Episode 133: TED LASSO S03E04 "Big Week"

[00:00:00] So, the one thing we cannot do against West Ham is the false nine.

[00:00:16] Because that's nice shit.

[00:00:18] Exactly.

[00:00:19] So we decided to go with our classic 442.

[00:00:21] Which is exactly what that pretty specs is today.

[00:00:23] So we do the opposite.

[00:00:24] Five up front.

[00:00:25] Full on attack.

[00:00:27] But, Nate knows we're gonna do that.

[00:00:30] Because Nate knows that we're trying to outthink him by thinking like him.

[00:00:34] Well fuck Nate.

[00:00:36] Fuck thinking and fucking socrates.

[00:00:38] So we gotta stop thinking like Nate.

[00:00:40] And start thinking like Nate would think we would think if Nate were thinking like

[00:00:43] us.

[00:00:44] And then do the last thing that Nate thinking like us, thinking like Nate thinking like

[00:00:47] us, would ever expect us to do.

[00:00:50] Have Zava drop back and play Nate's false nine.

[00:00:54] For our fucking love.

[00:00:57] Brilliant.

[00:00:58] That's my sleep is our day group effort.

[00:01:00] And do you have one question?

[00:01:01] Of course.

[00:01:02] Your fucking cares.

[00:01:03] Do you think Zava will do it?

[00:01:08] Fuck!

[00:01:41] Welcome to another episode of The Revisited Podcast.

[00:01:44] I'm Ben.

[00:01:46] And I'm Kristin.

[00:01:48] This week we are revisiting Ted Lasso season three episode four big week.

[00:01:54] Hey, Kristin guess what?

[00:01:55] What?

[00:01:56] Chickabuff.

[00:01:57] No!

[00:01:58] It's so nice.

[00:02:01] We took a little bit of a break.

[00:02:03] Had to.

[00:02:04] Had to.

[00:02:05] We both had quite a bit going on that it just would have been impossible to schedule

[00:02:12] it.

[00:02:13] And even if we did like we wouldn't have had our full concentration wouldn't have

[00:02:17] been on it.

[00:02:18] Which you know, it would have been lacking.

[00:02:21] So but you had stuff going on with you know with your job as a teacher that you

[00:02:26] really had to focus on plus your own studies that you were going through.

[00:02:31] I had I was coming off of WrestleMania weekend, which we did do an episode after

[00:02:36] that but I had Fan Expo Philadelphia come up and then I was sick for two

[00:02:42] freaking weeks afterwards with Concrud, which I've never gotten before.

[00:02:48] And that did not that was not fun.

[00:02:51] You know it happens.

[00:02:55] I'm still kind of recovering from it too.

[00:02:56] I'm not completely recovered, but I'm for the most part recovered and it was an

[00:03:04] amazing weekend.

[00:03:06] It's so much fun.

[00:03:08] I'm so glad that you had a good time.

[00:03:10] I got to share the stage with Alan Tudyk, which I showed you a little bit

[00:03:15] of a clip of before we started.

[00:03:17] Yeah.

[00:03:17] And then he turned it off and I was very sad.

[00:03:20] Well unless we were going to sit there for 40 freaking minutes and watch

[00:03:23] it, which I would have.

[00:03:23] I would have been fine with it.

[00:03:24] We've been sitting here for like an hour and a half already, man.

[00:03:28] I know.

[00:03:29] I know.

[00:03:30] But Alan Tudyk, Tom Kavanaugh, some of the cast of The Office,

[00:03:35] a National Lampoon's reunion with I got to share the stage with Chevy

[00:03:40] fucking Chase.

[00:03:42] How was that?

[00:03:43] Because I asked you and you didn't tell me.

[00:03:45] And I'm really more interested in how it was with Randy Quaid.

[00:03:48] OK, so.

[00:03:50] Ran.

[00:03:50] So the panel was with.

[00:03:54] Randy Quaid, Beverly D'Angelo, Dana Baron, who played the daughter,

[00:03:57] the original Audrey in the vacation movie and Chevy.

[00:04:02] Beverly, Dana and Randy were there on Friday and the panel wasn't until Sunday.

[00:04:06] Chevy didn't get there till Saturday.

[00:04:09] So I wasn't going to really have an opportunity to meet Chevy before the panel.

[00:04:13] But any time I get there, I usually like to take advantage of time

[00:04:17] and go meet people at their tables to introduce myself.

[00:04:19] So since Beverly, Dana and Randy were there on Friday, I was like,

[00:04:23] I'm going to go and introduce myself.

[00:04:26] Beverly D'Angelo was incredibly nice.

[00:04:29] Dana Baron, even nicer.

[00:04:31] And then I was like, man, like the two people I'm worried

[00:04:34] about the most on this panel are Randy Quaid and Chevy Chase.

[00:04:38] Chevy has been because Chevy has is pretty notorious for kind of being a dick.

[00:04:44] Kind of.

[00:04:45] And Randy is notorious for being that shit crazy.

[00:04:51] And on the lamb, right?

[00:04:53] A pair of I guess that's done with.

[00:04:56] I guess because he's done cons for a couple years now.

[00:04:59] So I guess like he's so apparently I looked into it.

[00:05:02] Apparently he wasn't on the lamb.

[00:05:05] He was him and his wife were left the country on the run

[00:05:09] because they were paranoid that the Hollywood.

[00:05:13] Oh God, what's the?

[00:05:16] The Hollywood Illuminati were out to murder him and his wife.

[00:05:20] Stop taking acid.

[00:05:22] Just stop taking acid.

[00:05:25] So like I was like, oh man, like I don't know what to expect from this panel.

[00:05:28] Like I don't know how Randy's going to be.

[00:05:30] I don't know if Chevy is going to be.

[00:05:31] I'm totally comforted by Beverly and Dana, even though I didn't

[00:05:35] wasn't worried about them to begin with.

[00:05:36] So I was like, all right, you know what?

[00:05:38] Screw it.

[00:05:38] I'm going to go up and I'm going to introduce myself to Randy.

[00:05:41] Let me tell you, I spent 20 minutes talking to him.

[00:05:45] And he was incredibly delightful.

[00:05:49] I'm not going to lie.

[00:05:50] He talked about Independence Day.

[00:05:52] I did.

[00:05:54] I was he was incredibly nice, very open minded, very down to earth,

[00:06:02] like didn't sound like paranoid or crazy or anything.

[00:06:05] And a friend of mine told me like he thinks a lot of that

[00:06:09] influence comes more from his wife.

[00:06:11] So when he's not with his wife, he's actually normal.

[00:06:15] So is he like a blink twice if you're under duress kind of guy then?

[00:06:19] I guess maybe.

[00:06:22] How was he in the panel?

[00:06:23] So OK.

[00:06:25] So the panel. All right.

[00:06:29] So wait, before we go to the panel, did you also go to Chevy Chase's

[00:06:33] table and meet him first?

[00:06:34] No, I just got done telling you I knew I wasn't going to get to meet him.

[00:06:37] Oh, God, I got it.

[00:06:38] OK, sorry.

[00:06:39] So I didn't get to meet Chevy till like minutes before the panel.

[00:06:43] So backstage backstage.

[00:06:45] Before the panel, which was the last but the final panel on Sunday.

[00:06:48] So now he's 80.

[00:06:51] I think he just turned 80 and he he gets carted around.

[00:06:55] He can walk and he can stand, but his legs are really weak.

[00:06:59] So when he goes long distances, they move him in a wheelchair.

[00:07:01] It's because he doesn't have a leg to stand on most of the time

[00:07:04] with his arguments. But it's a boom.

[00:07:08] So we get backstage.

[00:07:09] I introduced myself to Chevy, Beverly Dana and Randy are all there.

[00:07:13] They all remember me from Friday, so I don't have to introduce myself to them,

[00:07:16] which is great. Chevy's agent, not his appearance agent,

[00:07:21] his actual agent comes up to me.

[00:07:25] He's like, are you the moderator?

[00:07:26] I was like, yes, I'm like, my name is Ben.

[00:07:28] I'm the moderator.

[00:07:28] He's like, good, can I speak to you for a second?

[00:07:30] Great. I was like, sure.

[00:07:33] Of course.

[00:07:34] He pulls me aside.

[00:07:35] He's like, it's a pleasure to meet you.

[00:07:38] Welcome to the show.

[00:07:40] I was like, you're you're telling me that you're calling this a show?

[00:07:44] He's like, yes, this will be a show.

[00:07:47] He's just so you know, I'm like, hmm, no pressure whatsoever.

[00:07:52] Give you reasons.

[00:07:54] Is it that's just how Chevy is?

[00:07:56] No, but he didn't say like, stay away from this or maybe.

[00:08:00] No, I was given explicit instructions to introduce them a certain way

[00:08:05] in a particular order because they had to sit in a particular

[00:08:08] Randy needed to be next to Chevy and Beverly had to be on the opposite side of Randy.

[00:08:14] Didn't matter which seat he just she just needed to be on the opposite side of Randy.

[00:08:19] Randy and Chevy needed to be next to each other.

[00:08:22] So here's where the big challenge comes in.

[00:08:27] I don't know how many people know this, but Dana Baron is paralyzed.

[00:08:29] She's in a motorized wheelchair. Oh.

[00:08:32] She doesn't do the panel in the wheelchair.

[00:08:34] She comes up on stage and they pick her up out of the chair and they put her into

[00:08:38] one of the chairs on stage.

[00:08:39] She's very self-conscious about this and she doesn't want people taking pictures

[00:08:44] of her wheelchair, of people pricking her up and putting her in the chair

[00:08:49] and adjusting her and all that stuff.

[00:08:50] It's very much FDR mentality.

[00:08:53] But apparently the con never took that into account.

[00:08:57] Shut up.

[00:08:59] So she is incredibly upset backstage.

[00:09:03] I would be too.

[00:09:04] Because there's already an audience out there preparing.

[00:09:07] Nobody made preparations for this.

[00:09:08] Nobody told me about this.

[00:09:10] There's no screen that they can put up real quick.

[00:09:12] No, there's there's not enough.

[00:09:14] So at one point, like we're already like this panel was supposed to start at 3.30.

[00:09:20] It's now 3.45 and everybody's just sitting backstage trying to figure out what to do.

[00:09:25] She's going back and forth in the wheelchair trying to figure out like until finally

[00:09:30] like she at like 3.40.

[00:09:31] She's like, I'm just going out there.

[00:09:33] Like there's nothing that can be done.

[00:09:35] So she goes out there.

[00:09:37] They drive her up onto the stage.

[00:09:41] The lights are already up and everything people can see or like everybody in the audience can see her.

[00:09:45] So finally, I I turned to the stage manager.

[00:09:48] I was like, we need to get people out there to stand in front of her.

[00:09:52] Like let's just block her as much as we can.

[00:09:55] So there's me and like two or three other security guys and the stage manager

[00:10:00] and one of the other stage assistants were all standing there and kind of like an arc.

[00:10:03] She still doesn't want to get put be brought up out of her chair

[00:10:06] because the lights are too bright, people can still see.

[00:10:09] And I'm like, I like I feel so bad for her at this point because she would.

[00:10:13] I would say nice doesn't deserve this.

[00:10:15] Pretty sure this is violating her civil liberties as well.

[00:10:18] The con dropped the ball on this.

[00:10:21] And I'm not saying I'm not saying the name of the con, even though I already did earlier.

[00:10:25] I'm not mentioning it in this conversation.

[00:10:28] Most people already know what it is.

[00:10:30] So finally, like I was like, well, what if we brought the lights down?

[00:10:34] So we take we turn all the lights off.

[00:10:37] We bring the house lights down.

[00:10:38] We bring like the back lights down.

[00:10:41] It's still in the convention center.

[00:10:43] So you can still see, but at least now it's dark enough

[00:10:45] that pictures aren't going to come out like incredibly clear.

[00:10:50] At this point, Beverly just walks out because she knows Dane is upset.

[00:10:55] So she wants to be there to kind of like help calm.

[00:10:59] That's amazing.

[00:11:00] People see her come out in their chair and for that's how we knew that Beverly came out.

[00:11:05] So she's sitting in the chair while they're moving next to Dana,

[00:11:08] while they're putting Dane in the chair and adjusting her and everything.

[00:11:10] And then at that point, I'm like, when she's ready to go

[00:11:13] and they're about to take the wheelchair off, I looked at Lance,

[00:11:16] the stage manager, I was like, hey, I was like,

[00:11:18] it doesn't make sense to announce two people and not announce the other two who are

[00:11:22] already out here. I think the house lights are already down.

[00:11:24] Let's just bring Chevy and Randy out.

[00:11:26] They're going to be seen. It doesn't matter at this point.

[00:11:29] I was like, let's just bring them out.

[00:11:30] We'll bring the house lights up and then I'll do a stage introduction of every

[00:11:32] time he's not OK with that.

[00:11:34] No, Chevy was fine with it. Oh, OK.

[00:11:36] So the board of the Dana, all four of them.

[00:11:38] Yes. Good.

[00:11:40] So Chevy and Randy come out.

[00:11:42] Why is she paralyzed? What happened?

[00:11:44] I don't know. And I wasn't going to ask you.

[00:11:46] OK.

[00:11:48] I don't know if it's neurological.

[00:11:50] Like, I don't know if it was an accident.

[00:11:51] I just don't know.

[00:11:53] And I don't think it's very public either because I tried looking and I couldn't

[00:11:57] find a reason anywhere.

[00:11:59] So she's clearly very, very self-conscious about it.

[00:12:04] So Chevy and Randy come out.

[00:12:06] People see them and they applaud and then they bring the lights up and I

[00:12:08] do the introduction and we do the panel.

[00:12:11] And the panel was actually Chevy being Chevy, like talking over people,

[00:12:16] making jokes, but other people.

[00:12:19] And like all of the there were no audience questions because we were short on time.

[00:12:23] So I was like, I'm just going to do everything and every all the agents were

[00:12:26] like, perfect, like just go with it.

[00:12:29] Because Randy doesn't want to talk about private stuff anyway.

[00:12:31] He just wants to talk career.

[00:12:34] And nobody knows how Chevy is going to react to an audience question.

[00:12:36] So I handled.

[00:12:38] I took over the wire.

[00:12:39] You such an asshole.

[00:12:40] Yeah, like I so I took over the panel and I was asking questions.

[00:12:45] Chevy was being Chevy.

[00:12:46] I made Chevy laugh at one point, which I take that as a point of pride

[00:12:51] because when you can make a legendary comedian laugh, like you're, you know,

[00:12:55] you're good and actually had a number of people, both

[00:12:58] con staff and audience members tell me like, hey, you made Chevy laugh.

[00:13:03] That was kind of cool.

[00:13:03] I'm like, yeah, I'm like, I was pretty damn cool.

[00:13:07] Is there footage of any of this?

[00:13:08] I don't I haven't been able to find anything.

[00:13:11] Love to find was it a show?

[00:13:13] So here so here's the thing.

[00:13:16] Panel ends, we go backstage by the time I get backstage,

[00:13:20] they're still working on getting Dana off the stage.

[00:13:23] I go backstage, Beverly and Randy already gone.

[00:13:26] So I missed my opportunity.

[00:13:28] Chevy's there.

[00:13:29] He's either getting ready to see them in the wheelchair.

[00:13:32] And I go up to Chevy.

[00:13:33] I was like, I'm not missing an opportunity to get a picture with Chevy.

[00:13:36] Like Beverly and Randy.

[00:13:38] You're a huge community fan.

[00:13:40] Well, that too.

[00:13:41] Yeah. And I just I like Chevy's older like

[00:13:44] Fletch and the National Lampoon's movies, like they're great.

[00:13:47] And he's a dick or not.

[00:13:49] He is a comedy legend.

[00:13:51] Yeah. So as he's getting ready to sit down in the wheelchair,

[00:13:55] I'm like, oh, should I ask?

[00:13:56] Should I not ask?

[00:13:57] I was like, fuck it.

[00:13:57] Like worse that happens is he says no.

[00:13:59] And he beats a dick to me, whatever.

[00:14:01] So he's he's sitting in the wheelchair and I walk up and like Chevy.

[00:14:05] Like, I know I'm like you could say no, because you're already sitting down.

[00:14:09] I think, but is it possible to get a picture with you?

[00:14:11] And he was incredibly nice about it.

[00:14:14] He's like, oh, yeah, he's like, that's fine.

[00:14:15] He's like, and he stands up and he's like, yeah, he's like, come on.

[00:14:17] He's like, let's get a picture together.

[00:14:19] He's like, that was great.

[00:14:20] That was a lot of fun.

[00:14:20] Let's take the picture.

[00:14:21] So we take the picture together and he gets back in the wheelchair

[00:14:24] and they're wheeling them off and his agent comes up to me

[00:14:28] and he says, just so you know, very well done.

[00:14:32] That was great.

[00:14:33] I'm like, so it wasn't a shit show.

[00:14:35] He's like, oh, no, it was a shit show.

[00:14:38] He's like, but that was the least shit show of shit shows I've ever seen Chevy be.

[00:14:44] He's like, he's like, you're almost like a Chevy whisperer.

[00:14:48] I'm like, really?

[00:14:48] He's like, yeah, he's like, you were asking engaging questions

[00:14:51] that Chevy wasn't avoiding.

[00:14:53] He was actually answering the questions because I think he actually felt

[00:14:58] they were good questions.

[00:15:00] He's like, and yes, he talked over Beverly and he talked over Dana.

[00:15:03] He's like, but like him and Randy were making jokes about things.

[00:15:07] And but he was actually answering the questions.

[00:15:09] So Chevy is kind of a misogynist.

[00:15:13] Um, I.

[00:15:16] I think he is.

[00:15:17] But in the in the sense that he doesn't realize he's being it,

[00:15:20] I think it's just this nature.

[00:15:21] Worst kind. I know.

[00:15:23] I think it's just this nature.

[00:15:24] And like a lot of the conversation was being centered around the worst

[00:15:27] kind of excuse for him, by the way.

[00:15:30] Well, I know, I know.

[00:15:32] And but also at the same time, like him and Randy were talking,

[00:15:35] Beverly was getting in.

[00:15:37] She was she was definitely getting her answer.

[00:15:39] But I already felt bad for Dana at this point

[00:15:41] because of everything that she was going through

[00:15:43] and she wasn't getting to talk much, not because people were talking over her,

[00:15:47] but just because she really wasn't.

[00:15:51] I guess she's not the star caliber that the other three are.

[00:15:54] Yeah. So I looked at Dana and I felt bad.

[00:15:57] I'm like, I have to in my head.

[00:15:58] I'm like, I have to get Dana in this conversation.

[00:16:00] Like I have to.

[00:16:02] Because it I'm going to if after everything she just went through

[00:16:06] to be on this stage, if she doesn't get a chance to talk, that's just horrible.

[00:16:10] Yeah. So I purposely at one point I was like, Dana,

[00:16:14] I think I want to focus on you for a minute.

[00:16:16] I was like, you know, you entered into this as a very young child,

[00:16:18] like you were in your teens when you did this.

[00:16:20] What was it like working with people

[00:16:22] like Chevy was already established, Beverly and Randy were already established?

[00:16:25] Like what was it like for you kind of coming into this

[00:16:28] with this caliber of actors as somebody who was new to the industry?

[00:16:34] And she looked at me and I you can tell

[00:16:40] when somebody looks at you, there's a way you can tell

[00:16:43] when somebody is thanking you without saying it.

[00:16:46] Yeah. Oh yeah.

[00:16:47] And that's what I got from Dana.

[00:16:49] Like she made eye contact with me and she gave me that look as in like, thank you.

[00:16:53] Thank you for seeing me.

[00:16:56] Yeah, for making me seen on this panel and incorporating me.

[00:17:00] And like she shot me that look and then she got on the mic

[00:17:03] and she's like, that is a great question.

[00:17:05] And then she went into answering the question.

[00:17:07] So all in all, it was the most challenging panel of the weekend.

[00:17:13] But.

[00:17:15] I got to share the stage with Chevy Chase,

[00:17:18] Randy Quaid, Dana Baron and Beverly D'Angelo.

[00:17:21] So awesome. It was great.

[00:17:23] And I will say, too, on another note.

[00:17:27] I was given a panel that weekend

[00:17:31] of somebody that I didn't want, but didn't express that I didn't want it.

[00:17:36] So I got it anyway.

[00:17:37] How that went.

[00:17:38] I was I've been meaning to ask you.

[00:17:40] I was given the panel with Gina Carano, who was a very.

[00:17:45] And for listeners, I apologize. I'm almost done with this.

[00:17:50] I, Kristen and I haven't we haven't talked about this yet.

[00:17:52] We've been talking weeks.

[00:17:54] I know. So.

[00:17:57] I went to.

[00:17:58] So Saturday is the busiest day of the show.

[00:18:01] So I went past Gina's table.

[00:18:04] Two times on Saturday.

[00:18:07] Just to try and meet her before the panel.

[00:18:08] No, no, just to gauge her line because I wanted to see how popular she was.

[00:18:12] Oh, I see. In in Philly.

[00:18:16] And she had nobody in her line both times I went there.

[00:18:21] And I'm like, I'm like this panel on Sunday is going to suck.

[00:18:26] I was like, because there's probably not going to be a crowd.

[00:18:28] So I'm going to have to carry 45 minutes of this panel.

[00:18:30] So Saturday night, I went home and frantically redid all my prep.

[00:18:34] I was like, I got to throw so much more into this

[00:18:36] because I'm going to have to cover 45 minutes.

[00:18:41] So the panel approaches.

[00:18:43] She comes backstage and I introduced myself to her.

[00:18:46] She is actually incredibly nice, incredibly sweet.

[00:18:51] Very friendly, very engaging.

[00:18:52] And I said to her, I was like, OK, let's just put this out there.

[00:18:56] Is there anything that you want to avoid talking about?

[00:18:59] You don't want to talk about?

[00:19:00] She's like, nope, I'll talk about anything that comes up.

[00:19:02] I was like in the back of my mind, I'm like, oh, shit.

[00:19:05] You're like, I don't want to do that, though.

[00:19:07] What's what's what's going to happen?

[00:19:09] So we go out, we do the panel.

[00:19:11] There is a small audience, but it's not huge.

[00:19:14] And it should not have been a made stage panel

[00:19:16] because it is it looks very barren for how many people.

[00:19:21] You think we're there?

[00:19:22] So I think the main stage is set up for seven hundred.

[00:19:27] Maybe more.

[00:19:28] And I would say there was maybe seventy five people.

[00:19:34] In the crowd, it looked very empty.

[00:19:36] Like I said, it should have been a smaller room.

[00:19:39] So I'm very good about gauging how a panel is going to go

[00:19:43] within the first five minutes.

[00:19:45] I know in the first five minutes,

[00:19:47] whether or not I'm going to need my notes

[00:19:49] or whether or not this is just going to be casual conversation.

[00:19:52] And I'm not going to need my notes.

[00:19:54] And within the first five minutes of that panel,

[00:19:56] I hadn't gone to my notes once.

[00:19:59] So it's like, I'm good.

[00:20:00] Like if there are no audience questions, I'm fine.

[00:20:04] I've got this because we can.

[00:20:06] There's enough casual banter between the two of us

[00:20:08] that this will stretch to fill the forty five minutes.

[00:20:12] And we did get some audience questions too.

[00:20:15] Or they kind.

[00:20:17] They were very kind.

[00:20:18] People asking about Star Wars, asking about Deadpool and such.

[00:20:23] The Disney lawsuit did come up in one question.

[00:20:26] She can't talk about that, though.

[00:20:29] She can if she wants to.

[00:20:31] OK, but she didn't.

[00:20:32] She actually said that an NDA would be signed.

[00:20:36] She actually handled it very well.

[00:20:40] And she said, look, because the question was like,

[00:20:43] with everything going on with the Disney lawsuit,

[00:20:46] if Disney ever apologized, would she go back to Star Wars?

[00:20:49] Would she go back to the Mandalorian and play in Cara Dune?

[00:20:52] And she didn't say yes or no.

[00:20:55] She said.

[00:20:57] I don't know what the future holds.

[00:21:00] I don't know what a year from now

[00:21:02] will happen a year from now, five years from now, ten years from now.

[00:21:05] All I can tell you is how much it meant to me to be part of that universe

[00:21:09] and to play that character and what that character meant to fans.

[00:21:14] It was the most PC way to answer that question, and she handled it perfectly.

[00:21:18] Like she even when the panel was over,

[00:21:20] she even the first thing she said offstage when she looked like me

[00:21:23] and her handler and the stage manager, she's like, like, did I handle that?

[00:21:27] I was like, you handled that perfectly.

[00:21:29] Like you didn't play either side.

[00:21:31] Like it was perfectly neutral down the middle.

[00:21:33] She's like, OK, good, because that's what I was going for.

[00:21:37] Apparently news outlets didn't see it that way.

[00:21:39] News outlets started putting out stories

[00:21:42] that Gina Carano states that she would return to Star Wars universe.

[00:21:47] And then she rebutted it and said, like, that's not what I said.

[00:21:50] That's actually not what I said.

[00:21:52] This is the issue with like she got.

[00:21:54] She went on like this is the issue with media sources,

[00:21:57] like putting words in my mouth.

[00:21:58] And I actually had to sit there and I'm like, she's right.

[00:22:02] That's not what she said.

[00:22:04] Like I actually have to defend her on this because I was there.

[00:22:08] I heard what she said.

[00:22:10] She did not say she would return to the Star Wars universe.

[00:22:13] She specifically made a point not to say that.

[00:22:16] Right. And these outlets are putting words in her mouth.

[00:22:21] So I don't agree with her views, but she was very pleasant.

[00:22:24] She was very nice.

[00:22:25] We've chatted for like 20 minutes after the panel was over about like

[00:22:29] places to eat and filly and like taking from Philly.

[00:22:34] No, she had never been there before.

[00:22:36] Oh, so you were kind of giving her pointers.

[00:22:38] Yeah, she was asking like, where's the good places to go?

[00:22:41] And you said, Geno's.

[00:22:45] She knows, isn't in Geno's.

[00:22:47] Wait, oh, no, I told her avoid Pat's and she knows like the.

[00:22:50] No, I know that's why that's why I made that joke.

[00:22:52] Well, she wanted a restaurant anyway.

[00:22:56] So one more quick story and then I promise we'll go into that.

[00:23:01] Don't worry.

[00:23:02] She's most of you won't hear this because it'll be the show.

[00:23:05] Show coverage starts here.

[00:23:07] Yeah, pretty much.

[00:23:08] Yeah, you'll know in the show notes.

[00:23:10] I'll make this story.

[00:23:12] So Alan Tudyk was my favorite panel of the weekend.

[00:23:14] Might have become my favorite panel I've ever done.

[00:23:17] But a very close second was Tom Kavanaugh from The Flash and a bunch of other people.

[00:23:22] He was just like, when I tell you, I didn't check my show notes once

[00:23:26] or my prep notes once didn't check my notes once.

[00:23:30] Like it was just incredible banter back and forth.

[00:23:34] This is the tasty cake story I mentioned to you beforehand.

[00:23:38] So him and actor Michael Ian Black have a podcast

[00:23:41] and it's called Mike and Tom Eat Snacks.

[00:23:44] All it is is the two of them having uncensored conversations while checking out

[00:23:48] a new snack. I love it.

[00:23:50] So I was like, you know what? Great idea.

[00:23:52] I'm going to play into this and I'm going to bring him some tastes of Philly.

[00:23:54] So I brought him her's potato chips and butterscotch crimpets,

[00:23:59] tasty cakes and peanut butter candy cake, tasty cakes.

[00:24:02] This is your tasty cake story.

[00:24:03] This is my tasty cake story.

[00:24:04] So I mentioned I had them, you know, when we were talking about the podcast

[00:24:08] and he's like, oh, he's like, but if he's like, if you have snacks,

[00:24:10] I'll gladly take him.

[00:24:11] So we go through, we do the panel.

[00:24:13] We're backstage

[00:24:16] and I have the bag of snacks and I hand them to him and he looks at me.

[00:24:18] He goes, oh, you actually brought me snacks.

[00:24:21] Yeah. I was like, yeah.

[00:24:23] Like, what did you think I was lying?

[00:24:24] And he's like, no, I just didn't think anything of it.

[00:24:27] He's like, let's let's take a look.

[00:24:28] What do you got?

[00:24:29] So I show him the hers potato chips.

[00:24:31] I say, OK, I've had those before, but they're good.

[00:24:33] I'll take them show him the butterscotch crimpets.

[00:24:36] He's like, OK, now we're speaking my language.

[00:24:39] And then I show him the peanut butter candy case.

[00:24:40] He's like, oh, he's like, I think we just became best friends through snacks.

[00:24:47] So we're chatting a little bit and everything.

[00:24:50] I'm like, Tom, I'm like, I have a podcast.

[00:24:51] I'd love to have you on.

[00:24:52] Can I reach out to your publicist?

[00:24:54] He says, no.

[00:24:55] He's like, you're not reaching out to my publicist.

[00:24:56] He's like, you're reaching out to me.

[00:24:58] Give me your phone.

[00:24:59] Takes my phone, gives me his phone number, gives his email.

[00:25:02] He's like, reach out.

[00:25:03] He's like, we will set this up.

[00:25:05] And we have already been talking since since the show.

[00:25:08] So this was on Saturday.

[00:25:11] So on Sunday, I go back to his table.

[00:25:13] He's wrapping everything up and I just go to say, OK, say thank you and say goodbye.

[00:25:18] And as I'm walking up to his table, he sees me.

[00:25:20] He's like, Ben, guess what I did last night?

[00:25:23] I'm like, you ate my snacks.

[00:25:24] He's like, I ate your fucking snacks.

[00:25:26] He's like, we were at the hotel.

[00:25:29] He's like, we were at the hotel.

[00:25:31] He's like, we were getting ready to watch avatar, which you know is eight fucking hours.

[00:25:36] He's like, so your snacks came in handy.

[00:25:38] He's like, I ate your chips.

[00:25:39] They ate the butterscotch crimpits.

[00:25:41] He's like, and then I went into those peanut butter things.

[00:25:43] What are they?

[00:25:44] I'm like, candy cakes.

[00:25:45] He's like, candy cakes.

[00:25:47] He's like, let me tell you what I did.

[00:25:49] He's like, I opened up that pack.

[00:25:50] I had one.

[00:25:51] I said, these are delicious.

[00:25:52] I'm going to save these other two for later.

[00:25:54] Five minutes later, I said, I'm going to save this last one for later.

[00:25:59] He's like, in another five minutes later, I wish I didn't need all three.

[00:26:04] And then he's like, when are we doing this podcast?

[00:26:06] He's like, you need to reach out.

[00:26:07] Don't wait.

[00:26:08] It's like, let's do this.

[00:26:09] I was like, I will reach out this week.

[00:26:12] So Kavanaugh was incredibly nice.

[00:26:14] I got to meet Adam Savage, who I've been a fan of for a while from Mythbusters.

[00:26:19] I just went to his table and introduced myself.

[00:26:22] He gave me his email as well, which I'm waiting to hear back from.

[00:26:25] But all in all, Fan Expo with its challenges was a incredible weekend.

[00:26:32] That's awesome.

[00:26:33] I'm so glad.

[00:26:34] And the first of only many shows I have left this year is that I have

[00:26:40] like five more shows between now and the end of the year.

[00:26:43] So I've been looking up why is Dana Baron in a wheelchair?

[00:26:47] That information just isn't there.

[00:26:49] I told you.

[00:26:49] Like they've just kept it.

[00:26:52] All it says is hurt her back.

[00:26:54] That's it.

[00:26:55] It's not public knowledge.

[00:26:57] I got to tell you, in this day and age, that is quite the feat.

[00:27:02] But now you see why she was so upset about a public thing.

[00:27:07] There were no.

[00:27:08] I mean, if you went to her table, you see her wheelchair.

[00:27:12] She's sitting in a chair, but the wheelchair is behind her.

[00:27:14] So you know.

[00:27:17] But yeah, it's not a public thing.

[00:27:20] So I understood why she was as upset as she was.

[00:27:25] Oh, I just looked up tasty cake, peanut butter, candy cakes.

[00:27:28] Oh, they're so good.

[00:27:30] They look like Reese's peanut butter cups on steroids.

[00:27:34] Well, because they're cake.

[00:27:36] That's what I'm saying.

[00:27:37] Like, yeah.

[00:27:38] Yeah, I need one of those.

[00:27:40] They're so good.

[00:27:40] Philly, people outside of Philly just don't understand what tasty

[00:27:43] cakes are and how good they are.

[00:27:46] Hey, I got tasty cakes.

[00:27:48] I got tasty cakes, lemon mini donuts with me today.

[00:27:50] And you can get them in California too, because there are

[00:27:54] like a lot of like out of town or Philly's like who open like like

[00:27:58] cheese steak shops in California.

[00:28:00] They bring Philly stuff in.

[00:28:02] I mean, I need a Philly cheese steak from Philly like right now.

[00:28:07] Ever since ever since we went to Leo's.

[00:28:10] Oh, but I have a better place now.

[00:28:11] I know.

[00:28:12] I can't wait to go.

[00:28:13] Yeah. Yeah.

[00:28:15] When I see you next month, we're going.

[00:28:16] Yeah, 100 percent.

[00:28:18] All right, let's talk.

[00:28:19] You're going to love it.

[00:28:20] Let's talk about lasso.

[00:28:21] Half an hour in.

[00:28:22] Let's do this.

[00:28:23] Yeah.

[00:28:24] OK, first of all, I want to say one thing.

[00:28:26] OK. Oh, hang on.

[00:28:27] Before I say my one thing, I'm going to say one other thing.

[00:28:30] I would say one other thing.

[00:28:31] OK. Spoilers.

[00:28:34] Right? Yes.

[00:28:35] We do our spoilers thing.

[00:28:36] Spoiler full territory.

[00:28:38] A little rusty.

[00:28:39] If you want to.

[00:28:40] I was going to say it, but I didn't know yet your thing first.

[00:28:42] So yes, this is a spoiler full podcast, but we are no.

[00:28:46] We avoid spoilers as best we can, but we do a spoiler section at the end.

[00:28:51] So if you want to avoid that, we're watching for the first time.

[00:28:54] Check the show notes for the times and you know where to skip over

[00:28:57] till we go into feedback and favorite quotes.

[00:28:59] Good. Your other one thing.

[00:29:02] Your actual one thing.

[00:29:05] You keep talking.

[00:29:07] Sorry.

[00:29:10] OK. No, no.

[00:29:12] Your audio and your visual are totally off.

[00:29:15] So every time I almost start to talk, then you keep talking.

[00:29:19] So I'm just like, oh, he's still talking.

[00:29:22] Oh, wait, he's still talking.

[00:29:25] Sorry. All right.

[00:29:26] I love you. OK.

[00:29:28] I just want to say because Jill made a comment when I saw her a couple

[00:29:32] weeks ago that I've been really bashing on Ted Lasso lately for a show

[00:29:36] that I quote unquote love.

[00:29:38] So I just want to say I loved this episode.

[00:29:41] I feel like we're back.

[00:29:42] We're back in the lasso swing of things.

[00:29:44] A little bit in this episode.

[00:29:47] Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up because I actually think

[00:29:52] taking a break from it made me appreciate a couple things in this episode

[00:29:57] that I don't know if I would have had I watched them again.

[00:30:01] Interesting.

[00:30:02] I.

[00:30:05] My feelings on a particular character

[00:30:08] have kind of changed a little bit and they've swung in a better direction

[00:30:12] Java because no, no, not.

[00:30:16] No, it's Nate.

[00:30:17] Yeah, me too.

[00:30:18] Oh, yeah, I can't wait to hear what you say because I have feelings too.

[00:30:22] I feel it's it's Nate.

[00:30:24] My my feelings on Nate have changed a little bit because of this episode.

[00:30:31] So so yeah.

[00:30:31] So, you know, episode season three, episode four, big week.

[00:30:36] I want to start off by saying so first off, this episode

[00:30:40] jumps right into it.

[00:30:42] It's the next morning after the last episode four, five, one,

[00:30:45] which I actually before I watched this one because we had been away from lasso

[00:30:49] for so long, I actually rewatched four, five, one and then watched big week.

[00:30:54] I watched them back to back last night.

[00:30:55] And I'm glad I did because of the fact that it starts literally

[00:30:59] the next morning. Oh, interesting.

[00:31:02] But I loved.

[00:31:04] I loved seeing.

[00:31:07] Jamie full on Winnie the Poohing it.

[00:31:10] Like that's how he sleeps.

[00:31:12] He gets cold up top and hot on the bottom.

[00:31:15] Yep.

[00:31:17] But I but I also love that moment of of Roy knocking on the door

[00:31:22] and starting their training regiment because this is a this is the beginning

[00:31:28] of a great storyline.

[00:31:32] Beautiful friendship, a beautiful friendship between these two characters.

[00:31:37] It's going to be there is going to be conflict,

[00:31:41] but it's fun conflict.

[00:31:44] But a ton of mutual respect develops.

[00:31:48] The the burpees, the burpees that Jamie was doing at the park

[00:31:53] were the just the most wrong burpees I've ever seen.

[00:31:57] And I know those burpees of I can't possibly do one more physical movement.

[00:32:04] And you're making me do burpees like I've done the exact

[00:32:09] horrible looking burpee that Jamie was doing in the park.

[00:32:12] And then when he just throws up, I'm like, yep.

[00:32:17] Roy's like, cheers.

[00:32:19] Good morning.

[00:32:20] But I love the fact that he's just sitting there eating what looks like

[00:32:23] I think is a grilled cheese sandwich.

[00:32:25] I don't know what he's eating, but I need it.

[00:32:27] I know.

[00:32:28] But he was sitting there eating something the whole time

[00:32:30] that Jamie is just doing these burpees outside.

[00:32:33] And, you know, so one thing about this scene did confuse me.

[00:32:39] And it is the fact that why were Roy and Jamie doing them there?

[00:32:46] Like they don't live in that area.

[00:32:48] That's where Ted lives.

[00:32:50] So why were they there?

[00:32:53] You know, because I think that the the shot progression was what was needed

[00:32:57] because you have Sassy getting into the Uber and then you have Nate

[00:33:00] driving by in his car and then you had Roy.

[00:33:04] And so it's just the progression of, you know, the morning after.

[00:33:07] And they were and they were on a run.

[00:33:09] So they could have just stopped anywhere along the run,

[00:33:12] which just coincidentally happened to be there.

[00:33:14] I mean, my guess is that Ted lives close enough to the stadium

[00:33:17] that he walks to work every day.

[00:33:20] I think he does walk to work every day.

[00:33:21] So with that mentality, of course, they would stop at that park

[00:33:25] before heading into work.

[00:33:27] Oh, yeah, it is a park too.

[00:33:28] So it is just, I guess it could be.

[00:33:30] And that's where a lot of football is played by like the youth and stuff like that.

[00:33:35] Yeah.

[00:33:35] I mean, the Richmond bar is right there.

[00:33:37] That's true.

[00:33:39] Yeah.

[00:33:41] That's my spot.

[00:33:42] I want to say too, I love this opening.

[00:33:46] There's this a huge episode for Ted.

[00:33:51] And it starts with that conversation with Sassy in the beginning

[00:33:56] because, you know, I'm somebody and I've made no bones about this too.

[00:33:59] I'm somebody who has been shipping Sassy and Ted hard.

[00:34:01] I was the first upon along first watch.

[00:34:04] And and then upon this episode, like my opinion kind of changed

[00:34:09] because, you know, you know, Ted asks Sassy out on a proper date.

[00:34:13] And she's like, no, like that's not happening.

[00:34:15] Like you're a mess.

[00:34:17] I'm also a mess, but you're a mess.

[00:34:19] You're a bigger mess.

[00:34:21] I like what we have.

[00:34:22] And then I remember a slight disarray.

[00:34:24] She's a slight disarray, slight disarray of sunshine.

[00:34:29] But, you know, upon watching that scene, I'm like,

[00:34:32] you know, as hard as I was shipping the two of these, the two of them,

[00:34:36] she's absolutely right.

[00:34:38] Well, she's a brilliant child psychiatrist.

[00:34:41] So of course she's right.

[00:34:42] Yeah.

[00:34:43] It just would not have worked between the two of them.

[00:34:46] It what they have is what works best for Ted.

[00:34:50] Yeah.

[00:34:51] You know, so I'm glad.

[00:34:53] I think that, you know, that might be for spoiler talk.

[00:34:58] So we'll put a pin in it.

[00:34:59] OK.

[00:35:01] I do. I agree with you.

[00:35:03] I think that the the episode starts in typical Ted Lasso fashion.

[00:35:09] You know, obviously, something has happened in the previous episode.

[00:35:12] We're kind of getting the fallout from that.

[00:35:14] It's both good and bad.

[00:35:17] I do like that we see cracks in Nate

[00:35:21] that maybe I didn't see the first time around, like when he was doing his

[00:35:27] his big model arrangement or whatever and Ted falls on the floor and he laughs.

[00:35:33] But then you see that he is visibly ashamed for laughing.

[00:35:37] He's all alone and he's still like, oh, my gosh, what have I done?

[00:35:40] And he picks him up and he puts him back where he belongs.

[00:35:42] And he says, there you go.

[00:35:44] Like, there you go.

[00:35:45] That's where you're supposed to be.

[00:35:47] Yeah. Like, he still has

[00:35:50] this high respect and need for Ted's approval and validation,

[00:35:56] but he's trying to pretend that he doesn't.

[00:35:59] And all of that is shown in like one line of dialogue.

[00:36:05] So let's talk about Nate

[00:36:07] since we're already on it.

[00:36:08] Let's just talk about it.

[00:36:09] I was talking about Nate.

[00:36:11] I know. Sorry.

[00:36:11] I was doing an excellent job.

[00:36:13] I meant let's continue it.

[00:36:15] But I apologize.

[00:36:16] That's OK.

[00:36:17] I'm just giving you shit.

[00:36:18] It's fun.

[00:36:20] Nate in.

[00:36:22] So what I saw from Nate this episode,

[00:36:25] Nate is incredibly guilt written over everything,

[00:36:29] everything over everything.

[00:36:32] He would argue that this is a bigger episode for Nate than it is Ted.

[00:36:36] I agree. OK. I 100 percent agree.

[00:36:39] However, here is what I saw in the differences

[00:36:42] and what made me kind of change my view on Nate

[00:36:45] because we've been open and saying like,

[00:36:47] we hated Nate at this point.

[00:36:49] There are a lot of people that agree with that.

[00:36:51] Yeah. And I'm not saying.

[00:36:54] By what I'm about to say, I'm not say I'm not forgiving Nate.

[00:36:57] I'm not saying anything Nate did was right.

[00:37:02] He was very wrong in the actions that he took.

[00:37:06] However, there is a bigger villain.

[00:37:10] And that is Rupert. Oh my gosh.

[00:37:12] He's the villain.

[00:37:14] He is the villain because it is very clear,

[00:37:17] especially upon he said I watched this last night back to back with four or five

[00:37:20] one and then I watched it again this morning to actually officially take my notes.

[00:37:24] But I noticed it last night and I noticed it even more this morning.

[00:37:28] Rupert is the devil on Nate's shoulder.

[00:37:31] Oh, 100 percent. Yes.

[00:37:33] Without Rupert in his ear.

[00:37:37] Nate would have shaken Ted's hand.

[00:37:40] He would have like apologized to Ted in the elevator.

[00:37:44] Yeah, every time.

[00:37:46] Like when you think about that, like.

[00:37:49] Nate was feeling guilty about everything.

[00:37:51] He picked up the figure of Ted, put him back on the on the toy pitch.

[00:37:55] And like it wasn't until Rupert came into his office

[00:38:00] and said what he said and given him his Rupert pep talk,

[00:38:04] saying like you deserve to be here.

[00:38:06] That Nate kind of took another regressive step back and said, OK,

[00:38:11] I'm better than everybody at this point.

[00:38:15] But then you get the scene in the elevator,

[00:38:17] which is hysterical seeing Nate just facing, you know,

[00:38:21] facing the elevator.

[00:38:22] Nate was ready to

[00:38:26] he was ready to apologize to Ted for how things he was starting the apology.

[00:38:31] But then once the elevator door opens and he sees Rupert immediately goes away.

[00:38:37] Yeah, because it's Rupert's influence on him. Right.

[00:38:40] And then when the reporter asks him like,

[00:38:43] hey, you didn't shake Ted's hand.

[00:38:46] Like why didn't you do it?

[00:38:48] And it makes the excuse of I think I was just caught up in everything.

[00:38:52] I don't think I think that that's true.

[00:38:54] I think he does. I do too.

[00:38:55] I think he totally he looked visibly shaken

[00:39:00] that he didn't do it. Mm hmm. Yeah.

[00:39:04] And then he's getting ready to go and actually approach Ted

[00:39:08] after the game is over to shake his hand,

[00:39:11] but is interrupted by Rupert's assistant

[00:39:14] who hands him an invitation from Rupert

[00:39:17] to bones and honey, which if I'm not mistaken, is the bar.

[00:39:23] Is the one that he snuck into? Right.

[00:39:24] That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Yes.

[00:39:26] OK. It's from Beards Beards and Night Out.

[00:39:28] Right. Right. Right. Right.

[00:39:31] And that's where the Jeremy Baz and Jeremy Baz and Paul

[00:39:39] played pool all night. Yes. OK. Yeah.

[00:39:42] I'm glad that it came back around. Yeah.

[00:39:44] So every time Nate regressively took a step backwards

[00:39:50] into the Nate that we hate, Nate wasn't the one that did it.

[00:39:55] Rupert did it.

[00:39:57] Yeah. So I think that that I think that that's really visible to.

[00:40:00] I'm sorry. Do you want to keep going?

[00:40:02] I was just no.

[00:40:02] The only thing I was going to say was and that means that like

[00:40:06] it gives you a little bit of leeway to kind of forgive Nate

[00:40:10] only because you realize he's not as bad as we think he is.

[00:40:14] He's just very impressionable.

[00:40:17] So I agree with that.

[00:40:19] And I think that they make really good use of juxtaposition here.

[00:40:23] Right. So for anybody that doesn't know what juxtaposition is,

[00:40:27] it is the placing side by side of two items to create some sort of an effect.

[00:40:33] And in this in this case, what we have is we have Nate the night before the game

[00:40:37] and he's on his phone looking at articles and social media of the of the match up.

[00:40:42] And Rupert comes in to talk to him and

[00:40:46] Nate doesn't get the heart to heart that he probably needs in that moment

[00:40:52] where he's feeling a little weak.

[00:40:54] Rupert just kind of fills him with

[00:40:58] you know, honey and smoke and, you know, oh, you're the best.

[00:41:02] And Ted sucks or whatever.

[00:41:03] Right. OK, then the very next scene.

[00:41:06] Ted is on his phone checking social media just like Nate, except Rebecca comes in

[00:41:12] and that established friendship, that established equality and that respect

[00:41:16] for each other is so evident in their conversation to the point that,

[00:41:22] you know, Rebecca knows it.

[00:41:23] Ted's lying and she calls mountains as Oklahoma, which is the word, right?

[00:41:27] Which is the the word from Ted's therapy for those that may have forgotten.

[00:41:32] Where you was the no bullshit word.

[00:41:34] No, stop bullshitting.

[00:41:36] Let's talk real talk, right?

[00:41:37] She knew to say Oklahoma.

[00:41:39] That's a much different dynamic and it's why that team is as healthy as it is.

[00:41:44] And it's why and it's what Nate is missing from his life right now.

[00:41:49] And you can see that you can see in the fact that he's alone in his office.

[00:41:53] It's all black lacquer.

[00:41:55] He's got a black suit on.

[00:41:57] I mean, he's going through what Taylor Swift fans would call his darkness era,

[00:42:02] right? And then you you have Ted.

[00:42:08] Who is still being Ted and if that team, if Rebecca and Beard

[00:42:14] and Roy had just stuck with the lasso way, they probably would have won that game.

[00:42:20] It's it is very clear.

[00:42:21] And I have it in my notes to that Nate is in everybody's head.

[00:42:27] Except Ted.

[00:42:29] It's not until the end of the episode that I think Nate actually gets in a Ted's head.

[00:42:38] When I don't think he ever does,

[00:42:43] I think it's when I had a thought, wait, hang on.

[00:42:48] There was a reason why I thought so.

[00:42:51] Because only my while you're looking for that

[00:42:54] was it was it was when he didn't shake his hand.

[00:42:57] After the game, I was so bothered by it.

[00:43:01] I know I do see that he was bothered by it.

[00:43:04] But I still don't agree with the fact that Nate was in Ted's head.

[00:43:06] Because even following that, when Roy and Beard are looking for punishment

[00:43:11] for going the wrong direction and leading the team by hate,

[00:43:15] by showing the video of Nate tearing the believe sign,

[00:43:18] Ted's still the one that kind of takes the higher ground and says,

[00:43:20] guys, like you made a mistake.

[00:43:23] It's fine.

[00:43:24] Shake it off.

[00:43:25] There's still more football to play.

[00:43:27] I still don't think that he's in his head at that point.

[00:43:30] I think he was upset by it.

[00:43:33] I don't think he allowed it to bother him.

[00:43:37] Hmm.

[00:43:38] That's just the way I saw it.

[00:43:40] I think I would have to watch it again because you saw twice and I only saw one.

[00:43:44] So you probably saw something that I didn't, which is fine.

[00:43:48] But.

[00:43:49] But.

[00:43:51] I do like the fact that at the end of the episode,

[00:43:54] Ted does not turn to bourbon like he always does.

[00:43:59] Yeah, I get that point now too.

[00:44:01] He put it down and he faced what was really bothering him.

[00:44:05] And it wasn't Nate.

[00:44:06] It wasn't the team.

[00:44:07] It wasn't what was going on at work.

[00:44:10] It was Michelle.

[00:44:11] And he needed to get it out.

[00:44:13] And I think that Beard's words from Go Dependency Anonymous.

[00:44:19] Was really helpful.

[00:44:21] Yeah, which with her.

[00:44:24] Oh, that's right.

[00:44:24] That's right.

[00:44:26] Was really helpful for Ted because I think that he knew that

[00:44:29] that's really what was probably poisoning him and distracting him

[00:44:34] and getting that out.

[00:44:36] I think is the first step in him actually starting to deal

[00:44:39] with everything that follows after that.

[00:44:41] The root of all of it is his divorce.

[00:44:44] But I think that eventually opening up that door to deal

[00:44:48] with his divorce and to confront Michelle on her transgressions

[00:44:52] is a way for them to actually for him, not them,

[00:44:57] but for Ted to actually confront.

[00:45:01] The major elephant in the room as far as his professional life goes

[00:45:05] in that is how do I confront and deal with Nate head on?

[00:45:10] Because there are a lot of feelings that Ted is choosing

[00:45:13] not to acknowledge just like he did with Michelle.

[00:45:17] He acted like everything was fine for a really long time.

[00:45:19] And I think that he's doing that with Nate right now.

[00:45:21] So I think that it is bothering him more than he is

[00:45:25] letting on to anybody else because he's Ted, he's a coach.

[00:45:28] He builds people up.

[00:45:29] He doesn't tear them down.

[00:45:31] And that game went against everything that he stands for.

[00:45:35] Everything that he stands for.

[00:45:38] So maybe so maybe it is a very a lot like his

[00:45:41] relationship with Michelle in that he has said time and time again

[00:45:45] to talking to the therapist and talking to other people

[00:45:50] that he has felt like a failure.

[00:45:53] You know, he's never given up on anything

[00:45:55] and he feels like his marriage is a failure.

[00:45:57] So maybe you're right, like looking at everything with Nate,

[00:46:00] seeing how Nate's coaching style was

[00:46:04] and he took Nate under his wing.

[00:46:06] Maybe he feels like a little bit of a failure when it comes to Nate.

[00:46:10] Oh, yes, I would think so.

[00:46:13] He failed Nate.

[00:46:14] Yeah, you know, he failed Nate.

[00:46:17] He did fail Nate, though.

[00:46:18] He did. And we saw that last season and we pointed out the

[00:46:22] the places where he did fail Nate.

[00:46:25] But Nate also didn't stand up for himself

[00:46:28] and he didn't hold Ted accountable.

[00:46:30] He held it in.

[00:46:31] He got angry and this is the fallout of that.

[00:46:34] And maybe that's the message.

[00:46:35] Maybe that's the message that that Ted Lasso is trying

[00:46:39] to tell us as viewers is you cannot hold on to anger.

[00:46:43] You cannot let feelings

[00:46:49] create so much toxicity inside of you

[00:46:52] that it permeates every facet of your life.

[00:46:55] And we're seeing that.

[00:46:56] We're seeing how that's falling out in Nate's life right now.

[00:46:59] And we've seen the way that Ted is trying to rebuild his life

[00:47:03] since his divorce.

[00:47:05] And we see that with, you know, Roy doing the same thing

[00:47:08] and Rebecca doing the same thing.

[00:47:10] And what do we do with the toxicity and the damage

[00:47:13] in the trauma that comes from what happens to us on a day to day basis

[00:47:16] in our life and relationships?

[00:47:17] And how do we continue on in a positive manner

[00:47:21] and benefit from trauma?

[00:47:23] Yeah, keeping things bottled up never works out for anybody

[00:47:27] because eventually that bottle fills it overflows

[00:47:30] and it just becomes a problem.

[00:47:33] This is going to be a very weird analogy,

[00:47:34] but I've made them before and I will never stop making them.

[00:47:38] It's very similar to the new Ghostbusters movie.

[00:47:40] If you've seen it, I have and I loved it in that the containment unit is full.

[00:47:46] So rather than emptying the containment unit,

[00:47:48] you just keep stuffing ghosts in there until eventually they all get out

[00:47:52] and they become an army against you.

[00:47:55] And that's kind of similar to your emotions.

[00:47:57] And, you know, that was a weird analogy.

[00:48:00] But I know it wasn't.

[00:48:01] It was perfect.

[00:48:02] It was a perfect analogy.

[00:48:04] But I did notice, first off,

[00:48:06] I want to say that I'm a work in Progmes is my new slogan.

[00:48:11] Because that is me to a T.

[00:48:15] You know, when Rebecca after she says Oklahoma and, you know, says, like,

[00:48:18] are you OK? He says, I'm a work in Progmes.

[00:48:21] I loved that.

[00:48:22] I kind of want to tattoo it somewhere.

[00:48:24] I was like the minute I heard that, I'm like,

[00:48:27] that's fucking me to a T right now.

[00:48:29] In fact, if you if you had the tattoo be I'm a work in Progmes on the believe sign.

[00:48:37] Oh, that would be a really good tattoo.

[00:48:40] I know, I know, because I don't think that will ever change in my life.

[00:48:43] I think I will forever be a work in Progmes like we all are.

[00:48:46] That's your life right now.

[00:48:48] If you're live right now,

[00:48:49] you're working Progmes because the world is is a disaster.

[00:48:52] Dumpster fire. That's that's the point.

[00:48:55] You will always have some kind of mess in your life.

[00:48:57] But if you're working through it, you're always a work in Progmes.

[00:49:01] And I'm like, yeah, I fucking love that.

[00:49:04] Like that's my new slogan right now.

[00:49:06] I love it too.

[00:49:07] But I did also that was a huge moment for me watching that, seeing him

[00:49:12] turn off the TV, pick up the glass, look at it and then put it down.

[00:49:18] Because then he called Michelle.

[00:49:20] Well, because it made me realize, too, that like we had said, like,

[00:49:23] oh, I wonder if they were kind of working towards giving Ted a drinking

[00:49:27] problem, but they just never did.

[00:49:29] And that made me realize, oh, they absolutely were giving Ted a drinking problem.

[00:49:33] They just weren't making it like blatant.

[00:49:36] It was very so.

[00:49:37] It wasn't about his drinking problem.

[00:49:39] Yes. It was about coping mechanisms.

[00:49:42] Yeah. And then to you're right.

[00:49:44] And then to see him dial up Michelle and address the issue with Michelle

[00:49:50] after looking at his phone and seeing all the text messages

[00:49:54] from Dr. Jacob from 29 from September of 2019, like every week,

[00:49:59] just reminding him of their sessions together and then confronting Michelle about it.

[00:50:05] And like, it's so weird because as a viewer, you hear him confront Michelle

[00:50:11] and then when it's over, he closes the lid and he lets out this big sigh of relief

[00:50:17] because you know that's been weighing on him this entire time.

[00:50:21] And as an audience member, we know how much this has been weighing on him.

[00:50:25] We kind of sigh a similar relief.

[00:50:28] Yeah, we've been waiting for it as well.

[00:50:30] Absolutely. Mm hmm.

[00:50:32] And then to see Michelle like kind of smile is in like.

[00:50:37] I think like I'll I'll save it.

[00:50:40] I'm putting a pin in it for spoilers.

[00:50:42] It's one of my things maybe she wanted a reaction from him that I think

[00:50:46] she's been I think she's been wanting a reaction from him all along.

[00:50:50] He hasn't gotten angry about anything.

[00:50:52] And I would say that that would be very frustrating for somebody

[00:50:57] that needs their partner to be.

[00:51:03] Present, I think that's it.

[00:51:05] I think I don't think her dating Dr.

[00:51:08] Jacob was the intent of getting a reaction out of Ted.

[00:51:11] I think there was we've talked about how that relationship turned out

[00:51:16] or why that relationship turned out.

[00:51:18] But I don't think it was ever the intent of Michelle to date

[00:51:21] Dr. Jacob just to get a reaction out of Ted.

[00:51:24] But the reason why they were going to therapy in the first place

[00:51:28] was because he was never angry.

[00:51:30] He never reacted to things he always tried to stay positive.

[00:51:34] She's now seeing the one thing she's always wanted to see from Ted

[00:51:38] before they even started going to therapy.

[00:51:41] And that is him reacting.

[00:51:42] Mm hmm.

[00:51:43] Or caring caring and react.

[00:51:46] Being concerned about something.

[00:51:49] So she is seeing now something in Ted that she has been wanting to see for a while.

[00:51:54] Because therapy works.

[00:51:56] And I will dive more into this in in spoilers.

[00:52:01] OK, because there's there's more I have to say about this,

[00:52:04] but it kind of dives into stuff.

[00:52:10] Where do you want to go?

[00:52:11] Well, sit, let's stay with Ted and the team for a second

[00:52:15] because I see Ted in this episode

[00:52:19] trying so hard to do the right thing the entire episode,

[00:52:23] just like we've seen him trying to do the right thing for the whole series at this point.

[00:52:28] Right. The minute he takes his eye off the ball at half time

[00:52:32] and he goes and talks to a psychotic Rebecca,

[00:52:39] psychotic, he walks in and sees that his coaches have gone rogue

[00:52:44] and have done the one thing that he said,

[00:52:48] maybe we don't do this, guys.

[00:52:50] And it blows up disasterously, epically in their faces.

[00:52:57] So on first watch, did you think that it was going to be

[00:53:02] a good thing or a bad thing that they watched this video on first watch?

[00:53:06] On first watch, I honestly thought it would be a good thing.

[00:53:08] I was like, oh, these guys are going into this heated.

[00:53:11] They're going to like they're just going to destroy them now.

[00:53:14] Like they're going to come back and just keep scoring goals.

[00:53:17] And then the moment it started playing out the way it did with red cards

[00:53:20] and penalties, I was like, no, this is more appropriate because the team

[00:53:24] is not built on anger because Ted is not an angry person.

[00:53:28] The team has anger.

[00:53:30] But this is what I'm talking about, right?

[00:53:31] This is the whole theme of this episode.

[00:53:35] This they everybody, literally everybody,

[00:53:38] there is not one character that you can point to that it does not apply to.

[00:53:43] Everyone has got the same bottled up emotions because lasso,

[00:53:49] the lasso way is remaining above it, right?

[00:53:53] When they go low, we go high and he has been going high for

[00:53:58] his entire tenure at Richmond, which makes his players also resort to going

[00:54:03] high and not taking the low ground.

[00:54:06] So when the one time when they're allowed to go on that low ground,

[00:54:10] all of that anger, all of it just erupts and you really see how angry

[00:54:17] and how affected this entire team is over the loss of Nate Shelley.

[00:54:24] Well, again, like it goes back to what I said earlier too about how Nate is in

[00:54:27] everybody's head, but Ted, and it is most apparent with Roy and Beard.

[00:54:33] Like when they are going with Higgins in the beginning of the episode,

[00:54:36] they're going over how they're going to play.

[00:54:38] They're going to set up all their plays for the game.

[00:54:41] Like they're like, oh, we can go with the, you know, Nate's false nine,

[00:54:45] but no, Nate would see that coming.

[00:54:46] So we're going to go with the 4-4-2 and then no, we're going to do this,

[00:54:52] but Nate will think we're going to do that.

[00:54:53] And it's the last thing Nate would expect.

[00:54:54] Like they go through like four or five different plays before they finally come

[00:54:58] back to Nate's false nine.

[00:55:00] And then Leslie ruins it by saying,

[00:55:03] Like do you think Zava would do it?

[00:55:04] And Roy just punches it.

[00:55:10] But that's another thing is like when we look at Zava,

[00:55:12] okay, was Zava going to build on that?

[00:55:14] So we get kind of a little Easter egg in this episode with the thought of Zava

[00:55:20] and that's Beard's book.

[00:55:22] Which is, which is the Beckham experiment.

[00:55:25] The Beckham experiment I wrote that down too.

[00:55:27] Yeah.

[00:55:27] So I looked up the Beckham experiment and cause Lord knows I don't read books on soccer.

[00:55:35] And the Beckham experiment, let me go to that page because I was looking up tasty cakes a minute ago.

[00:55:43] Okay. So summary off of Wikipedia.

[00:55:45] Do you mind if I read this?

[00:55:46] No, go for it.

[00:55:47] Okay. In January 2007, 31 year old Beckham, one of the world's most famous soccer players

[00:55:53] at the time playing with Real Madrid, shocked the world by signing a five year contract with

[00:55:57] MLS team LA Galaxy effective from the end of the 2006-07 La Liga season,

[00:56:04] which was in progress when the announcement was made.

[00:56:06] So that already sounds exactly like what's happening with Zava, right?

[00:56:11] So blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

[00:56:13] Okay. So we go down to as a result, he was able to give a behind the scenes account

[00:56:17] of Beckham's impact on LA Galaxy.

[00:56:19] Okay. Initially, Beckham had a great financial impact on LA Galaxy,

[00:56:24] drawing sold out crowds, additional owners, additional sponsors and an increase in sold

[00:56:28] merchandise. Again, we saw this last in the previous episode.

[00:56:33] All this stuff being sold out and everything.

[00:56:36] Right.

[00:56:37] Behind the scenes, Beckham's management was seeking control over the team and league.

[00:56:41] Beckham's designated player status as well as his overall stature and

[00:56:45] celebrity enabled him to seek preferential treatment, including the captaincy,

[00:56:48] his own parking spot right next to the dressing room and his own hotel room on road

[00:56:53] trips. This preferential treatment along with Beckham's salary,

[00:56:56] much higher than that of his teammates greatly affected the team.

[00:56:59] Ripping the captaincy out of Donovan's hands and heavy consequences.

[00:57:05] Both years when Beckham was captain, the team failed to make it to the MLS playoffs.

[00:57:09] The book also delves into larger issues such as MLS's failing structure.

[00:57:14] So there was also something about where is it?

[00:57:19] Oh, I saw it. I don't remember where, but he also had the same locker room setup as Zava does.

[00:57:26] Oh, okay.

[00:57:27] So obviously the show by Beard holding the Beckham experiment is Beard understanding

[00:57:38] the toxicity, right? We're coming back to that toxicity again.

[00:57:41] The toxicity of Zava being on this team,

[00:57:45] an established team that is pretty much amazing without Zava, right? And how it poisoned the LA

[00:57:52] Galaxy. And it did. I mean, I lived in LA during the time. I lived in California at the time.

[00:57:56] I remember how much of a big deal this was to California when Beckham came.

[00:58:03] Like nobody cared about soccer. Literally nobody cared about soccer.

[00:58:07] And then Beckham like descended into California and everything was madness.

[00:58:12] Yeah.

[00:58:14] So I like that they're saying Zava is supposed to be a cancer to this team,

[00:58:21] but without saying it, right? You have to actually look for the information and Beard's

[00:58:26] books are always the way to look at the underlying message of any episode.

[00:58:31] Yeah, it's funny because similar to lost, any time there was a literary reference,

[00:58:37] we always dove into it because it always had something to do with what was happening in the

[00:58:41] episode or what was happening in the story at that time. And it's so funny that as far apart as these

[00:58:47] two shows are, that is one thing that is similar between lost and lasso is anytime Beard has a book

[00:58:53] or he's reading a book, always look into that book because it's going to show you

[00:58:59] there's some kind of meaning to the book that he is reading at that time.

[00:59:04] So the moment I saw the Beckham experiment, I was like, oh, gotta look it up. Gotta see what

[00:59:08] that's all about. And one of the things I read too is like on Wikipedia without going into the

[00:59:15] Wikipedia article, it also says it says how the world's most famous athlete tried to conquer America.

[00:59:21] Right. That was the subtitle of the book, right?

[00:59:23] Which also gives me a little bit of an insight for Ted too because that's kind of reversal for

[00:59:28] Ted. He's not the most famous, he's not the world's most famous athlete, but he is somebody who is

[00:59:34] coming into a country that is not his own country as a coach. But he's been doing that for a while.

[00:59:41] It's definitely more about Zava than anybody else.

[00:59:45] Yeah, I mean, the irony of that subtitle is the fact that Ted did something good for

[00:59:51] football, whereas Zava and Beckham obviously did the reverse of that.

[01:00:00] So change and abrupt changes that can be both good and bad, but we have to take the good with the bad.

[01:00:08] Yeah. I mean, it's one of those things too that kind of like,

[01:00:13] we talked about, you mentioned how Zava is a cancer too. He is a poison to this team

[01:00:18] and we just don't kind of see it. It's not very slap your slap in the face.

[01:00:22] But I mean, even throughout like, I think it's in this episode, hopefully I'm not confusing

[01:00:28] my two episodes watching the back. Oh no, it was during the game, during the West Ham Richmond

[01:00:33] game. Like Jamie makes the attempt at kicking a goal and misses and Zava is the one that's

[01:00:39] like to Zava. Like it's even in Zava's head at this point, he's the man. Like

[01:00:47] you should have passed to me and I would have gone and go for the goal. It's not about the team at

[01:00:51] that point. His whole thing for Zava. Yeah. Yeah. Like you almost have to imagine that had Jamie

[01:01:00] actually scored the goal, Zava still would have been mad. Yeah. Oh, it was like season one Jamie

[01:01:05] though, right? Season one Jamie was also mad if he wasn't the one that was scoring the goals.

[01:01:10] Well, it's one of my, it's one of my favorite moments from four or five one going back to

[01:01:13] that episode too is when you know, beard when Jamie comes into the office and says,

[01:01:18] I've seen people like Zava before and Beards like, well, isn't this ironic? And he's like,

[01:01:23] I wasn't being ironic. I was being hypocritical. And he and Beards kind of like mind blown that

[01:01:29] Jamie actually knew that. Well, because beard likes to be the smartest man in the room.

[01:01:34] And in that moment, he wasn't. Well, I think people don't give Jamie enough credit

[01:01:39] with his smarts. I think he's a lot smarter than people give him credit for.

[01:01:44] Well, and I think the fact, I think it kind of goes a little unseen how much

[01:01:50] Jamie has grown. And I think that kind of has been this entire season until this episode,

[01:01:56] because it like the episode starts with Roy knocking on the door and waking Jamie up at

[01:02:02] 4 a.m. But then after that man, after that West Ham Richmond game, Roy is at his door the same night

[01:02:11] and says, you know, let's get one in before dinner. Jamie opens the door ready to go.

[01:02:16] He was like, he was going to go without Roy anyways. Yeah. Probably. Yeah.

[01:02:20] And then not only that, but we also get that moment with Keely seeing Jamie and realizing

[01:02:26] like all these things about Jamie that she kind of never really realized until now.

[01:02:33] People are now starting to see Roy and Keely in particular how much Jamie has grown.

[01:02:42] Because even when Jamie rushes out the door with Roy, Roy kind of looks as in like,

[01:02:48] all right, let's fucking go then. Like he's even a little shocked that Jamie was ready to go.

[01:02:55] So Roy and Keely are two people who are starting to pick up on the fact that Jamie is growing.

[01:03:03] Well, and they're the two that are probably closest to him,

[01:03:06] you know? But because they're also closest to him, they also

[01:03:13] see him as old Jamie more than they would be accepting of new Jamie. So I don't know.

[01:03:22] Well, I think it's important to note that these are the two people that are seeing his growth.

[01:03:27] But being the two people that are so close to him, sometimes the people that are close to you

[01:03:31] don't see the changes right away. It's not until you kind of take that step back and then you

[01:03:36] look from afar because like let's say somebody is trying to lose weight. Well, if you see

[01:03:40] that person every day, you're not going to notice the weight loss because you're seeing

[01:03:44] it progress. It's not until like you're away from somebody for like two or three months

[01:03:49] and then suddenly you're seeing them 10, 20 pounds lighter that you notice the difference.

[01:03:54] So being that close to them, it would be harder for Roy and Keely to see these changes.

[01:03:59] But the fact that they are the ones seeing them I think says a lot.

[01:04:05] If that made any sense. Yeah, it does. It does. It does. There's just so much that's happening

[01:04:14] with Jamie and with Keely and with Roy and then Shandy's in the mix somehow.

[01:04:21] For some reason. I fucking hate Shandy. And I have it in here. It's one of my final notes on

[01:04:28] here. Shandy's shitty move and that's changing the byline of banter. And then being outraged at her

[01:04:37] boss for being being dressed down a little bit for it. Well, so I have a little bit of a theory

[01:04:47] and it's not really a theater theory. It's just kind of a thought. Shandy says at one point when

[01:04:52] she's in there filming all of the Richmond players for that banter promo and Keely comes in and Shandy

[01:05:00] says, it's nice being the boss. Shandy feels like she runs this company. Yeah, she does. She

[01:05:08] feels like she's in charge. It's very similar to Nate last season in Nate feeling like he's

[01:05:16] smarter than everybody else. Shandy thinks she's smarter than Keely, which is why she made that

[01:05:25] move of changing the byline without Keely's permission. Right? She thinks she's better

[01:05:31] than Keely. She's smart. She knows more than Keely what people want. Well, Keely

[01:05:38] also kind of had a very hands off approach to Shandy, which maybe she shouldn't have done.

[01:05:50] Well, I think a lot of that stems from the relationship with her and Rebecca

[01:05:54] because Rebecca supported her vocally but let Keely do her own thing. But they talk every day.

[01:06:02] Yeah, that doesn't work for Shandy. Well, Shandy and Keely talked every day too.

[01:06:06] Did they or did Shandy just come in and say how awesome she was and leave?

[01:06:11] Maybe it is that. You know what I mean? It's just two very different dynamics.

[01:06:15] Yeah, maybe it is that. And the gum smacking, I want her to choke on the gum.

[01:06:22] But Shandy is such a shitty character and she's done intentionally that way. There's

[01:06:29] nothing very similar to Rupert. There's just no redeeming qualities about this character at all.

[01:06:37] And there never will be. Sorry, that's a bit of a spoiler. But like.

[01:06:41] Yeah, no, she doesn't get better. She doesn't turn around. She's...

[01:06:46] She actually gets worse. She gets even worse than this.

[01:06:50] But I think that that's implied that she's not going to get any better because for right now,

[01:06:55] she would have gotten better by now. Yeah, it's totally intentional.

[01:07:01] Yeah. Yeah, it's completely intentional for her to be a non-redeeming character.

[01:07:06] I mean, even Rupert one or two times kind of has these moments where you see a lighter side of

[01:07:14] Rupert. Like the upcoming dinner or lunch or whatever it is. Yeah, that's still a couple

[01:07:20] episodes off. But that upcoming episode I think is the only time that we see Rupert

[01:07:26] in a different light. In a different light, yes, absolutely.

[01:07:29] We kind of see a lighter side of Rupert. They don't give Shandy that same respect.

[01:07:33] No, never. I mean, it's... I don't want to... Yeah, it's spoilers. It's spoiler-y,

[01:07:40] so I don't want to say it. Yeah, Shandy is just a horrible character. But it does lead

[01:07:47] us into another character who we meet for the first time this episode. And that's Jack, which is

[01:07:55] Shandy and Keely's boss. And Barbara's boss. And Barbara's boss. Not Babs. Not Babs.

[01:08:02] Not Babs. Barbara's another character who you kind of hate in this moment, but you will grow to

[01:08:10] at the very least appreciate... You know, poor Barbara. Poor Barbara and her

[01:08:16] Snow Globe collection. I will say Barbara is not a bad character. She is just very misunderstood

[01:08:24] at this point. Yes, she's just a different personality than everybody else. Yeah, she's

[01:08:30] not as much as we'd like to look at her and see and think she's a bad character like,

[01:08:36] oh, I don't like her. She's horrible. You will soon come to at the very least appreciate Barbara

[01:08:42] and understand her better. Yeah, I think so. Yeah. Yeah, I think so. There's... To me,

[01:08:50] the rest of this season is wonderful. So we've said how the beginning of this season is very

[01:09:00] so much is happening that we just kind of don't like. It's a sludge. And we said that

[01:09:07] Sunflowers is the episode where it really starts to come up again. After watching this episode,

[01:09:14] it's this episode. It's this episode. You know why too? We get less Zava, which is nice.

[01:09:19] Starting next week. No, but we get less Zava this episode. We only get four lines from him,

[01:09:27] maybe. And to me, that was just enough. It's a little more than four lines, but yeah, we do...

[01:09:34] It's not a lot. And the fact that I mean, you just really get a sense of his douche

[01:09:40] baggery too with him saying, I let all of my kids name themselves at seven years old. Fuck you.

[01:09:49] That's why my oldest son is Sniggly Wiggly or whatever his name is.

[01:09:53] Snoochie Bucci's What Is It? Oh my god. I don't know. But he says something... I'm trying to

[01:10:00] find it now. He says something during the press conference and it was kind of

[01:10:08] tough for me to kind of understand whether... Was he being positive or was he not?

[01:10:16] The press conference. Which press conference? At the end of the game.

[01:10:20] He says... Zava is... It's after Nate says something, says about shaking the hands and everything.

[01:10:34] And then they interview Zava and he says something. I'm looking through the transcript now. I'm trying

[01:10:39] to find it. He says something about Van Damme being pulled. Oh, sending off Van Damme was a mistake.

[01:10:51] He played with passion. Passion is a word we use when we talk about love. It is also a word

[01:10:58] we use to describe a crime. Sometimes it is also a fruit. And I'm trying to figure out...

[01:11:06] Like, are you being positive or are you being negative? No. He has no... That's the shtick.

[01:11:16] He thinks he's this deep, profound thinker and he's just saying words,

[01:11:23] hoping that some of them sticks on the wall. So I'm right in being confused by this.

[01:11:28] Yes. I think that that's exactly what you... Zava is not... There's no depth to him.

[01:11:34] There's no substance to him. He's a good footballer who also likes avocados.

[01:11:43] Yeah. We'll get into that a little bit later too.

[01:11:50] Trying to think. I'm looking at my notes now. Nate is in Roy and Beards Head, so we have that.

[01:11:55] While I'm looking through, do you have anything else you kind of want to dive into?

[01:11:59] Okay, go for it. So let's go to... I just want to touch on Trent Crimm just because he's my favorite

[01:12:06] character in the show. He is. I love Trent Crimm. Every time I see him, I'm comforted. So I mean,

[01:12:12] I love Jamie. I love Roy. I love Ted. Trent Crimm is my favorite character. He just is.

[01:12:18] I can't deny it anymore. Trent Crimm or bust. Okay. I love... It needs to be a bumper sticker.

[01:12:25] I love how he observes everything. I love the connections that he makes. I love

[01:12:34] that he has got... He is accepted as an equal in the Diamond Dogs, in the locker room,

[01:12:41] in the coach's room. It doesn't matter. He has been fully embraced by Richmond,

[01:12:47] fully embraced. I truly believe he could walk into Rebecca's office, sit on the couch and say,

[01:12:53] do you mind if I spend the day here? And she would say, sure. Yeah.

[01:12:58] That's significant. I agree with that. That is significant. The fact that he is...

[01:13:05] He was the one that came up with looking at the security footage.

[01:13:08] You can... I guess you could take the boy out of journalism, but you can't take the

[01:13:11] journalism out of the boy. Well, you fucking ruined it with that. But you fucking ruined it.

[01:13:17] And that proves that he's even crossed into Roy.

[01:13:21] You know, Roy wouldn't have said that to him if he didn't have respect for Trent.

[01:13:26] But you talk about him being as observant as he is and what he now knows about Colin.

[01:13:36] He caught it. Yep. He caught it. What did he say? He's mine? You can't have him.

[01:13:41] He's mine. Oh, you can't have him. He's mine. Jokingly.

[01:13:45] Trent knew it wasn't a joke. Oh, yeah. You could see Trent

[01:13:49] Crimm kind of looking over at Colin being like, hmm, like he's incredibly intelligent,

[01:13:55] he's incredibly observant. And now he is noticing this false front that Colin is putting up.

[01:14:02] He looked at Colin and he was just like, that doesn't track because he's so observant.

[01:14:08] Yeah, he's he's just I'm with you on Trent being and we and the funny thing is too,

[01:14:16] we haven't even seen the best of Trent yet this season. I know, sunflowers.

[01:14:21] Yeah, it's going back into how great that episode is like we haven't seen.

[01:14:25] Trent Crimm. We have not seen the best of Trent yet this season. There's still more,

[01:14:30] so much more of Trent to come. But I wonder what the point of looking at the footage for

[01:14:40] the sign was, was it just that Trent needed the answer? Or was it or was it like, okay,

[01:14:48] so he finds the answer. That's all well and good. It's the investigator in him.

[01:14:52] Like he saw a mystery and wanted to solve it. So did he solve it before bringing it to

[01:14:58] Beard and Roy? Or did he ask Beard and Roy to look at the footage?

[01:15:02] I think they probably he probably asked, he probably went to Beard and Roy and said,

[01:15:06] hey, we can check the footage. Because at this point, remember, I don't think anybody knew

[01:15:12] that that sign was down except for Ted. Ted puts it back up, didn't he?

[01:15:17] Ted puts it back up. I don't think anybody didn't he date it back together.

[01:15:23] I don't know. I think at this point, Ted was the one that put the sign up.

[01:15:32] And Ted was the only one that knew that sign was ripped. Beard didn't know, Roy didn't know,

[01:15:37] Trent didn't nobody knew that sign was ripped except Ted.

[01:15:42] When McAdoo takes his hand and shops Jamie's are, that was the best.

[01:15:49] Well, what would you have done if it worked? I'm sorry, Rob, I didn't think this one through.

[01:15:58] I love that moment so much. I love McAdoo. McAdoo is probably with the exception of Jamie.

[01:16:05] He's probably one of my favorite players on the team.

[01:16:08] I love that he's wearing just this pink sweatsuit too. Like he's the first one that you see

[01:16:13] in that locker room with his pink sweatsuit.

[01:16:15] He's just, I see where he chops Jamie. I just wanted to see if I had the power to chop things.

[01:16:23] What would you have done if it worked? I'm sorry, Rob, I didn't think this one through.

[01:16:27] I think that they could have shown the footage of Nate ripping the sign

[01:16:33] and with Ted talking them through their anger in half time. I think that they could have played

[01:16:39] a stronger match and not a dirty, angry match. I think that they could have taken the good with the

[01:16:45] bad with Ted leading the way on that one. They're needed to be words spoken with the video instead

[01:16:54] of just showing them the video. That was a chippy match. Wow. That's leading the, that's like

[01:17:02] just letting the wolves go. That's just opening the pen and not giving the wolves any direction.

[01:17:08] It's also completely disregarding and disrespecting your head coach's

[01:17:14] philosophy. Yeah. You know, even as much as we don't like her as a character, Jack even puts it

[01:17:21] like great, like when you get more red cards than you score goals, like yeah, that's not a good thing.

[01:17:29] Yeah, you know, it makes headlines though. True.

[01:17:32] Um, let me see. Yeah, I have the believe sign in half and Macadoo chops Jamie in my notes.

[01:17:42] I only have one more thing in my notes. And that is Rebecca seeing Rupert with his assistant.

[01:17:54] And in my opinion, this scene shows so much growth in Rebecca. Rebecca has a bullet now.

[01:18:08] She could load the gun and use this, but she doesn't. She tells Rupert. I know.

[01:18:15] She could have very easily kept that as a weapon to use against Rupert,

[01:18:21] but instead said, I have leverage. Here it is. They deserve better. Knock off your shit.

[01:18:29] Now she could still use it as leverage if she wanted to. She understands that he's a father now.

[01:18:34] Yeah. There's a big difference. You're a dad now. Like she could still use it as leverage

[01:18:41] if need be. But the fact that she told Rupert that she knows means that was never her intent.

[01:18:51] She wants, she very honestly wants Rupert to be better.

[01:18:57] She wants to be a mother and she sees that there is a child at stake. And that's something that

[01:19:08] Rupert had a kid to spite Rebecca, not because he loved Bex, not because he wanted a kid.

[01:19:17] He did it to hurt Rebecca. He brought a human being into the world

[01:19:24] just to spite his ex-wife. That's the most disgusting part about him.

[01:19:29] Yeah. Yeah. It's just, it's, he is a wretched person and I don't get me wrong. I love the actor.

[01:19:40] Love the actor. And I love the fact that he enjoyed playing this role,

[01:19:45] but the character is so well written that he is rightfully hated.

[01:19:49] Yeah, 100%. I do have one more thing at the top of my notes and I can't believe I didn't talk about it.

[01:19:58] Is this the first time we see Jamie's house?

[01:20:03] No, because remember I made mention very early on in season one how he had like a gun lamp.

[01:20:09] Oh yeah.

[01:20:11] When him and Keely were still dating, we have seen it. We haven't seen it since season one,

[01:20:15] but we have seen Jamie's house before.

[01:20:18] Okay. Have we seen Roy's house?

[01:20:21] I don't think we have seen Roy's house yet.

[01:20:23] I don't think we do see Roy's house.

[01:20:25] I don't think we ever, no, I don't think we ever do.

[01:20:27] What do you think it looks like? What do you think Roy's house looks like?

[01:20:30] A storage crate.

[01:20:32] A storage container.

[01:20:33] Lives in a garbage can with Oscar.

[01:20:37] Well, we know Brickle and Steve wouldn't mind that at all.

[01:20:40] No, I think he, I don't know. I don't know what his house looks like.

[01:20:47] Well, we know the neighborhood that he lives in because they go on that walk.

[01:20:51] Yeah.

[01:20:51] That love actually walk.

[01:20:53] Are you going to go into how much you hate rom-coms again?

[01:20:56] No. Okay.

[01:20:57] That's been well established.

[01:21:04] Everybody knows already. There's no point in me mentioning it again.

[01:21:07] No point.

[01:21:09] Yeah. I mean, that's everything I have is kind of, we've kind of addressed.

[01:21:14] So the only stuff I have left is for spoilers.

[01:21:18] Yep. Me too. I only have one spoiler.

[01:21:20] Okay. So then with that being said, we're going to dive into spoiler territory.

[01:21:26] So if you want to avoid it, just check the show notes so you know when to come back

[01:21:30] into the conversation.

[01:21:32] I want to start with the video and showing the team the video.

[01:21:37] And wasn't the whole video.

[01:21:39] It wasn't the whole video. We're going to see the second half of that video,

[01:21:44] not until the penultimate episode.

[01:21:46] Yep. It kind of dives into one of our favorite beard moments in Beards Backstory.

[01:21:54] And showing that Nate didn't just rip that sign.

[01:21:59] He hid from janitorial, from coaching.

[01:22:02] He hid under the desk for hours just so he wouldn't get caught.

[01:22:08] Because I think Nate was already ashamed of what he had done immediately after he had done it.

[01:22:17] So that was interesting.

[01:22:18] But I also want to make mention too, the reason why I wanted to bring up the video

[01:22:21] is because we talk about how emotionally charged that team was after seeing that video

[01:22:29] of Nate ripping the sign and how angry it made them and how like emotionally charged they get.

[01:22:37] The team reacts to emotions on the very positive or the very negative.

[01:22:45] Because a little bit later on in the season, we see the team get shown another video

[01:22:50] that is on the opposite side of this spectrum about how great they all work together and how

[01:22:56] everything happened, like how everybody gets along and they're this great big family.

[01:23:02] And it also has the negative effect in that it makes them all emotionally cry.

[01:23:08] Oh yeah. And then they go out to the game sobbing.

[01:23:12] They go out to the game all crying on the line and they're like,

[01:23:16] well maybe this was a mistake.

[01:23:20] They're a very emotional bunch.

[01:23:22] They are a very emotional team.

[01:23:25] Do you ever see New Girl? You've seen New Girl.

[01:23:27] Yeah, of course I've seen New Girl.

[01:23:28] You know this one.

[01:23:29] So do you remember the episode where Jess dates the football player

[01:23:34] and he like wanted to marry her within one date?

[01:23:38] I don't remember that episode.

[01:23:40] It's the 10-finity episode.

[01:23:42] I don't remember it.

[01:23:43] Go back and watch it.

[01:23:44] But Winston says something that applies here where he says they're professional sports players.

[01:23:51] They are very emotional, very competitive beings.

[01:23:54] They wear their emotions on the outside of their bodies and that's what makes them great.

[01:24:00] Okay. So that kind of plays right into it.

[01:24:04] They're anger in this episode and then their absolute fucking sadness.

[01:24:10] No, I don't think it was sadness.

[01:24:14] In that moment, I think they're just overwhelmed with connection,

[01:24:20] I guess, and realizing how much of a family they are.

[01:24:23] Well, isn't Ted leaving at that point too?

[01:24:26] Oh, I think you're right.

[01:24:27] I mean, it's like all coming on top of them.

[01:24:30] Yeah, I think it's a mix of everything.

[01:24:32] All of it, yeah.

[01:24:35] What did you have?

[01:24:36] I have one other thing, but what did you have for spoilers?

[01:24:39] Well, it was Ted wants Ted zeroing in on the thumb drive.

[01:24:44] Makes me remember that he probably watched the whole video.

[01:24:50] Everybody else was perfectly content in watching part of that footage.

[01:24:55] Nobody thought to continue watching past him ripping up that sign, except Ted.

[01:25:02] And we see what happens afterwards.

[01:25:05] So it's interesting to me that Beard and Roy, who got the footage in the first place,

[01:25:11] wouldn't have watched all of it.

[01:25:15] Yeah, because when Ted shows it to Beard in the penultimate,

[01:25:18] Beard had never seen it.

[01:25:19] Right.

[01:25:20] Yeah.

[01:25:21] So that was interesting to me because Beard's not that kind of a character.

[01:25:25] He's a whole story kind of character.

[01:25:27] Yeah. Well, but it kind of plays into the whole thing I had mentioned too about how Nate was in their head.

[01:25:33] Yes. Well, and he was really in Beard's head, but Beard and Roy are so angry.

[01:25:39] They're angry enough for Ted.

[01:25:43] Yeah.

[01:25:44] You know?

[01:25:45] So yeah, I mean, I just immediately thought of Ted watching the whole footage when I saw that particular story.

[01:25:54] And then there was something else

[01:25:57] that I said, oh, I'll save that for spoilers.

[01:26:03] It's gone.

[01:26:04] Okay. The only other thing I have for spoilers too is just kind of diving a little bit deeper into

[01:26:11] Ted confronting Michelle.

[01:26:12] That's probably where I wanted to go.

[01:26:14] So yeah, let's do that.

[01:26:15] And how I said, Michelle is seeing something in Ted that she's never seen and she's always wanted to see.

[01:26:21] It kind of leads a little bit more credence into the fact that when Ted leaves and goes home,

[01:26:26] Michelle and Jacob are not together anymore.

[01:26:29] That relationship is over.

[01:26:30] That relationship looked like it was over when she arrives to drop Henry off to go to Paris.

[01:26:35] That relationship probably ended with Ted's FaceTime right there.

[01:26:40] Well, we got a show.

[01:26:41] Michelle, you see Michelle happy.

[01:26:43] Like you said, she got the reaction that she has been wanting for years from him.

[01:26:48] She wanted an honest conversation.

[01:26:50] Yeah. Well, and not only that, but we see so during the finale, we see the footage of,

[01:26:55] you know, when they're playing the game and we see the footage of Henry and Michelle watching

[01:27:01] from home and Dr. Jacob being in the chair and him kind of like making comments about the game

[01:27:07] and then being like, shut up.

[01:27:08] Like we want to watch the game and him just kind of showing no interest in this game.

[01:27:13] And if you watch every time they cut to Michelle and Henry,

[01:27:17] Jacob is further and further away from them to the end where he's back behind the bar

[01:27:23] in the house.

[01:27:23] On his phone.

[01:27:24] He's just in the back on his phone.

[01:27:26] And I think that's kind of like a little subtle indication that this is just not,

[01:27:33] this is Michelle and Jacob falling further and further away from each other.

[01:27:35] So my guess is that he probably has been a part of hate watching the show or the games with

[01:27:41] Michelle, right?

[01:27:44] And but like pretending to be supportive at the same time for Henry's sake.

[01:27:49] And I think during this game, Michelle has detached herself emotionally from Dr. Jacob

[01:27:56] and I think probably sees now how toxic there we are again with that word.

[01:28:02] Dr. Jacob was to her personal life.

[01:28:06] Yeah.

[01:28:08] Yeah.

[01:28:08] It's, and I think it's a good like it's left very much up in the air and left to interpretation

[01:28:14] about the status of Ted and Michelle when this series ends.

[01:28:18] Because very clearly we see him return to his home that he shared with Michelle and Henry.

[01:28:23] And then we see him coaching Henry's team and Michelle is in the crowd.

[01:28:27] It's never indicated for certain that they are back together and they are a family again.

[01:28:33] But I think there are enough subtle clues starting with this episode

[01:28:37] that could you lead you to believe that they are giving it another go?

[01:28:41] Yeah.

[01:28:43] So, and I think this is that moment.

[01:28:45] I think her smiling after Ted confronting her on it

[01:28:49] and her getting what she's always wanted.

[01:28:51] I think this is the start of where you could be led to believe

[01:28:56] they are giving in another shot as a family.

[01:28:59] By the...

[01:28:59] Well, I've always thought that.

[01:29:02] Oh, I always thought you, I thought you had said before that they weren't together.

[01:29:05] No, I've never said that.

[01:29:07] He rolled right up and put his suitcase in their house.

[01:29:11] Yeah.

[01:29:12] I've never, ever, ever thought that they did not get back together.

[01:29:17] Okay.

[01:29:17] I think that they should all move back to Richmond and live their lives out there.

[01:29:23] We did have that conversation.

[01:29:25] Yes.

[01:29:25] Yeah.

[01:29:25] But it's a lot, I mean, it's a lot to uproot a child from their school

[01:29:31] and their friends, especially at that age.

[01:29:32] I wouldn't know anything about that.

[01:29:34] Oh, I know you've done it multiple times.

[01:29:35] Yeah.

[01:29:36] So don't talk to me about that.

[01:29:38] Yeah.

[01:29:38] I took that knife to the wrong gunfight.

[01:29:43] Yeah.

[01:29:46] Yeah, it was Harrison Ford and that moment I just shot you.

[01:29:48] Yeah.

[01:29:48] It's pretty much I dropped my whip as I fall to the floor.

[01:29:54] That's all I have for spoilers.

[01:29:56] Yeah.

[01:29:56] I don't have anything else.

[01:29:57] Okay.

[01:29:58] So then we welcome everybody back as we dive into some of our favorite quotes from the episode.

[01:30:03] I really said a lot of them as we were talking.

[01:30:06] Yeah, me too.

[01:30:07] I didn't even write them down.

[01:30:09] I do like, I did like Jamie's, wait, what is it?

[01:30:15] Jane's sister is in town.

[01:30:16] No thanks.

[01:30:18] Yeah, that's the other one.

[01:30:19] And it's, um, shit, what is fear and say is like that was the right choice or something about that.

[01:30:29] Yeah, where is that one?

[01:30:31] Where?

[01:30:35] Sorry.

[01:30:35] Um, shit.

[01:30:37] Where is that one?

[01:30:40] Oh, burning them.

[01:30:41] Oh, no, that's.

[01:30:44] Oh, I love the fact too, there's kind of like a nice dynamic between Rupert and Nate and then

[01:30:50] Ted and Rebecca in that Rupert comes in and says, burning them in night oil.

[01:30:54] I see and he says, yeah, sorry for the smell.

[01:30:57] The oil burning.

[01:30:59] He's trying to make a joke that just doesn't come across well.

[01:31:02] Right.

[01:31:03] And then it goes to Rebecca and Ted.

[01:31:04] She's like working later, hardly working.

[01:31:06] He's like, oh, I love that joke.

[01:31:08] And she's like, what joke?

[01:31:09] No, he said, I think that that's not how the joke goes or something.

[01:31:12] Oh, that's right.

[01:31:12] Yeah.

[01:31:12] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[01:31:13] But she's like, what are you talking about?

[01:31:16] But, oh, here it is.

[01:31:16] He says, uh, uh, I was thinking about your sassy situation.

[01:31:20] Oh yeah.

[01:31:21] Jane's sister is in town.

[01:31:22] No, thank you coach.

[01:31:23] That's the right answer before he leaves.

[01:31:27] That's the right answer.

[01:31:29] Yeah, that's, I really didn't write down a lot of quotes.

[01:31:35] It was a great episode.

[01:31:37] It was, it really was.

[01:31:39] Thank you for your help, Trent.

[01:31:41] May a young Robert Redford portray you in a film someday.

[01:31:44] Probably Dustin Hoffman.

[01:31:46] That's probably true.

[01:31:51] Yeah, I mean, it's rated at an 8.1,

[01:31:54] which is one of the higher episodes of the season.

[01:31:58] Well, actually it's not.

[01:31:59] There's a number of them.

[01:32:01] Next week's episode signs is only at a 7.2.

[01:32:04] What was one through three?

[01:32:07] So episode one was a 7.7.

[01:32:10] Episode two, I don't want to go to Chelsea.

[01:32:12] I don't want to go to Chelsea.

[01:32:15] 8.2, 451 was 7.9.

[01:32:18] Big week was 8.1.

[01:32:19] So not highly rated signs next week is 7.2,

[01:32:22] which it's actually, oh no, it's not the lowest.

[01:32:27] Sunflowers is an 8.9.

[01:32:29] Should be higher.

[01:32:31] We'll never have Paris, which is episode eight.

[01:32:33] That's at a 6.6.

[01:32:36] That was pretty low.

[01:32:38] That's the episode where...

[01:32:40] Michelle.

[01:32:41] With the Paris.

[01:32:42] Yeah, well, that's because everybody hates Michelle and Dr. Jacob.

[01:32:46] Which I think we shined a little bit of light on that in this episode.

[01:32:51] Locker Room Follies is 8.4.

[01:32:54] International Break is 8.5.

[01:32:56] And then...

[01:32:57] I love International Break.

[01:32:58] It gets a good episode.

[01:32:59] That episode is hilarious, and I love it.

[01:33:03] Wait, is that Happy Uncle Day?

[01:33:07] Is it?

[01:33:08] I think it is.

[01:33:09] Wait, is that...

[01:33:11] All I remember is Danny just being the most not Danny he's ever been.

[01:33:18] Well, oh, that's right.

[01:33:20] No, that isn't Happy Uncle's Day then.

[01:33:23] Because Jamie's away for that episode.

[01:33:25] And Sam wasn't able to represent Nigeria.

[01:33:34] Yes.

[01:33:34] If I remember correctly.

[01:33:35] Well, that's why Jamie's away.

[01:33:36] That's why Jamie...

[01:33:36] That's we get the moment with Jamie relating to Sam.

[01:33:40] But isn't that...

[01:33:41] So that's where they follow Jamie to his mom's house then?

[01:33:44] No, that's not until Mom City.

[01:33:45] Why are we sitting here just...

[01:33:47] I don't know.

[01:33:47] We're really spoiling the shit out of the rest of everything.

[01:33:51] We're not spoiling much.

[01:33:51] Oh, Mom City is.

[01:33:53] Yeah, you're right.

[01:33:54] Mom City is also Happy Uncle's Day.

[01:33:56] That's the penultimate, which is at a 9.3 and then the finale is 9.4.

[01:34:01] Those last two episodes are very good.

[01:34:03] Those last two episodes are going to be really tough to talk about.

[01:34:06] I can't wait.

[01:34:07] Especially the finale.

[01:34:08] I can't wait.

[01:34:09] I'm excited.

[01:34:10] Be prepared listeners.

[01:34:11] It's probably going to be a longer episode.

[01:34:14] Probably.

[01:34:15] Because just to do the callbacks alone is going to take some time.

[01:34:20] I'm excited.

[01:34:21] I am too.

[01:34:24] So real quick on some...

[01:34:25] Before we go into feedback, we're going to be done wrap...

[01:34:31] We're going to be wrapped with Ted Lasso before this happens.

[01:34:34] But they did recently announce while we were on our break,

[01:34:37] Ted Lasso was coming to Blu-ray and they're releasing all three seasons as a collection,

[01:34:43] as a Blu-ray collection.

[01:34:45] There's no reports yet on if there's any extras.

[01:34:47] I hope there are because I want outtakes of this show.

[01:34:52] But I'm thinking while we'll already be on our next series,

[01:34:58] I'm thinking of maybe picking up a copy and doing a giveaway.

[01:35:03] To some of the listeners.

[01:35:05] Not some, to just one.

[01:35:07] We're not made of fucking money.

[01:35:10] But I'm thinking maybe picking up a copy of it and just doing a giveaway of it.

[01:35:14] Even though we'll already be done talking about it, people will still want it.

[01:35:19] Yeah, that's fun.

[01:35:20] I like that idea.

[01:35:21] Yeah.

[01:35:24] But then with that being said, let's dive into spoilers for the episode in which we've been

[01:35:30] sitting on it for a while.

[01:35:31] But for everybody who left us feedback a couple weeks ago,

[01:35:35] we didn't forget about you.

[01:35:36] We got it all.

[01:35:37] So that's what we're going to talk about.

[01:35:40] So do you want to kick things off with the email that we received?

[01:35:44] Let me open it.

[01:35:46] Here we are.

[01:35:49] Scroll down.

[01:35:50] All right.

[01:35:50] Ready?

[01:35:51] Go for it.

[01:35:52] Okay.

[01:35:54] This is from Jason Kabazi.

[01:35:56] No, it's not.

[01:35:57] No, it's not.

[01:35:58] He forwarded it to us.

[01:35:59] Oh, stupid Jason.

[01:36:01] Okay.

[01:36:02] This is from Mark Nichols.

[01:36:04] Yay, Mark Nichols.

[01:36:05] I don't know who you are, but I'm really excited for you.

[01:36:07] He's a podcast-taker listener.

[01:36:09] Yeah, I'm saying yay.

[01:36:10] I'm still excited.

[01:36:11] Yay.

[01:36:12] Hallelujah.

[01:36:13] Okay.

[01:36:14] Ben and Kristen.

[01:36:15] I have binged all of the Ted Lasso podcast in the last week.

[01:36:18] Kristen is my favorite person in the whole world.

[01:36:22] Ben is pretty cool too, but Kristen speaks my language.

[01:36:25] She is a teacher like me and I love hearing her talk about how crazy the job has become.

[01:36:30] I love, love, love, love, love West Wing and Aaron Sorkin.

[01:36:33] I would like to formally submit a request that you do a podcast on it.

[01:36:37] Okay, deal.

[01:36:38] If you ever need a guest, I would be happy to join as I've seen the series 15 times.

[01:36:44] Oh, I love that.

[01:36:46] I know that you will do the good place,

[01:36:49] but I feel the need to send my formal request.

[01:36:52] Now, I already loved all she did and then you mentioned your love for Frogal Rock

[01:36:59] and I was singing along with you.

[01:37:02] Thank you for all you both do, especially Kristen.

[01:37:07] Love the podcast and love the fallout podcast as well, Ben.

[01:37:10] Thanks for all you do and looking forward to the next rewatch with you, West Wing.

[01:37:16] Thank you, Mark Nichols.

[01:37:18] Oh, Mark, I think you're one of my favorite people in the whole world.

[01:37:21] I'm not upset at all about all the love for Kristen over me because I agree with you.

[01:37:26] Kristen's awesome.

[01:37:28] I would love to know what you teach.

[01:37:30] Send me more about what you teach.

[01:37:33] But thank you for like binging all of the episodes.

[01:37:37] That's a lot of time.

[01:37:38] Yeah, that is a lot of time and that's a lot of our voice.

[01:37:42] Oh, God, yeah.

[01:37:42] Sometimes I come home from work and I'm like, if I have to talk to one more person today,

[01:37:46] I am going to tear my own voice box out of my throat.

[01:37:50] That's how much I hate the sound of my voice by the end of the day.

[01:37:54] Like, I'll come home and Dave is like, how was your day?

[01:37:57] And I'm like, no.

[01:37:58] I don't want to talk about it.

[01:37:59] No.

[01:38:00] Why don't you tell me about your day and then tell me about read me a book.

[01:38:04] I don't care.

[01:38:05] I like the idea and I like the image I just got of you just literally going to

[01:38:09] looking at Dave and be like, no.

[01:38:14] And that's all it is.

[01:38:14] Like, you don't say anything else.

[01:38:16] How was your day?

[01:38:17] No.

[01:38:17] No.

[01:38:19] Sorry.

[01:38:21] Yeah, no.

[01:38:22] Oh, it's crazy right now too.

[01:38:24] I mean, I could probably do my own podcast on how nuts education is right now and how

[01:38:28] nuts being a middle school teacher is right now.

[01:38:30] I mean, woof, woof, woof, woof.

[01:38:34] I've had some crazy, crazy things happen to me in the last couple of weeks while

[01:38:38] we've been on a break.

[01:38:40] You have told me stories in the past so I can only imagine some of the stuff that you need.

[01:38:44] Yeah.

[01:38:44] It's like turned up to 11 right now.

[01:38:47] Because kids are getting all their power from their parents and parents know that they have

[01:38:51] all the power and social media has ruined it for teachers and admin boughs to parents and

[01:38:57] school board boughs to parents and the state boughs to parents and parents.

[01:39:02] I love you, but you're not in the classroom.

[01:39:04] You are not in the classroom.

[01:39:06] And until you are prepared to be in the classroom all day long and see what's

[01:39:10] going on in the classroom, you don't get a vote period.

[01:39:15] I, with the exception of doing stuff for the podcast and for moderating and stuff like that

[01:39:22] and network connections, I have backed off of social media a lot because I'm starting to

[01:39:26] realize how toxic of a place it really is.

[01:39:28] There's that word again.

[01:39:32] Even the simplest things, I will go on Facebook or Instagram and I will watch just

[01:39:37] these short one minute videos of cats.

[01:39:41] It's all it is.

[01:39:43] It's all it is.

[01:39:43] Just cats doing stupid cute stuff.

[01:39:46] And as a cat owner, I love them because like I love those cats.

[01:39:50] And then you make the mistake of going into the comments and it's like, oh, you shouldn't

[01:39:55] have done that because the cat's afraid.

[01:39:57] It's like, oh, here comes another fucking know it all in the comments.

[01:40:01] Right.

[01:40:01] Like just close your mouth because you don't know anything.

[01:40:04] Have you seen the cats with brain freeze video?

[01:40:07] Yes.

[01:40:08] Because they are the one where the cat falls off the top of the thing and falls in the

[01:40:12] bucket and you hear, oh, shit from the cat.

[01:40:17] I haven't seen that one.

[01:40:19] Wonderful.

[01:40:20] Like I don't even know if it's oh shit, but the cat on a piece says something like,

[01:40:25] ah, no.

[01:40:27] It's God.

[01:40:28] I love cat videos.

[01:40:29] Cats are glorious.

[01:40:30] I think they're a lot of fun.

[01:40:33] But let's go.

[01:40:33] Let's continue on with the feedback.

[01:40:36] So we have a couple of voicemails to play that we've been sitting on for a while,

[01:40:39] as I mentioned.

[01:40:40] And this first one comes from our friend Greg.

[01:40:44] Good morning, revisited.

[01:40:46] This is Greg.

[01:40:49] This week for the big week episode, I just want to touch on one particular point.

[01:40:56] And yes, Kristen, you're correct.

[01:41:00] I am a reasonably forgiving person.

[01:41:04] I am a forgiving person because I fuck up a lot.

[01:41:11] And so I prefer to give other people the benefit of the doubt.

[01:41:17] I have made poor choices.

[01:41:19] I have made mistakes and I understand you guys can't stand made.

[01:41:26] And I can appreciate that.

[01:41:29] But from my point of view, I've been in that situation where you've basically,

[01:41:35] not backstabbed necessarily, but you've really hurt someone who was a friend

[01:41:42] because you had personal resentment towards them.

[01:41:45] Because I had personal resentment towards them.

[01:41:48] And you want to go to apologize and we see this in Nate.

[01:41:54] And I can only imagine this has been happening since he left.

[01:42:00] Like once you get past the anger and once all that's left is to move forward,

[01:42:08] like if you don't, you can't seek them out.

[01:42:11] You can't look.

[01:42:13] I couldn't because at heart I am a coward.

[01:42:18] It is very, very difficult for me to go to someone and say,

[01:42:24] I am sorry for what I've done.

[01:42:27] Even though, like if somebody, if they face me with it,

[01:42:31] I willingly accept the consequences.

[01:42:34] But it's very hard for me to go to somebody who I have hurt and say,

[01:42:41] I'm sorry.

[01:42:42] I can't like to seek them out.

[01:42:46] Anyway, so again, one of the reasons that I say this show hits so hard

[01:42:51] because I identify with so many aspects of it.

[01:42:54] I would say like the only people I don't identify with are Beard and Jane.

[01:42:59] And next week we're going to get another one, not Beard and Jane,

[01:43:02] but another big one that hit me emotionally.

[01:43:06] But all right, I'll leave that here or stop us here.

[01:43:09] And hopefully you guys are able to give this in before the podcast.

[01:43:15] Bye.

[01:43:15] I think it's important to note, Greg, that if you've listened,

[01:43:22] our opinions of Nate have changed this episode.

[01:43:26] So we're kind of more towards your line of thinking with everything now.

[01:43:32] Well, look, I see the path to redemption for Nate.

[01:43:40] However, Nate still talks.

[01:43:46] Yeah, like I said, his behavior, which we didn't even talk about in this episode,

[01:43:51] but his behavior at Taste of Athens was so cringe and so gross.

[01:43:55] And just like, well, I'm Nate Schilly.

[01:43:57] Sorry, I haven't been here in a while.

[01:43:59] I love Jade.

[01:44:01] This is the most I love Jade is her saying like, I haven't even noticed.

[01:44:06] Well, Jade ends up, spoiler, I don't want to talk about it.

[01:44:10] Yep.

[01:44:10] Yep.

[01:44:10] Yep.

[01:44:11] Can't say it because it's spoilery.

[01:44:12] Okay.

[01:44:14] But I agree.

[01:44:15] And it doesn't help, too, that the manager of the restaurant kind of enforces it

[01:44:20] by making him seem like he's somebody important,

[01:44:24] you know, that he's been recognized as being somebody of importance in this city.

[01:44:29] So I get it.

[01:44:31] Again, I don't, I said it when we talked about it during the podcast proper.

[01:44:36] I don't forgive what Nate has done,

[01:44:39] but I do look at Nate a little differently now because of this episode.

[01:44:45] This episode and also recognizing Ted's faults in what happened in season two.

[01:44:54] Paying attention to that, watching it again with that in mind was actually really helpful.

[01:45:01] It's still really hard to forgive Nate because I think that we've all been wronged by a

[01:45:06] Nate in our lives.

[01:45:09] In whatever instance that our betrayal was, I mean, everybody has betrayal in their life.

[01:45:15] There's nobody on this earth that would be like, nobody's ever betrayed me.

[01:45:18] Well, no, that's false.

[01:45:20] Right?

[01:45:21] So the reason why we're so emotional with this storyline is because we know how all of this

[01:45:27] feels and this is just on a grander scale.

[01:45:30] Yeah.

[01:45:31] So it's nice to rewatch it.

[01:45:34] It's nice to rewatch anything.

[01:45:37] Right now we're rewatching or I'm rewatching, but again, lost.

[01:45:42] And we're in the final season.

[01:45:45] My family is just so frustrated and confused and it's so funny.

[01:45:52] And it dawns on me, it's dawned on me a lot is that the minute you're done with season six,

[01:45:58] you need to watch season six again.

[01:46:01] Just season six before you go back and do a rewatch because you need all that information

[01:46:05] in order to rewatch it and actually see what's happening in that season.

[01:46:09] And I think the same can be said for Ted Lasso is that there are these huge things

[01:46:15] that are happening and huge emotions and we get caught up in them like we do in real life.

[01:46:20] But when we go back and we look at what actually happened, we can see how it happened.

[01:46:27] And that kind of understanding and that kind of awareness, I think, is therapeutic and it's

[01:46:35] healthy and it takes that toxicity out.

[01:46:40] What do you think?

[01:46:40] Am I making any sense?

[01:46:42] No, I think it makes complete sense and I agree with you.

[01:46:44] I think there...

[01:46:46] Again, like I noticed things just in rewatching back to back in two nights.

[01:46:53] You know, I mentioned I watched four or five one into big week and then rewatch

[01:46:56] big week again this morning and was picking up on things that really were changing my opinion.

[01:47:01] So the whole rewatch thing, I totally get that.

[01:47:05] It's one of the reasons why we do this podcast is going back and rewatching things.

[01:47:09] So no, I think it totally makes a lot of sense.

[01:47:12] I think one other important thing to mention about Greg's voicemail too is I boosted

[01:47:16] the volume of that before we even played it and it was still low.

[01:47:21] It's still very soft.

[01:47:23] Because that's just Greg's voice and demeanor.

[01:47:27] I think that he's doing these around sleeping children.

[01:47:29] What do you think?

[01:47:31] I was also going to say, I'm like, Greg, if somebody else is in the room, just let us know

[01:47:35] because we'll call for help.

[01:47:38] Blink twice.

[01:47:40] Press the zero button twice on your phone.

[01:47:45] Just let out a long button press and we'll know you're in trouble.

[01:47:49] We'll send the authorities.

[01:47:51] Sorry, Greg.

[01:47:52] We love you.

[01:47:55] Hold on.

[01:47:55] Hold on.

[01:47:56] Hold on.

[01:47:56] I got this.

[01:47:57] I got this.

[01:47:58] Greg, this is what you need to do.

[01:47:59] Ready?

[01:48:03] Did you hear that?

[01:48:04] No, hear nothing at all.

[01:48:05] Hang on.

[01:48:10] Okay.

[01:48:10] That's what you do.

[01:48:14] That joke almost completely faltered and it just partially faltered.

[01:48:18] Oh, I got to turn my sound off on my phone now.

[01:48:21] Just in case.

[01:48:22] Well, it's a big lightsaber sound when I get texts

[01:48:25] and my teacher group right now is blowing up

[01:48:28] because we're going to Dollywood for our end of year trip.

[01:48:34] Okay.

[01:48:36] That Dollywood trip is in like four days.

[01:48:39] Let's move on then to a voicemail from our friend, Alex.

[01:48:45] Hey, y'all.

[01:48:45] Alice Kruger here, leaving feedback for big week.

[01:48:48] I'm going to start off with the folks at KJPR today.

[01:48:51] How in the world did Keely not know the name or anything at all about the person financing her

[01:48:55] business? How is Barbara not going over this yet with Keely?

[01:48:59] I just don't see season one or season two, Keely, not doing the research and being more on top of

[01:49:03] things. The depreciation of her business acumen is so disheartening this season.

[01:49:09] And Shandy has yet to have a single redeeming quality.

[01:49:11] Even when she gets things right, there's a way about her and the way that she carries

[01:49:15] herself though is so frustrating.

[01:49:17] She never should have held the authority to change the banter tagline,

[01:49:20] which again is more commentary on how Keely has been running KJPR.

[01:49:24] I remember starting to warm up to Barbara in this episode.

[01:49:27] Her crazy starts to come out and it's quite fun.

[01:49:30] But God, she wishes she worked for Rebecca instead of Keely and possibly Jack.

[01:49:34] Speaking of Jack, what a crude way to say hi to Keely in front of Keely's friends.

[01:49:38] I believe you have something of mine.

[01:49:40] Cringe.

[01:49:42] Propster Rebecca for bringing back the Oklahoma save for it with Ted when she

[01:49:45] knew he was holding back.

[01:49:46] And good for Ted for telling Michelle how he felt.

[01:49:49] I imagine it was really important for Michelle to have Ted just admit he was mad and not try to

[01:49:53] fix it and not brush it off. But he allowed himself to be mad with how concerned he was

[01:49:58] with always making situations better. It has to mean a lot to Michelle that he offered no

[01:50:02] solutions. He didn't let anyone off the hook and he just let it be crazy.

[01:50:07] What happens when he has a good therapist working with him and not a creepy jerk off

[01:50:11] with an ulterior motive?

[01:50:12] Still, at the end of the call, I feel like he left 70% of what needed said on the table,

[01:50:17] but he didn't leave everything on the table.

[01:50:20] Now, I may be in the minority, but I am a huge Jade fan.

[01:50:24] I like that she's very much herself, doesn't get rattled and stays consistent always.

[01:50:29] I'm sure some will frame her interest of Nate in the fact that she found out he actually was

[01:50:34] a big deal. But I have an alternative way of thinking of this.

[01:50:38] Nate is kind of aloof and very uncouth around her.

[01:50:41] Once she realizes he is someone successful in his career and capable of having good

[01:50:44] press conferences with British media, she realizes he's mostly flustered because of her.

[01:50:49] She finds it endearing. She starts to realize he does have a certain Genesequa, yet he's

[01:50:55] still adorkable. And yes, it's time for me to defend old Nathan Shelley.

[01:51:00] As we know, I believe in people being redeemable. Here's what shows Nate is just

[01:51:04] being poisoned by Rupert and was manipulated at a very weak point in his life.

[01:51:08] In the beginning, when the Ted figurine falls off the table, sure, he smirks at first,

[01:51:12] but then he catches himself and picks Ted back up and puts him back because Rupert isn't around.

[01:51:16] Nate's in his best basement or whatever.

[01:51:19] Nate was about to apologize or at least address his exit in the elevator until Rupert appeared.

[01:51:24] And lastly, Nate left a celebratory press conference, the most important in a grandizing

[01:51:29] press conference since he signed on his manager to seek out and apologize to Ted for ignoring

[01:51:34] his handshake. It's only when he sees Ted talking to Trent for whom Nate added Ted to,

[01:51:39] and when Olive Oil gives Nate Rupert's invitation, does he change his mind?

[01:51:43] Olive Oil.

[01:51:43] So I'm on the side of Nate the Great and his redemption arc. I like redemption stories for

[01:51:48] characters that are genuinely capable of being good, like Benjamin Linus or Sandor Clegane,

[01:51:53] Michael from The Good Place or Negan.

[01:51:56] Don't do that!

[01:51:57] That's it for me this week, though, folks. Looking forward to inching towards Amsterdam.

[01:52:01] And as always, we're not the only ones in this island and we all know it.

[01:52:05] I knew where he was going with that the minute he started. That's why I said,

[01:52:10] yeah, yeah, in the beginning because I knew I knew it was coming. Alex, I love you. I love you.

[01:52:17] You're like one of my favorite guests that I've ever had on any podcast I've ever done.

[01:52:22] I think we think very similarly and I think you're great, but you're fucking wrong on this.

[01:52:29] I, watching your reaction, knowing what was coming was the best. Thank you for that, Alex.

[01:52:43] That was the most emotional roller coaster, nonverbal roller coaster I've ever been on.

[01:52:50] Your reactions during the entire voicemail were fun to watch, but when it got to that

[01:52:54] point where he started talking about redeemable characters and started listing people.

[01:53:01] Sandor Clegane. You know what? Don't ever put Sandor Clegane with Negan ever again,

[01:53:06] please, for the love of God. Oh, Alex, thank you for that.

[01:53:13] That was great. And yeah, we saw a lot of the same thing. We mentioned a lot of the

[01:53:17] same things about Nate in this episode. Would you already know because you've

[01:53:19] listened to the whole thing. Yeah, exactly. Thanks for being our echo chamber.

[01:53:24] But that was a brilliant way to end that voicemail.

[01:53:27] And Negan. Because you audibly got Kristen riled up with that.

[01:53:32] It's not hard to get me riled up. Can we just all agree on this? Okay, I live my life very out loud.

[01:53:40] Alex, here's your challenge for next voicemail. Find a way to incorporate positivity with Negan

[01:53:48] and ready player one. No, shut up. Just don't. Don't. Okay, don't take that challenge.

[01:53:54] That's not a challenge that anybody needs. I want to congratulate Alex real quick, too,

[01:53:59] because he did start a podcast as we had mentioned before. He's got his...

[01:54:04] I apologize, Alex, for not knowing the name off the top of my head. But it is a Phillies-based

[01:54:08] podcast and they've since actually gotten picked up by a sports podcasting network.

[01:54:12] That is so great. Well, he's got a great voice for this.

[01:54:17] Yeah. And you can tell he does his research and he does what needs to be done. So,

[01:54:21] yeah, congratulations on the podcast being picked up and being part of a network now, which is great.

[01:54:26] That is wonderful news. Congratulations. He actually... He reached out to me and asked me when they were

[01:54:32] like getting approached by it, like if I had any advice on...

[01:54:37] Which meant a lot too that he reached out to me about it.

[01:54:39] That's great. Let's have him on again.

[01:54:42] I'm down for that, for sure. All right, let's do... We got one more piece of feedback,

[01:54:48] which is a voicemail from our friend, Steve Brown.

[01:54:50] Live, Steven.

[01:54:53] Hello, Ben and Christian. This is Steve and this is going to be for Ted Lasso,

[01:54:56] season three, episode four, big week.

[01:54:58] Oh, who's banging on Jamie's door? Oh, it's Roy. Time for training.

[01:55:04] He's winning the poo at it while sleeping, Jamie. T-shirt, no drawers. That's just weird.

[01:55:11] Roy, I'll start flicking your balls.

[01:55:13] Oh, that's right. The picture that Nate talked about is in Ted's home, not in his office.

[01:55:20] He got it on with Sassy's birthday again. Marlboro Man and Sassy love it.

[01:55:24] I didn't know passengers had Uber ratings. I didn't know that.

[01:55:28] I had to start pausing it to make comments because I'm missing things.

[01:55:30] Sassy's real name is Flo. I don't think... Did we already know that?

[01:55:34] He says it to the Uber driver.

[01:55:35] Jamie explains why. Cold upstairs and hot downstairs.

[01:55:40] I just pause it and notice that this episode is over 45 minutes.

[01:55:44] This is going to be a long voicemail. Sorry.

[01:55:46] Brilliant Hunt is just hilarious and he pulled that off flawlessly.

[01:55:50] I wonder how many takes it took to do that rant about thinking and not thinking over thinking

[01:55:55] and Nate's thinking and our thinking.

[01:55:57] Jane makes him go to Code of Pinnots Anonymous with her.

[01:56:01] Oh, so they just found out that the bully sign was Tor.

[01:56:05] Jake doesn't recognize him, but the guy bringing out the takeout does recognize him.

[01:56:08] And then Jake gets his name wrong. Jason Smelly, what did she say?

[01:56:12] He got a charge for booze, but it's 12... I didn't order it, it's 12.30.

[01:56:15] But it's five o'clock somewhere, Nate. Come on.

[01:56:17] Oh, and Nate beefed it trying to get the sign down the first time,

[01:56:21] but then he gets it and he does tear it up.

[01:56:24] I love all the President's men reference there, but when Ted calls it,

[01:56:29] Trent said, may a young Robert Revford play you and then Trent says,

[01:56:33] probably Dustin Hoffman.

[01:56:34] Great.

[01:56:35] Okay. So Ted's scrolling through the messages from Dr. Jacob and then

[01:56:38] Rebecca comes in and she gives him the Oklahoma, which means right till the truth.

[01:56:42] I live in Oklahoma.

[01:56:43] So they're playing at West Ham.

[01:56:45] Oh, that's why Rebecca has a suite.

[01:56:48] Hey, I know they're holding the reveal of Jack being a woman,

[01:56:52] but Kaley just called, Kaley just called him a hem, called her a hem,

[01:56:56] and Rebecca did not correct her.

[01:56:57] So hilarious that not even we knew Nate was in the elevator

[01:57:01] until Ted moved and we saw him with his nose in the corner.

[01:57:04] Wait, did none of them know that Jack was a woman?

[01:57:07] Hey, Rebecca, they're down to nil.

[01:57:09] I don't know if this pep talk is really helping Ted's anxiety.

[01:57:12] Hey, I'm going to admit,

[01:57:13] I forgot that the team saw the video of Nate tearing the believe sign

[01:57:17] and I don't remember how this game ends.

[01:57:20] How they certainly did show a side of themselves.

[01:57:22] That aggression will not stand.

[01:57:25] Okay.

[01:57:26] That little press conference buy from Zava.

[01:57:28] Zava is the worst.

[01:57:31] I could say Zava just sucks, but that would be redundant.

[01:57:37] Good catch, Ted.

[01:57:38] I would probably not have caught that if it was thrown at me.

[01:57:41] The thumb drive, I mean.

[01:57:42] As much as I hate to admit this, there's twice this episode

[01:57:45] that I think Nate was about to try to do something decent

[01:57:48] and it got interrupted by Rupert.

[01:57:51] Oh, and that final conversation there between Michelle and Ted

[01:57:53] is just heartbreaking.

[01:57:55] All right, talk to you next week.

[01:57:59] I forgot to mention,

[01:58:01] we forgot to talk about the picture that Roy gave Ted.

[01:58:04] We actually see-

[01:58:04] We've talked about that picture before.

[01:58:06] We talk about it, but I don't think we ever saw it.

[01:58:08] Yeah.

[01:58:09] This is the first time we see it in Ted's house.

[01:58:11] Nope.

[01:58:12] It's not?

[01:58:12] Okay.

[01:58:12] Nope.

[01:58:13] It isn't.

[01:58:14] We see it in the finale of season two

[01:58:17] when they're both getting ready for the game

[01:58:20] and it shows his dresser as he's listening to the song.

[01:58:24] Okay.

[01:58:24] As he's-

[01:58:25] It's-

[01:58:27] It wasn't getting ready for the game.

[01:58:28] It was getting ready for something where he had to wear a suit

[01:58:31] or something.

[01:58:32] Was it Rebecca's father's-

[01:58:34] Maybe it was.

[01:58:35] Maybe it was.

[01:58:35] Yeah.

[01:58:36] Because I remember because it was the song,

[01:58:38] he was either playing the song or singing the song

[01:58:41] that he said if it takes longer than this song to get ready-

[01:58:44] The Phil Collins.

[01:58:45] Yeah.

[01:58:45] Right.

[01:58:46] And it shows him getting ready through the mirror

[01:58:49] on the dresser and on the dresser is the picture.

[01:58:52] Okay.

[01:58:53] Because we actually talked about the fact that

[01:58:55] he doesn't have it in his office because he has it at home

[01:58:58] because that's how much he thinks of that picture.

[01:59:01] Oh, I remember we talked about it,

[01:59:02] but I couldn't remember if we had actually seen it.

[01:59:04] Yeah, we saw it.

[01:59:05] Okay.

[01:59:06] I got reminded too of another quote that we didn't mention

[01:59:12] is when Higgins tries to tell his joke,

[01:59:15] a father and son are in a car wreck.

[01:59:17] Dad dies instantly.

[01:59:18] The son is rushed to an emergency room.

[01:59:21] A surgeon walks in and says,

[01:59:22] I can't operate on this boy.

[01:59:23] He's my son.

[01:59:24] How is this possible?

[01:59:26] There's like four different answers

[01:59:28] because she's a woman.

[01:59:29] She's gay.

[01:59:30] Sperm donor.

[01:59:30] He lives in a simulation.

[01:59:33] Right.

[01:59:33] Yeah.

[01:59:33] I guess that's a bit dated now.

[01:59:38] Yeah, because he said how is that possible?

[01:59:39] And I had the same thought.

[01:59:40] So I was like, could be like one of 10 different options.

[01:59:44] Yeah.

[01:59:47] Yeah, it's good.

[01:59:48] But yeah, it is a bit dated.

[01:59:50] But thank you to everybody who left feedback

[01:59:53] for this episode.

[01:59:55] Can we get some ladies in the bunch please?

[01:59:58] So Ann Wynn is getting caught up on things.

[02:00:01] Hopefully she's hearing this caught up now

[02:00:04] and she'll start sending us feedback for future episodes.

[02:00:06] Need some ladies.

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[02:00:21] Finally, before we head out,

[02:00:23] recommendations on anything.

[02:00:26] It's been a little bit.

[02:00:26] So we might have one or two.

[02:00:29] First of all, I agree with you with the text that you sent me.

[02:00:32] Bad Batch ended beautifully.

[02:00:35] Perfectly.

[02:00:36] Yep.

[02:00:37] Loved Bad Batch.

[02:00:38] I thought anybody that wants to see a quick and dirty

[02:00:42] three seasons of a really solid animated Star Wars show,

[02:00:47] Bad Batch is top of the list.

[02:00:50] Bad Batch is one of the best things

[02:00:51] I think Star Wars has ever put out.

[02:00:54] I said the same exact thing.

[02:00:55] I think this third season,

[02:00:57] the whole third season was great.

[02:00:59] But the finale was just superb.

[02:01:02] Every, well, and they had to make sure that it made sense

[02:01:04] because it has to go into canon.

[02:01:07] And it was emotional.

[02:01:09] Yes.

[02:01:10] Yes.

[02:01:11] Yes.

[02:01:12] And I just love,

[02:01:14] I just,

[02:01:16] I also just love those characters so much.

[02:01:19] These characters are so good.

[02:01:21] I'm excited because I'm working a couple shows

[02:01:23] for the rest of this year with D. Bradley Baker,

[02:01:26] who does the voice of all the clones.

[02:01:29] I'm so jealous.

[02:01:30] That's gonna be so fun.

[02:01:31] He does a number of voices in Star Wars canon,

[02:01:33] but he does the voice of all the clones for the Bad Batch.

[02:01:35] Which is a lot of work, I imagine.

[02:01:37] Yeah.

[02:01:38] It's five characters.

[02:01:39] Right.

[02:01:40] Well.

[02:01:41] Well, it becomes four, but...

[02:01:43] I like it that both of us were like...

[02:01:44] It's good.

[02:01:45] Wow.

[02:01:47] But I mean, it was incredibly emotional.

[02:01:48] It was such a great finale so much.

[02:01:50] So I said the same thing afterwards.

[02:01:51] I was like, you know what?

[02:01:53] I think the Bad Batch might be one of my favorite things

[02:01:55] of Star Wars canon.

[02:01:57] Well, and Rebels was always at the top for me.

[02:02:00] And Rebels definitely was beat out by Bad Batch.

[02:02:03] Nothing will ever beat Andor for me ever.

[02:02:07] I still need to watch it.

[02:02:08] You know what?

[02:02:09] I can't even talk about that with you

[02:02:11] because it's been too long.

[02:02:13] But Andor is still 100% my favorite,

[02:02:16] followed very closely by Bad Batch,

[02:02:18] then Rebels and then probably Ahsoka.

[02:02:21] I still need to watch that too.

[02:02:22] Ahsoka only mainly because also it's a...

[02:02:25] Rebels closure.

[02:02:27] Yeah.

[02:02:28] And I...

[02:02:30] As Rebels fans, we all needed that closure.

[02:02:32] Every last Rebels fan needed that closure.

[02:02:37] That's one of the reasons why I still need to watch it.

[02:02:38] Yep.

[02:02:40] It closes out that story so it makes it

[02:02:42] so that the next season can truly be about Ahsoka, I think.

[02:02:46] Not to mention the fact that it was very quick in passing,

[02:02:49] but I did get the opportunity to meet Hayden and Rosario

[02:02:52] at Fan Expo a couple weekends ago.

[02:02:55] Buried the lead.

[02:02:56] What is wrong with you?

[02:02:59] Well, because again, it was very quick in passing.

[02:03:03] I didn't really get an opportunity to talk to them.

[02:03:05] It was just like, oh, nice to meet you.

[02:03:07] Nice to meet you.

[02:03:07] And then they went on stage.

[02:03:09] So...

[02:03:10] I'd love to have done that panel.

[02:03:11] My buddy Victor did that panel and he did it fantastically.

[02:03:14] I'm sure.

[02:03:15] So any other recommendations other than Bad Batch?

[02:03:19] Probably.

[02:03:22] I actually...

[02:03:22] I can't think of any right now.

[02:03:24] I actually have a book recommendation for my book.

[02:03:26] Oh cool.

[02:03:27] I love books.

[02:03:29] I started reading this book in preparation for my panel with the office

[02:03:34] because Rayne Wilson was going to be a part of it.

[02:03:37] And this book ended up actually being huge to me when I was done with it.

[02:03:42] Rayne Wilson, who plays Dwight on The Office, wrote a book

[02:03:46] that has become a New York Times bestseller and it's called Soul Boom.

[02:03:49] Why We Need A Spiritual Revolution.

[02:03:53] It is not an autobiography.

[02:03:55] He's already written one of those.

[02:03:57] This is a legit book about spirituality and finding spirituality and how a majority of people

[02:04:07] in this world and in this country who say, oh, I'm spiritual but I'm not religious,

[02:04:12] don't actually know what that means.

[02:04:15] And this book dives into how you can be spiritual without being religious.

[02:04:22] And just why people need to find spirituality in their life.

[02:04:26] And I have never been a spiritual person.

[02:04:30] I am now because of this book.

[02:04:32] Wow, that's big talk because I know how you feel.

[02:04:35] I'm not religious but this book shining a light on what it actually means to be a spiritual person

[02:04:43] really opened my eyes to a lot of things.

[02:04:45] Okay, but if he starts a cult you can't join it?

[02:04:48] I know.

[02:04:49] I know.

[02:04:49] I don't plan to.

[02:04:52] But I got the opportunity to talk to Rain about the book and thank you for writing it.

[02:04:58] Thank him for writing it and that I've, you know, what it meant to me.

[02:05:03] And he was very appreciative of that.

[02:05:06] Didn't get him to sign it because I don't need signatures on a book.

[02:05:09] I didn't care.

[02:05:10] If it was an autobiography it would be one thing.

[02:05:13] But this book being about spirituality was just incredibly eye-opening.

[02:05:18] And that's rare that I ever say that about books.

[02:05:21] Yeah.

[02:05:23] So that's a book like that.

[02:05:25] So you know if I say it about this book I mean it.

[02:05:27] That's awesome.

[02:05:28] I love that.

[02:05:29] You should read the four agreements.

[02:05:33] What is, what is that?

[02:05:35] It's a very short book and it is just about the four promises that you should make to

[02:05:43] yourself daily just to live a good life.

[02:05:46] Okay.

[02:05:47] It's great.

[02:05:48] You know, it's literally like four chapters, maybe six chapters with an introduction and a

[02:05:53] conclusion.

[02:05:53] But it's about the four agreements that you should make with yourself and why.

[02:05:58] Changed my life.

[02:05:59] I read it when I was 25.

[02:06:02] Okay.

[02:06:03] I will check it out.

[02:06:05] The four agreements.

[02:06:06] All right.

[02:06:07] Yep.

[02:06:07] I will check that out.

[02:06:09] Any other recommendations or anything before we get ready to wrap things up?

[02:06:13] I mean maybe eat some tasty cake, lemon mini donuts.

[02:06:16] If you can find tasty cakes of any kind just go to town.

[02:06:20] Go to town.

[02:06:21] Yeah.

[02:06:22] If you're from Philly they're easy to find.

[02:06:23] They're everywhere.

[02:06:25] They're literally everywhere.

[02:06:29] Next Monday is Memorial Day but we will still have a new episode for you because we

[02:06:34] were not recording on Memorial Day.

[02:06:35] It's just going to release on Memorial Day.

[02:06:39] Next week's episode, season three, episode five signs which is

[02:06:47] an interesting episode to say the least particularly with Zava.

[02:06:53] So, but that's about it for me.

[02:06:56] Anything else for you?

[02:06:57] I'm good.

[02:06:57] Nope.

[02:06:58] All right.

[02:06:59] So then with that being said thank you as always.

[02:07:01] Thank you for being patient and waiting for us to return that first and foremost.

[02:07:06] Yes.

[02:07:07] But thank you for listening, for leaving feedback, for subscribing, all that you

[02:07:10] guys do.

[02:07:11] But until next time we'll see you guys back out on the pitch.

[02:07:14] Take care.

[02:07:15] Namaste.

[02:07:16] Bye-bye.