Episode 131: TED LASSO S03E02 "(I Don't Want to Go to) Chelsea"

[00:00:00] Oh, we just had the most upsetting rumor. Okay, is this about us getting Zava?

[00:00:16] We're getting Zava? I just wished for that 30 seconds ago.

[00:00:21] What the hell are you doing?

[00:00:25] Hold on, hold on, hold on a second. Okay, if you all weren't talking about Zava, what were

[00:00:31] he so upset about? Is it because Trent Crimson's writing a book about us?

[00:00:34] What?

[00:00:36] Wait, Trent Crimson's writing a book about Zava joining our team.

[00:00:39] No, no, he's just coming here to write a book about the team.

[00:00:41] Zava's writing a book about us.

[00:00:43] Oh, Trent Crimson.

[00:00:45] Why would Zava write a book about Trent Crimson?

[00:00:47] Okay, hold on a second. If you all didn't know about Zava, which may or may not happened,

[00:00:57] and you all didn't know about Trent Crim, which is happening, then what were you so worked

[00:01:02] up about?

[00:01:03] Bro, are you kidding me broke up?

[00:01:13] Okay, a little light-headed there.

[00:01:14] Yeah, thank you.

[00:01:15] Fuck, Skydon...

[00:01:20] Char!

[00:01:21] No, A-A-A-A-A! I didn't say anything!

[00:01:23] I was fucking kill you!

[00:01:24] No, I came in and I was talking about us getting zava!

[00:01:27] What?

[00:01:29] We get zava!

[00:01:31] Roy, do you want to talk about him?

[00:01:33] No, I'm not talking about Mancane.

[00:01:36] No, I'm in zava.

[00:01:37] Do you want to talk about him?

[00:01:38] Sure, he's nuts, but he'll help us win games.

[00:01:41] That time I was actually talking about you and Keeley.

[00:01:44] Hey, Will, where is it?

[00:01:45] Yeah, man.

[00:01:46] Hey.

[00:01:47] I need you to run in my apartment, go into my desk,

[00:01:49] and grab my CD called Ted's Breakup Mix.

[00:01:52] OK?

[00:01:52] Got it.

[00:01:53] OK.

[00:01:53] What's the CD?

[00:01:54] Oh, boy.

[00:01:55] On it.

[00:01:55] Hey, coach, you want to eat my keys?

[00:01:57] I got a set.

[00:01:59] Right.

[00:02:00] Thanks, don't worry about it.

[00:02:01] Hey, Roy, look, we're here for you.

[00:02:03] OK?

[00:02:04] We've all been dumped before, right, fellas?

[00:02:07] She didn't dump me!

[00:02:09] I brought a cup with her.

[00:02:10] Oh, cute.

[00:02:12] What?

[00:02:40] Welcome to another episode of the Revisited podcast. I'm Ben and I'm Kristen. This week we

[00:02:49] are revisiting Ted Lasso season three episode two. I don't want to go to Chelsea. Thank you

[00:02:55] for saying it that way. You're welcome. That was just for you. Yeah, thank you. I requested

[00:02:59] it before we started. We're doing things a little different this episode in that we are

[00:03:05] bringing on a guest first time for Ted Lasso at least. I think we've done it for lost. I can't

[00:03:12] honestly can't remember if we did it. I'm sure we did, but he is somebody who has been listening

[00:03:18] to the podcast religiously lately and been leaving feedback as well. So let's bring on Alex Krueger

[00:03:25] as a guest this week. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. It is an absolute pleasure to be here and I will say

[00:03:33] that the prep for leaving feedback versus the prep for actually guessing on the show to completely

[00:03:37] different animals. Not not for us because our prep is like nothing. Well, I mean sure, sure. Sorry.

[00:03:45] This is a complete total fire from the hip pod. No, it's not really. We actually prep for this podcast.

[00:03:52] I have notes today. I do too. Okay. I have my phone. Oh, so your printout didn't work properly?

[00:04:03] That's small.

[00:04:07] Kristen tried printing her notes before we started. It was like two lines on a page.

[00:04:14] You hate it when that happens. You do. Something bad happened to my printer.

[00:04:20] I like you called me an asshole just because I called out your printer.

[00:04:24] Yeah, it's all right. You think it works?

[00:04:28] Yes. I have. Sometimes by listeners. Anyway, Alex, thank you for coming on. I know you reached out.

[00:04:38] You wanted to be on and you had a specific episode in mind too, which was this one?

[00:04:43] I did. So there are a few characters that are introduced this year and two of the ones that I

[00:04:50] have very strong opinions on are Zava and Shandy who we meet this week. And it's so funny because

[00:04:55] when I started to do my prep, I was very spoiler heavy in my analysis and then realized,

[00:05:01] wait a minute. I have to go back and act as if this is the first time I'm meeting these characters,

[00:05:06] which was really beneficial because it actually changed my opinion a little bit on Shandy

[00:05:12] and what I thought of her character because I looked at her with fresh eyes and having already

[00:05:18] one level of hindsight. Now I have the opportunity to think of a second level of hindsight. So it was

[00:05:24] really cool and a fun experiment to kind of come back and pretend that I erased my memory of

[00:05:30] what comes next. Yeah, and you'll still have an opportunity to do that a little bit too because we

[00:05:34] do have the spoiler section which we will have on this episode. So as I always do, if this is your

[00:05:40] first time viewing Ted Lasso and you want to avoid the spoilers, just check the show notes so you

[00:05:44] can find out when we go when we'll come back from that conversation. So you know where to

[00:05:49] kind of where to skip before we come back with feedback and everything else. But before we get

[00:05:53] into the episode, I want to ask because I don't think I've ever asked you. You've been on Will

[00:05:57] Helm with me before. You have your own podcast now which we'll talk about a little bit later.

[00:06:03] And but when how did you discover us as revisited? Like was it with lost? Was it Ted Lasso?

[00:06:10] Like how did you discover this podcast? So the easiest way is during the pandemic,

[00:06:16] I started watching The Walking Dead for the first time and I was listening to fake doctors real

[00:06:20] friends which was the companion podcast of scrubs from Zach Braff and Donald Faizon. And I was

[00:06:25] like, I'd never listened to podcasts before. I for whatever reason was against it. I don't know.

[00:06:29] I'm silly. So I was like, all right, I kind of want I like these deep dives. I want to hear people

[00:06:35] that do deep dives on The Walking Dead. I popped into Google, you know, best walking dead podcast

[00:06:39] and Jason's came up. So I started listening to that. And then through the years you get through,

[00:06:44] I started to hear you on some of the guest spots as well as Dead City and The Last of Us.

[00:06:51] And you had mentioned that you had a Ted Lasso podcast. I was like, well, I love this show.

[00:06:56] I really like Ben. Let's check it out. I started listening man. It was perfect. It was exactly what

[00:07:02] I'm looking for. And then to find out you did a lost one and to go back and listen to that too.

[00:07:08] My God, you guys are just staples in my ears this year and it's been phenomenal. That's awesome.

[00:07:13] So cool. Yeah, that's a lot of our voice. But yeah, that's cool.

[00:07:17] It is. And I worry that at times today, I'm going to have to remind myself,

[00:07:22] I'm a part of this conversation, not just on the outside of it. So, you know, if you just,

[00:07:27] if you see me just looking all like, oh, I love that. It's just because I have the background access.

[00:07:32] That's all. It'd be so funny. Like if at some point during the conversation of Chris and I are

[00:07:36] talking to each other, just to hear Alex bubbling to himself. Man, I really wish I could tell them what

[00:07:40] I was thinking. Oh, wait, I'm actually on the podcast right now. I'm not listening to it.

[00:07:44] I'm not. There are plenty of times that I'm driving all my way to her from work, especially

[00:07:49] listening to the lost podcast and I'm having the conversation right there with the huge subno idea.

[00:07:53] I do. I do. Yeah, I do actually. Yeah, the first time, first couple of times that I actually

[00:07:58] podcasted with Jason, I was the same way I was like, holy shit, I'm actually doing this.

[00:08:02] I'm actually doing. I'm actually, oh, I have to talk now. I get to talk now. I get to talk

[00:08:07] to you. This is amazing. It's funny. I've seen it from the other side of things where as a

[00:08:12] podcaster for so long, I will be in my car listening to a podcast about a show whether,

[00:08:17] you know, it's about scrubs or parks and rec parks and rec election, which was about parks and rec.

[00:08:22] And I'll be the kind of people where I'll be the kind of person where I'll be sitting on my car and

[00:08:26] be like, what are you fucking crazy? Like that's not what happened. Like, where are you getting this

[00:08:30] bit? Oh, wait, I'm not on the podcast. Yeah, I'm literally just listening to it. There is nothing

[00:08:36] more frustrating than when you hear wrong information listening to a podcast and you know the

[00:08:40] right answer or you hear the podcast are struggling on recalling something. Yeah,

[00:08:43] and you just you wish you could just jump in be like guys. Oh god, our listeners.

[00:08:46] You got to hate us then. Yeah, no, it adds to the fun. It really does add to the fun. Plus,

[00:08:51] when I remember something, but you guys didn't I'm like, all right, cool. Like I can hang.

[00:08:55] I'm good. I'm going to hang. That happens all the time. I know nothing.

[00:08:59] I think like my opinions and I think like, I'll give us like a 90 90% rating. We're like usually we

[00:09:06] eventually remember or correct ourselves if we give wrong information or the number of times

[00:09:14] during the podcast. Yeah. Google has become our friend during the podcast. It's a fourth

[00:09:20] co-host. It's yeah, after Greg. Sorry, Greg, we love you. We got to have Greg on at some point

[00:09:30] too. Yeah, that would be fun. So, but let's dive into the episode as you mentioned season three

[00:09:36] episode two. I don't want to go to Chelsea. I don't want to go to Chelsea.

[00:09:43] Yeah, new characters introduced. We get the start of the season officially and

[00:09:49] we get the same. We get the return of Trent Crim.

[00:09:56] Independent. Yes, independent.

[00:10:00] In this episode and man, like I was so happy to see him sitting in Rebecca's office

[00:10:06] at the start of this episode because it's so weird because as you mentioned, Alex kind of like

[00:10:14] having that hindsight and being able to look at characters differently, like I remember the first

[00:10:18] time watching this episode thinking like, oh shit, what is Trent going to add to this? And especially

[00:10:27] when you see the dynamic of what's going on between him and Roy, you kind of cringe a little but

[00:10:32] you're like, oh, is this a good thing? Is this a bad thing? This can't be a good thing. But now knowing

[00:10:37] what we know about where this is going to go with his character, like I just was immediately smiling

[00:10:45] and happy to see him sitting in that office. Yes. I did not have that same reaction the first time

[00:10:53] I watched it. I was so excited to see him like, just didn't care. Like I was just like, yes,

[00:11:00] Trent Crim is here. But like from the moment I first saw him in the first season, when he's like,

[00:11:04] Trent Crim, the independent, I was like, well, I love you. So I just was so excited because I

[00:11:10] always loved it when he would just pop up in the show. And now they're saying he's going to be a

[00:11:14] part of the team this year. Oh my gosh, it was like, he gets to share an office with Roy at what

[00:11:20] fun. Popping. That scene with him. It's been every time. No, he's Trent. It was amazing.

[00:11:34] The smirk when Trent finally does leave the room. The smirk that crosses over Roy's face is just

[00:11:38] perfect because he did. Yeah. There's a number of times that happens to like even at the end,

[00:11:44] like when during half time, during the Chelsea game, when they're in there, when Trent walks in

[00:11:50] and the entire team goes silent, Roy has that same smirk on his face as in like, yeah,

[00:11:57] like I have control over this right now. Honestly, even when Ted first pulls him into the showers,

[00:12:03] he still has that smirk on before Ted drops the act and like, kind of tells him about himself.

[00:12:08] But one thing that I thought was really important for the Trent Crim character is we've always

[00:12:13] seen him as very prim proper, very intellectual, very high end. I think it was really important for

[00:12:20] his character that we spent this first episode with him on the team in which Roy has brought him

[00:12:25] down a peg and he's not going to be that kind of egotistical shaded person because Roy brought

[00:12:32] him down to the team level like when he comes out of the locker room and the kinks are playing

[00:12:37] and he just has that smirk on his face of like, well, all right, I guess this isn't going to be

[00:12:40] the easiest thing in the world. I think it levels him out a little bit and it levels the playing field

[00:12:45] in a way that we needed to see. Interesting, yeah, I would agree with that.

[00:12:50] I also think that we have a very changed Trent Crim, you know, even from the first episode

[00:12:58] that we see him all the way till right now. Obviously, he's gone through something

[00:13:02] and we find out later what it is but he's gone through something that has made him

[00:13:09] completely different or more authentic. I don't know what it is but he definitely has a

[00:13:14] different air about him in this episode. He's got his head down a little bit, he's very,

[00:13:21] he listens very well and what did he say to Roy? He said like, I was also trying to make a name

[00:13:27] for myself, you know, he was not being who he really is. He was trying to break into his field

[00:13:34] and I think now that he has that established authenticity with his with his profession,

[00:13:41] I think he's coming at this from a different angle like he's trying and he even mentions

[00:13:46] that he is going into a second career and he's trying to talk to Roy on that kind of level where

[00:13:51] he's like, I'm going into a second career. You know, I know that that's hard and he's trying to

[00:13:58] relate to him and Roy's just not having it at that time but I think that he's really trying

[00:14:02] to be vulnerable and we see a very vulnerable and exposed Trent Creme which I really like.

[00:14:08] Well, not only that but this is the first time as you mentioned with the second, you know,

[00:14:12] going into a second career, this is the first time like Trent is taking a risk in his career.

[00:14:17] He's doing something completely different for the past like 30 years because he says in that

[00:14:24] conversation with Roy, he was seven or no, he was he was just starting, Roy was 17 so and he's now

[00:14:31] in his 40s so this has been easily a 20 year career Trent has had he's probably been with the

[00:14:37] independent the entire time and you know, like this is the first time he's doing something without

[00:14:43] the backing of an of the independent. He has had job security for the past 20 years that he let go

[00:14:50] on his own accord it wasn't you know, it was a decision he made that he lost its security.

[00:14:56] He is now a free agent he is taking a risk in his career. So this is new like as you mentioned,

[00:15:02] this is Territory and this is new territory for Trent too. Well and Chris and you alluded to kind

[00:15:07] of what he had said to Roy in response where he was apologizing and one of the things that he pointed

[00:15:11] out is he was looking for the worst in people and I think he was that snarky sportscaster that

[00:15:17] was his role at the independent so for 20 plus years he was always looking for the worst in people

[00:15:23] and I think he is going to have to go through it and maybe he already did but there is that

[00:15:27] metamorphose of changing your thinking so that you're not always looking for the evil you're also

[00:15:32] looking for the good now. And I think we do see a layer side of Trent especially by the end of

[00:15:37] the episode. Absolutely absolutely. And I think that even goes back to season one a little bit too with

[00:15:43] the interview with Trent and Ted in that I think even then Trent was still somebody who kind of tried

[00:15:49] to find the edginess and tried to look for the negative over the positive because it made for a good

[00:15:55] story. And Ted is the one that kind of changed him a little bit. It's the last so effect. Yeah,

[00:16:00] Ted is the one that turned him around. And you know even when he says like when Ted tells him at

[00:16:06] the end of season two like I always respected you. And now he's using that you know new way

[00:16:14] of thinking in writing this book about the team. Well, I think that Ted gives people permission

[00:16:22] to be their authentic selves. He gives Roy permission to be an asshole because he knows that at

[00:16:30] the heart of it Roy is the really good dude. He gives Trent permission to see the best in people

[00:16:37] because Trent sees that Ted. I think that all these people see that Ted is just this self-effacing

[00:16:44] person that wears his flaws like a badge of honor. And you really see that in the last episode

[00:16:52] in the first episode where he's like how I'm so dumb, how dumb are you? You know I'm so crazy

[00:16:58] how crazy are you? And allowing that room to breathe to be flawed especially in such

[00:17:05] a visual what am I thinking of such like a spotlight of a career that that Ted has right now.

[00:17:17] And to be vulnerable, to be exposed, to be human, to be flawed and still succeed gives people

[00:17:25] around him permission to also be the same and it makes them their best selves which is what

[00:17:31] Ted's whole stick is. How can I bring out the best in everybody? No matter who they are and no

[00:17:38] matter what they've done in the past. Well, and that's what I was good, that was actually the next

[00:17:43] point I was going to make too is that Ted is somebody who you know he sees below the surface of people

[00:17:50] and he's very near-sighted in his thinking and I don't mean that in a negative way. He is somebody

[00:17:57] who looks to what have you done lately that makes me think of about the kind of person that you are.

[00:18:03] When Trent is sitting in Rebecca's office in the beginning and Rebecca tells him like he wants

[00:18:09] to write a book about the team, I'm leaving it up to you to make the decision and they're all like no

[00:18:14] no no don't do it. They're thinking we know how Trent has been here for the past 20 years.

[00:18:21] Ted when he agrees to do it is thinking by he's making his decision on what he knows about Trent

[00:18:29] lately. So he is making the decision from a completely different point of view. Well, he's a coach

[00:18:36] he allows people to change he expects people to change. Yes, by the way which of those three

[00:18:42] Musketeers decision was it to let Ted be the final note and what world is Ted saying no to a new

[00:18:47] opportunity especially for Trent Creme if Rebecca really didn't want him there Rebecca you're the

[00:18:52] boss say no. Why leave that up to Ted? That was poor planning and execution. I think they

[00:18:59] really thought Ted was going to say no. Why would he? I know I'm with you. Ted's like a new guy

[00:19:06] sure let's bring him. I can bring my buddy along all right then. Yeah. Well I mean let's do this.

[00:19:13] I don't know. It's funny that you just said barbecue sauce because as we've been watching I've

[00:19:22] been making I don't want to say anyway because it dives into spoilers and I want to mention it.

[00:19:28] It almost makes me think like is this is that decision to let Ted make the final decision?

[00:19:34] Is that part of the regression of Rebecca that? Oh man do I have so many notes on

[00:19:40] this episode? Amen folks. Amen. Wow. You know like is that part of Rebecca's regression a little

[00:19:46] bit is like I won't be the bad guy. I'll let Ted be the bad guy. Well and then you have Keeley who

[00:19:51] is just not on her game at all and you have Higgins who just wants everybody to be happy.

[00:19:58] Yeah you're right. The three Musketeers like they all took their crazy pills that morning they're

[00:20:01] like absolutely. You know what? Ted's got this. Yep. Yeah.

[00:20:06] Also I was Keeley even there. She was supposed to be on the way to a photo to a video shoot.

[00:20:09] I guess I mean it helped with the plot moving forward but it didn't make logistical sense for her to

[00:20:15] be there. I have some notes on the whole key. I have notes on Rebecca too but I also have some

[00:20:19] notes on Keeley for this note. Me too. But you know. It's probably happy we started with Trent

[00:20:24] Krim thank you. Yes. Yes. Get us all in the in the happy vibe. Yeah. But I love the fact that

[00:20:30] you know. And for some reason I thought that's what happens between Trent and Roy was later

[00:20:36] in the season. I didn't think it was this close to the beginning of the season.

[00:20:41] I thought there was like an episode or two with with that dynamic before it's finally squashed

[00:20:46] but I love the fact that and it there's so much that happens between Roy and Trent in this

[00:20:50] episode that makes me not only love Trent but it makes it makes me love Roy more because seeing the

[00:20:58] fact that like he is somebody who was held onto this grudge for as long the fact that he has that

[00:21:04] article in his wallet takes it out makes Trent hold his wallet while he unfolds it and reads it

[00:21:16] and it's almost like after he reads that article in front of Trent there's a there's a release

[00:21:21] in Roy because they're able to converse after it about that article and seeing Roy later

[00:21:30] actually tear that article up and be able to let that go was and then and then even in further

[00:21:37] conversation talking about like I wish I was this kind of person when he talks about what it

[00:21:42] was like to return to Chelsea. I ended up loving Roy I already love Roy but I ended up loving Roy

[00:21:49] so much more in this because Roy has learned a couple things in this episode his level of self-awareness

[00:21:55] I mean you think about who Roy is and the journey he's come from and the fact that

[00:22:00] right at half time when Trent walked in and it completely stopped the flow of information

[00:22:04] and the adjustments that they very much needed to make in the game and Ted noticed it and he called

[00:22:09] Roy into the into the showers Roy didn't question he didn't even begrudgingly go he was just like

[00:22:14] all right I guess we're doing this went in and then when Ted told him you got a squashed it

[00:22:17] no questions asked no issue whatsoever immediately took care of it and all it took was for Trent

[00:22:22] to relate to him just to teensy weaned see a bit and apologize and Roy's like all right cool like

[00:22:28] he he is such an idealized version of male masculinity he's like the Korean Topanga of male

[00:22:35] masculinity like everyone is always looking to get that version of it because he's so self-aware

[00:22:41] he's so strong but also so sensitive yes well yeah he's a he's the kind of feminist that

[00:22:49] women want in a man yes that makes it he's since that makes perfect sense yes and just the fact that

[00:22:57] it's that's recognized by everybody like how everybody comes to Roy's comfort when they find out

[00:23:04] that Roy and Keeley have broken up oh I know you have issues with with with all of it and

[00:23:15] we'll explore it more as the season progresses because this isn't the end of all of that

[00:23:20] all of that but but like Troy like Roy constantly having to defend the fact that he's the one

[00:23:29] that broke it off because when you look at those two I broke up with her that's so middle school right

[00:23:34] right it's so middle school yes yes yeah you know but like you said to like going back to the

[00:23:40] fact that like all Roy needed to see was that him and Trent shared something like whether it's

[00:23:47] like they shared a personality trait about themselves Roy needed to see a little bit of himself

[00:23:52] and Trent in order for him to just be able to let it go but even you know when I don't think Roy had

[00:24:00] any I don't think Roy realized what he was doing to the team until to actually I know he didn't

[00:24:06] realize what he was doing to the team and how his personal vendetta against Trent was holding the

[00:24:13] team back and Ted's the one that kind of calls him out on it and you know does it in such a

[00:24:19] true and such a Ted Lasso way in also explaining what a hallmark movie is perfectly explain it I

[00:24:26] mean nailing it I mean the they kind of suck but they're pretty awesome I mean it kind of suck

[00:24:34] I have the entire quote in my quotes too but just the fact that

[00:24:39] they're good with the sound off I'm like yeah yep that's when I'm decorating the house throw on

[00:24:43] the hallmark you know Christmas movie and deck the halls baby I do love the fact we have a lot of

[00:24:52] season one callbacks in this episode I think and one of them I think is that Roy Kent runs AFC

[00:24:59] Richmond and we need to be reminded of that in the third season because it's just like the first

[00:25:05] season when Ted and Beard show up they know immediately that they have to get Roy to buy in if they're

[00:25:12] going to get the rest of the team to buy in and what does what does Ted say you know oh man he's

[00:25:17] going to be real pissed off when we win him over he'll be furious right I thought immediately of

[00:25:24] that when Trent comes in because Trent he's trying so hard to just kind of like come in and just be a

[00:25:31] part of the scenes and it's very obvious that he is not trusted he is not liked and they're not

[00:25:39] going to allow him in so long as Roy doesn't allow him in and that is how Ted entered AFC Richmond

[00:25:46] and once Roy bought in to Ted to Ted and his style the team started to trust him and I think

[00:25:53] that we're seeing the same thing happen and we're being reminded that Roy runs Richmond Roy Kent

[00:26:01] Roy is Roy is the heart of Richmond I mean that team doesn't beat without Roy I mean and it's

[00:26:08] shows too because all he has to do is tell that team nobody talks to Trent and they're like and it

[00:26:16] even Jamie listened he gets Danny Rojas to say fuck you Trent Krim like Roy Kent was able to accomplish

[00:26:23] that so yeah I think he's got a little bit of sweat a little bit yeah and not only that but like

[00:26:27] it's it's so ingrained in that team just by one sentence like basically all Roy meant was don't

[00:26:35] talk about anything team related around Trent Krim but they are so ingrained that they don't say

[00:26:42] a word like even at half time goes silent when Trent Krim because they're afraid to say anything

[00:26:50] well into your front of Trent Krim to your point from earlier before before

[00:26:56] Roy and Ted shower scene when everyone just gets yeah I said that

[00:27:01] I know I just did the same thing with everyone gets really quiet he has such a proud pop a smirk

[00:27:07] and that's how you're alluding to early he's he's such a such a proud dad of all of his little

[00:27:11] little boys listening to him so well he's like I got that classroom management yeah

[00:27:17] but it's what it is really funny though because he he Roy walks back and he goes all right you

[00:27:22] guys can do it now and they're all like okay back to business like without missing a beat

[00:27:27] yep and I mean he controls that team and we've we knew it in season one and we're reminded of it

[00:27:33] in season three that nothing has really changed there and I think that that's a really good

[00:27:37] reminder because you know as as you guys know we are going to see a lot of callbacks I mean even with

[00:27:43] Roy and Keely breaking up that's reminiscent of Keely and Jamie breaking up and Jamie's about

[00:27:48] to go through a big arc from season one and we're about to see a really big arc from Roy

[00:27:55] um to the end of to the end of the series um you know you've got Ted kind of

[00:28:02] on regressing a little bit you've got Rebecca who is just full fledged season one in this episode

[00:28:10] so I'm really enjoying the season one callbacks yeah I mean and and what I one of the things

[00:28:16] I enjoy about this too is you know when it comes to Jamie we're seeing like obviously

[00:28:23] Keely is not part of the story anymore but I think that really does I think one of the purposes

[00:28:28] of that is we are going to see somebody come into Roy's life who is going to make an impact on Roy

[00:28:34] and that is Jamie you know okay so can we just talk about the fact that

[00:28:40] Jamie Tarte realizes that they've broken up and we think that he's gonna chase after Keely

[00:28:46] and what does he deal he tries to hug Roy he tries to hug Roy he tries to comfort Roy

[00:28:53] and and I love that whole scene with like you came in too fast I forgot how to do it

[00:28:59] the wall oh so I was so afraid I remember this the first time I was like oh great we're doing

[00:29:04] that common you know now Jamie's gonna go after Keely we're gonna have to deal with this crap

[00:29:09] for for six episodes but when he turns and goes into comfort Roy that to me that bromance is so

[00:29:15] much better than any of the romances that could be laid out in that in that trifecta yeah and just

[00:29:20] knowing what comes next between prima dana and bicycles and everything knowing what comes next after

[00:29:26] this moment is is so rewarding and I love it so much and I'm so glad Will was there to see it

[00:29:32] I was just gonna say I love the fact that we're keeping always there we're keeping with the running

[00:29:37] joke we're right after that whole thing plays out you see Jamie turn off camera and he's like and

[00:29:42] don't you say a fucking thing about this will it turns to Will who was in the room I rewinded

[00:29:49] three times just to check every single angle if Jamie ever note there's no reason Jamie would notice

[00:29:55] that Will was there he never turned in that direction add all he closed the door and was facing Roy

[00:29:59] the whole time so he just knew instinctively that Will was there and and then Will dropped such a young

[00:30:05] Higgins line he's clearly the young version of Higgins I I will die on that hill I love Will so much

[00:30:11] well and well and in the Amsterdam episode we really do see that hey man did that yeah and I can't

[00:30:18] wait and it's so funny because we keep doing this for peeding joke which is never not funny about how

[00:30:24] Will is always in the room whenever they have these conversations and it's like well like why

[00:30:28] that's Will's room at his office he's in his office he is the kit man and you are in the equipment

[00:30:36] room like that is his room yeah I just went through a breakup myself like if you guys want to go out

[00:30:42] and get like some shots fierce like we can talk about it and I want to point out I'm pretty

[00:30:50] sure that means that this is the lavender girlfriend that he just broke up with from last season

[00:30:55] the one that convinced him to kind of put the lavender in the detergent and it tells you how

[00:30:59] lovable Will is because we don't know jack about him but when I put the two and two together that

[00:31:03] he and lavender broke up I got a little bit sad I really don't know I was really rooting for those kids

[00:31:08] he's great I love Will yes yeah he's a he's a hair was less offensive this episode I just needed to say

[00:31:17] that it was we need to keep a tally on that it was here last week was ridiculous it was very

[00:31:22] Zachary tie Brian it was it was very very 90s full house yeah so yeah so it's across the tips and

[00:31:30] everything yes so you said that last episode about how much you hated Jamie's hair and so as after

[00:31:36] we recorded and I went back and I went into I go back into the episode the crap to grab like whatever

[00:31:41] clip I'm gonna be using and everything and I grab I was as I was skipping through the episode I got

[00:31:46] to that scene and I'm like holy shit she's right his hair is awful it's awful really bad really

[00:31:52] it was better this episode like it looks like poop it's poop it's just poop it's yeah his hair was

[00:32:00] basically mama it's just poop it well so I have a note about Jamie and Roy's scene I said that

[00:32:11] Jamie's accent with Roy is hilarious now because I know that he was trying to be as ridiculous as

[00:32:16] possible to make uh Brett Goldstein break because you could tell when he's in those scenes with just him

[00:32:22] and Brett Goldstein he he lays on that accent way thicker than he does in any other scene he doesn't

[00:32:32] finish his words no I mean and when you watch interviews with Phil Dunster like that accent is not

[00:32:37] that thick um and yeah it's funny to watch these scenes now too and it makes me really really hope at

[00:32:45] some point they released Ted Lasso gag reels oh man this needs to be dynamite what haven't they

[00:32:52] I don't know I don't know but they need more popular than the show there is very good chance of that

[00:33:00] maybe well but I mean look how long it took friends to release gag reels I mean it was a number of

[00:33:05] years after a season that they released it wasn't until like the DVD release that they put the

[00:33:10] gag reels on there oh I didn't so maybe it's maybe we'll get them eventually and we'll see but I don't

[00:33:19] know but yeah it's fun to now knowing how much like Phil Dunster tried to make Brett Goldstein break

[00:33:24] you right it's it's one watching certain scenes now because you can kind of see it right

[00:33:28] and let Brett Gold that's fantastic um now did either of you at any point think when Jamie did go

[00:33:36] into the kit room he was going to ask Roy's permission did that cross your mind at all oh yeah

[00:33:41] 100 okay all right all right and then do you believe him that he truly was just trying to check on Roy

[00:33:47] yes okay all right cool because he's evolved he's he's he is so into being the best soccer football

[00:33:56] player that he could possibly be hey look I said football without even thinking about it

[00:34:01] bookwork yeah I can't I'm not there yet obviously um but he's so focused on that and he's

[00:34:07] so focused on having this good relationship with one of his coaches that I think that keely being

[00:34:14] single for Jamie's benefit didn't even cross his mind yet right well and yeah and that's

[00:34:23] and that's the thing too like kind of answer your question is in like upon rewatch this like even

[00:34:28] upon the rewatch I kind of blocked it out knowing what's coming but like when he walks in there

[00:34:35] my immediate thought was like oh he sees this as an opportunity to pounce like I didn't even see

[00:34:40] it is he's gonna ask permission I'm like the I my mind immediately went to old Jamie's and like he's

[00:34:46] just going to pounce now that he knows and then when he goes to comfort Roy instead I'm like oh yeah

[00:34:53] like I like this is a different Jamie like why didn't I even realize why was I even worried

[00:34:58] because we still think that Jamie of old is back there yeah guys like him are very likely to slip

[00:35:09] back into into bad habits so and I think that's also a part of the last effect having that positive

[00:35:15] influence that positive role model around keeps him in check and keeps him evolving and make sure

[00:35:21] that he doesn't backspot slide or or undergo any revertigo now the keelies you know single so

[00:35:27] vertigo I'll tell you what it we'll get to it but keelies revertigo this week was ridiculous when

[00:35:33] she was with shandy we'll get that I'm sure yeah and I do have some notes like I said too but

[00:35:37] going back real quick to you know Jamie in this in this moment this is one of those moments where

[00:35:44] I think you're like this show is the prime example of how much Jamie has evolved and that he even

[00:35:51] tells Roy like hey don't forget I've been there I've been dumped by Jamie or I've been dumped by

[00:35:56] keelie he sees this not as an opportunity to pounce back to keelie he sees this as an opportunity

[00:36:04] to connect with Roy to provide empathy because he well because I think I think Jamie is striving to

[00:36:13] find a connect a way to connect more with Roy and he sees the opportunity and the fact that he sees

[00:36:19] that more than he sees any opportunity with keelie speaks volumes about how far Jamie has come 100%

[00:36:28] yeah well he's also got really healthy confidence right now so you know season one he had very unhealthy

[00:36:34] confidence very me oriented nowadays he does have that that confidence of like no I am a leader I

[00:36:40] am good at this I can do this with other guys and he contains and keeps that confidence until you

[00:36:46] know the last 45 seconds of the episode I was just going to say his kit is going from blue to green

[00:36:54] by the end of this episode sure is well I think that we need to talk about this in spoilers

[00:37:02] okay well yeah that element of it yes but yeah no because I'm sorry I was about to say something

[00:37:09] got that okay that was all me that was not you gentlemen all that was me saying I was about to say

[00:37:14] something but no but I think that kind of is a good opportunity to talk about Zava because Zava

[00:37:21] is a new character that we do get for some period in this season I don't want to say how much

[00:37:29] because that kind of dives in the spoilers but yeah we're seeing everybody is excited about Zava

[00:37:35] everybody is trying to get Zava and by the end of the episode Richmond gets him

[00:37:42] everybody is excited about Zava with the exception of one person and that's Jamie

[00:37:48] and again like you can kind of see the little bit of indication that maybe there's a little bit of

[00:37:55] not I may be a combination of jealousy mixed with some insecurity

[00:38:00] because up until this point Jamie has considered himself top dog on the team he has meshed in with

[00:38:07] the team well like he has a great rapport with the team again and now he sees somebody that could

[00:38:12] potentially change the dynamic of what is happening yeah and I wouldn't be surprised if you know

[00:38:19] while Higgins is going through his history and we're talking about who he's a bit of a clubhouse

[00:38:24] cancer he's the type of guy that comes in and burns the place and then leaves so maybe Jamie doesn't

[00:38:29] want the dynamic of the clubhouse to change especially the fact that everyone is just

[00:38:33] drooling all over themselves about the idea of Zava I mean do you guys know who Zava's inspiration

[00:38:39] is in the real world Ronaldo no it's there's lots on Ibrahimovic so he was a very

[00:38:45] big that is that is crazy name it is yes so he was a ridiculously gifted striker but had the same

[00:38:53] kind of transfer history came out to play for the LA galaxy didn't last long he got a billboard that

[00:38:59] dear LA you're welcome so he's that kind of of arrogant guy yes he's kind of like Aaron Rodgers mixed

[00:39:04] with Jared leto right both very very look at me and very very I'm better than you but also very

[00:39:12] a loop amen sister amen so knowing like knowing who his inspiration was the first time I saw him I'm

[00:39:21] there's no way this is gonna add well and just everything about him I such a douche just the way

[00:39:28] carries himself and and everything and I can understand why Jamie doesn't want to add that to such a

[00:39:34] good fun communal locker room yeah well just the fact too that he like Jamie used to be the

[00:39:42] cancer to the team he knows exactly what somebody like Zava can do to a gelled team and Jamie

[00:39:50] has worked very very hard to be a team player to come up with this team he knows how special

[00:39:59] this team is and to throw somebody in just a stick it to Rupert because let's be honest that's all

[00:40:06] it is at this point is really dangerous when you're coming back into the premier league after

[00:40:12] being relegated for a season yep yeah and I can like just going back to the point of how like

[00:40:21] the kind of person that Zava is just the fact that he decides to make the decision to go to Richmond

[00:40:28] instead of sign with Chelsea the fact that he does that during the press conference when

[00:40:34] the eyes are all on him that's a like Braun move right there yeah that's he that's somebody who

[00:40:40] could have just been like no we're not going to do this press conference because I'm not signing with

[00:40:43] Chelsea the fact that he did it during the press conference where he was supposed to sign

[00:40:48] shows the kind of person Zava is you mean like if you have a press conference in Connecticut with

[00:40:54] a bunch of boys and curls club kids from Cleveland and you say I'm gonna take my talents to South Beach

[00:40:59] you mean kind of like that yeah not one not to not there well only two well look at I mean

[00:41:06] and we're seeing a lot of different like actual sports references happening throughout this show

[00:41:11] we got you know as you mentioned the the player that Zava is based on Kristen you just made the

[00:41:18] comparison to the Kobe to the LeBron not Kobe sorry I take that back I'm not gonna mess with

[00:41:24] that to the LeBron press conference Kobe never let the lakers never even don't remember and even

[00:41:30] going back to season one the Allen Iverson reference with Jamie when you know when Ted is calling

[00:41:36] him out about practice just talk about practice practice talk about practice we see a lot of

[00:41:42] reflection in actual sports you know happen throughout this show yeah yeah so I don't know football

[00:41:52] very well and I take it that Alex you are a big fan wait football soccer football NFL football soccer

[00:41:59] no I begrudgingly watched it for a few years and I just I never understood it but I know some stuff

[00:42:04] okay all right so what are your other feelings on Zava um you know soccer isn't one of those sports

[00:42:12] where one player can completely take over does take a team buy in um so that whole idea is stupid

[00:42:19] they don't have the money to sign him that's completely irresponsible um and again I am a big

[00:42:25] locker room vibes guy like the the fillies they are the team of vibes right now they have guys that

[00:42:31] totally get along and and that matters and that is the type of thing that can give your really good

[00:42:37] players an X factor that can lead them up so by by dispatching us of into the mix it ruins everything

[00:42:44] you can see right away that that is not going to be a good fit it's truly just an ego move by

[00:42:50] Rebecca to bring him in and everyone else has these really rose colored glasses I mean Danny is

[00:42:56] is borderline obsessed with Zava and how can you not see how that's gonna have a detriment to the team

[00:43:02] aspect of the team when this is the Richmond way the Lasso effect is all about team and Zlatan

[00:43:09] Zava is all about the me and and he doesn't care about anyone else he's gonna do what he's gonna

[00:43:14] do he changes mine from Chelsea to West Ham to Richmond all in about a matter of 25 seconds while

[00:43:22] standing on the day as for Chelsea like come on that that tells you everything you need to know

[00:43:28] and he eats too much asparagus I have notes on that seat well new Rebecca should have seen that

[00:43:36] new Rebecca should have seen that and new Rebecca let old Rebecca take over her brain

[00:43:42] in this episode and in this decision and it just sucks to watch because you know how much growth

[00:43:50] she's made and you just feel like everything is going on the on a good path for this team

[00:43:57] and this club and Rebecca and Ted and everybody and then Rebecca pulls a move that just it doesn't work

[00:44:06] and she has nobody telling her to know to not do it like there's not one person that is saying

[00:44:15] wait wait a minute why are we making decisions based on your ex-husband again

[00:44:20] and I think that's because it's Zava I think if it was some you know really good but but not quite

[00:44:26] legendary player people would but even Roy can't like you know what do you think Roy

[00:44:31] is Zava he's nuts but will win so even Roy's you know someone that's been in the league long enough

[00:44:35] someone that I'm sure has heard the horror stories of Zava is still even like yeah I mean if we want

[00:44:40] to win that's a pretty good signing right there that that's adding Bryce Harper to your team you know

[00:44:44] that's that's giving you that next level all time reference for the way yeah you do yeah that next

[00:44:49] level all-time athlete joins your team and you're like okay now we can do something about this so

[00:44:55] I understand why Higgins and everyone didn't see through the muck and mire to see what it really

[00:45:01] meant and because Ted God love him still is not learned enough about the sport that he coaches

[00:45:07] professionally and gets paid to do that he doesn't pick up on on how detrimental that'll be so

[00:45:12] it it just sucks that no one's there you're right no one's there to advise Rebecca this is a terrible

[00:45:16] decision well I think the interesting thing to note too is the fact that even though everybody is seeing

[00:45:21] Zava through these rose colored glasses the one person who who is just as blind as everybody else

[00:45:27] is beard like here it is just as excited about getting Zava as everybody else and she's the one who's

[00:45:32] pretty to that scream that gets let out a couple times when he finds out that Roy and Keely break

[00:45:38] I've broken up he lets it out when they got Zava it lets out but he is he's usually somebody who's

[00:45:45] pretty in tune about this this sport yeah and like he knows clearly who Zava is but even he's

[00:45:52] kind of blinded by everything well and I think that that is a really and I think that that goes to show

[00:45:58] I guess what to to both of your points about how important Zava was or is because while

[00:46:06] Ted is always a near-sided coach and he's looking at the players and he's looking at how to evolve

[00:46:11] them beards the big picture football guy he's he's the guy that sees everything he sees the team

[00:46:19] he sees what they need and even he's being obtuse about this decision yep so I don't know I

[00:46:30] hate Zava but I know that we're supposed to so it works but he's so pointless he's such a pointless

[00:46:35] character and and we can get I don't want to spoil but what's the point I don't know I'm

[00:46:42] growing gross from his presence I mean even what happens with our favorite bro man I feel like

[00:46:48] that would have naturally happened anyways I don't think we needed Zava to be that catalyst so

[00:46:55] that's interesting maybe there's something there I don't want to say it now I'll save it for

[00:47:00] spoilers I'll make a note of it to bring it up but you just said like I don't see what the point

[00:47:05] of Zava is excuse me have a tickle on my throat um I have I think there is a point to Zava

[00:47:13] okay I don't want to say what it is right now I'll save it for spoilers all right um but going

[00:47:19] back to you know kind of using this now to transition into Rebecca and the way Rebecca has been

[00:47:25] this episode at see I kind of looked at things a little bit differently like I'm kind of conflicted

[00:47:30] about Rebecca now because I think I think that move with her in the restroom with Zava where she says

[00:47:37] you don't have it you know you don't have it you could go like you know you're not gonna be the best

[00:47:43] if you like you you know by going to Chelsea you're going to West Ham I think that is a major power

[00:47:50] move and I think that helps Rebecca a little bit kind of shake being under Rupert again like she

[00:47:59] she's gotten a one up on Rupert now she's won against Rupert and I think this is a start towards

[00:48:06] I see this as a little bit of getting a start towards getting the old Rebecca back

[00:48:12] because her confidence has been shaken by Rupert buying West Ham so for her to step in there

[00:48:18] and make this power move and see it work I think she's now back on the road of becoming old Rebecca

[00:48:24] again because she's she's gotten her confidence back by doing this I I agree with that so and

[00:48:31] Kristen by the that grown I imagine you're not in the same boat okay so let me let me go on

[00:48:39] the on the bend side of debate in that that's okay I think the the moment the crux of it all to

[00:48:45] that led to the bathroom scene was when Rebecca gave Rupert a meep all down the middle and he

[00:48:51] crushed it over the fence when she said oh I thought Richmond was your first love first off

[00:48:57] what a terrible thing to say to a guy like Rupert because you know the next thing out of his

[00:49:00] mouth is gonna be I guess I'm like every other guy and I get tired of the same old same old which

[00:49:05] first off not like every other guy you do not speak for me Rupert get off of that second off how are

[00:49:10] you gonna how are you gonna set them up so perfectly to to remind you you were once his first love

[00:49:15] and he just threw you to the side as well and I think in that moment she had a decision in her mind

[00:49:21] of am I gonna let him maintain this real estate that he has had in my head since the moment he

[00:49:26] stole Nate and grab West Ham or am I gonna take the bull by the horns and go after what I want if

[00:49:30] it works it works if it doesn't it doesn't but I'm gonna shoot my shot and then she chooses

[00:49:35] to not be under his spell anymore she goes in and she goes after Zava not even thinking it's gonna

[00:49:40] work I mean she didn't exactly sweet talk him she saw her yelled him and she was doing that

[00:49:46] to show to herself even that she was not going to be under Rupert's spell because up until that

[00:49:50] moment Rupert was the one that owned her brain and and and her mind he had taken up all of her

[00:49:55] real estate and in that moment she decided enough was enough yeah I think at that point for Becca

[00:50:00] feels like she has nothing left to lose Zava's already on his way to either West Ham or Chelsea so

[00:50:08] what's the harm in doing this and speaking my mind because the harm is hurting her already

[00:50:14] stellar team she did not have the trust in her team that she should have had that team got them back

[00:50:21] into the Premier League well this is also got them back into the Premier League well this is why I

[00:50:26] said I was conflicted because I do see it from that side but I guess my whole point is is that she

[00:50:31] got too caught up in what is Rupert doing and how do I win Rupert which is season one Rebecca right

[00:50:42] that I mean she left the owner's box during the game she left when the when their team scored

[00:50:50] you know when Danny Rohaw scores with his face she wasn't there she was in the bathroom

[00:50:56] yelling at Zava and trying to get one over on Rupert that is to me that shows that she in this

[00:51:03] instance in this Zava instance she doesn't care about the team she cares about winning over Rupert

[00:51:09] and I just don't I just don't think that that is healthy well and that's the thing like when you look

[00:51:16] at the whole overarching thing with Rebecca and Rupert it's you know at the beginning of this story

[00:51:23] they were both sitting at the chess table and they were both playing this game Rebecca at one point

[00:51:28] realizes she doesn't want to play him play anymore and get up Rupert never got up from the table

[00:51:34] and he has coaxed her back into playing the game again and now she's back playing this game again

[00:51:40] and it's a spot that she doesn't need to be in and I think wow like I said this is the reason why

[00:51:48] I was conflicted on it because I do see at this moment as Rebecca gaining her confidence back

[00:51:53] but it is also at the cost of losing confidence in her own team well and that's the confidence

[00:52:00] shifted she has not fought this through now there's going to be a new presence in the locker room

[00:52:07] that is known for being a cancer that is known for not playing well with others in a team that

[00:52:15] has been built on playing well with others what does anybody expect to happen here

[00:52:23] well and I think I think it's also a mix of it's it's part of that rose colored glasses thing again

[00:52:29] it's everybody sees Zava with these road colored rose colored glasses including

[00:52:35] Rebecca Higgins well that's not and that's also not realized too that Rebecca or that Higgins

[00:52:41] and Keeley are also high on Zava which I'm sure has an influence on Rebecca

[00:52:49] I could see that I could definitely see that and again to your point Kristen no one steering

[00:52:53] her away from it so why not she's got yes men around her right now and she used to have

[00:52:59] I mean I don't know I don't know it's just a change because I feel like

[00:53:04] when they were when they were bumped down to the what was it called champion champion champions

[00:53:14] like you know it was a whole it was more of a team effort like they had nothing to lose because

[00:53:20] they weren't in the Premier League so they were like how do we rebuild and they learned to work

[00:53:23] together and they became this awesome team and and it's you know it's what every sports team

[00:53:29] makes mistakes with or what any team in general whether it sports or not you know they're like oh well

[00:53:34] we made it so now we have to do what everybody else is doing we have to keep up with what they're

[00:53:39] doing and it's like you need to keep doing what got you here there's a reason why you're here

[00:53:44] like if it ain't broke don't fix it well let's also like going back to the beginning of this

[00:53:49] episode two and that's something I just remembered because I do have it in my notes and it is I

[00:53:52] think it is very key to this whole point is when the news of Zava breaks that Zava is coming to

[00:53:58] the Premier League because he wants to play in the UK Rebecca has no interest in Zava until

[00:54:05] West Ham is mentioned and then she's like well I think it'd be a great idea if we could get let's

[00:54:09] see if we can bring him that bring him the Richmond so it is at the beginning of this episode it

[00:54:14] is something that is very key in the decision is that Rupert is interested because she doesn't hear

[00:54:21] West Ham she hears Rupert yep right but it is also interesting too and it'll be interesting to

[00:54:28] follow later on the one person in that moment who calls out Rebecca on that is Trent sure is yes

[00:54:38] but then he says he loves it well he's he likes it's another yes man moment yeah yeah

[00:54:44] also you know who doesn't love a petty move and also you bring in a guy like that that's

[00:54:49] so to use your Lebron example you bring in a guy that's going to come in and demand the roster be

[00:54:53] reshaped the way that he wants and damn the future draft picks to the side he wants to write that

[00:54:57] story that sounds great it essentially would become a story of how one player can self-destruct an

[00:55:03] entire team in record time right yeah yeah and and Jamie Jamie was in line to do that at the start

[00:55:13] of season two last year or last season but look what happened right I mean Jamie Jamie bought into

[00:55:22] to the Lasso way so you know we know what's going to happen but for those who don't know what's

[00:55:29] going to happen you know buckle up I guess we'll talk about it in spoilers yeah but it's one of

[00:55:35] the other things too I want to make mention of is that I think it's also interesting to note that

[00:55:39] with all of this talk about Zava potentially joining Richmond what team is going to get him how

[00:55:45] great of a player it is it's also keen to note that during the Chelsea game Jamie makes the pass

[00:55:51] again yes Sam yes which Sam kicks hits the post bounces off Danny's face and into the goal Jamie

[00:55:59] it was they're still showing that Jamie is that team player right he's still as good as he ever was

[00:56:06] but now he's the team player I love his disgust when Danny was was gushing over do you think Zava

[00:56:13] saw it as a come on man yeah bro yeah yeah like he was so excited about celebrating the goal and then

[00:56:19] Danny ruined it yep which Danny doesn't ruin stuff so I mean that was probably surprising no but

[00:56:25] it is funny to note too that you know Ted has made mention in the beginning of this episode about

[00:56:30] making like 11-11 is his make a wish time yeah and then he goes into the locker room and

[00:56:36] he mentions signing Zava and Danny's like I just wished for this 30 seconds ago so Danny also does

[00:56:42] 11-11 wish time absolutely which I thought was such a great little thing that's too it plays

[00:56:48] into his total happiness of the character I love Danny Rojas um Trent Cram got an office immediately

[00:56:56] something chickens can't seem to do so true so true but he is sitting at Nate's old seat yep um

[00:57:05] and he's in the locker room which is where he should be because it's also it's also keen

[00:57:10] to notice too that when Trent walks into the locker room before him and Roy squash everything

[00:57:17] every time we see Trent he is on the outskirts he's on the opposite side of the locker room

[00:57:22] but once him and Roy squash where is Trent standing he's with the coaches um he's standing side

[00:57:30] by side with Ted and Beard and he has now he has been brought in after that squash with Roy

[00:57:37] gotta win over Roy first yep I've got to do it yeah he is he is standing up front with the coaches

[00:57:44] he has the coaches view of the team just like the coaches do yeah except for yeah but during the

[00:57:51] game he was in the press box which does he ever move to the owner's box oh yes he no he's

[00:57:59] no he goes down to the benches okay okay okay I mean that's that's a little bit of a spoiler

[00:58:06] but it doesn't really spoil much in that future episodes he's sitting with the team okay perfect

[00:58:12] yeah because I remember him in the press box he looked so uncomfortable oh yeah oh yeah

[00:58:18] you know kind of like I don't know where he's used to right he's still press but he's not the normal

[00:58:24] type of press so and he probably may not want to answer questions from former colleagues or

[00:58:28] or other journals from the field yeah I felt bad he's not like doing what he's supposed to do he's

[00:58:35] still an outsider you know like if he's gonna write a book about the team he's gotta be with the

[00:58:38] team but in this case he's still new and he probably went up to the press box just because he was

[00:58:44] like I don't know where else to go exactly yeah you know so it that was interesting to me was that

[00:58:51] he's just awkwardly walking back there it's like hey hey oh hey you know yeah but no later on in

[00:58:58] the season he does eventually start sitting with the team down on the pitch which I mean if you're

[00:59:03] writing a book about the team that's the place you need to be is you are you are with the team

[00:59:11] um that which is one of the reasons why like I know you and I Kristen I know I think Alex

[00:59:15] are the same way like it's we're so excited to dive into this whole trend crimst story for season

[00:59:20] 30 because there's so much great stuff that comes out of it it has a trajectory I never anticipated

[00:59:26] when the season started but it's one of my favorite trajectories of the entire series it is some

[00:59:33] of the best best acting and writing and it's fun and it's my favorite character he he's in my top

[00:59:40] three he's absolutely in my top three but he becomes so ingrained in the team as the season progresses

[00:59:45] that honestly by the front by the finale I forgot he was writing a book yeah he was just a part of

[00:59:52] the team he was he's a part of the team mm-hmm yeah like he's just there with the team like you don't see

[00:59:58] a you see Richmond without Trent crimp yeah yeah um so maybe this is a good time to kind of maybe

[01:00:05] switch gear I mean unless anybody else has anything else to talk about with Rebecca

[01:00:09] I um I guess I do have one what did you guys think of the quote unquote meet cute story between

[01:00:15] her and Rupert and kind of the Rupert oh I did have that in my notes too um I was just curious as to

[01:00:20] because god he's such a slimy slimy sleasball he really is the worst but you can see oh mega wish

[01:00:31] sorry it's 11-11 at the time of recording but you can you can absolutely see how he was able to

[01:00:38] to wear down her defenses and everything and I just uh you feel bad for Rebecca a little bit

[01:00:45] it's that kind of yeah I mean I could see it like how at the time she saw it but yeah seeing it from

[01:00:52] an outsider's perspective it's nothing I don't know how to describe it okay so I have been in this

[01:01:01] relationship before not with rich man Rupert or anything like that but I have been in me

[01:01:07] I feel like the most important woman in the room and then I'm slowly broken down and isolated

[01:01:12] into nothing and then he leaves me in the dust that I have been through I've been through that

[01:01:17] with my dad and I've been that through that with a past relationship and I gotta tell you I just

[01:01:26] I see weakness in Rebecca because she keeps going back and falling for playing into this old trope

[01:01:32] that she knows is not good for her that she knows is not going to do anything good for her listen

[01:01:38] I can call my dad right now and pick things back up but it's gonna end the same way so why you know

[01:01:46] and and I feel like nothing except hurt me in the end I guess and I'm very surprised that Rebecca

[01:01:55] falls back into this trap at the beginning of the season because of all the positive works she did

[01:02:00] right she did not take her mother's advice last season of kill him with kindness kill him with

[01:02:05] kindness and it's the most infuriating thing you can do so what does she say she makes a dig of

[01:02:11] you know his one true love and it's exactly what he wants because it gives him a chance to

[01:02:15] backhand her metaphorically all over again and it's just I thought she'd gotten past this in her

[01:02:20] character development so it really is disappointing to see her backsliding into this again you're right

[01:02:26] because it's so obvious what Rupert is doing Rupert comes in with the game that Richmond is at Chelsea

[01:02:33] so he knows that she's going to be there he's doing this just to get at her he bought the team to get

[01:02:40] to her because him showing up to her father's funeral didn't do it with with the new baby and the

[01:02:46] new wife so he got Nate and he stole Nate away and then after he stole Nate away he bought West

[01:02:53] Ham or it happened at the same time whatever but it's it just he reacted to her kindness in such a

[01:03:02] childish way and then she falls right back into the trap as well so it's just it's disappointing like

[01:03:09] you said Alex is so disappointing I know I know we have issues in as fans of the show and as fans

[01:03:16] of Rebecca in this regression that Rebecca is making but from a story point of view I don't think

[01:03:22] the show would have been as interesting if going forward into this season we still had the same

[01:03:30] the same great characters that we had in season two like we needed a little bit of regression

[01:03:36] story wise because we needed challenges for challenges for these characters to face as fans

[01:03:42] of these characters yes it's heartbreaking to see them make them but from a writer's perspective I

[01:03:47] see exactly why they're doing all of these and see I can forgive that and I can see what where

[01:03:52] you're coming from with that what I cannot forgive is the trash that they did to Keeley's character

[01:04:00] thank you because why is it that the two people that have the backsliding character development

[01:04:06] are the two strong women on the show why why is it you know thank god Roy and Jamie don't have any

[01:04:12] backsliding character but why is it Rebecca and Keeley and yeah let's get into the Keeley debate

[01:04:16] because I fired out so I have an interesting thought about Keeley and I got I had this from the

[01:04:21] interesting I had this from the beginning of the episode when we will obviously like we met

[01:04:26] Barbara in the in the season premiere we get more of Barbara this episode but now we have Shandy

[01:04:31] coming into play and we get to meet the team that Keeley is working with kind of sort of

[01:04:37] um and it's it's an interesting question I asked myself and I'm I don't know the I honestly

[01:04:45] don't know the answer to it I have to monitor it as we progress further into this season

[01:04:50] and the question is and I'll be interested to know what your thoughts are on this by giving

[01:04:56] Keeley the financial backing to do what she's doing was Keeley set up to fail absolutely yes

[01:05:07] she was not ready to be a boss of a team of a staff of people let alone to be making decisions with

[01:05:13] someone else's money to that extent she did not have the training and by the time but well and I

[01:05:19] want to preface this by saying that I don't mean from the writer's perspective I mean from in

[01:05:26] within the show the investor's perspective was Keeley set up to face yes okay because that's how

[01:05:35] I see it now too especially when we meet this team of people who are incredibly unenthusiastic

[01:05:41] they don't talk to each other they're very stiff and uptight like who why would you give somebody

[01:05:47] like Keeley this team unless you were intentionally trying to like make her fail that's a conversation

[01:05:55] for spoilers for sure so ask me that question when we're in spoilers again because yeah because

[01:06:01] I think that yeah because I don't want to say anything more on on that specific question

[01:06:06] October and spoilers but um you know I just I don't understand what they've done with Keeley's

[01:06:14] character I think it's just awful I think it's awful and it is it and I have it in my notes the

[01:06:22] the Keeley first of all the Keeley and Roy break up is a was a terrible idea and then Keeley actually

[01:06:28] like being removed from the team and put into this separate storyline that who gives a fuck I

[01:06:36] mean honestly I just don't care every character is unlikable shandy is unlikable barbers unlikable

[01:06:43] the team is unlikable shit Keeley's unlikable when she's in that room it does nothing for the

[01:06:49] season except infuriate everybody I don't understand why we did this there was nothing

[01:06:58] like Keeley's character could have been grown and evolved in such a different way than this

[01:07:07] and I just um I don't know I have so many problems with this with this particular storyline it makes

[01:07:13] me absolutely crazy and we're so and we're in the beginning stages of it too so there's honestly

[01:07:19] not even a lot we can say yet at this point without diving too far in dispoilers like even even to talk

[01:07:26] about it doing spoilers in the podcast like it would take too long and too much so we kind of have

[01:07:32] to hold back on it a little bit until we get a little further into this story because there's also

[01:07:37] a lot about the story I don't remember yeah I need to be reminded of before I can really form that

[01:07:43] opinion but I do from what I do remember I do remember not liking this this path for Keeley and

[01:07:52] like I said to is she that bringing that question to mind it has Keeley been set up the fail well

[01:07:59] let's let's look at where it's coming from okay she's a boss but she's not the boss obviously

[01:08:05] she did not hire these people they came in Barbara hired these people she did not hand select Barbara

[01:08:10] the venture capitalist gave her Barbara so the only thing that's hers is the name and the ideas

[01:08:16] of what's going to happen and the big office and the big office with the ridiculously CGE

[01:08:22] background yes and and you know she's set up to fail so I work in an office space every day

[01:08:28] Monday through Friday 9 to 5 I recently like over the last five years of work myself into a promotion

[01:08:32] of leadership and it is such a difference between running a program and running people and she has no

[01:08:40] experience running a staff and that's not her fault but no one gave her leadership training no

[01:08:48] is there to truly mentor her because to your point she's been taken out of that mentor space she's

[01:08:53] been taken out of that mentor space plopped on her own Barbara's damn sure not going to be stepped

[01:08:58] walking her through anything she's not going to show her anything and then honestly to get into the

[01:09:03] next point the worst thing that Keeley could have done is take on a mentee which is what she does

[01:09:10] with Shandy because she has no ability whatsoever right now to be both a boss and a mentor and

[01:09:18] say for spoilers you see how that ends up going and it's just it's malpractice well maybe even there's

[01:09:24] there's something to say too about because by the end of season two we see Rebecca's regression start

[01:09:31] with everything with Rupert buying West Ham and such so maybe that regression is also partly

[01:09:36] default for Keeley being in this position because Rebecca maybe she Rebecca let Keeley go too early

[01:09:44] she didn't see that Rebecca was ready or she did Rebecca didn't see that Keeley was she thought

[01:09:49] Keeley was ready she didn't see that she wasn't and maybe that's because she was blinded by her

[01:09:54] own regression so maybe there's a point to make that even Rebecca's a little bit of fault for this too

[01:09:58] which when you look at it and letting her go man doesn't that just mere Ted Nate last season

[01:10:03] I mean it's it's very very similar you bring someone up and then you think they've made it you

[01:10:09] think they're ready so you start ignoring them and they fall flat on their face thank god Keeley's

[01:10:13] not Nate but it's it's mentor malpractice again and that's and I did also make another as we were

[01:10:21] talking about this this is not in my notes I literally just thought of this there is another mirroring

[01:10:25] in this episode and that is Barbara and Zava they are two people who are constantly hopping from

[01:10:35] place to place to place the place because look at all the snow globes Barbara has and she says

[01:10:40] she buys when every time the company sends her to a different place Barbara is not that old

[01:10:45] to have gone to all of those places unless she is going to multiple places every I think that says

[01:10:52] more about her Barbara's boss yeah yeah Barbara yes who we all meet who will meet the boss later

[01:11:02] yes but I think that that says more about Barbara's boss before we just move on I just want to say

[01:11:08] did you notice the front and center snow globe it's in my spoilers yes yes yes yes yes yes

[01:11:13] making sure yeah there's a big ol highlight on that because I was really excited

[01:11:18] yeah there's there's a lot of hints being dropped um about that but it's uh I don't know if I see

[01:11:24] it that way because in what we know about Barbara we see hers that she is very abrupt she's very

[01:11:31] brash um very strict to the rules and you know like I kind of saw it as in like she goes to a lot of

[01:11:40] these places because she just isn't liked so they move her around which also could have because

[01:11:48] of that could also be because of her bosses you know but she like the fact like she gives key

[01:11:54] she gives keyle here's the company card don't use it right because she doesn't trust her she sees

[01:11:59] her as a kid in a candy store because that's because Barbara and and Barbara is holding the reins

[01:12:04] of that company yes and she knows well you think about she keely I imagine doesn't really have

[01:12:10] the authority to hire anyone because she doesn't make the financial decisions and yet she hired someone

[01:12:15] and that person had a very good idea 100 percent I think Shandhi's idea at the photo shoot or

[01:12:22] not photoshoot the commercial was really good um but Barbara's right keely didn't think that one

[01:12:26] through at all she offered her position without a title she had no idea where her real qualifications were

[01:12:32] and you know when keely goes into Barbara's office and kind of dresses her down for how she handled

[01:12:36] the situation I didn't think Barbara was out of line at all with how she handled Shandhi

[01:12:43] I didn't either I think what was out of line was how she talked to keely about it in front of Shandhi

[01:12:47] I thought that was inappropriate but I had no problem with what she said Shandhi at all

[01:12:52] you know it's you know it's so funny about Shandhi as a character is the one thing I do remember

[01:12:58] about season three is how much I hate that character yes and it was hard to forget

[01:13:04] that when I met her yes this episode so you mentioned that idea she has during the photo shoot

[01:13:11] I don't even remember what it was because I ignored Shandhi this entire episode well they so

[01:13:15] you know Barbara said don't go into overtime or else we have to pay for it the directors wanted

[01:13:19] her to scrounge up 100 extras and she knew that would put them into overtime so Shandhi comes up with

[01:13:24] the idea of let's just put a strobe effect in post and have people cross close in front of the

[01:13:28] cameras that way it feels busy so she really saved keely's ass in that moment and she has potential

[01:13:33] but again because keely's not really mentoring her she doesn't have a chance to grow which is what we see

[01:13:41] through that storyline and I think if Shandhi had proper tutelage she would have had a chance

[01:13:47] just like keely had proper tutelage from Rebecca when she first got out of the wag status

[01:13:51] because Rebecca was ready yeah absolutely I completely agree with that you know

[01:13:58] the problem with the whole the problem with the whole keely subplot in season three is that

[01:14:06] it is mostly unlikeable characters that are surrounding her which makes her unlikable

[01:14:12] and so anytime they cut over to what is happening with keely you're just I don't know it like for

[01:14:19] me it's such a heartwarming show and then we go over to keely what is it KGPR KJPR and I'm just

[01:14:28] automatically in a foul mood yep and maybe that's how we're supposed to feel let me ask you this

[01:14:34] I'm curious we all I imagine have issues with Roy and keely breaking up but can't you imagine

[01:14:42] if keely still had Roy as you know a roommate and partner she'd have someone that she could bounce

[01:14:47] ideas off of someone that could kind of call her out on some stuff and steer her in the right

[01:14:51] direction yeah so you know the fact that Roy broke up with keely he did her such a disservice because

[01:14:57] having that partner that that you can really share those things with I think would have made

[01:15:02] all the difference for keely and it goes and it goes to my original point that we can be successful

[01:15:10] strong women with a partner heck yes I would be half as successful as I am if I didn't have a

[01:15:16] partner like care that's there to challenge me and help me grow and and be the support I need when

[01:15:22] I need support I am not an island and I don't want to be so and I think keely is the same way nor do

[01:15:28] we want to live in a vacuum right right right well and even going to the point of keely and Roy's

[01:15:35] break up one of the other issues I had with this episode as well is the fact that it's completely one

[01:15:39] sided we're seeing Roy dealing with the breakup but we don't see keely dealing with it at all

[01:15:45] the only instance that we get of keely is that when she gives that look and when Roy stands up

[01:15:50] in front of the Chelsea crowd and she hears the crowd chanting for Roy like she there's that

[01:15:56] there's that moment where she kind of looks and she gets you know we can see her notice that

[01:16:02] as well but other than that like we're not really seeing her affected by this breakup other

[01:16:08] than the business side of things we're not seeing her person how it's affecting her person

[01:16:13] she's too busy to deal with it yeah yeah yeah and maybe that's part of kind of herself destructive

[01:16:20] tendencies this season hmm that's a good point that's a very very good point is that she's not allowing

[01:16:26] herself to deal with right she's not allowing herself to to process and to move on so in the back

[01:16:32] reminds she knows that there's something that's annoying at her psyche that she has to work through

[01:16:36] so she just distracts herself with bad ideas hmm and horrible people yep yep every

[01:16:43] last company yep um yeah I mean I've gotten through for the most part most of my notes

[01:16:54] for this episode um the only other note I have that's not spoiler related is man just

[01:17:01] so greasy and man yes yes I'm getting back to the pub uh wearing top hats take that off

[01:17:13] take a bad luck and I love one of my favorite moments of everything is when when Jeremy and

[01:17:21] Baz get the wrong orders or rather than switch the plates may switches them fantastic as as a

[01:17:27] server for 12 years yep I've felt that way before yeah yep excuse me this is what I got switch

[01:17:32] your fucking plates yeah yeah um I've got a a couple of notes so yeah yeah the Roy banner at Chelsea

[01:17:41] I don't know if you guys knew about the so not only was it awesome and endearing and sweet it was

[01:17:46] also controversial so in actual Chelsea um it was a bit of a snap food because there's a banner for

[01:17:52] Ray Wilkins they don't make them like Ray anymore and die hard Chelsea fans were very very upset

[01:17:57] because they felt like it was disrespectful to replace it from Ray to Roy just for a TV show

[01:18:02] they're British people it's hard to make them happy um other so we talked about callbacks earlier

[01:18:07] and and some mirroring um the title of the song is an Elvis Costello song which of course was Beards

[01:18:13] Alter Ego at Bones & Honey was Elvis Costello's given name um Shandy I believe was wearing the

[01:18:20] lion outfit that Keeley was wearing in her lion versus panda commercial shoot oh I think you're

[01:18:27] right and Isaac God love him wants a sponsorship for shoes just shoes no brand different issues like

[01:18:33] candy roll loose no no that's not that shit yeah mocho mocho yes yes also god don't we all feel old when

[01:18:44] a youngster says something like what's the CD yeah like I have made sure my daughters know

[01:18:51] what records are and we listen to records so that that medium doesn't die because damn I hate it

[01:18:57] when that happens did you see Jamie in the background explaining to Will what a city was no it was awesome

[01:19:03] I missed that I'm gonna have to go back and watch that like shaping it he's like you know

[01:19:09] and Jamie giggling every time Roy berates trend I mean just the absolute joy on David which

[01:19:16] I'm pretty sure is more of the joy on Phil Dunster space than the joy on Jamie's but I love it

[01:19:20] I love it so much it's kind of funny seeing him seeing him yell at someone else yeah absolutely

[01:19:26] well because because Jamie is most of the time usually the one the target of Roy's scream yes

[01:19:33] so yeah seeing him do it to somebody else is fantastic I love it or see Jamie's reaction to seeing him

[01:19:38] do it to somebody else yes that's it for me for notes Kristen what about you anything else for

[01:19:45] four spoilers blah blah blah blah I don't think so I did say that Trent Roy and Ted at the end

[01:19:56] that last scene with Trent Roy and Ted it's nice to see that Roy has somebody who he has

[01:20:04] history with in that office because with Nate gone Nate knows the history behind Richmond and

[01:20:12] the history of of the team and the history of of British football but you know with with the two

[01:20:21] Americans in there it must feel very strange a strange new dynamic for Roy as the third coach

[01:20:27] and with Trent there there's this begrudging respect of you know he's talking about an old game of his

[01:20:33] and he looks at Trent and he's like you remember that game and they have that shared moment so I think

[01:20:38] that that humanizing element for Roy is really important in his development throughout this season

[01:20:44] and it makes Trent more relevant in in that office setting and more accepted in that office setting

[01:20:52] as a result I love that yeah I think that's great great pickup and it's so funny too like you've

[01:20:57] been saying it for the past couple episodes two Kristen but like watching this episode again

[01:21:02] and seeing this whole Trent storyline officially begin makes me just want to watch the rest of

[01:21:09] like right now right now just to watch the progression of this Trent Chris. God I love Trent

[01:21:14] trim so much see that's the benefit of not actually being a host on this after we're done with this

[01:21:19] I already made myself to promise I'm gonna watch every episode I'm gonna take my notes for my

[01:21:22] feedback and just put it in the can until until the right week but screw this I'm watching through

[01:21:27] yeah I don't have any obligation to fans I'm going to

[01:21:32] um you know what's funny too is you know ordinarily we look at the meanings of the episodes of

[01:21:39] the titles of the episodes and this one I don't want to go to Chelsea is very clear it's you know

[01:21:44] Zava making his choice that he's not gonna go to Chelsea but I'm looking ahead next week's episode

[01:21:49] which is titled 4-5-1 and I now know what that means look at you learn and soccer it's

[01:21:56] the change of the 4-4-2 to 4-5-1 because of Zava. Zava sucks. Yeah Zava is Lebron you're right

[01:22:04] yes all Lebron sucks you ruined my team. So any final notes then before we dive into spoiler

[01:22:13] nothing with spoilers all right so with that being said then obviously if this is your first time

[01:22:18] watching we want you to avoid the spoilers as much as possible if you want to as well so just

[01:22:23] check the show notes to find out when we're gonna come back after this conversation but that being

[01:22:27] said I only have one thing so I'm just gonna throw it out there now and then you guys can go into

[01:22:31] yours um Trent's phone call from his publisher now knowing what I know about Trent is very clearly

[01:22:41] not his phone you know I thought it was his mom but you're right you're absolutely right it is

[01:22:46] definitely significant other it is his partner you are so correct just the way you listen to that

[01:22:52] conversation and just the way he is talking to that person there's a lot of care there there's

[01:22:57] like he's it's somebody he wants to tell about his day and what is happening this is Trent's partner

[01:23:03] he is taught I never even picked up on that like I said really I thought mom just because I could see

[01:23:09] that but but you're right it has to be partner you're so right this is his partner I really thought

[01:23:15] it was his publisher so no no I don't know I also knew that that publisher was a red herring I

[01:23:21] knew that that wasn't really what it was so man you're so right yeah this is this is definitely

[01:23:28] his partner he is talking oh yeah it is not his totally see it now I just that's a great point

[01:23:34] that's a great one yeah godly good pick that that's all I that's all I have for spoilers um

[01:23:42] so go um um um um um um okay I just have this question

[01:23:49] um okay and it has to do it I'm gonna talk about this keelie's storyline for just a minute if

[01:23:56] that's okay with both of you um do you think that Rupert and Jack know each other

[01:24:03] oh I'm I'm gonna say no because the reason why I ask is wow did this happen to keely did removing

[01:24:15] keely from the Richmond office and giving her her PR firm was that another way to bring Rebecca

[01:24:20] down with Jack because Jack came out of nowhere Jack did come out of nowhere well they said

[01:24:27] there was a same venture capitalist that was that funded banter so that's how they would know about

[01:24:33] keely because keely really helped put banter on the map I mean hell keely got banter on the front of

[01:24:37] champions league kits um but damn that is a very very interesting question I I want to lean towards

[01:24:47] no and the only reason I'm saying that is because I feel like knowing what we know about Rupert

[01:24:54] I feel like if Rupert had met Jack and new Jack Jack would have become the next becks

[01:25:02] no way Jack no Jack's gay oh that's right that's right but Rupert might not know that

[01:25:10] with that stop Rupert I imagine mega bajillionaires have that kind of internal world where they do

[01:25:15] know these things about well also Jack is controlled by her parents too oh so maybe Rupert

[01:25:21] knows her parents the same thing maybe and then I have a follow up question to that so Barbara moves

[01:25:26] around a lot is it for Jack's love interests that Barbara moves around a lot like um she buys her love

[01:25:34] she but so Jack buys her love with you know these women that she she likes and then Barbara is

[01:25:41] just a witness to the way that Jack runs through women and so she just thinks of keely as this vapid

[01:25:48] shallow woman that Jack just has a arbitrary interest in and she knows that she's not going to be

[01:25:53] there for very long hmm damn both of you are kind of melting my brain here on this um that's a really

[01:26:01] good question and I always figured it was something like Barbara comes in she sets up shop she leaves

[01:26:07] she wears out her welcome in three months and and she's she's gone but that's a very interesting

[01:26:12] quest is she kind of there to to oversee while Jack loves and leaves and then moves on to the next

[01:26:18] target that's a great question because Barbara ends up staying with keely she does she does she

[01:26:23] leaves the the Jack attack right yeah Barbara becomes a more likable character by the absolute

[01:26:29] he keely notices her snow globes and she notices that keely is not who Jack maybe even thinks

[01:26:35] that keely is mm-hmm what I cannot remember for the life of me is Barbara's reaction to Jack and

[01:26:41] keely I cannot see it before okay I think that she she tells keely that she's seen it before

[01:26:49] okay is is Jack full on gay or is she bisexual I mean bisexual is gay but um like is she full

[01:26:57] on lesbian or is she bisexual like keely oh that I don't remember I want to say that she's

[01:27:03] women only I think I think she's exclusive okay but I have a little season three

[01:27:11] once so right me to me too yeah that's tough but I mean I didn't have these questions until we

[01:27:16] started talking about the episode because you you're the Zava for spoiler didn't you yes I did

[01:27:24] I I that's right I did have a little bit about Zava and spoilers to but we'll get to that but I

[01:27:29] just because Barbara becomes this character that is kind of broken down to to to a likable character

[01:27:38] by the end of the season because of keely I'm just wondering like how many times Barbara has been

[01:27:44] through this with Jack because when keely gets into all that trouble with the with the sex tape

[01:27:52] was it the sex tape it was either sex tape or sex pictures yeah something like that yeah no it's a

[01:27:57] video is a video okay Jack has a plan that her parents gave her and she like leaves keely immediately

[01:28:05] you know so and Barbara sees what happens there and knows that keely is so much more than what

[01:28:11] Jack is giving her credit for and this is all based on one I could be completely wrong because I

[01:28:17] again I haven't watched it more than once but I just feel like Barbara finally like breaks out of the

[01:28:27] the the Jack phase or or whatever um what am I thinking of well I think a big I think a big thing that

[01:28:36] has to do with that as well is the fact that I think for the first time but with Barbara I think for

[01:28:41] the first time in all of the places she has been to it's it's sort of similar to Dr. Sharon and

[01:28:47] that Barbara just does not allow herself to connect anybody because she moves around so much but

[01:28:52] she finally allows herself to connect the keely because keely makes an effort to connect to her I see

[01:28:57] that you can't love that really yeah you can't help but love keely which is why season three frustrates

[01:29:03] me so much because keely becomes my one of my least favorite characters over the course of like

[01:29:10] half of this season I'm just like keely what the fuck are you doing yep I can just get mad and the

[01:29:14] whole shandy is a large ass piece of that I mean oh shandy yeah I mean we're definitely going

[01:29:21] to see keely make a comeback which is which is great but you're right she is at like one of the

[01:29:26] lowest points that we've seen her character yeah we've seen Rebecca this low before we've never seen

[01:29:32] keely this low she was always at least a little bit confident and coxure um and she's had a good

[01:29:38] head on her shoulders always has and it's she just she she melts she melts you know what it is

[01:29:45] because it's the breakup it is and the fact that it wasn't hers like first off hey Roy maybe don't

[01:29:51] go around saying oh it was me because that makes you that much more of an asshole it really is

[01:29:57] because keely suffers from that breakup in more ways than just losing your romantic partner keely

[01:30:04] really does suffer um and it's it was just for Roy and and and and I think one of the things about

[01:30:11] the keely character in this season as well is the fact that keely has been the strength for so many

[01:30:16] others this is the first time keely has nobody to be hers and nobody nobody thinks to help her

[01:30:24] everybody else is distracted with their own things Rebecca's distracted in her pursuit to get back

[01:30:29] at rupert again so keely has lost that um you know Ted is back Ted is concentrating on the team

[01:30:36] which is where his concentration should be she's lost Roy so like all of the things that she had

[01:30:42] that made her strong other than that other than what's what's in herself are gone well it's

[01:30:49] the neat thing all over again she's elevated and forgotten elevated and dropped and it's it's so

[01:30:55] frustrating it is frustrating because I think that she she deserved a better final season than

[01:31:02] what they gave her then what they gave that character awesome I remember not holding season three

[01:31:08] in the highest of a steam because of the keely story arc and what they did there right yeah I think

[01:31:15] this season is I I love season three but I think it is because when once everybody finds their footing

[01:31:27] as characters everybody's in mud right now they're slipping and sliding wherever you know wherever

[01:31:32] they are but once everybody finds their footing and it becomes cohesive again usually within I think

[01:31:39] by like by the halfway point by we're in spoiler so I can say by Amsterdam uh yes that's

[01:31:46] the turning point god I love that episode uh this and I think that is why it's probably one of the

[01:31:52] highest rated episodes we needed it is because by it sunflowers which is the name of the episode it's

[01:31:59] Amsterdam it's Amsterdam yeah it's windmills it's Amsterdam it's whatever you call it by sunflowers

[01:32:07] that is when it clicks season three clicks in episode six and for the rest of the season it's fantastic

[01:32:17] off to the race is amazing is amazing one of my favorite Jamie Tart moments in the entire season is

[01:32:22] when he's at that press conference and he's like I think everybody is great everybody is great I'm

[01:32:26] I'm trash it's not me everybody else everybody's great he least like Jamie's broken who broke him

[01:32:35] I mean like that because of that Amsterdam episode like there's such a great connection between

[01:32:40] Roy and Jamie in that episode we see some great stuff with Higgins in that episode Rebecca's story

[01:32:48] is fantastic in that episode like it is there's so much that happens by in episode six and from

[01:32:55] that point on the rest of the season is Jess isn't that where Ted comes up with total football too yes

[01:33:02] I thought so I thought that happened Amsterdam fantastic fantastic is that I think that's

[01:33:07] Amsterdam I think so because what else is Ted story arc for Amsterdam what can you think of anything

[01:33:12] other than that that's right he finds the sports bar that is just the best fake American bar since

[01:33:19] the good place yeah you're so right that's that's right yeah so by episode six like everything's

[01:33:28] going to start picking back up again and it's going to be it's just a frustrating couple of episodes

[01:33:34] yeah to get through we'll go through I mean there's there's still some great stuff that

[01:33:38] that happens there Premadana that's all I have to say about that Premadana Premadana

[01:33:44] I've had a 10-a-10 but I mean we're going to take another step back next week too and it's

[01:33:52] basically because of Zava you know and talking a little bit now about spoilers for Zava like the

[01:33:58] biggest thing that stands out to me about Zava and it's one of the the biggest indicators as

[01:34:04] do how much of an inflated ego this character is is the fact his locker in the locker room takes up a

[01:34:12] corner of the locker room it like it takes the spot I think of like five like but it also looks

[01:34:19] like that's where Jamie's locker yes that's exactly where Jamie's locker no Jamie's Jamie's locker

[01:34:23] was not there but that's why I will I will I will bet a beer on that I will bet a beer on that

[01:34:28] the next time I see you in Philly no because I remember I remember in particular Jamie's is on

[01:34:33] the end next to the door Zavas is in the corner I understand what you're saying but he's been hanging

[01:34:40] out in that corner like his I watch today or whenever I watch this episode because I thought the same

[01:34:48] thing and it clearly says tart number nine in that corner that Zava takes over so I'm oh then they

[01:34:55] move Jamie's locker because it used to be by Sam it used to be over by Sam along the wall and then

[01:34:59] when he came back to the team is when they moved into the corner it was their last season oh no

[01:35:04] you're right because when he takes the term when he puts the tape on yes that's right he's in that

[01:35:09] corner sir but he so okay so where I'm thinking of Jamie's locker room it the scene that I'm thinking

[01:35:16] of Jamie's locker is when he takes the the piece of the belief sign from the season finale so

[01:35:22] I guess wherever they move him to after Zava comes yes that's where he stays that's where he stays

[01:35:27] for the rest of the which is probably where he was when he put the gum in the donation box since

[01:35:32] it didn't yeah I would be a good idea because that's where he was before yep that was so well and I

[01:35:38] think that that's really symbolic too of Zava's entry is that he takes Jamie's spot yes and what's

[01:35:46] so ironic about that is that Jamie doesn't care about that he cares about what is doing to the team

[01:35:52] yep yeah I love that madam huge growth amen what do you have first bullers I have a couple more

[01:35:58] but what do you have Alex I have a couple of just teeny tiny ones the globe for Amsterdam which we

[01:36:03] mentioned the the really highlighted globe on Barbara's desk is how big is to hear I love it yep so

[01:36:11] I wonder if the lamb that Shandy leaves in the conference room when she's fired is the same lamb

[01:36:16] from this photo shoot I want to throw that out there I think it is I forgot he does it is so so

[01:36:24] keep your eyes peeled on that one and then my last one is I'm pretty sure the whole the Roy ending

[01:36:31] where his whole it's better to quit than wear out the welcome I think that's exactly what's going

[01:36:36] through Ted's mind this entire season I think that is Ted's thesis statement of knowing when to leave

[01:36:42] and and knowing what you value in life and how you can find your happiness yeah but it doesn't make

[01:36:50] me happy that he left no for sure I'll second that all day although I feel like Ted was kind

[01:36:56] of a background character in this episode he didn't he personally did not move any of the plot

[01:37:01] forward and I think there are a couple of episodes like that this season and that might be them trying

[01:37:06] out can we make the you know the Richmond way a spin-off series you know without Ted I don't I don't

[01:37:15] think it's that I think it's more you know when you go towards the end of the series and you find

[01:37:20] out Roy you know Trent Crimson's book is called The Lassoway and Lassow's the one that makes the note like

[01:37:25] it's never it's never been about me I think that's what they were trying to tell with this season

[01:37:30] is that so when it gets to that revelation that it's the Richmond way and not Ted Lassow I think the

[01:37:36] writers were trying to make a point that this it's called Ted Lassow but this show has never been

[01:37:41] about Ted yep well and I think that that's that's a big illusion to to parenthood you know is that

[01:37:51] we spend the first two seasons or whatever right we spend the first two seasons putting our pieces

[01:37:57] in place and and bringing up these people and bringing up this team and then in the third season

[01:38:04] its hands off the wheel have I done my job yeah yeah yeah so um do you think that Jamie would have

[01:38:15] been would have asked Roy as doggedly as he did to train him if it wasn't for Zava no I don't I

[01:38:25] think like I said I think Zava was the catalyst I think eventually Roy would have taken Jamie

[01:38:30] under his wing and started training him but I don't think without having because who else is going to

[01:38:36] challenge Jamie for for supremacy on the team or and maybe this is a secondary aspect of it by

[01:38:44] at was he asking Roy because he wanted to be better or was he asking Roy because he wanted to be

[01:38:48] better so they wouldn't need Zava what was it the cancer piece of it that he wanted to just get at like

[01:38:54] like I need to be good enough so that you guys don't go get a Zava and we can keep this unity we have

[01:39:00] well and that goes back to one of the points I was going to make earlier that I said I was going

[01:39:03] to say for spoilers is that I think the reason for bringing in Zava because remember we had said

[01:39:09] that somebody had said that I don't I don't see what the point of bringing in Zava was other than

[01:39:14] Coss chaos and I think that's just it I think this team needed to see that they could do it without

[01:39:20] Zava yep they needed the confidence to know they needed Zava to come in and they needed the confidence

[01:39:27] to see that one Zava was gone they could be that team they're just as strong if not stronger

[01:39:33] without that character yep I would agree yeah that's perfect yeah oh my sorry I learners are done

[01:39:43] acid for me okay all right so then with that said welcome back to everybody who came out because

[01:39:52] in this spoilers um which takes us into some of our favorite quotes for the episode um

[01:40:09] the only one I really have and we kind of mentioned it is uh what the fucks a hallmark yes

[01:40:16] it's an honor for you to meet me and hallmark christmas movies are films that feature women from

[01:40:21] the big city following them love with their childhood crushes it's usually some fellow that owns

[01:40:25] a christmas tree farm sometimes he Santa Claus or a prince they suck but they're great but they also

[01:40:32] mostly suck but they're also kind of great they're good with the sound off and it's so funny that

[01:40:38] like I loved hearing this conversation because around christmas time and around Thanksgiving time

[01:40:43] I constantly berate one of my uh my friend's brothers and brother-in-law whenever I'm over there

[01:40:48] for Thanksgiving because he loves hallmark movies and I just I'm like you've seen all of them in the

[01:40:55] first one you watch they're all it's the same for me like just different and yet you it's kind

[01:41:01] of like fast and furious movies it's don't even don't Alex if you ever want to come back on this

[01:41:09] you are always welcome he owns half of this podcast you are always welcome

[01:41:18] damn it you can see the same amount of homicoms yeah yeah um I agree to a sense but there are some

[01:41:28] there are some rom coms that break the mold that are really good date nice Steve Karel teen

[01:41:33] effect check it out it's fantastic I love that movie there yeah that's a kill shot

[01:41:40] turn just go I'm sure that warm bodies is another one it's a gummy rom that is a good one

[01:41:46] it's so much I love me some Nicholas there are some that break the mold hallmark movies never break

[01:41:51] those uh um they are the same one my favorite line of the whole episode was Ted

[01:41:58] to Roy saying your ego is about to squash a lot more than a silly football match yes yes

[01:42:04] oh good sabotage okay sabotage yeah and and that is Ted coaching and managing at his finest

[01:42:11] that is Ted you know it's the angriest I've ever seen him sober um but he he delivers it and

[01:42:19] he's able to still bring you know be his corny self like you better order off the vegan menu

[01:42:24] because you bubble blah and like but it's still so powerful that Roy doesn't even he the smile

[01:42:29] erases from his face he's like all right I screwed up I gotta fix this and and it's such a power point

[01:42:34] yes because he's so serious I mean he looks at him he stares through a soul in that moment yes

[01:42:39] and you don't get a lot of that with Ted and not many people can do that to Roy right

[01:42:44] so that that shows their bond um but that's not my favorite Ted quote this week my favorite

[01:42:49] Ted quote this week is oh he must be thinking of screen Pennsylvania oh that's right y'all y'all

[01:42:53] did a prequel of that show over here in reference to the pre-make was it pre-make a pre-make a pre-make

[01:42:59] a pre-make yes a pre-make oh my god that was fantastic fantastic um okay I also have one from Jamie Tart

[01:43:08] I forget how skittish old people can be because of the war when when he goes into hot Roy

[01:43:13] that's just that's classic and then the last one I have is um when Leslie says well did you

[01:43:18] sweet talk to him Rebecca says well what's the opposite of that Keeley goes sour yell that I did

[01:43:23] that her delivery of that I did that was so good the only other one I have too is one of my favorite

[01:43:30] sequences from the show and it's uh when the team finds out that Roy and Keeley have broken up

[01:43:36] who's on first that's pretty much what it is and I love it he's like okay is this about us getting

[01:43:42] Zava what we're getting Zava I just wished for that 30 seconds ago whoa whoa wait no whoa hold on a

[01:43:48] second okay if y'all weren't talking about Zava what were you so upset about is it because Trent

[01:43:53] Crimson writing a book about us what wait Trent Crimson writing a book about about Zava joining

[01:43:59] our team no no he's just coming here to write a book about the team Zava's writing a book about us

[01:44:05] no Trent Crim why would Zava write a book about Trent Crimson?

[01:44:09] the anger that comes out as a row when he delivers that the absolute anger in his voice is phenomenal

[01:44:16] if y'all didn't know about Zava which may or may not happen and y'all didn't know about Trent

[01:44:21] Crimson which is happening then why are you also worked up Roy and Keeley broke up and then we

[01:44:26] get the coach that coach beard screen oh and then it continues it's Roy when Roy comes in

[01:44:32] all you talking about and and it just I don't have the quote in front of me but it continues the man

[01:44:37] on first it's fantastic and Ted and Ted pretends to faint yeah he starts to faint when he hears about it

[01:44:45] oh yes no yeah that's right it's like it's because I have the transcript of he says

[01:44:51] Roy says no I came in oh no he says hey I didn't say anything and he says I'll fucking kill you

[01:44:57] no I came in and they were talking about us getting Zava what we're getting Zava Roy do you

[01:45:02] want to talk about it no I'm not talking about me and Keeley no I meant Zava do you want to

[01:45:06] talk about it sure he's nuts but it helps us win games that time I was actually talking about you

[01:45:11] and fantastic it gets me every time even though I know it's coming I need you to run to my apartment

[01:45:17] go into my desk and grab my CD called Ted's breakup mix got it what's a CD oh my gosh

[01:45:26] you see that whole that whole sequence yes in the locker room is just it's it's so damn funny

[01:45:34] um that's all I have for quotes yep I'm good yep all right that takes us then into the feedback section

[01:45:43] for the podcast in which we have a couple of voicemails including Steve Brown who has returned

[01:45:53] you know I just want to give a shout out to Steve as someone that sees Jason Kabassi as the

[01:45:58] podfather so you know he is where all pods come from in my opinion but Steve Brown is that for

[01:46:04] commenters man there is nothing better as a fan than listening to a live steaming and just

[01:46:10] just enjoying the journey he goes on Steve never stop you are truly missed I imagine by both the

[01:46:16] hosts and definitely by the fans man because you are you're the reason I started interacting with

[01:46:20] podcast because you had so much fun with it I wanted it on that that's awesome and as Kristen brings

[01:46:26] up constantly and I'm fully for it every podcast can can exclaim that they get their live

[01:46:33] steavings we got it first nice started on the revisited podcast that's awesome he did a great job

[01:46:40] on through the looking glass for the record I listened to that one so I don't even remember but I

[01:46:44] believe you that was three pandemic that was a different lifetime wow yeah that was a long time

[01:46:50] no oh no there's like an alternate dimension I haven't gotten to the pandemic episode yet I'm so

[01:46:54] excited she's well that's all right we didn't do many pandemic episodes either because we took

[01:46:59] like a year and a half long I think I was drunk for a year weren't we all yeah we all how what

[01:47:04] I'm drunk in four rocks horrible horrible time yeah I was sticking light bulbs up my butt I heard

[01:47:09] that that was gonna work it's how your buckets a good idea yeah I mean I mean look I I cleaned my

[01:47:15] colon with tide pod so my generation just ate them well that's how I okay anyway more on

[01:47:29] we have two voice mails and a face and a bit of Facebook feedback from our friend Lindsey so

[01:47:34] Kristen if you are set why don't we kick off with that Lindsey Schlick hello Lindsey not my favorite

[01:47:40] episode to be honest introduced a lot of characters that I don't care for Barbara Zavi

[01:47:46] Zava Shandy whoops um I know that the shows need villains but there's so many characters on the show

[01:47:53] that I simply adore that the villains seem all the worst to me I'd rather just watch Roy and Keely

[01:48:00] and Higgins and Rebecca and Jamie all day than any of these people whenever they are on screen I just

[01:48:05] want them gone pretty tame episode otherwise for me one of my least favorites while still loving

[01:48:10] the show looking forward to next week I agree okay yeah I mean not not one of my least favorite because

[01:48:17] we have a lot to say about this episode but definitely about the um the unlikeable characters

[01:48:25] just golly it made it unenjoyable of a watch it kind of felt like a slog having to get through a lot

[01:48:31] of it I felt bad I selected this one I was like oh man what the hell was I thinking what are you I

[01:48:35] almost said that too I was like why did you choose me because you're delightful and you made

[01:48:40] this more delightful I knew we would need a little bit of brevity since we were introduced to

[01:48:44] Bozava and Shandy so perfect that's what I did and I didn't want to get in the way of the Amsterdam

[01:48:49] episode because I just want to enjoy that as a listener and and you know not not getting the way

[01:48:53] of the report it's gonna be it's gonna be one of the few episodes we've ever done where you

[01:48:58] will audibly be able to hear a smile if you could ever hear a smile in an episode it will be during

[01:49:07] the Amsterdam episode all right so then that takes us into the voicemails that we have and the first

[01:49:13] one we have is from Jason from San Jose I bet in Kristen this is Jason in San Jose providing feedback

[01:49:21] for the season three episode I don't want to go to Chelsea I'm really loving rewatching season three

[01:49:27] for the first time since it originally aired a lot to talk about in this episode but since the

[01:49:33] deadline is shorter than usual I'll try to sum up my ideas as quickly as possible but yeah the

[01:49:39] return of Trent Crim how awesome is that and I know you guys have been talking about the excitement

[01:49:45] of Trent Crim's storyline for season three really looking forward to that but yeah the scene in

[01:49:51] Rebecca's office with their talk of Zava and Ted just not knowing what they oh no they broke up

[01:49:58] I don't know even know what I'm talking about oh man and so yeah something that they were talking

[01:50:04] about was the office not in scranton but in London and the the UK version of the office oh the

[01:50:12] pre-make which reminded me of ghosts the CBS show ghost the British pre-make Katie Wicks who is in season

[01:50:23] three of Ted Lasso as Barbara Keely's CFO CFO so yeah I first saw Katie Wicks in the British version

[01:50:34] of ghosts and she plays this just oddball character and something that she said in one of the first

[01:50:43] few episodes just goes through my head repeatedly when the ghosts were trying to get the inhabitants

[01:50:50] of the manner to leave they're coming up with all these crazy ideas but her idea is just to yell

[01:50:58] get out get out get out get out get out get out get out get out get out get out get out get out get out

[01:51:05] get out get out so yeah hearing her do that just goes through my head when I want someone to leave

[01:51:12] and with Barbara her snow globe collection there is another subtle hint at Amsterdam

[01:51:18] with her snow globe that said Holland the windmill so yeah back to Zava and Trent Creme

[01:51:26] the locker room conversation about the confusion about Trent Creme and Zava and the line why would

[01:51:33] Zava write a book about Trent Creme just killing me so yeah Roy laying down the law there with no

[01:51:41] one talking to Trent oh I am so glad that that didn't last beyond this one singular episode

[01:51:49] when Ted was welcoming Trent to the team Danny's little whoo I mean fuck off Trent Creme that just

[01:51:56] had me rolling couple other things in this episode all of coach beards awesome screams throughout

[01:52:03] just hysterical and Roy's yelling oh my god Brett Goldstein can definitely be a metal singer if you

[01:52:10] wanted to so awesome anyway I wanted to keep this one short and I can't wait for the next episode

[01:52:17] until then this has been Jason in San Jose namaste baby that's awesome um that's tagline never

[01:52:26] namaste I've never that so much of that Kristen uses it for her own now to sign off for the podcast

[01:52:32] yeah and then we do want a namaste namaste forking day baby just gonna keep adding to it

[01:52:40] love yeah I've never seen ghosts but it is a show that has been on my radar for a while and I do

[01:52:45] want to check out I hear the American version is pretty good but I've never seen either version

[01:52:49] UK or I don't know what you're talking about so you've never heard of ghosts it looks pretty funny

[01:52:54] I have not checked out it does look pretty funny it's a CBS comedy the the US version is is a CBS

[01:53:01] comedy I like Jason's comment about Roy being a great uh metal singer like I see him being very

[01:53:06] Henry Rollins you know I love this one with long hair and a bandana absolutely like dress

[01:53:12] up as Eddie Munson from Stranger Things oh that would be a me if he did like a movie where he's a musician

[01:53:19] I turned it up to 11 yeah but he actually so he he has said numerous times that he's not a good singer

[01:53:27] but um he actually I just saw this the other day he's a writer now on the new frugal rock series

[01:53:35] for Disney plus and he is also now a character well I mean we've talked about like how much

[01:53:44] Brett Goldstein has a love and admiration for the Muppet oh yeah so for him to be now like one

[01:53:49] of the writers for frugal rock is great but he's also voicing a new character on the new season of

[01:53:54] frugal rocks and he sings it the song he sings a song is that car we've heard him singing he did

[01:54:01] Muppet's Christmas Carol oh yeah but he he knows for well that he's not a great singer

[01:54:09] I've said it before like to and I know I know I'm not sure but she has like a hundred million

[01:54:14] dollars so you know you don't have to be a good singer and I did I did on that note with the Muppets

[01:54:20] and everything I'm I feel sorry for our friend Jill because she had tickets to go see Brett Goldstein

[01:54:26] and his show got postponed um and I did find out why it's because he's actually playing a role

[01:54:32] in shrinking in season two of shrink he's not just writing he's actually going to be in the show so

[01:54:37] I think and they're now in production which is probably why he's showing April God uh very cool

[01:54:42] I love the show um but when I saw him he shared a story about how he could never have kids

[01:54:49] and the reason and the reason for it is that because he got to do Sesame Street

[01:54:55] and the reason why he can never have kids now after doing Sesame Street is because one day

[01:55:00] that kid will grow up and say dad was the day I was born the best day of your life

[01:55:06] and he'll have to not lie to his kid and be like uh no have you ever met Elmo?

[01:55:11] no

[01:55:15] because that was because the day he didn't say Sesame Street was like the greatest day of his life

[01:55:19] yeah because of his love for the Muppets

[01:55:22] that makes sense so uh I want to see Brett Goldstein in a full on Muppet movie

[01:55:29] you know what he should do all right so I know he should be the new Scrooge

[01:55:32] hear me out hear me out remake clue but Brett Goldstein is Tim Curry's character and everyone

[01:55:39] else is a Muppet okay well they are remaking clue already what what I will only accept that

[01:55:45] you did not know this no okay so all right let's continue this tangent here I'll make this quick

[01:55:54] I adore the original one of my favorite all-time movies all-time yeah it is

[01:55:59] flame this won't be quick and when I heard they were remaking clue I was like no like no not at all

[01:56:11] not at all and then I heard the names attached and I'm like wait a second this might

[01:56:19] I heard that see what you say that you're right the two names that are attached as writer and director

[01:56:26] are Ryan Reynolds and Jason Bay. Yeah I see it I don't care. Oh oh

[01:56:33] huh I'm I look I get it I'm interested I get it oh Ryan Reynolds is the best blah blah blah

[01:56:40] nothing will replace the original clue nothing that's correct I don't I don't think it'll be as good

[01:56:46] as the original clue but I think if they do something then they kind of they just take the property

[01:56:51] and make their own Christopher lawy doesn't it I'm kind of like Jamangie yeah okay like kind of like

[01:56:58] bit tell a different story yes I could be now using the clue property Ryan Reynolds sure does

[01:57:04] like making movies that used to be something different that is now a new spin on it like that stupid

[01:57:10] spirited movie don't do those great don't don't even start up you know how much I love that

[01:57:18] nice I did that just for that reaction I also don't like that movie like you do we're moving on

[01:57:29] we're moving on all I need is Ryan Reynolds flying a car in space

[01:57:34] all right we're moving not taking the ball we have one thank you um Steve's

[01:57:40] yes yes we have one more voicemail and that comes from our friend Steve Brown so let's play

[01:57:45] that now hello been in christian this is Steve and uh this is gonna be for Ted Lasso season three

[01:57:53] episode two I don't want to go to Chelsea is that it's just specific title I love it they're all

[01:58:00] pantomimeing for Ted to say no and of course he says yes to Trin Crimm okay did Rebecca just say

[01:58:06] yeah but dabba do and wanting to go get Zava after she found out West Ham wanted him she said Zava

[01:58:13] Yaba do and Trin Crimm just summed up what I just said as well Isaac noses can can he's can

[01:58:20] his ex it's can his ex is science I do notice that the belief sign is back together and above

[01:58:28] the above the door so I'm I can't remember the logistics of how that happened I know Ted found it

[01:58:34] tour in half on his desk at the end of the last episode so or the end of season two right

[01:58:41] haha Rebecca's mom just offered her psychics maternal maternal uh help what oh I can't think of

[01:58:51] words today wow talk with the Ted Lasso effect the Roy Kent effect nobody will talk to Trin Crimm okay so

[01:58:58] they were in the Premier League and then they got relegated and then and now they're back in the

[01:59:03] Premier League I don't understand soccer all and it's good to know that Roy has still loved in his

[01:59:09] old team but by the way I agree Christian I think this was the worst storyline of the show

[01:59:15] I understand it's a key element of season three and I don't want to spoil anything but this

[01:59:20] Roy and Keeley break up just makes no sense to me at all haha there's a fine line between stocking

[01:59:25] and romance Roy has been holding on to that receipt since he was 17 man I mean article but he's

[01:59:33] keeping receipts I finally I didn't see this ever before when that announcer when the pun

[01:59:39] is talking about uh the professional footballers adjusted himself one of the side characters

[01:59:45] is from Richmond is in the back adjusting himself haha the face of Roas here

[01:59:52] beard is in the back to squealing like a little girl we're here that they got Zava

[01:59:56] he he he Ted batting your eyes at Roy we probably never would have met haha love it can't wait

[02:00:03] the next episode I forgot I forgot about the whole uh the cute abatting of the eyelashes

[02:00:11] when he tells when he tells Roy we might have never met uh it's so nice to get her out of

[02:00:16] the game oh gosh yeah that little laugh no mic drop hmm oh it's right well because they don't

[02:00:24] actually say that the the title of the episode they do say Chelsea a lot though and the

[02:00:29] rest of its impermanencies so true okay very true but thank you Steve thank you Jason uh Lindsay

[02:00:38] everybody who left feedback if you guys want to leave feedback for the future we encourage you

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[02:00:52] at revisitedpod.com uh two more quick things to do before we get out of here recommendations and then

[02:00:59] we want to give Alex an opportunity to plug uh his podcast as well so let's knock out the

[02:01:06] recommendations real quick I have one and then if Alex or Kristen have if you guys have one um mine

[02:01:15] I just want to say the continuation of the X-Men cartoon on Disney plus X-Men 97 is phenomenal it

[02:01:26] is so good Danny is actually watching the original right now because she wants to watch the new one

[02:01:32] nice it is so good it it picks up right where the original left off not just in story but in

[02:01:41] animation style voiceover everything it is like that show has not missed a bit I haven't heard

[02:01:48] universal praise for nerd IP like this since the Mandalorian but everyone says X-Men is 97 is

[02:01:55] phenomenal so I gotta check it out and I actually haven't watched the third episode yet because

[02:02:01] I did it for the first two they release on Wednesdays um they released the first two last Wednesday

[02:02:06] because X-Men originally was a Saturday morning cartoon I wait and I watch it Saturday morning

[02:02:14] so it was really cool that is a durable bin yeah last week when the first two when the first two

[02:02:21] episodes dropped I didn't get dressed I got out of bed I came in the living room sat in the

[02:02:26] recliner and I watched in my pajamas the first two episodes of X-Men 97 on Saturdays and I

[02:02:34] know but I will do that tomorrow it has to be like tricks or cocoa pebbles or something else I have

[02:02:41] honey nut Cheerios on my fridge right now all right Omar yeah I don't know that reference watch the

[02:02:47] wire Omar coming I will um christinae Alex any recommendations from you guys this week Alex sure

[02:02:55] uh quiet on set the HBO documentary if you want your childhood to be ruined and you want to

[02:03:00] really question everything that you thought you knew about childhood start them go ahead check it out

[02:03:03] it is four hours of tear jerking enjoyment four hours well as four hour long episodes oh yeah

[02:03:11] yeah no I thought it was just like one documentary oh sweet summer child no

[02:03:17] the other recommendation it's baseball season folks turn on the TV check out a game

[02:03:22] yeah okay yeah it's it's at the time we're recording this it is opening day sure is sure is which

[02:03:28] is got a lot of people that are happy yes make it tell you're one of them chris and so you're welcome

[02:03:34] well Dave is a diehard Dodgers fan so baseball is always on in the house all right yeah uh we're

[02:03:42] from southern California I guess I guess yeah Dodgers podrais or angels and I think the Dodgers is

[02:03:48] probably the best yeah let's just say that's a really good bet yeah um you made me think of it too

[02:03:56] because quiet on the set is actually something or quiet on set is one I actually want to check out

[02:04:00] because I keep hearing a lot of things and so many of those Nickelodeon stars are now coming out

[02:04:05] and saying things because of this documentary um but there is another documentary that actually

[02:04:10] just came out I haven't seen it yet but I've been really looking forward to it uh Apple just released

[02:04:16] a two-part documentary on Steve Martin uh called Steve Martin a documentary in two pieces and I

[02:04:23] that's I'm really looking forward to watching that um that's what I says catchy yeah um

[02:04:30] I'm just going to say please watch Bad Badge I knew you were gonna say bad badge I knew you were

[02:04:37] this last episode was fantastic yes it was godly I love that show I already watched that too

[02:04:44] yeah oh yeah no that's appointment television for us and the Rick show please watch the Rick show

[02:04:49] rush the ones who live featuring machine oh yeah that's what it's called the why keep forgetting

[02:04:54] what it's called I've called it the walking dead in the Rick show I have never called it the ones who

[02:05:02] uh before we get out of here Alex um plug away you have a new podcast that is a couple episodes

[02:05:09] at this point I do thanks Ben uh so we've have about three episodes in it is the quit chase and

[02:05:14] podcast uh myself and one of my childhood friends Danny Gerb talk Phil Delphi fillies every week kind

[02:05:20] of it's a lot like a recap we're gonna let you know what you miss so that if you can't watch 162 games

[02:05:25] don't worry we got your back we'll take care of it and I promise it's spoiler-free because it's sports

[02:05:30] and it has to be um so uh check us out we have a lot of fun our last two episodes uh featured because

[02:05:37] it's preseason uh both us reassigning walk up music to all of our all of our team and then we talked

[02:05:43] about oh it was a good time um and then we talked about our favorite rules around superstitions good

[02:05:48] luck charms bad luck charms and curses so uh check us out you can find us on Spotify and Apple and once

[02:05:53] I learn more maybe other places too who knows we'll find out is it just fillies from the scope of fillies

[02:06:00] so it is baseball through the eyes of two diehard fully fans that have no journalistic experience or

[02:06:07] inside information so really if you if you enjoy going to the bar and talking fillies and baseball

[02:06:11] with your friends hop on join with us that's that's kind of what we do that's great that sounds fun

[02:06:17] it's a lot of fun every Thursday night at nine thirty we recorded it's it's always a highlight I love

[02:06:22] it that's awesome that's awesome and we'll put a link to it in the show notes as well thank you um

[02:06:26] and share a link to it on the chase what uh quit chasing podcast quit chasing podcast okay yes

[02:06:33] i'm writing it down in the uh notebook that apparently I never use according to

[02:06:39] and next to flaming hot mac and cheese so I got that too you have that written down to

[02:06:46] right next to each other i am just setting the stage here yes you are there you go love it

[02:06:52] uh but Alex thank you for coming on and uh and doing this I know you and I you've been on

[02:06:57] will home before so you and i have podcasted before but this was your first time podcasting with

[02:07:00] christmas this was awesome I thoroughly enjoyed it come back anytime please this was a lot of fun

[02:07:06] I may not look like how i sound but you know at least i sound well it's so surprised i don't know why

[02:07:11] we were expecting that samwell tarley or theon grade or what what what did you think was going to be

[02:07:16] behind this voice first of all i thought you were blonde i don't know why ouch okay i don't know why

[02:07:22] and i i just expected i don't know your void you know what your lovely you're very handsome i'm very

[02:07:29] sorry for if i was insulting you or your looks at all i just was surprised i look up because he goes

[02:07:35] hi Alex and i'm writing something now i look up i'm like okay so i'm really sorry that's okay

[02:07:42] i found it a lot funnier than than offensive so you're fine thank god

[02:07:49] next episode of ten lasso season three episode three four five one four five one is the

[02:07:56] episode title not three four five one and which we are going to get more zaba and it's where

[02:08:06] michelle was coming back into the mix next episode two great oh man isn't that great michelle

[02:08:12] yeah so shandy rupert let's just get it all and Nate we're just gonna bring everybody back

[02:08:19] we didn't even need Nate this episode angry enough without him so prepare to probably be even

[02:08:27] angerier as sh out as long as we have episodes six coming we'll survive yay it's coming soon

[02:08:34] but as always thank you everybody for listening being a part of this great community for

[02:08:38] listening subscribing all that you guys do Alex thank you once again for coming on and as

[02:08:42] christian said you are welcome back anytime whether it's ten lasso the good place whatever we do

[02:08:48] in the future the way you're naked yes yep so uh but with that being said we'll see you guys

[02:08:55] back out on the pitch take care namaste bye bye