [SPEAKER_08]: Sam, the picture of the Nigerian World Cup team, he throws into the fire.

[02:49:37] [SPEAKER_08]: He says I pledged I wouldn't take this down until I made the team myself and I still intend to do that.

[02:49:42] [SPEAKER_08]: And we see that he does.

[02:49:44] [SPEAKER_08]: He actually, he does get to play on that team.

[02:49:46] [SPEAKER_04]: He doesn't have his big Sam smile, though, when that happens.

[02:49:53] [SPEAKER_08]: Yes, he does.

[02:49:54] [SPEAKER_08]: He smiles big in that picture.

[02:49:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I don't remember that.

[02:49:58] [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, somebody did ask somebody did ask Brennan Hunt about that.

[02:50:03] [SPEAKER_04]: They said, I love this answer.

[02:50:06] [SPEAKER_04]: That's why I'm bringing it up.

[02:50:07] [SPEAKER_04]: How was Sam able to get on the Nigerian team?

[02:50:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Did he release security camera footage from his restaurant showing Edwin a Kufu admitting to bribing Nigerian government?

[02:50:16] [SPEAKER_04]: And Brennan Hunt replies with a two word response, national outcry.

[02:50:23] [SPEAKER_08]: Well, that could just mean the world wanted the world wanted Sam on that team.

[02:50:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[02:50:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[02:50:28] [SPEAKER_04]: And that's what it was.

[02:50:29] [SPEAKER_04]: It was national outcry.

[02:50:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Sam Obisani is one of the best players in the league, obviously 100%.

[02:50:36] [SPEAKER_08]: We get the full Roy asking who the fuck are the diamond dogs to can I be a diamond dog?

[02:50:42] [SPEAKER_08]: That's a full circle moment.

[02:50:46] [SPEAKER_08]: The barbecue sauce, which we mentioned as well.

[02:50:50] [SPEAKER_08]: Barbecue.

[02:50:51] [SPEAKER_08]: And I think that's all I have for callbacks and full circle moments.

[02:50:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Yep.

[02:50:58] [SPEAKER_04]: I do have my favorite line of the entire of the entire show was forget my luggage.

[02:51:07] [SPEAKER_04]: It's full of rice.

[02:51:09] [SPEAKER_09]: Forget my luggage.

[02:51:10] [SPEAKER_09]: It's full of rice.

[02:51:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Rice.

[02:51:13] [SPEAKER_04]: I've been I haven't slept in three days.

[02:51:16] [SPEAKER_08]: But that like that just goes to show you like how hard that decision was, like how much that was weighing on beard to have to tell Ted.

[02:51:28] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't want to go.

[02:51:29] [SPEAKER_08]: Mm hmm.

[02:51:30] [SPEAKER_08]: You know, like that was weighing on him so much that he didn't sleep for three days.

[02:51:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[02:51:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Mm hmm.

[02:51:37] [SPEAKER_08]: You know, not the game.

[02:51:39] [SPEAKER_08]: Not anything else.

[02:51:40] [SPEAKER_08]: It was that decision of telling Ted I'm leave like I'm not going to go home.

[02:51:47] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[02:51:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, there was nothing for beard back there.

[02:51:51] [SPEAKER_08]: Well, and he also like it's carefully worded to like he doesn't say I don't want to go home.

[02:51:56] [SPEAKER_08]: He says I don't want to go because he is home.

[02:51:59] [SPEAKER_08]: Mm hmm.

[02:52:01] [SPEAKER_08]: Like that that was never that was not his home.

[02:52:03] [SPEAKER_08]: He's home now.

[02:52:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Willis is home.

[02:52:05] [SPEAKER_08]: Yes, I love that you keep bringing up the Willis thing because his name is Willis kind of brings our episode full circle because that's how you started this episode.

[02:52:16] Yep.

[02:52:18] [SPEAKER_08]: Anything else for you as far as discussions call back to God, let's go.

[02:52:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Let's go to a let's go to feedback.

[02:52:26] [SPEAKER_08]: Let's go to feedback in which we did we reached out and we wanted you guys and you guys didn't disappoint.

[02:52:32] [SPEAKER_08]: We got a bunch.

[02:52:33] [SPEAKER_08]: So we got a number of voicemails as well as some Facebook feedback too.

[02:52:37] [SPEAKER_08]: So let's start things off with the Facebook feedback, which is pretty generalized.

[02:52:42] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't think there one of them is pretty generalized.

[02:52:44] [SPEAKER_08]: But the other one I think is episode specific.

[02:52:46] [SPEAKER_08]: So why don't you kick us off with the Facebook feedback?

[02:52:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[02:52:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Becky Anderson says it was a sweet ending to such a great show.

[02:52:55] [SPEAKER_04]: They did a great job closing out each character's phrase.

[02:52:58] [SPEAKER_04]: I may have cried a little bit.

[02:53:00] [SPEAKER_04]: So did Ben.

[02:53:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Becky.

[02:53:02] [SPEAKER_04]: They have.

[02:53:03] [SPEAKER_08]: Come on.

[02:53:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Our other piece of feedback comes from Jennifer McGillie.

[02:53:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Sorry, I won't be joining you as I'm new to Ted Lasso and I've only watched the first four episodes.

[02:53:13] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm watching it with my youngest son, Luke, who is on his third rewatch and the next youngest, Francis is raging because apparently I promised to watch it with him.

[02:53:22] [SPEAKER_04]: My question is honesty there as I have no recollection of this and suspect he's just in it's just another teenage way to make mum feel bad.

[02:53:30] [SPEAKER_04]: I've listened to the podcast pertaining to my episode, skipping the spoiler section.

[02:53:34] [SPEAKER_04]: And it seems I'm going to warm up to Jamie Tartt and a few other horrors.

[02:53:39] [SPEAKER_04]: We'll see.

[02:53:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Also.

[02:53:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Sorry, also learned Ted Lasso began for commercials and they're available on YouTube.

[02:53:47] [SPEAKER_04]: So I was able to gain brownie points from the household resident Ted Lasso expert, Luke.

[02:53:54] [SPEAKER_04]: I have nothing to add here, but I'd like to contribute something so I can hear my shout out when I get to the series finale.

[02:53:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Jennifer, thank you for sending that in.

[02:54:02] [SPEAKER_04]: That's wonderful.

[02:54:02] [SPEAKER_04]: And I hope you enjoy watching the rest of the series.

[02:54:05] [SPEAKER_04]: It's such a good show.

[02:54:08] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, by the time she's here, she has.

[02:54:10] [SPEAKER_04]: And when you're done, you know, shoot us a message will be in good is but shoot us a message anyways.

[02:54:17] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[02:54:18] [SPEAKER_08]: Or go back and re listen and listen to the spoiler parts this time.

[02:54:22] [SPEAKER_08]: Oh yeah.

[02:54:23] [SPEAKER_08]: So I love the fact to like I love that this is acknowledgement to that splitting it up and actually doing a spoiler section and putting it in the show notes and everything for people to skip it has worked.

[02:54:33] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, you know, that's actually that's actually helps some people.

[02:54:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I agree.

[02:54:40] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, it's funny the friend of mine that stayed with me these past couple days has only watched the first two seasons.

[02:54:45] [SPEAKER_08]: And I'm like, dude, you got to get on it like you got to finish.

[02:54:47] [SPEAKER_08]: You got to finish this series.

[02:54:50] [SPEAKER_08]: But that takes us to the voicemails that we have.

[02:54:53] [SPEAKER_08]: So the first one that we have is actually from Alex and this is meant to play this at the top of the episode before we got into the discussion because they didn't want to break everything up but he did leave us feedback for mom city from last week.

[02:55:06] [SPEAKER_08]: So we're going to play that first and then we're going to go into the feedback for the finale.

[02:55:12] [SPEAKER_08]: So this is from Alex and this is from mom city from last week.

[02:55:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, all Alice Kruger here leaving feedback for the penultimate episode of Ted lasso series mom city apologies for missing last week.

[02:55:25] [SPEAKER_01]: I'll try to keep this brief but hey no spoiler alert so that's good.

[02:55:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Ted's disdain for his mother is so apparent from jump from the second he brings her into his apartment.

[02:55:33] [SPEAKER_01]: It's telling me doesn't tell beard why he's running late, especially since beard and daddy are decently close.

[02:55:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Throughout the early parts of the episode Ted tries so hard to be nice to his mother with his sacrifices and service but he's still curtain dismissive with her in a way we've never seen him with anyone else.

[02:55:50] [SPEAKER_01]: I thought that was fascinating.

[02:55:52] [SPEAKER_01]: And I love their final conversation where they're finally honest.

[02:55:55] [SPEAKER_01]: I appreciated guys reaction to the colorful truths Ted was throwing out.

[02:55:58] [SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was a wonderfully handled scene and damn it if I didn't blubber like a baby when she said your son misses you.

[02:56:04] [SPEAKER_01]: That one hits close to home.

[02:56:05] [SPEAKER_01]: All in all Ted's mom journey was great.

[02:56:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Jamie's journey this episode was delightful yet bizarre.

[02:56:13] [SPEAKER_01]: His complete deconstruction of his sense of self was beautifully portrayed but I can't get over the story with his mother.

[02:56:18] [SPEAKER_01]: They really set you up to believe she's dead throughout the first two seasons and then boom here she is no problem.

[02:56:24] [SPEAKER_01]: But we get the belief that she and Jamie don't talk or see each other often.

[02:56:28] [SPEAKER_01]: He has a childhood home there but not a young adults room.

[02:56:32] [SPEAKER_01]: And it feels like this is such a rare occurrence yet the relationship they have is so warm and strong.

[02:56:37] [SPEAKER_01]: And she seems like she has a great head on her shoulder.

[02:56:39] [SPEAKER_01]: So why the hell wasn't she more in Jamie's life during all of his turmoil when I feel like he really could have used her.

[02:56:45] [SPEAKER_01]: And I feel like she would have absolutely been there for him.

[02:56:47] [SPEAKER_01]: I'd love to have more information on why they seem so distant while being so unbelievably close to one another.

[02:56:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Now I remember the first time I watched this show and I remember walking out thinking Nate got off easy for what he did in season two.

[02:56:59] [SPEAKER_01]: And I wanted him to earn it a bit more but I couldn't have been farther from the truth.

[02:57:04] [SPEAKER_01]: His journey wasn't just about getting the apology but getting the growth.

[02:57:08] [SPEAKER_01]: He walked away from West Ham.

[02:57:10] [SPEAKER_01]: He entered a mature and proper adult relationship.

[02:57:12] [SPEAKER_01]: He repaired fences at home.

[02:57:14] [SPEAKER_01]: He earned his glow up and then some this season.

[02:57:16] [SPEAKER_01]: And I like knowing where it ends so I can appreciate the journey for what it is and what it always needed to be.

[02:57:23] [SPEAKER_01]: A couple of quick hits and then I'm out.

[02:57:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Poetic to finally use you've got mail and I have to wonder if Sam and Rebecca have a laugh at how close their banter names were to Tom Hanks and Meg Ryan's characters.

[02:57:33] [SPEAKER_01]: You know some athletes can pull off the broken nose mask.

[02:57:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Some athletes can't but you really can't deny the power of the Mask of Zorro.

[02:57:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Pep Gertiola is essentially as winning focused as Nick Saban.

[02:57:44] [SPEAKER_01]: So having him echoed Ted's it doesn't matter if you win or lose ethos was rather funny.

[02:57:48] [SPEAKER_01]: But that's it for me this week.

[02:57:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Time to fire up the series one last time this time.

[02:57:53] [SPEAKER_01]: See in a few.

[02:57:55] [SPEAKER_08]: So that was the pep that you mentioned in the stories.

[02:57:59] [SPEAKER_08]: He's the coach of Manchester City.

[02:58:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Got it.

[02:58:02] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, he's the coach of Manchester so now we have an answer to that.

[02:58:06] [SPEAKER_08]: Thank you, Ellis.

[02:58:08] [SPEAKER_08]: Not to spend too much time on this but I never got the inclination that they were leading us to believe that Jamie's mother was dead.

[02:58:15] [SPEAKER_08]: I never got that.

[02:58:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Was that something?

[02:58:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Alex says that in the voicemail.

[02:58:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but was that something that people thought?

[02:58:24] [SPEAKER_08]: Apparently he did.

[02:58:25] [SPEAKER_08]: I never got that at all.

[02:58:28] [SPEAKER_08]: I just thought we just never heard heard about her.

[02:58:31] [SPEAKER_08]: So yeah, I don't know.

[02:58:34] [SPEAKER_04]: I think that her, I mean she served her purpose where she served it.

[02:58:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[02:58:41] [SPEAKER_04]: I think that's just all that it really comes down to.

[02:58:44] [SPEAKER_04]: I never questioned whether she was alive or dead.

[02:58:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Honestly, men like Jamie Tart before he became an ICOG when you're an icon.

[02:58:57] [SPEAKER_04]: They hide traditionally stereotypically.

[02:59:01] [SPEAKER_04]: They hide their most vulnerable points of themselves and Jamie's mom was the most vulnerable part of himself.

[02:59:11] [SPEAKER_04]: So I don't think that it's too far of a reach that Jamie kept his mom hidden.

[02:59:18] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, yeah, I can see that as well.

[02:59:21] [SPEAKER_08]: But thank you, Alex for playing catch up and sending that too.

[02:59:26] [SPEAKER_08]: You know what, while we're on it, let's just go ahead and play Alex's feedback for the finale as well.

[02:59:32] [SPEAKER_08]: We'll just bookend them back to back.

[02:59:34] [SPEAKER_08]: But this is Alex's feedback for this episode for the finale.

[02:59:55] [SPEAKER_01]: He was so content in his decision.

[02:59:58] [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't care how corny it was, the so long farewell moment was so wonderfully done.

[03:00:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Now there is a scene in the wire where Major Bunny Colvin says to the deacons something along the lines of

[03:00:09] [SPEAKER_01]: I've been police for 30 years and it's worse now than when I started.

[03:00:13] [SPEAKER_01]: And the scene of the Richmond players and fans excitedly celebrating after their musical number

[03:00:17] [SPEAKER_01]: felt like the exact opposite sentiment of what Bunny Colvin was saying at that time.

[03:00:22] [SPEAKER_01]: And I say all of this as my final plea during this rewatch for Ben to start watching the walk.

[03:00:28] [SPEAKER_01]: One of my favorite bits from the show is Trent reacting to Ted reading his book.

[03:00:33] [SPEAKER_01]: It's very reminiscent of how I am listening to you guys react to my feedback.

[03:00:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I can hear him laugh. That was a witty joke.

[03:00:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I understand why we had the Jamie Roy Keely love, not triangle, love boomerang.

[03:00:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Can we just go with boomerang instead of triangle hinge?

[03:00:50] [SPEAKER_01]: All right, hold on. So Keely in the center, Roy and Jamie on opposite ends.

[03:00:53] [SPEAKER_01]: It just flips through the air before returning.

[03:00:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Holy shirt balls. That just might work.

[03:00:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Anyways, I forking loved how the second Roy and Jamie had something to fight over.

[03:01:02] [SPEAKER_01]: They reverted to season one, Jamie and Roy.

[03:01:05] [SPEAKER_01]: I also loved how they used the game to advance the story.

[03:01:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Show the disconnect between Dr. Dork and Ted's XY.

[03:01:12] [SPEAKER_01]: I wish I had more notes.

[03:01:14] [SPEAKER_01]: But honestly, after Keely shutting the door on Jamie and Roy's face,

[03:01:17] [SPEAKER_01]: I put the pen down and just started watching.

[03:01:20] [SPEAKER_01]: It was a phenomenal way to end the story of Ted Lasso.

[03:01:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Now, the story of AFC Richmond has just begun

[03:01:26] [SPEAKER_01]: and I will not slide into nihilism yet.

[03:01:28] [SPEAKER_01]: And I will believe that Richmond's story is not yet done. Damn it.

[03:01:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I want to see Jamie and Nate these days.

[03:01:34] [SPEAKER_01]: I want to see board meetings with Rebecca and Baz in May.

[03:01:37] [SPEAKER_01]: I want to see Nate as a diamond dog again.

[03:01:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I refuse to believe this is it.

[03:01:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Having said that, that's it for me this week.

[03:01:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Looking forward to the round table episode, call me.

[03:01:49] [SPEAKER_01]: And as always, welcome. Everything is fine.

[03:01:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay. Four good place references.

[03:01:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you so much, Alex. That was freaking hilarious.

[03:02:01] [SPEAKER_04]: I do want to say I often turn the sound off for voicemails

[03:02:06] [SPEAKER_04]: because I do have such loud reactions

[03:02:09] [SPEAKER_04]: that it actually cuts off what I can hear in my ears

[03:02:13] [SPEAKER_04]: when I start saying things.

[03:02:15] [SPEAKER_04]: So I just turn the sound off most of the time now

[03:02:18] [SPEAKER_04]: because you guys just delight me all the time.

[03:02:22] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't. I just laugh over top of it.

[03:02:25] [SPEAKER_08]: I did this episode too, or this feedback as well.

[03:02:29] [SPEAKER_08]: But yeah, thank you for the good place references in there

[03:02:32] [SPEAKER_08]: helping us leading into the next step, you know,

[03:02:35] [SPEAKER_08]: the next chapter of this podcast.

[03:02:38] [SPEAKER_04]: And if Ben has not finished watching the wire

[03:02:40] [SPEAKER_04]: by the end of the good place, I'm going to riot.

[03:02:44] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to riot.

[03:02:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay. Because we've been talking about this for years,

[03:02:49] [SPEAKER_04]: not year years.

[03:02:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. We're in plural now.

[03:02:54] [SPEAKER_08]: And I will also say thank you once again, Alex,

[03:02:57] [SPEAKER_08]: for referencing Jacob as Dr. Dork.

[03:03:01] [SPEAKER_08]: Because it's the truth.

[03:03:03] [SPEAKER_08]: He's a dork. He's a big dork.

[03:03:06] [SPEAKER_08]: All right.

[03:03:07] [SPEAKER_08]: Next piece of feedback comes from our friend Jason from San Jose.

[03:03:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Hi, Ben and Kristen.

[03:03:13] [SPEAKER_03]: This is Jason in San Jose providing feedback

[03:03:16] [SPEAKER_03]: for the Ted Lasso finale.

[03:03:18] [SPEAKER_03]: So long farewell.

[03:03:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, this episode was just resilient.

[03:03:24] [SPEAKER_03]: I thought it was a fantastic way to end the season

[03:03:28] [SPEAKER_03]: to end the series.

[03:03:30] [SPEAKER_03]: It had a perfect blend of comedy

[03:03:33] [SPEAKER_03]: and sentimental moments.

[03:03:35] [SPEAKER_03]: I really loved the resolution of all of the characters.

[03:03:39] [SPEAKER_03]: And yes, I would love to know what happens

[03:03:42] [SPEAKER_03]: to the characters after the season,

[03:03:44] [SPEAKER_03]: but I thought this was a perfect way to end the series.

[03:03:48] [SPEAKER_03]: There were too many things in this episode

[03:03:50] [SPEAKER_03]: to comment on to keep this feedback under three minutes.

[03:03:54] [SPEAKER_03]: I loved all the callbacks to the previous episodes,

[03:03:57] [SPEAKER_03]: including beard after hours

[03:03:59] [SPEAKER_03]: with beard wearing the wild pair of pants

[03:04:02] [SPEAKER_03]: and also having Mary, Darren and their baby

[03:04:05] [SPEAKER_03]: at Willis Beard and Jane's wedding.

[03:04:09] [SPEAKER_03]: The ussy guy showing up again, the diamond dogs

[03:04:13] [SPEAKER_03]: and of course the unnamed pilot from Sunflowers

[03:04:18] [SPEAKER_03]: finding Rebecca at the airport.

[03:04:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Speaking of the airport,

[03:04:22] [SPEAKER_03]: I had to pause it to catch some of the magazine Easter Eggs

[03:04:26] [SPEAKER_03]: as Ted was picking up a few things to read on the plane.

[03:04:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Zava was on one of them and the other one had

[03:04:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Chandy Fine, A Starfucker Is Born.

[03:04:37] [SPEAKER_03]: It's too funny.

[03:04:38] [SPEAKER_03]: And I love that Trent Crims book, The Lasso Way

[03:04:42] [SPEAKER_03]: was changed to The Richmond Way.

[03:04:45] [SPEAKER_03]: So awesome.

[03:04:47] [SPEAKER_03]: And oh yeah, I really tiered up at the believe sign

[03:04:52] [SPEAKER_03]: with everyone bringing out their little pieces

[03:04:55] [SPEAKER_03]: and putting the puzzle back together.

[03:04:58] [SPEAKER_03]: So if you haven't watched it yet,

[03:05:00] [SPEAKER_03]: there is a great six minute bonus feature on Apple

[03:05:03] [SPEAKER_03]: and it has the cast thoughts on the show

[03:05:06] [SPEAKER_03]: and saying goodbye so heartfelt.

[03:05:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, I thank you both so much for covering Lost

[03:05:14] [SPEAKER_03]: and Ted Lasso and I am super excited

[03:05:17] [SPEAKER_03]: to be watching The Good Place for the first time.

[03:05:20] [SPEAKER_03]: It's been in my queue for quite a while

[03:05:22] [SPEAKER_03]: and this podcast has pushed it back up to the top

[03:05:26] [SPEAKER_03]: and until then this has been Jason in San Jose.

[03:05:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Namaste, baby.

[03:05:32] [SPEAKER_05]: So long, farewell

[03:05:37] [SPEAKER_06]: I'll be here saying goodbye

[03:05:43] [SPEAKER_06]: Goodbye

[03:05:46] Goodbye

[03:06:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Goodbye

[03:06:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Goodbye

[03:06:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Goodbye

[03:06:52] [SPEAKER_08]: But Jason, thank you so much for continuously leaving feedback

[03:06:56] [SPEAKER_08]: every week and sharing your own personal experience with it too.

[03:07:00] [SPEAKER_08]: Not just for Lost but for Ted Lasso.

[03:07:03] [SPEAKER_08]: We're excited that you're going to be joining us for Good Place

[03:07:05] [SPEAKER_08]: especially this being a first watch for you.

[03:07:07] [SPEAKER_08]: I can't wait to hear some of your thoughts on that.

[03:07:10] [SPEAKER_04]: So working excited.

[03:07:12] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, it's just, man, I can't wait.

[03:07:16] [SPEAKER_08]: And thank you to everybody so far

[03:07:19] [SPEAKER_08]: for keeping it under the three minute mark as we asked

[03:07:22] [SPEAKER_08]: because we have two more pieces of voicemail feedback

[03:07:27] [SPEAKER_08]: and the next one that we have failed miserably

[03:07:31] [SPEAKER_08]: at keeping it under that three minute mark.

[03:07:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Good thing you have a good voice for radio, friend.

[03:07:42] [SPEAKER_08]: But you know, it is what it is.

[03:07:43] [SPEAKER_04]: How long is it?

[03:07:44] [SPEAKER_08]: It's like four and a half minutes long.

[03:07:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, Greg.

[03:07:47] [SPEAKER_08]: He failed by almost twice as much.

[03:07:50] [SPEAKER_04]: I wonder if he edited it.

[03:07:53] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, I don't know.

[03:07:54] [SPEAKER_09]: That's a good question.

[03:07:55] [SPEAKER_08]: It would be an interesting, yeah.

[03:07:56] [SPEAKER_08]: If he edited anything out.

[03:07:58] [SPEAKER_08]: But we're going to play it anyway.

[03:08:00] [SPEAKER_08]: But here it is.

[03:08:01] [SPEAKER_08]: It comes from our friend Greg.

[03:08:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Hello, Revisited.

[03:08:04] [SPEAKER_00]: This is Greg calling about the series finale of Ted Lasso.

[03:08:11] [SPEAKER_00]: This show has been one thing after another

[03:08:14] [SPEAKER_00]: that I've identified with.

[03:08:16] [SPEAKER_00]: In this episode alone, there were a number of times

[03:08:18] [SPEAKER_00]: that I got completely and utterly caught up in memories

[03:08:21] [SPEAKER_00]: of my own reflected back through the screen

[03:08:24] [SPEAKER_00]: and this amazing writing.

[03:08:27] [SPEAKER_00]: When Nate broke down and hugged Ted saying,

[03:08:30] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry, I've been Nate sobbing my weight

[03:08:35] [SPEAKER_00]: hanging from my father's shoulders.

[03:08:38] [SPEAKER_00]: I've also been Ted in that scene

[03:08:40] [SPEAKER_00]: comforting a tearful beloved child.

[03:08:43] [SPEAKER_00]: I even called Jake Buddy, which is what Ted calls Nate.

[03:08:48] [SPEAKER_00]: I've been Rebecca, tearfully hugging Jake

[03:08:52] [SPEAKER_00]: as he's about to walk down a jetway

[03:08:54] [SPEAKER_00]: onto his real life to fly away from me.

[03:08:59] [SPEAKER_00]: And Haya Waddington should have won an enemy

[03:09:01] [SPEAKER_00]: for this episode if only for the bleacher

[03:09:04] [SPEAKER_00]: and airport scenes.

[03:09:06] [SPEAKER_00]: It is only because I owe Edda Birie from The Bear

[03:09:09] [SPEAKER_00]: one that I don't burn this building to the ground

[03:09:12] [SPEAKER_00]: or perhaps channel my raging enthusiasm

[03:09:16] [SPEAKER_00]: and deposit of influence for my community.

[03:09:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Also, this episode has my absolute favorite callback.

[03:09:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Jamie quoting Ted trying to win the Oscar out on the field.

[03:09:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Look at me, look at me, I want the ball,

[03:09:29] [SPEAKER_00]: please give me the ball.

[03:09:31] [SPEAKER_00]: And every time I saw Dr. Jacob,

[03:09:34] [SPEAKER_00]: all I could think of was the word twat.

[03:09:38] [SPEAKER_05]: Twat waffle.

[03:09:39] [SPEAKER_00]: I know that I could talk about this episode

[03:09:41] [SPEAKER_00]: for a really long time, but I won't.

[03:09:43] [SPEAKER_00]: But what I will do is read this completely original

[03:09:46] [SPEAKER_00]: and absolutely not ripped off poem owed to Ted Lasso.

[03:09:52] [SPEAKER_00]: I've seen dark before, but not like this.

[03:09:56] [SPEAKER_00]: This is cold.

[03:09:57] [SPEAKER_00]: This is empty.

[03:09:58] [SPEAKER_00]: This is numb.

[03:10:00] [SPEAKER_00]: The life I knew was over.

[03:10:02] [SPEAKER_00]: The lights are out.

[03:10:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Hello darkness.

[03:10:04] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm ready to succumb.

[03:10:06] [SPEAKER_00]: I follow you around.

[03:10:08] [SPEAKER_00]: I always have, but you've gone to a place I cannot find.

[03:10:12] [SPEAKER_00]: This grief it has a gravity.

[03:10:14] [SPEAKER_00]: It pulls me down, but a tiny voice whispers in my mind.

[03:10:19] [SPEAKER_00]: You are lost.

[03:10:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Hope is gone.

[03:10:23] [SPEAKER_00]: But you must go on and do the next right thing.

[03:10:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Can there be a day beyond this night?

[03:10:30] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know anymore what is true.

[03:10:32] [SPEAKER_00]: I can't find my direction.

[03:10:35] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm all alone.

[03:10:37] [SPEAKER_00]: The only star that guided me was you.

[03:10:40] [SPEAKER_00]: How to rise from the floor when it's not you I'm rising for.

[03:10:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Just do the next right thing.

[03:10:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Take a step, step again.

[03:10:51] [SPEAKER_00]: It's all that I can do.

[03:10:53] [SPEAKER_00]: The next right thing.

[03:10:55] [SPEAKER_00]: I won't look too far ahead.

[03:10:58] [SPEAKER_00]: It's too much for me to take.

[03:10:59] [SPEAKER_00]: But break it down to this next breath, this next step,

[03:11:05] [SPEAKER_00]: this next choice is one that I can make.

[03:11:08] [SPEAKER_00]: So I'll walk through this night stumbling blindly toward the light

[03:11:12] [SPEAKER_00]: and do the next right thing.

[03:11:15] [SPEAKER_00]: And with the dawn, what comes then when it's clear

[03:11:20] [SPEAKER_00]: that everything will never be the same again?

[03:11:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Then I'll make the choice to hear that voice

[03:11:26] [SPEAKER_00]: and do the next right thing.

[03:11:29] [SPEAKER_00]: And I'll credit to the songwriters,

[03:11:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Kristen Anderson Lopez and Robert Lopez

[03:11:34] [SPEAKER_00]: because that's from Frozen 2.

[03:11:36] [SPEAKER_00]: And that is the song of the next right thing

[03:11:39] [SPEAKER_00]: sung by your own Eleanor Shellstrop, Kristen Bell.

[03:11:46] [SPEAKER_00]: And lastly, and I know I'm over my three and a half minutes,

[03:11:49] [SPEAKER_00]: but I want to read my immediate reaction feedback

[03:11:51] [SPEAKER_00]: or Facebook post from the first time

[03:11:53] [SPEAKER_00]: that I watched this finale.

[03:11:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Sorry, this finale.

[03:11:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Positivity, hope, heart warmth, parenting lessons,

[03:12:04] [SPEAKER_00]: life lessons, frozen karaoke, heartbreak, mental health,

[03:12:10] [SPEAKER_00]: divorce, betrayal, glittery pants with coffee, love,

[03:12:16] [SPEAKER_00]: dating lessons, Carol of the Bells, redemption,

[03:12:21] [SPEAKER_00]: cursing, friendship, biscuits, fucking tears, man.

[03:12:27] [SPEAKER_00]: All the tears.

[03:12:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for all of the great coverage

[03:12:32] [SPEAKER_00]: and fuck you for leaving me wanting more.

[03:12:39] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, I don't even know where to start.

[03:12:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Actually there were no biscuits in this episode.

[03:12:47] [SPEAKER_08]: Well, there was no glittery pant.

[03:12:49] [SPEAKER_08]: Oh yes, there was in the flashback.

[03:12:51] [SPEAKER_04]: But I'm just thinking the most obvious callback

[03:12:56] [SPEAKER_04]: would have been biscuits.

[03:12:58] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[03:12:59] [SPEAKER_04]: He never gave her one last thing of biscuits.

[03:13:02] [SPEAKER_08]: Because we even got spitting tea.

[03:13:05] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[03:13:05] [SPEAKER_08]: Because Rebecca spits her tea when she finds out

[03:13:07] [SPEAKER_08]: she can make like two billion dollars.

[03:13:09] [SPEAKER_08]: I would piss myself.

[03:13:11] [SPEAKER_08]: There was no biscuits.

[03:13:13] [SPEAKER_08]: Wow.

[03:13:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Excuse me for being so crass as to say piss

[03:13:16] [SPEAKER_04]: because I don't say that word very organically.

[03:13:20] [SPEAKER_04]: But this would be one of those times

[03:13:23] [SPEAKER_04]: where somebody says you have something

[03:13:25] [SPEAKER_04]: that is worth two billion dollars.

[03:13:30] [SPEAKER_04]: I would lose all bodily functions.

[03:13:35] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[03:13:36] [SPEAKER_08]: I would faint.

[03:13:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[03:13:40] [SPEAKER_08]: I've never seen Frozen 2 yet,

[03:13:43] [SPEAKER_08]: so I had no idea what that song was.

[03:13:48] [SPEAKER_08]: Is that the actual song?

[03:13:50] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.

[03:13:51] [SPEAKER_08]: I've seen it once.

[03:13:53] [SPEAKER_08]: There's two songs.

[03:13:54] [SPEAKER_04]: And one of them is...

[03:13:57] [SPEAKER_04]: And then the other one is probably Do The Next Right Thing.

[03:14:00] [SPEAKER_04]: I knew it.

[03:14:00] [SPEAKER_04]: When he kept saying Do The Next Right Thing,

[03:14:02] [SPEAKER_04]: I was like, I know this song.

[03:14:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Why do I know this song?

[03:14:04] [SPEAKER_08]: Well, no, because there must be more than two songs

[03:14:06] [SPEAKER_08]: because Into the Unknown is another one.

[03:14:08] [SPEAKER_04]: That is...

[03:14:09] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, is it?

[03:14:10] [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, okay.

[03:14:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Into the Unknown.

[03:14:13] [SPEAKER_08]: I know that song even though I've never seen the movie.

[03:14:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Well, that's how it goes.

[03:14:17] [SPEAKER_04]: That's exactly how it goes.

[03:14:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[03:14:20] [SPEAKER_04]: Anybody that...

[03:14:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[03:14:21] [SPEAKER_08]: Okay.

[03:14:21] [SPEAKER_08]: That's good to know.

[03:14:24] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm just going to...

[03:14:24] [SPEAKER_08]: The next time I watch the movie,

[03:14:26] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm going to be like, wow, Kristen nailed it.

[03:14:28] [SPEAKER_08]: So far, perfect.

[03:14:33] [SPEAKER_04]: If you're a true Friends fan,

[03:14:36] [SPEAKER_04]: you knew exactly what I was just saying.

[03:14:39] [SPEAKER_04]: And that is for a true Friends fan right there.

[03:14:42] [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, because that's not from an episode.

[03:14:44] [SPEAKER_08]: That's from an outtake.

[03:14:45] [SPEAKER_04]: So far, perfect.

[03:14:47] [SPEAKER_08]: So far, perfect.

[03:14:50] [SPEAKER_08]: But thank you, Greg,

[03:14:51] [SPEAKER_08]: for all of that even going over your allotted time.

[03:14:58] [SPEAKER_08]: But that does leave us with one more final piece of feedback

[03:15:01] [SPEAKER_08]: and one more voicemail.

[03:15:03] [SPEAKER_08]: This, of course, comes from the birthday boy himself,

[03:15:06] [SPEAKER_08]: our friend Steve Brown.

[03:15:09] [SPEAKER_07]: Hello, Ben and Kristen.

[03:15:11] [SPEAKER_07]: This is Steve and this is going to be for Ted Lasso.

[03:15:14] [SPEAKER_07]: So long.

[03:15:15] [SPEAKER_07]: Farewell.

[03:15:15] [SPEAKER_07]: And I'll try not to go long on this one.

[03:15:17] [SPEAKER_07]: I love these pundit guys.

[03:15:19] [SPEAKER_07]: No room in my head for anything but victories.

[03:15:22] [SPEAKER_07]: When Ted is in Rebecca's house and so is beard.

[03:15:25] [SPEAKER_07]: Is he wearing this one's an hour and 14 minutes.

[03:15:29] [SPEAKER_07]: So I'll try not to go too long.

[03:15:31] [SPEAKER_07]: When Nate's the assistant kit, man, Roy is thinking about stuff,

[03:15:34] [SPEAKER_07]: but not things.

[03:15:37] [SPEAKER_07]: They're going to call the Diamond Dogs together.

[03:15:40] [SPEAKER_07]: He has not.

[03:15:41] [SPEAKER_07]: No, no, no.

[03:15:42] [SPEAKER_07]: $2 billion is a lot of money.

[03:15:44] [SPEAKER_07]: And Rebecca already has a lot of money, right?

[03:15:46] [SPEAKER_07]: Look, Ted's wearing a visor with sunglasses

[03:15:48] [SPEAKER_07]: and he's not, he's Ted, not led.

[03:15:50] [SPEAKER_07]: Great.

[03:15:50] [SPEAKER_07]: They're going to stay so long farewell a bunch of times this song, right?

[03:15:53] [SPEAKER_07]: So mics are dropping everywhere,

[03:15:54] [SPEAKER_07]: but they're probably mic'd up for this song, right?

[03:15:57] [SPEAKER_07]: Is it Beards last day also?

[03:15:58] [SPEAKER_07]: Is he quitting too?

[03:15:59] [SPEAKER_07]: I thought Beards stays.

[03:16:00] [SPEAKER_07]: Is that a spoiler?

[03:16:01] [SPEAKER_07]: Rebecca's mom, I love her.

[03:16:03] [SPEAKER_07]: That kind of makes you like the grandmother that we've never had.

[03:16:05] [SPEAKER_07]: No, that's not what it is.

[03:16:06] [SPEAKER_07]: That's not right.

[03:16:07] [SPEAKER_07]: That conversation between Rebecca and her mother was just lovely.

[03:16:10] [SPEAKER_07]: Hey, I don't remember if the conflict between Roy and Jamie over Keely

[03:16:13] [SPEAKER_07]: or Keely makes a choice before the end of the series or not.

[03:16:16] [SPEAKER_07]: I can't remember.

[03:16:17] [SPEAKER_07]: I'm getting choked up in the scene between Rebecca and Ted,

[03:16:20] [SPEAKER_07]: where she's begging him to stay in all the choices like,

[03:16:22] [SPEAKER_07]: oh, what he could do and how they could live.

[03:16:25] [SPEAKER_07]: But, oh, they got into a fight, Roy and Jamie.

[03:16:28] [SPEAKER_07]: That was an idiotic move, asking her to choose.

[03:16:31] [SPEAKER_07]: So who's the kid who pictured the ticket under Winona Judd?

[03:16:34] [SPEAKER_07]: I don't remember.

[03:16:34] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, and Henry and his mom are watching the game

[03:16:36] [SPEAKER_07]: and Jack has got a poop on it because he's Jack.

[03:16:40] [SPEAKER_07]: What name is in Jack?

[03:16:41] [SPEAKER_07]: What's the doctor's name?

[03:16:42] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, Roy wants to be a timing dog.

[03:16:43] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, and Rupert is just Anthony Stewart head playing this part so well.

[03:16:49] [SPEAKER_07]: Gosh, such an arrogant bee.

[03:16:51] [SPEAKER_07]: Party shot from Sassy at Rupert.

[03:16:53] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, no.

[03:16:54] [SPEAKER_07]: The video is getting the opposite effect on the players.

[03:16:57] [SPEAKER_07]: It's making them all nostalgic and sad like me right now.

[03:17:00] [SPEAKER_07]: I'd love to see Dr. Sharon watching the game also.

[03:17:02] [SPEAKER_07]: Do they all have a piece of the Believe poster

[03:17:05] [SPEAKER_07]: and they're going to put it back together right now?

[03:17:07] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, and there it is, the Believe poster.

[03:17:09] [SPEAKER_07]: That was a bit anticlimactic over the bar and, wait,

[03:17:13] [SPEAKER_07]: no, it went through the net.

[03:17:15] [SPEAKER_07]: Okay, who's the guy got hit by the ball?

[03:17:17] [SPEAKER_07]: He's somebody right?

[03:17:18] [SPEAKER_07]: Wait, Ted knew that somebody was offside?

[03:17:20] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, now we see that doctor, whatever his name is,

[03:17:22] [SPEAKER_07]: is at the bar not in the living room anymore with Henry and Ted's ex.

[03:17:28] [SPEAKER_07]: What's your name?

[03:17:28] [SPEAKER_07]: I don't even know.

[03:17:29] [SPEAKER_07]: You've got a kiss.

[03:17:30] [SPEAKER_07]: Nice.

[03:17:30] [SPEAKER_07]: And the Sassy kid gets an Sassy.

[03:17:32] [SPEAKER_07]: And even though they got second place, but that's okay.

[03:17:34] [SPEAKER_07]: No, how is Beard going to get off this plane?

[03:17:36] [SPEAKER_07]: Well, he's off the plane and everybody thinks Ted's a jerk.

[03:17:38] [SPEAKER_07]: That's the guy from what city were they in?

[03:17:41] [SPEAKER_07]: Vienna, what not Vienna?

[03:17:43] [SPEAKER_07]: His daughter.

[03:17:44] [SPEAKER_07]: I forgot all about this.

[03:17:45] [SPEAKER_07]: Well, I'm cheering up.

[03:17:45] [SPEAKER_07]: No, Ted's was just the title change as you talk with this.

[03:17:48] [SPEAKER_07]: So, oh, later.

[03:17:54] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm sorry.

[03:17:56] [SPEAKER_08]: Steve trying to compact that into under three minutes

[03:18:00] [SPEAKER_08]: and just like losing all sense of character names

[03:18:04] [SPEAKER_08]: and everything was just, I loved it.

[03:18:08] [SPEAKER_04]: I love Steve Brown.

[03:18:10] [SPEAKER_09]: Me too.

[03:18:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Happy birthday to you.

[03:18:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Happy birthday to you.

[03:18:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Happy birthday, Steve Brown.

[03:18:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Happy birthday to you.

[03:18:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, baby.

[03:18:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Do.

[03:18:24] [SPEAKER_08]: Going forward, if you would like a birthday song from Kristen on your

[03:18:26] [SPEAKER_08]: birthday, please email.

[03:18:28] [SPEAKER_08]: And then a story of birthday.

[03:18:29] [SPEAKER_04]: I will sing to you.

[03:18:32] [SPEAKER_08]: But thank you everybody so much for leaving feedback, not just for this

[03:18:36] [SPEAKER_08]: episode, but throughout the course of the past three seasons that we've

[03:18:39] [SPEAKER_08]: been covering this show.

[03:18:41] [SPEAKER_08]: And we hope you guys continue to do it going forward as we cover the

[03:18:44] [SPEAKER_08]: Good Place.

[03:18:46] [SPEAKER_08]: If you have any final thoughts on anything as pertaining to this

[03:18:49] [SPEAKER_08]: series, please feel free to contact us easiest way.

[03:18:53] [SPEAKER_08]: Go to our website, revisited pod.com where you can find links

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[03:19:02] [SPEAKER_08]: revisited pod.com.

[03:19:04] [SPEAKER_08]: We are going to be taking a break for the next couple of weeks as we

[03:19:08] [SPEAKER_08]: both gear up for the next series that we're going to be covering,

[03:19:11] [SPEAKER_08]: which is The Good Place.

[03:19:13] [SPEAKER_08]: I am going to be going away next weekend to Colorado Springs for

[03:19:18] [SPEAKER_08]: Colorado Springs Comic Con.

[03:19:19] [SPEAKER_08]: So I'm going to be away for a couple of days.

[03:19:21] [SPEAKER_08]: Kristen is going to be gearing up to head back to class.

[03:19:25] [SPEAKER_08]: So she's going to be needing time to get all that done as well.

[03:19:29] [SPEAKER_08]: So we're going to return in September when we come back on the

[03:19:33] [SPEAKER_08]: regular for The Good Place.

[03:19:34] [SPEAKER_08]: But sometime in between, we're going to try and put together, as I

[03:19:40] [SPEAKER_08]: know Alex mentioned it on his feedback, we're going to try and

[03:19:43] [SPEAKER_08]: put together like a series wrap round table where we're going to

[03:19:49] [SPEAKER_08]: have some guests come on and we're just going to discuss the

[03:19:52] [SPEAKER_08]: series as a whole what it means to us, some of our favorite

[03:19:55] [SPEAKER_08]: moments and characters and everything.

[03:19:58] [SPEAKER_08]: Just kind of put a final button on everything for our Ted Lasso

[03:20:01] [SPEAKER_08]: coverage.

[03:20:04] [SPEAKER_08]: Also, I know it's going to be releasing soon.

[03:20:07] [SPEAKER_08]: I think it's next month in September, the getting lost

[03:20:10] [SPEAKER_08]: documentary is going to be releasing.

[03:20:14] [SPEAKER_08]: We're going to jump back and revisit that as well after it

[03:20:16] [SPEAKER_08]: releases.

[03:20:17] [SPEAKER_08]: I know Jason wants to come on.

[03:20:19] [SPEAKER_08]: Jason wants to come on.

[03:20:21] [SPEAKER_08]: Jim Pete is going to be joining us for that as well.

[03:20:25] [SPEAKER_08]: So yeah, we'll probably do a round table for that lost

[03:20:28] [SPEAKER_08]: documentary too when that releases.

[03:20:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Can't wait.

[03:20:32] [SPEAKER_04]: We should include my daughter.

[03:20:35] [SPEAKER_08]: We probably could include Danny if she'd be willing to do it.

[03:20:41] [SPEAKER_08]: Who knows?

[03:20:41] [SPEAKER_08]: We'll figure it out.

[03:20:43] [SPEAKER_04]: The amount of work and effort and mental energy that she

[03:20:50] [SPEAKER_04]: put into watching that show was impressive.

[03:20:53] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[03:20:54] [SPEAKER_08]: Some of her thoughts on that show are impressive too.

[03:20:57] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[03:20:58] [SPEAKER_04]: She's a smart cookie, that girl.

[03:21:00] [SPEAKER_08]: But yeah, that documentary I think drops at the end of

[03:21:02] [SPEAKER_08]: September.

[03:21:04] [SPEAKER_08]: Sometime before the end of the year, hopefully we'll do

[03:21:06] [SPEAKER_08]: something.

[03:21:07] [SPEAKER_08]: We'll jump back to lost again for one more time and talk

[03:21:11] [SPEAKER_08]: about that.

[03:21:14] [SPEAKER_08]: So yeah, stick it out over the next couple weeks.

[03:21:16] [SPEAKER_08]: We'll be back in September for good place.

[03:21:18] [SPEAKER_08]: But sometime in between you'll see a round table

[03:21:21] [SPEAKER_08]: episode drop of that.

[03:21:23] [SPEAKER_08]: Any final, well, recommendations for this week.

[03:21:27] [SPEAKER_08]: Anything on your end you want people to check out.

[03:21:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, you know what?

[03:21:33] [SPEAKER_04]: I just saw the movie Children of Men for the first time

[03:21:35] [SPEAKER_04]: yesterday and it was freaking fantastic.

[03:21:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Holy cow.

[03:21:40] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[03:21:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Wow, was that good?

[03:21:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Have you seen it?

[03:21:44] [SPEAKER_08]: I have.

[03:21:44] [SPEAKER_08]: It's been a while but I have seen it before.

[03:21:47] [SPEAKER_04]: So good.

[03:21:48] [SPEAKER_04]: So, so good.

[03:21:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Really impressed.

[03:21:51] [SPEAKER_04]: I recommend seeing Children of Men.

[03:21:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[03:21:54] [SPEAKER_08]: My recommendation is actually, I'm revisiting another show

[03:21:58] [SPEAKER_08]: that I haven't, I know you're going to give me crap

[03:22:00] [SPEAKER_08]: because I haven't started the wire yet.

[03:22:03] [SPEAKER_08]: Or the West Wing or anything else.

[03:22:05] [SPEAKER_08]: But I had to the moment I saw it.

[03:22:08] [SPEAKER_08]: There's a show that I loved when it was on and it

[03:22:10] [SPEAKER_08]: hasn't been streaming since.

[03:22:12] [SPEAKER_08]: It's been streaming nowhere since and it finally

[03:22:15] [SPEAKER_08]: started streaming and that is the Drew Carey

[03:22:19] [SPEAKER_08]: show which I've been, I've been rewatching episodes

[03:22:24] [SPEAKER_08]: of that again casually, not like binging.

[03:22:28] [SPEAKER_08]: But man, I forgot how damn funny that show was.

[03:22:33] [SPEAKER_08]: And it ran for nine seasons.

[03:22:37] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[03:22:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Which you know, it never thought that Drew Carey was funny

[03:22:41] [SPEAKER_04]: though ever.

[03:22:41] [SPEAKER_04]: No.

[03:22:42] [SPEAKER_04]: I love him on the prices right but I just don't find him

[03:22:44] [SPEAKER_04]: funny.

[03:22:45] [SPEAKER_08]: I think he's funny.

[03:22:47] [SPEAKER_04]: No, a lot of people do.

[03:22:49] [SPEAKER_08]: And it's been fun going back and revisiting too

[03:22:52] [SPEAKER_08]: because I'm only in the first season.

[03:22:54] [SPEAKER_08]: And I was reminded that Tim Allen isn't an episode.

[03:22:58] [SPEAKER_08]: He actually, he's in a cold open where he's just,

[03:23:02] [SPEAKER_08]: he's stuck in a tree because he parachuted in by accident.

[03:23:05] [SPEAKER_08]: He plays himself.

[03:23:06] [SPEAKER_08]: He plays Tim Allen.

[03:23:09] [SPEAKER_08]: There's another episode with Jamie Lee Curtis

[03:23:12] [SPEAKER_08]: where she plays like this biker barber,

[03:23:16] [SPEAKER_08]: which is awesome.

[03:23:18] [SPEAKER_08]: So I've been having a lot of fun but yeah,

[03:23:20] [SPEAKER_08]: the Drew Carey show is streaming again.

[03:23:23] [SPEAKER_04]: So good.

[03:23:24] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm glad that you're enjoying it.

[03:23:25] [SPEAKER_08]: If you want to go check it out, you should check that out.

[03:23:30] [SPEAKER_08]: Any final no apologies for as long as this ran.

[03:23:33] [SPEAKER_08]: We warned you.

[03:23:34] [SPEAKER_04]: No, I have nothing else.

[03:23:36] [SPEAKER_08]: Nothing else.

[03:23:37] [SPEAKER_08]: Okay.

[03:23:38] [SPEAKER_04]: So then so much to do today.

[03:23:42] [SPEAKER_08]: So then with that being said, thank you once again everybody

[03:23:46] [SPEAKER_08]: for joining us on the coverage of Ted Lasso as well as

[03:23:50] [SPEAKER_08]: lost before that.

[03:23:51] [SPEAKER_08]: We hope you continue to stick with us as we dive into

[03:23:54] [SPEAKER_08]: the good place going forward because that's going to be a

[03:23:58] [SPEAKER_08]: lot of fun as well.

[03:24:01] [SPEAKER_08]: But thank you for listening, subscribing, telling your friends

[03:24:03] [SPEAKER_08]: about the podcast, all that you guys do.

[03:24:06] [SPEAKER_08]: But until next time, I'm going to say it one more time

[03:24:09] [SPEAKER_08]: because we're going to do the round table so we can still get

[03:24:12] [SPEAKER_08]: away with it one more time.

[03:24:13] [SPEAKER_08]: So we'll say it one more time.

[03:24:16] [SPEAKER_08]: We'll see you guys one more time.

[03:24:18] [SPEAKER_08]: Back out on the pitch.

[03:24:20] [SPEAKER_08]: Take care.

[03:24:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Namaste.